Honest question to SW. Do Halo Wars and ODST "get a break" if not AAA?

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#1 Cole-Protocal
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Serious question. Is it really "ownage" if Halo Wars and ODST dont get AAA?

One is a spinoff and one is an expansion to the real thing......that got a 9.5.

So would it be a "loss" for the Halo fans.....or would it be accepted since they arent like the actual Halo games weve seen so far?

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#2 asylumni
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Is this a joke? Are you lost, maybe? You know where you are, right?
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#3 SpruceCaboose
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If they meet the hype, they are ok. If not, they are flops. Simple concept.
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#4 lawlessx
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they aren't hyped AAA so there wouldn't be much ownage if they failed to get AAA ratings
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#5 Cole-Protocal
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Is this a joke? Are you lost, maybe? You know where you are, right?asylumni

????

i wanna see how all fanboys on SW would react to Halo Wars and ODST not getting AAA.

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#6 Rigga911
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they will flop, big time
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#7 Ps2stony
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Are either of those on the SW radar? I no think so. Everyone knows Halo Wars will fail. And only halo fans are actually excited about ODST.
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#8 rockguy92
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I doubt they'll get AAA
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#9 Cole-Protocal
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Are either of those on the SW radar? I no think so. Everyone knows Halo Wars will fail. And only halo fans are actually excited about ODST.Ps2stony

Im a halo fan and im looking forward to Halo Wars. I guess it helps since I used to play starcraft back in my day.

I guess both are currently AA hyped.

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#10 NocturnalNoctis
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It depends on the hype.
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#11 Parasomniac
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Is anyone hyping them AAA? I don't think it'll matter since they're not the big one.
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[QUOTE="Ps2stony"]Are either of those on the SW radar? I no think so. Everyone knows Halo Wars will fail. And only halo fans are actually excited about ODST.Cole-Protocal

Im a halo fan and im looking forward to Halo Wars. I guess it helps since I used to play starcraft back in my day.

I guess both are currently AA hyped.

Ahahah a halo fan who played starcraft. Websters says : Cannot compute.
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#13 Giancar
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I don't see an AAA hype for OSDT anyways
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#14 BioShockOwnz
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Halo Wars is hyped AA tops!

We'll have to wait to see Halo: ODST hype, though.

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#15 ultima-flare
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Nice! Damage control already.....(even though neither of those have/are going to have AAA hype)
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#16 sargentbotk
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I don't think any of them are hyped AAA. I think Halo Wars has been getting AA hype so far. I haven't heard much people raving about ODST though.
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#17 XturnalS
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I think Halo Wars has more leeway then ODST but the hype for ODST isnt in yet so we'll wait and see.

I think HW has about AA hype at most.

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they aren't hyped AAA so there wouldn't be much ownage if they failed to get AAA ratingslawlessx
Sums it up, no one is hyping Halo Wars AAA and no one knows enough about ODST to hype it on anything other than the name.
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#19 desyple
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Halo Wars is hyped AA tops!

We'll have to wait to see Halo: ODST hype, though.

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Nice! Damage control already.....(even though neither of those have/are going to have AAA hype)ultima-flare
and this lulz:lol:
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#20 FragTycoon
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I don't think Halo wars is hyped AAA and ODST still don't have enough info to hype.

Halo Wars kinda reminds me of LOTR: BFME2

That game has some serious issues but was treated nicely (score wise).... being a LOTR fan I personally gave it a break too, I can see halo fans doing the same.

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#21 AAllxxjjnn
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We can't even hype ODST yet. we have no info.
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#22 deactivated-57af49c27f4e8
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yes. expansion packs usually aren't big enough on consoles to warrant AAA. and rts's with relatively little hype don't warrant a great score either.
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#23 HoldThePhone
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[QUOTE="Ps2stony"]Are either of those on the SW radar? I no think so. Everyone knows Halo Wars will fail. And only halo fans are actually excited about ODST.Cole-Protocal

Im a halo fan and im looking forward to Halo Wars. I guess it helps since I used to play starcraft back in my day.

I guess both are currently AA hyped.

If you played Starcraft wouldn't that make you hate Halo Wars...? Maybe that's just me.
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#24 death919
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LOL, who is hyping Halo Wars as being AAA? Personally I will love the game and it will be a personal AAA but honestly I don't see it getting higher than 8.5 on GS, I see it getting 8.0.
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#25 Cole-Protocal
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[QUOTE="Cole-Protocal"]

[QUOTE="Ps2stony"]Are either of those on the SW radar? I no think so. Everyone knows Halo Wars will fail. And only halo fans are actually excited about ODST.HoldThePhone

Im a halo fan and im looking forward to Halo Wars. I guess it helps since I used to play starcraft back in my day.

I guess both are currently AA hyped.

If you played Starcraft wouldn't that make you hate Halo Wars...? Maybe that's just me.

it means I am familiar with the rts genre....making Halo Wars an easier buy for me.

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#26 Syferonik
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I hope Halo Wars fail cuz no way i want Halo games to become RTS (yes yes i know befor Halo:Combat Evolved was released it was gonna be an RTS)
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#27 sumner1456
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So what your saying is, because microsoft is milking every doller possible out of the halo franchise instead of comming up with a new concept, we should forgive them if the game isnt even that good? I guess that sort of makes, well absolutely no sense.
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#28 Toriko42
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Both have AA hype I'm sure of it
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#29 II_Seraphim_II
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Who is honestly hyping either games AAA? :|
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#30 enygma500
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as far as i know both games are hyped AAA. therefore. yes ownage will have to be claimed for AA status.
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#31 hakanakumono
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Thats the rules of system wars. It's stupid though, and I don't think any game should be disregarded if it gets AAA. AA isn't great though.
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#32 Dreams-Visions
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depends on the hype. I haven't seen any hype for either game. and no new IP gets automatically hyped to AAA. no matter who the developer is. personally, I expect AA from both at minimum, though.
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#33 naval
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both of these have halo name, are few of the exclusives 360 has and are used as examples of how 360'sw 2009 exclusive lineup is going to be amazing -- so yeah I would certainly use them as ownage
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#34 _Pedro_
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it means I am familiar with the rts genre....making Halo Wars an easier buy for me.

Syferonik

I recommend you try other Console RTS games before you make your judgement. I love PC strategy games, but I despise their console counterparts.

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#35 Dreams-Visions
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both of these have halo name, are few of the exclusives 360 has and are used as examples of how 360'sw 2009 exclusive lineup is going to be amazing -- so yeah I would certainly use them as ownagenaval
ownage requires floppage. floppage require hype. hype requires a score expectation. what's the scoring expectation that has been predicted for either?
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#36 DethSkematik
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TC is right...I mean, it is a spinoff, and not an official sequel, so if it does bad, it shouldn't taint the Halo franchise as a whole. Sort of like your favorite band/celebrity on a crappy souvenir or movie. Can't blame them for something awesome being in something crappy.
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#37 naval
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[QUOTE="naval"]both of these have halo name, are few of the exclusives 360 has and are used as examples of how 360'sw 2009 exclusive lineup is going to be amazing -- so yeah I would certainly use them as ownageDreams-Visions
ownage requires floppage. floppage require hype. hype requires a score expectation. what's the scoring expectation that has been predicted for either?

scoring expectation is not the only thing that determines hype .. ..if it was so then spore would not have been considered a massive flope as it just fell from AAA to AA. Also just curious, which all 360 exclusives coming in 2009 do you think is more hyped than halo wars ?

edit: by scoring expectation I mean the poll takne to conduct polls , flops in sw has existed long before these polls were done

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#38 _Pedro_
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ownage requires floppage. floppage require hype. hype requires a score expectation. what's the scoring expectation that has been predicted for either?Dreams-Visions

Halo Wars is on 10000 wishlists. Shouldn't that count for something?

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] ownage requires floppage. floppage require hype. hype requires a score expectation. what's the scoring expectation that has been predicted for either?_Pedro_

Halo Wars is on 10000 wishlists. Shouldn't that count for something?

I don't see many threads in SW, maybe closer to the release Look at Killzone 2 hype though, I've been hearing about this generic game for three years now, I can't wait for it to get a solid 7.5-8.0
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#40 _Pedro_
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[QUOTE="_Pedro_"]

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] ownage requires floppage. floppage require hype. hype requires a score expectation. what's the scoring expectation that has been predicted for either?Toriko42

Halo Wars is on 10000 wishlists. Shouldn't that count for something?

I don't see many threads in SW, maybe closer to the release Look at Killzone 2 hype though, I've been hearing about this generic game for three years now, I can't wait for it to get a solid 7.5-8.0

I really don't get the Killzone 2 hype personally. They post a bunch of pics and claim it's god gift to mankind. I've been looking at many trailers, interviews and the only thing which is clear to me is that Killzone 2 is going to look great. Other than that the game seems like every other standard shooter.
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="naval"] scoring expectation is not the only thing that determines hype .. ..if it was so then spore would not have been considered a massive flope as it just fell from AAA to AA. Also just curious, which all 360 exclusives coming in 2009 do you think is more hyped than halo wars ?

edit: by scoring expectation I mean the poll takne to conduct polls , flops in sw has existed long before these polls were done

naval
you're wrong. 1.) Spore was was a massive flop. it went from God-status to AA flop. Probably one of the biggest this decade. People just don't really care about harassing Hermits here. 2.) None of 2009's 360 games have been unofficially hyped. I've seen lists of good games. I've seen games that people expect to be good (like Star Ocean 4, Halo Wars, etc.). I've seen NO games hyped with score predictions. I don't think anyone has seen enough of either Halo game to give an expectation for scoring. When that happens, we can talk about how to measure it's potential floppage. 3.) Hype also existed long before polls. Bottom line: you can't claim ownage/floppage for a game that met the expectations of the masses. OUR expectations are what determines a game's success or failure. So again, wake me when people actually start caring about either game in a real way.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] ownage requires floppage. floppage require hype. hype requires a score expectation. what's the scoring expectation that has been predicted for either?_Pedro_

Halo Wars is on 10000 wishlists. Shouldn't that count for something?

It counts for anticipation. Anticipation doesn't translate to hype. Expectations for high scores translate to hype. people expecting X-level scoring translates to hype. without it, there is no hype...and there is no floppage. maybe a disappointing game...but no actual ownage to dish out.
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#42 Floppy_Jim
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It would be a little embarrasing for the mighty AAA Halo franchise but then again, we don't know what the hype is. I'm guessing the hype is AA for Halo Wars and will be AAA for ODST.
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#43 Toriko42
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It would be a little embarrasing for the mighty AAA Halo franchise but then again, we don't know what the hype is. I'm guessing the hype is AA for Halo Wars and will be AAA for ODST.Floppy_Jim
It's for sure AA for Halo Wars, we need to see what Halo ODST is before we hype it.
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#44 EuropeGangsta
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Halo Wars hype isn't AAA anyway, and it shouldn't be. It's an RTS which will probably be reviewed with some PC standards, but I think it will get merits for it's controls. I see a good 8.0. Halo ODST is an expansion but pretty much expected to be AAA, new online modes, new story, it's completely new just shorter.
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#45 mr_mozilla
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Don't know what the hype for these is but imo both should have a shot at AAA.

CnC3 got 8.7 on 360 so no reason Halo Wars couldn't top that, RTS standards aren't that high on 360 yet.

And while usually expansions score a bit lower, games like Dark Avatar, Twilight of the Arnor, Warhead, Burning Crusade and Lich King have proved that an expansion to AAA game can be expected to score AAA as well.

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] 1.) Spore was was a massive flop. it went from God-status to AA flop. Probably one of the biggest this decade. People just don't really care about harassing Hermits here. 2.) None of 2009's 360 games have been unofficially hyped. I've seen lists of good games. I've seen games that people expect to be good (like Star Ocean 4, Halo Wars, etc.). I've seen NO games hyped with score predictions. I don't think anyone has seen enough of either Halo game to give an expectation for scoring. When that happens, we can talk about how to measure it's potential floppage. 3.) Hype also existed long before polls. Bottom line: you can't claim ownage/floppage for a game that met the expectations of the masses. OUR expectations are what determines a game's success or failure. So again, wake me when people actually start caring about either game in a real way.

1. & 3. Spore's God hype was the result of so many threads which were created and not from the from. What I am saying here is since there are no polls that doesn't means there is no hype or anything (you seem to be agreeing with this, right ?) 2. None of 2009's exclusives are really hyped by Lemmings, Hermits (except starcraft 2) or Sheep - I have only seen the cows do that hype stuff a lot.... But still you can easily see the few most hyped games for each lineup and if those hyped games score AA they are flop and yeah I can claim ownage on that and I am going to, just wait :P
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#47 -DrRobotnik-
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Hype for Halo Wars is AA. ODST is too far away, but its an expansion so i wouldnt be surprised if it got AA too.
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#48 DeadMan1290
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Really doubt ODST will be AAA. Maybe Halo Wars but still.
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#49 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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Well anything below AA IMO would be a disaster on the halo name. But Im getting ODST regardless Im not sure about halo wars though Illl wait for the demo before I decide.
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#50 MetroidPrimePwn
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Halo Wars would probably get a break, because Console RTS games never get AAA. ODST, probably not.