Hironobu Sakaguchi- Was it a mistake for him to leave SE?

Hironobu Sakagushi as well as you all now created the Final Fantasy series. With this he had high authority in Square Enix. But he left the Square Enix Train and made his own studio? Was it a mistake for him to leave? I mean he was pretty special in Square Enix. He kind of holds a grudge against Square Enix. He even argued, telling them to stop rehasing Final Fantasy. Whats your opinion on him leaving SE, good or bad?

You know that he was effectively forced out, right? Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within was a financial disaster for the company.MAILER_DAEMON

Hironobu Sakagushi as well as you all now created the Final Fantasy series. With this he had high authority in Square Enix. But he left the Square Enix Train and made his own studio? Was it a mistake for him to leave? I mean he was pretty special in Square Enix. He kind of holds a grudge against Square Enix. He even argued, telling them to stop rehasing Final Fantasy. Whats your opinion on him leaving SE, good or bad?

VensInferno

If he got the boot, then it probably was a mistake on SE's part.

It seems other companies aren't good at forming his ideas into games. He might have had awesome games at SE, but all his mistwalker stuff can't come close. 110million

[QUOTE="110million"]It seems other companies aren't good at forming his ideas into games. He might have had awesome games at SE, but all his mistwalker stuff can't come close. vadicta

Agree Lost Odyessy is my favorite rpg this gen and i don't see that changing anytime soon.

[QUOTE="110million"]It seems other companies aren't good at forming his ideas into games. He might have had awesome games at SE, but all his mistwalker stuff can't come close. vadicta

Yes and no, Yes it was a mistake in the sense that his future games didn't have nearly as much funding or manpower to flush out his ideas well enough, but on the other hand, you could tell SE was dipping into his work more and more, especially with FFX compared to FFVII. And considering the downhill direction the series took after he left, it was probably overall best for him in terms of integrity.

[QUOTE="110million"]It seems other companies aren't good at forming his ideas into games. He might have had awesome games at SE, but all his mistwalker stuff can't come close. vadicta

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[QUOTE="110million"]It seems other companies aren't good at forming his ideas into games. He might have had awesome games at SE, but all his mistwalker stuff can't come close. spookykid143

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[QUOTE="110million"]It seems other companies aren't good at forming his ideas into games. He might have had awesome games at SE, but all his mistwalker stuff can't come close. 110million

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Lost Odyssey is by far and away the best JRPG this gen.

vadicta

Edit: responding to your edit, its long drawn out fights where you actually do need to decide what to do, the game has tons of really difficult fights. In LO its just a lot of zooming around characters.

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Lost Odyssey is by far and away the best JRPG this gen.

vadicta

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[QUOTE="spookykid143"]If you don't count handelds, or Persona 3 and 4.

spookykid143

[QUOTE="110million"]It seems other companies aren't good at forming his ideas into games. He might have had awesome games at SE, but all his mistwalker stuff can't come close. vadicta

NO.

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Well, the handhelds are on a completely different generational cycle. And aren't Persona 3 and 4 on PS2?

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[QUOTE="110million"]It seems other companies aren't good at forming his ideas into games. He might have had awesome games at SE, but all his mistwalker stuff can't come close. theuncharted34

NO.

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[QUOTE="110million"]It seems other companies aren't good at forming his ideas into games. He might have had awesome games at SE, but all his mistwalker stuff can't come close. theuncharted34

NO.

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Lost Odyssey is by far and away the best JRPG this gen.

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NO.

eh. it's a SRPG from japan. JSRPG? :P

Sakaguchi would have been more productive in SE. More resources and bigger budgets for games he ever wanted to make, moreover, SE has a well established name.

Bottomline: It was SE's mistake letting him go, Sakaguchi's a legend.

I don´t think he had the choice of staying in the company even if he wanted to,but yes,I´ve said it numerous times before,him leaving was one of the worst thing that could happen to SE.

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Lost Odyssey is by far and away the best JRPG this gen.

spookykid143

NO.

haven't played it, but I highly doubt it.

haven't played it, but I highly doubt it.theuncharted34

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NO.

theuncharted34

haven't played it, but I highly doubt it.

html errors be damned.

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which is why I said I highly doubt it, valkyria chronicals was outstanding.

I can't tell you the pain I felt when the sequal was made for the psp :(

oh wait I just did. :P

but seriously,

I wish it got the sales it deserved :(

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[QUOTE="spookykid143"]is better.

spookykid143

haven't played it, but I highly doubt it.

probably what I'm going to put in pokemon black version, that game is incredible and the best pokemon game since gold and silver.

god I'm soo addicted to it :P

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haven't played it, but I highly doubt it.

theuncharted34

probably what I'm going to put in pokemon black version, that game is incredible and the best pokemon game since gold and silver.

god I'm soo addicted to it :P

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Lost Odyssey is by far and away the best JRPG this gen.

110million

NO.

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[QUOTE="spookykid143"]I spent about 50 hours playing VC I've put around 350 into Disgaea.

spookykid143

probably what I'm going to put in pokemon black version, that game is incredible and the best pokemon game since gold and silver.

god I'm soo addicted to it :P

it's seriously amazing. it has sooo many improvements to the formula, the Unova region has the best locations in any pokemon game to date, the music is incredible, (another area where ruby/sapphire and diamond/pearl were sorely lacking in) and it's probably the best one in terms of the main game - it has some really neat cutscenes, fantastic graphics for a ds game, interesting story, and really neat characters. I'm in love with this game.

EDIT: a 9.5 easily.

All I know is that the FF series went to **** when he left. FFX and beyond were horrible. I did like XII's combat though.

ndawgdrake

Its not fair to count them though, because Persona 3 or 4, individually pretty much crap all over any console JRPG this gen (from what has been localized at least).

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Square's lost IMO BTW is just me or has Square been losing a lot of their best talent in the past decade?

[QUOTE="110million"]It seems other companies aren't good at forming his ideas into games. He might have had awesome games at SE, but all his mistwalker stuff can't come close. vadicta

Sorry can't say it was a good JRPG in any way/shape/form when they ignored the best part of the game and the entire blasted concept...and put it in collectable text monologues Wooooh~~~

Future best JRPG...Disgea + HD sprites = Win.

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[QUOTE="110million"]It seems other companies aren't good at forming his ideas into games. He might have had awesome games at SE, but all his mistwalker stuff can't come close. theuncharted34

NO.

All I know is that the FF series went to **** when he left. FFX and beyond were horrible. I did like XII's combat though.

ndawgdrake

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[QUOTE="110million"]It seems other companies aren't good at forming his ideas into games. He might have had awesome games at SE, but all his mistwalker stuff can't come close. Jynxzor

Sorry can't say it was a good JRPG in any way/shape/form when they ignored the best part of the game and the entire blasted concept...and put it in collectable text monologues Wooooh~~~

Future best JRPG...Disgea + HD sprites = Win.

Not really. Seems like he's doing fine in Mistwalker. He may not be making anything quite like his previous FF works but if The Last Story is any indication, he's really getting there. Im sure the FF series would be doing better with him but he had to leave S-E, after the Spirits Within catastrophe I dont think he was able to handle the shame lol.

[QUOTE="110million"]It seems other companies aren't good at forming his ideas into games. He might have had awesome games at SE, but all his mistwalker stuff can't come close. vadicta

No it wasn't... Square is just a mess right now.. Even though they weren't very good Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon were much better games than FF13.

I actually liked a lot of things from both those mistwalker games.. They showed a lot of promise.. Blue Dragon did a good job at creating the "adventure" part of a jrpg.. I just liked the way the game progressed.. It was pretty large in scale and thats what I miss about RPGs.. While it had a LOT of issues, it was a start.. And lost odyssey came out and improved upon it in a billion ways.. but still came up short, and played it a bit safe too often. But you can see he gets it and is improving his games constantly.

My guess is that he'll make an amazing RPG before square will

No it wasn't... Square is just a mess right now.. Even though they weren't very good Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon were much better games than FF13.

I actually liked a lot of things from both those mistwalker games.. They showed a lot of promise.. Blue Dragon did a good job at creating the "adventure" part of a jrpg.. I just liked the way the game progressed.. It was pretty large in scale and thats what I miss about RPGs.. While it had a LOT of issues, it was a start.. And lost odyssey came out and improved upon it in a billion ways.. but still came up short, and played it a bit safe too often. But you can see he gets it and is improving his games constantly.

My guess is that he'll make an amazing RPG before square will

VendettaRed07

He already did with the last story I guess his only mistake was making it on Wii since from what I heard most of the last story problems are techinical.

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[QUOTE="110million"]It seems other companies aren't good at forming his ideas into games. He might have had awesome games at SE, but all his mistwalker stuff can't come close. SilverChimera

S-E's problem isn't Sakaguchi, it's who's writing the games these days.

the real issue with SE is that they are announcing and trying to make too many damn games at once...

no. siding with MS was the mistakeme2002

Best be joking.

the mistake of square isnt only throwing sakaguchi out,they have made alot of bad games and decisions in this and last gen.

i will give an example,

nes gen 3 final fantasies

snes gen 3 ff

psx 3 ff

ps2 2 ff

ps3 1 ff and i dont believe we are gonna see ffxv this gen

the remakes/rehashes/prequels/sequels/spin-offs are killing the company ,i dont talk about new ips like "the world ends with you" . i dont know if they dont have the firepower make great games but i am positive the company is on the verge of dieing and we are gonna see 1 huge title every 3-4 years(not just ff series)

also the mmos are bad investment for square,sure they wanted that pie,but they should have named the ff online or sth and use other devs to make it not put on hold single player ff games(that pissed off alot of fans),and after the failure ffxiv is how can this company return to what it was? not by making a final fantasy vii remake i tell u,right now if sakaguchi is not in the works of the title they will destroy it by putting a battle system similar to ffxii and make it devil may fantasy vii.jrpgs fans like the turn based system ,stay at it,jrpg fans hate innovation ,innovation brought jrpgs to this point -> incert random compile heart jrpg......