Hermits brought it on themselves

It annoys me to see pc gamers always acting like their system's far superior. Terms like "console dumb-down" when referring to games that release on pc and consoles are often seen on these forums. I feel that the pc gamers brought this on themselves, by not hesitating to download games rather than paying for them. That's what you get for being cheap! Now stop whining about consoles deteriorating your games! Devs want to make money; you forced them to do this yourselves.

PS: only if you never, and I mean never ever, downloaded one single game, you shouldn't feel adressed by this. But even if you've only downloaded one game in your life you're guilty, and you also brought this on yourself.

Brought what exactly.. also

*points to nitty losing 1 billion dollars*

*points to 700000 GTA4 downloads before hand*

*shows TC piracy is on all platforms and because console piracy isn't in the spotlight doesn't mean it's there*

You mean the biggest libary ever year? awesome.

Brought what exactly.. also

*points to nitty losing 1 billion dollars*

*points to 700000 GTA4 downloads before hand*

*shows TC piracy is on all platforms and because console piracy isn't in the spotlight doesn't mean it's there*

jangojay

True. But still consoles make devs much more money since piracy is much less of an issue compared to pc's.

it anything has ruined gaming its the pc owners not the pcs themselves, most of them are thieves that pirate games, because they dont have jobs and live in mommies basement playing world of warcrack thinking its real. Lo_Rising

2 stereotypes in under 5 minutes? what you does that make you in this list of stereotypes?

it anything has ruined gaming its the pc owners not the pcs themselves, most of them are thieves that pirate games, because they dont have jobs and live in mommies basement playing world of warcrack thinking its real. Lo_Rising

Great... most console gamers are 14 year olds who never had a girlfriend are pimple faced and fat.

See I can make generalizations to.

[QUOTE="Lo_Rising"]it anything has ruined gaming its the pc owners not the pcs themselves, most of them are thieves that pirate games, because they dont have jobs and live in mommies basement playing world of warcrack thinking its real. jangojay

Great... most console gamers are 14 year olds who never had a girlfriend are pimple faced and fat.

See I can make generalizations to.

But the fact that piracy is so big of an issue for pc gaming is saying something about the average pc gamer now isn't it?

[QUOTE="jangojay"]

Brought what exactly.. also

*points to nitty losing 1 billion dollars*

*points to 700000 GTA4 downloads before hand*

*shows TC piracy is on all platforms and because console piracy isn't in the spotlight doesn't mean it's there*

NielsNL

True. But still consoles make devs much more money since piracy is much less of an issue compared to pc's.

No they don't....... as i pointed out to some guy in a thread yesterday the MAJORITY of console games sell under a million dollars. Infact mostly high profile/bundled games have surpassed the million mark.

Xbox has 27 million sellers but over 700 games.

PS3 has 5 million sellers but over 400 games

Wii has 21 but over 800 games

PS2 has around 150 over a million but over 3000games.....

As you can see consoles aren't the most profitable platform. It's either hit or miss, same with PC. Depends on graphics and advertisement.

[QUOTE="jangojay"]

[QUOTE="Lo_Rising"]it anything has ruined gaming its the pc owners not the pcs themselves, most of them are thieves that pirate games, because they dont have jobs and live in mommies basement playing world of warcrack thinking its real. NielsNL

Great... most console gamers are 14 year olds who never had a girlfriend are pimple faced and fat.

See I can make generalizations to.

But the fact that piracy is so big of an issue for pc gaming is saying something about the average pc gamer now isn't it?

As I said it's big but piracy is rampant on console games as well. People just like using it as a cop-out when thier game doesn't sell well.

You mean the biggest libary ever year? awesome.

Meu2k7

High five!

[QUOTE="NielsNL"][QUOTE="jangojay"]

Brought what exactly.. also

*points to nitty losing 1 billion dollars*

*points to 700000 GTA4 downloads before hand*

*shows TC piracy is on all platforms and because console piracy isn't in the spotlight doesn't mean it's there*

jangojay

True. But still consoles make devs much more money since piracy is much less of an issue compared to pc's.

No they don't....... as i pointed out to some guy in a thread yesterday the MAJORITY of console games sell under a million dollars. Infact mostly high profile/bundled games have surpassed the million mark.

Xbox has 27 million sellers but over 700 games.

PS3 has 5 million sellers but over 400 games

Wii has 21 but over 800 games

PS2 has around 150 over a million but over 3000games.....

As you can see consoles aren't the most profitable platform. It's either hit or miss, same with PC. Depends on graphics and advertisement.

Wait a second.. did you just only post console numers and no pc numbers, and conclude from that, that pc's are more profitable than consoles in terms of game sales?

[QUOTE="jangojay"][QUOTE="NielsNL"][QUOTE="jangojay"]

Brought what exactly.. also

*points to nitty losing 1 billion dollars*

*points to 700000 GTA4 downloads before hand*

*shows TC piracy is on all platforms and because console piracy isn't in the spotlight doesn't mean it's there*

NielsNL

True. But still consoles make devs much more money since piracy is much less of an issue compared to pc's.

No they don't....... as i pointed out to some guy in a thread yesterday the MAJORITY of console games sell under a million dollars. Infact mostly high profile/bundled games have surpassed the million mark.

Xbox has 27 million sellers but over 700 games.

PS3 has 5 million sellers but over 400 games

Wii has 21 but over 800 games

PS2 has around 150 over a million but over 3000games.....

As you can see consoles aren't the most profitable platform. It's either hit or miss, same with PC. Depends on graphics and advertisement.

Wait a second.. did you just only post console numers and no pc numbers, and conclude from that, that pc's are more profitable than consoles in terms of game sales?

Umm no... I just said consoles aren't as profitable as you console guys like to make them out to be.

It annoys me to see pc gamers always acting like their system's far superior. Terms like "console dumb-down" when referring to games that release on pc and consoles are often seen on these forums.

NielsNL

Yet the Hermits can provide examples of this. The PS3/360 owners do the same thing to the Wii but cannot provide any examples of "Wii Dumb Down" when referring to a game that is released on 360/PS3 and Wii. Because there aren't any.

Hermits will always think they're superior. But just remember, you're not the one living in your mother's basement.mmogoon

Yea those 14 year old console gamers still sleep in thier mother's beds.

Hermits will always think they're superior. But just remember, you're not the one living in your mother's basement.mmogoon

Hermit stereo types are funny. I bet you think that most people committe thanks to GTAIV as well.

It's all the companies fault. Blaming pirates and feeling sympathy for multimillion dollar corporations getting lower profit margins because of their own incompetince is just pathetic. When it's easier and more convinient to download a cracked copy of a game than it is to buy it and deal with DRM, they're doing something wrong. I mean only recently they've stopped requiring you to have the disc in to play for some games. People will always find a way to crack something and all they end up doing is making it a pain in the ass for legitimate buyers. Services like Steam and Direct2Drive are the right direction.Lazy_Boy88

That's just ridiculous.

Why should it be the company's responsibilty to pour money into a system just trying to prevent the idiots who download illegally.

All people have to do is simply not click on a link. Just because you can't control your temptations doesn't make it their fault for not trying to stop you.

[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

It annoys me to see pc gamers always acting like their system's far superior. Terms like "console dumb-down" when referring to games that release on pc and consoles are often seen on these forums.

Blackbond

Yet the Hermits can provide examples of this. The PS3/360 owners do the same thing to the Wii but cannot provide any examples of "Wii Dumb Down" when referring to a game that is released on 360/PS3 and Wii. Because there aren't any.

Wtf, man? You beat me to it. :| :P

Hermit stereo types are funny. I bet you think that most people committe thanks to GTAIV as well.

Blackbond

What does this mean?

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="NielsNL"]

It annoys me to see pc gamers always acting like their system's far superior. Terms like "console dumb-down" when referring to games that release on pc and consoles are often seen on these forums.

Hexagon_777

Yet the Hermits can provide examples of this. The PS3/360 owners do the same thing to the Wii but cannot provide any examples of "Wii Dumb Down" when referring to a game that is released on 360/PS3 and Wii. Because there aren't any.

Wtf, man? You beat me to it. :| :P

I created a thread on it that hit like 300 pages lol

Brought what exactly.. also

*points to nitty losing 1 billion dollars*

*points to 700000 GTA4 downloads before hand*

*shows TC piracy is on all platforms and because console piracy isn't in the spotlight doesn't mean it's there*

jangojay

his point is, while you CAN pirate games on consoles, it takes a lot of dodgy scripts and things and is generally not worth it, whilst PC has p2p things like torrnet with CLICK TO DOWNLOAD. on them.

it anything has ruined gaming its the pc owners not the pcs themselves, most of them are thieves that pirate games, because they dont have jobs and live in mommies basement playing world of warcrack thinking its real. Lo_Rising

Great opinion did you think that up by yourself??

Every 360 live player are 14 year racist/homophobic and general bunch of t**ts

And I pay for every game.... You know a PC gamers can be honest

[QUOTE="jangojay"]

Brought what exactly.. also

*points to nitty losing 1 billion dollars*

*points to 700000 GTA4 downloads before hand*

*shows TC piracy is on all platforms and because console piracy isn't in the spotlight doesn't mean it's there*

crunchUK

his point is, while you CAN pirate games on consoles, it takes a lot of dodgy scripts and things and is generally not worth it, whilst PC has p2p things like torrnet with CLICK TO DOWNLOAD. on them.

And my point is.. that piracy while easier to do on PC.. is rampant on consoles as well. They just aren't in the spotlight and I'm glad nintendo is making the industry away of it.

Brought what exactly.. also

*points to nitty losing 1 billion dollars*

*points to 700000 GTA4 downloads before hand*

*shows TC piracy is on all platforms and because console piracy isn't in the spotlight doesn't mean it's there*

crunchUK

How did you arrive at this 700,000 downloads? You just made it up.

PS: only if you never, and I mean never ever, downloaded one single game, you shouldn't feel adressed by this. But even if you've only downloaded one game in your life you're guilty, and you also brought this on yourself.

NielsNL

his point is, while you CAN pirate games on consoles, it takes a lot of dodgy scripts and things and is generally not worth it, whilst PC has p2p things like torrnet with CLICK TO DOWNLOAD. on them. crunchUK

[QUOTE="Lo_Rising"]it anything has ruined gaming its the pc owners not the pcs themselves, most of them are thieves that pirate games, because they dont have jobs and live in mommies basement playing world of warcrack thinking its real. jangojay

Great... most console gamers are 14 year olds who never had a girlfriend are pimple faced and fat.

See I can make generalizations to.

But if consoles are the dumbed-down version of gaming pcs, couldn't the same apply to the people who play them?

[QUOTE="jangojay"]

Brought what exactly.. also

*points to nitty losing 1 billion dollars*

*points to 700000 GTA4 downloads before hand*

*shows TC piracy is on all platforms and because console piracy isn't in the spotlight doesn't mean it's there*

crunchUK

his point is, while you CAN pirate games on consoles, it takes a lot of dodgy scripts and things and is generally not worth it, whilst PC has p2p things like torrnet with CLICK TO DOWNLOAD. on them.

Most non PC user are somehow ignorent (tech wise). P2P is for everything not just for PC stuff, you can either download a PC or a console game, it is the same procedure, if its available on a site you just click, download , burn and play...

yep, piracy has gotten very easy...

i dont see why downloading a console disc image should be any harder than downloading a PC one?

[QUOTE="crunchUK"]

Brought what exactly.. also

*points to nitty losing 1 billion dollars*

*points to 700000 GTA4 downloads before hand*

*shows TC piracy is on all platforms and because console piracy isn't in the spotlight doesn't mean it's there*

Deihmos

How did you arrive at this 700,000 downloads? You just made it up.

Someone threw that number around somewhere here I'm just using it. Fact of the matter is before the game even launched there were 20,000 leachers on the torrent.

http://kotaku.com/383455/pirated-ntsc-gta-iv-leaked-online-early

So a 700 000 figure isn't very far fetched.

[QUOTE="crunchUK"][QUOTE="jangojay"]

Brought what exactly.. also

*points to nitty losing 1 billion dollars*

*points to 700000 GTA4 downloads before hand*

*shows TC piracy is on all platforms and because console piracy isn't in the spotlight doesn't mean it's there*

samiup

his point is, while you CAN pirate games on consoles, it takes a lot of dodgy scripts and things and is generally not worth it, whilst PC has p2p things like torrnet with CLICK TO DOWNLOAD. on them.

Most non PC user are somehow ignorent (tech wise). P2P is for everything not just for PC stuff, you can either download a PC or a console game, it is the same procedure, if its available on a site you just click, download , burn and play...

yep, piracy has gotten very easy...

i dont see why downloading a console disc image should be any harder than downloading a PC one?

You don't have to modify your PC hence hence the reason it is so rampant compared to console games.

[QUOTE="Deihmos"]

[QUOTE="crunchUK"]

Brought what exactly.. also

*points to nitty losing 1 billion dollars*

*points to 700000 GTA4 downloads before hand*

*shows TC piracy is on all platforms and because console piracy isn't in the spotlight doesn't mean it's there*

jangojay

How did you arrive at this 700,000 downloads? You just made it up.

Someone threw that number around somewhere here I'm just using it. Fact of the matter is before the game even launched there were 20,000 leachers on the torrent.

http://kotaku.com/383455/pirated-ntsc-gta-iv-leaked-online-early

So a 700 000 figure isn't very far fetched.

Judging from the numbers on the most popular sites it didn't hit 50,000. A bit small for such a popular game. If it was on the PC it would have beeen in the millions by now.

and you also brought this on yourself.

NielsNL

not really, because people who download warez games will still do it and this EA activation thing won't exist to them, the only people who will suffer through it will be those who actualy spend money in legal games

and the irony is that hopefuly ME will flop like hell sales-wise and then EA will scream it's because of pirates, not because of people getting fed up with DRMs

DRMS don't work, other entertainemtn segments have already learned that, it seems videogames still aren't mature enough for that though

[QUOTE="jangojay"][QUOTE="Deihmos"]

[QUOTE="crunchUK"]

Brought what exactly.. also

*points to nitty losing 1 billion dollars*

*points to 700000 GTA4 downloads before hand*

*shows TC piracy is on all platforms and because console piracy isn't in the spotlight doesn't mean it's there*

Deihmos

How did you arrive at this 700,000 downloads? You just made it up.

Someone threw that number around somewhere here I'm just using it. Fact of the matter is before the game even launched there were 20,000 leachers on the torrent.

http://kotaku.com/383455/pirated-ntsc-gta-iv-leaked-online-early

So a 700 000 figure isn't very far fetched.

Judging from the numbers on the most popular sites it didn't hit 50,000. A bit small for such a popular game. If it was on the PC it would have beeen in the millions by now.

It annoys me to see pc gamers always acting like their system's far superior. Terms like "console dumb-down" when referring to games that release on pc and consoles are often seen on these forums. I feel that the pc gamers brought this on themselves, by not hesitating to download games rather than paying for them. That's what you get for being cheap! Now stop whining about consoles deteriorating your games! Devs want to make money; you forced them to do this yourselves.

PS: only if you never, and I mean never ever, downloaded one single game, you shouldn't feel adressed by this. But even if you've only downloaded one game in your life you're guilty, and you also brought this on yourself.

NielsNL

You make it sound like only PC gamers on Gamespot forums complain about "Console dumb-down" as you put it. The reality is people in the gaming community (and I am not talking about fanboys here) who recognise that some PC franchises have been simplified when they became multiplatform. This does not necessarily mean that the game is bad, but for people who have followed the franchise it is very disappointing.

As for piracy, oh please. You make it sound like console gamers are somehow more virtuous than PC gamers. The only reason there is more piracy on the PC than the consoles is because it is easier. That is all. If console piracy was as easy as PC piracy the volume of piracy would be the same.

Before you judge others let me ask you, have you every owned copied music, movies or other forms of media? Well if you have even owned one copy in your life you are guilty of pirating and you are no better than those you accuse.

[QUOTE="samiup"][QUOTE="crunchUK"][QUOTE="jangojay"]

Brought what exactly.. also

*points to nitty losing 1 billion dollars*

*points to 700000 GTA4 downloads before hand*

*shows TC piracy is on all platforms and because console piracy isn't in the spotlight doesn't mean it's there*

Deihmos

his point is, while you CAN pirate games on consoles, it takes a lot of dodgy scripts and things and is generally not worth it, whilst PC has p2p things like torrnet with CLICK TO DOWNLOAD. on them.

Most non PC user are somehow ignorent (tech wise). P2P is for everything not just for PC stuff, you can either download a PC or a console game, it is the same procedure, if its available on a site you just click, download , burn and play...

yep, piracy has gotten very easy...

i dont see why downloading a console disc image should be any harder than downloading a PC one?

You don't have to modify your PC hence hence the reason it is so rampant compared to console games.

Don't need to modify console eithers. Well the xbox at least.

You mean the biggest libary ever year? awesome.

Meu2k7

Biggest library every year? What are you talking about?

2007

PC 55 games

360 103 games

epic fail

this is only bein brought up cus of the cryteck **** moment on how "piracy" has made them go to consoles.. thats what you get with a average game with apperntly poor ass multiplayer and the system requirements of god..

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

You mean the biggest libary ever year? awesome.

gink101

Biggest library every year? What are you talking about?

2007

PC 55 games

360 103 games

epic fail

lol what.... where does this list come from? :lol:

Besides I meant most Quality Games.

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

You mean the biggest libary ever year? awesome.

gink101

Biggest library every year? What are you talking about?

2007

PC 55 games

360 103 games

epic fail

Someone is going to pull out the spread sheet on you.

nah..it was more pirated than any PCgame this year so far.jangojay

I was just browing a popular site and it's amazing how many people are downloading these games. C&C Kane Wrath already registers 200,000 downloads and COD4 is in the millions. If I was a developer i would be pissed. I think EA is taking the wrong approach by limiting you to 3 installs. I can't deal with that.

[QUOTE="NielsNL"][QUOTE="jangojay"]

Brought what exactly.. also

*points to nitty losing 1 billion dollars*

*points to 700000 GTA4 downloads before hand*

*shows TC piracy is on all platforms and because console piracy isn't in the spotlight doesn't mean it's there*

jangojay

True. But still consoles make devs much more money since piracy is much less of an issue compared to pc's.

No they don't....... as i pointed out to some guy in a thread yesterday the MAJORITY of console games sell under a million dollars. Infact mostly high profile/bundled games have surpassed the million mark.

Xbox has 27 million sellers but over 700 games.

PS3 has 5 million sellers but over 400 games

Wii has 21 but over 800 games

PS2 has around 150 over a million but over 3000games.....

As you can see consoles aren't the most profitable platform. It's either hit or miss, same with PC. Depends on graphics and advertisement.

[QUOTE="jangojay"][QUOTE="NielsNL"][QUOTE="jangojay"]

Brought what exactly.. also

*points to nitty losing 1 billion dollars*

*points to 700000 GTA4 downloads before hand*

*shows TC piracy is on all platforms and because console piracy isn't in the spotlight doesn't mean it's there*

killab2oo5

True. But still consoles make devs much more money since piracy is much less of an issue compared to pc's.

No they don't....... as i pointed out to some guy in a thread yesterday the MAJORITY of console games sell under a million dollars. Infact mostly high profile/bundled games have surpassed the million mark.

Xbox has 27 million sellers but over 700 games.

PS3 has 5 million sellers but over 400 games

Wii has 21 but over 800 games

PS2 has around 150 over a million but over 3000games.....

As you can see consoles aren't the most profitable platform. It's either hit or miss, same with PC. Depends on graphics and advertisement.

Indeed, so why is sales used against the PC Platform so much more? all hes saying is, theres likely a very similar ammount of million sellers across all platforms including the PC.