How bad would piracy be if PC gaming did happen to die?

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#1 IceChipmunk
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Console sales would obviously rise because it would be the only way to game, but just think of all those PC game pirates who would have to turn to console piracy because there would be no new PC games to torrent. You would also get a bunch of new pirates who used to be PC gamers and still want to game but refuse to buy them for consoles.


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#2 Bebi_vegeta
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Console sales would obviously rise because it would be the only way to game, but just think of all those PC game pirates who would have to turn to console piracy because there would be no new PC games to torrent. You would also get a bunch of new pirates who used to be PC gamers and still want to game but refuse to buy them for consoles.

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How about all the PC pirates would pirate consoles instead?

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#3 RealKilla_789
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[QUOTE="IceChipmunk"]

Console sales would obviously rise because it would be the only way to game, but just think of all those PC game pirates who would have to turn to console piracy because there would be no new PC games to torrent. You would also get a bunch of new pirates who used to be PC gamers and still want to game but refuse to buy them for consoles.

Bebi_vegeta

How about all the PC pirates would pirate consoles instead?

isn't that excatly what he said
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#4 AdrianWerner
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I think piracy would be the least of concerns for console market if PCgaming would die, this death would cripple console gaming permanently
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#5 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="IceChipmunk"]

Console sales would obviously rise because it would be the only way to game, but just think of all those PC game pirates who would have to turn to console piracy because there would be no new PC games to torrent. You would also get a bunch of new pirates who used to be PC gamers and still want to game but refuse to buy them for consoles.

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How about all the PC pirates would pirate consoles instead?

isn't that excatly what he said

I guess I've mistaken "console sales would obviously rise" for software sales instead of hardware...

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#6 EuroMafia
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There are 2 types of pirates, a lazy pirate and a pirate who knows what he's doing. The ones who know what they're doing will have the patience to mod a console, the lazy ones wouldn't.
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#7 bufu21
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Um piracy is still bad for consoles especially for Ps2 and x360.
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#8 bufu21
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Um piracy is still bad for consoles especially for Ps2 and x360.bufu21
n then console piracy will become ever greater.
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1) If PC gaming dies, console gaming dies
2) Piracy is a massive issue on consoles and handhelds as well as PC
3) It helps to know these two things before putting together a proper argument against PC gaming
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#10 Bebi_vegeta
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There are 2 types of pirates, a lazy pirate and a pirate who knows what he's doing. The ones who know what they're doing will have the patience to mod a console, the lazy ones wouldn't.EuroMafia

The "lazy pirate" would let the "know what he's doing pirate" do the modding.

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#11 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="EuroMafia"]There are 2 types of pirates, a lazy pirate and a pirate who knows what he's doing. The ones who know what they're doing will have the patience to mod a console, the lazy ones wouldn't.Bebi_vegeta

The "lazy pirate" would let the "know what he's doing pirate" do the modding.

correcto-mundo!
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#12 blackdreamhunk
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piracy is on every gaming machine known to man. pircay is there and it can't bet tracked. I would go so far as to say that pircay is bigger on console than on the pc.
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I think piracy would be the least of concerns for console market if PCgaming would die, this death would cripple console gaming permanentlyAdrianWerner
Yup; this.
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Maybe they would finally start releasing some good games.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6202081.html?tag=latestheadlines;title;5

Best thing to happen in a long time. Notice most of those are EA games.

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#15 blackdreamhunk
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If you see statements about pircay on the pc only! you know it's just another attack on the pc gaming platform. Big companies like micro osft and sony would love to see pc gaming go, as well as some fanboys of consoles gaming.
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[QUOTE="EuroMafia"]There are 2 types of pirates, a lazy pirate and a pirate who knows what he's doing. The ones who know what they're doing will have the patience to mod a console, the lazy ones wouldn't.Bebi_vegeta

The "lazy pirate" would let the "know what he's doing pirate" do the modding.

I see.

Maybe they would finally start releasing some good games.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6202081.html?tag=latestheadlines;title;5

Best thing to happen in a long time. Notice most of those are EA games.

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No excuse for pirates, sorry.
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#17 shemrom
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??????????

why would Microsoft would want to let PC gameing go, they are a PC software developer so i don't see the logic in that

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#18 blackdreamhunk
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??????????

why would Microsoft would want to let PC gameing go, they are a PC software developer so i don't see the logic in that

shemrom

there are meny reason they are slowly losing on the pc plant form. their vista is garbage. firefox is more popular than micerosft. There are meny reasons. one sec I have some links i could give let me find them.

http://blog.cameronharris.org/2008/11/microsoft-are-killing-pc-gaming.html

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/39622/Microsoft-Explain-PC-Game-Release-Delays

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#19 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="shemrom"]

??????????

why would Microsoft would want to let PC gameing go, they are a PC software developer so i don't see the logic in that

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there are meny reason they are slowly losing on the pc plant form. their vista is garbage. firefox is more popular than micerosft. There are meny reasons. one sec I have some links i could give let me find them.

MS is losing its foothold in software, and has no foothold in the web or pc gaming. The only department they are strong in currently is console gaming; they are out of touch in the others. I'm guesing that when MS dropped everything they had to do with PC gaming before the Xbox's release, all up until now, it was due to conflict of interest, they wanted PC gamers to shift. It has not happened, and now with declining sales in software and no influence in PC gaming or the web - PC gamers quite literraly hating MS's involment (GFWL); MS wants back in - as their sofware sales, and web influence depends on it. Its just a matter of MS wising up, as they haven't been for years now, in everything but the console market.
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#20 blackdreamhunk
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yep there alot of pc games as well swoftware companies are shifting to other companies. micro soft is slowly dying in the pc world. All because of of the consoles.Apple now has more money than micro soft. there is even talks of new companies who want to make os and cater to pc gaming.
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#21 AdrianWerner
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yep there alot of pc games as well swoftware companies are shifting to other companies. micro soft is slowly dying in the pc world. All because of of the consoles.Apple now has more money than micro soft. there is even talks of new companies who want to make os and cater to pc gaming.blackdreamhunk
MS is doing fine. Apple is still worth far less than MS, even if they have more cash. MS' dominance in PC OS market is unshaken. And MS' recent problems aren't "because of consoles", unless you mean MS loosing money on 360 :) MS still has far bigger profits than Apple and what's important: it gets those profits from PC. Apple's real profits come from ipods and iphones, not from Macs
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#22 blackdreamhunk
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not from what i have been reading mirco soft maybe laying off more people. micro soft is slowly losing it's grip on the pc market.

http://fscavo.blogspot.com/2005/02/is-microsoft-dying.html

there is so meny threads lik this on the internet. There is even more talks of lay offs coming for micro soft.

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#23 AdrianWerner
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not from what i have been reading mirco soft maybe laying off more people. micro soft is slowly losing it's grip on the pc market.

http://fscavo.blogspot.com/2005/02/is-microsoft-dying.html

there is so meny threads lik this on the internet. There is even more talks of lay offs coming for micro soft.

blackdreamhunk

that article is almost 4 years old :) And look at how it's now...MS is doing fine and it's profits and earnings are rising all the time (altough not as fast as they would like to), this should tell you how BS predictions like those are.

There's no real alternative to Microsoft in computer market, they might have ups and downs, but as long as PC market will exist, so will MS and considering PC market is growing fast, so will MS.

Altough they do need restucturization, especialy because of modern economy situation and layoffs are just a part of it. THey need to cut down on what's not profitable

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#24 blackdreamhunk
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the thing is there is tons of them on the net. I was over on ng looking pc gaming when I read a few articles about it. alot of them are recent.
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#25 AdrianWerner
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the thing is there is tons of them on the net. I was over on ng looking pc gaming went I read a few articles about it. alot of them are recent.blackdreamhunk
Dying companies don't post big profits increases :) The current economical situation is damaging everybody and companies need to react to that. But really, it's not like consoles are doing any better aside from Nintendo (and there developers aren't doing all that hot either).

PC market is growing fast and with it so will MS. They might cut down some areas, but their main business is PC software (or to be specific Windows+office), that's their monopoly and that's what will keep them alive even through worst troubles.

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If PC gaming disappeared who would the console companies get to make their GPUs? All the consoles this gen are equipped with ATI or Nvidia GPUs, PC gaming goes and so does the gaming orientated GPUs from these companies. Without the PC gaming market Nvidia and ATI would only make developer and integrated device GPUs, there would be no demand and funding to continuously develop gaming oriented hardware like the Gefore line.

Console graphics cards would have to be developed either in house or on special request, making them more expensive and considerably lower performing compared to when PC gaming constantly pushed GPUs forward.

If PC gaming was gone; inheriting pirate gamers would be the least of consoles problems, there would be no one to create demand for better gaming hardware between console releases.

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#27 Derek240
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Maybe they would finally start releasing some good games.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6202081.html?tag=latestheadlines;title;5

Best thing to happen in a long time. Notice most of those are EA games.

LittleHands134

Millions of games geing pirated is the "best thing to happen in a long time?" Dude, you have a problem.

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#28 imprezawrx500
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piracy would stay the same. x360 is dirt easy to pirated on and it is happening on a huge scale, you can't deny it
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#29 killerfist
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piracy would stay the same. x360 is dirt easy to pirated on and it is happening on a huge scale, you can't deny itimprezawrx500
this. also, if PC gaming happens to die, more pirates will move to consoles making it even bigger than it allready is.
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[QUOTE="EuroMafia"]There are 2 types of pirates, a lazy pirate and a pirate who knows what he's doing. The ones who know what they're doing will have the patience to mod a console, the lazy ones wouldn't.Bebi_vegeta

The "lazy pirate" would let the "know what he's doing pirate" do the modding.

exactly there are plenty of premodded consoles that are easy to buy and often have warranties too. consoles are not very time consuing to pirate on and since there are no cracks required once the "lazy pirate" has a modded console it's much easier for them to pirate game on consoles. with pc you have to hope there is a crack for every game and gta4 hasn't been very good for the "lazy pirates" with complex cracking required and many other games that don't get easy crack for a few weeks or easy to find working cracks. "lazy pirates" can be stuffed with hard to find cracks for games which is a problem faced by consoles since once modded all games work no problems
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#31 imprezawrx500
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If PC gaming disappeared who would the console companies get to make their GPUs? All the consoles this gen are equipped with ATI or Nvidia GPUs, PC gaming goes and so does the gaming orientated GPUs from these companies. Without the PC gaming market Nvidia and ATI would only make developer and integrated device GPUs, there would be no demand and funding to continuously develop gaming oriented hardware like the Gefore line.

Console graphics cards would have to be developed either in house or on special request, making them more expensive and considerably lower performing compared to when PC gaming constantly pushed GPUs forward.

If PC gaming was gone; inheriting pirate gamers would be the least of consoles problems, there would be no one to create demand for better gaming hardware between console releases.

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they could run intel graphics media accelerator, they would run awesome games :lol:
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#32 killerfist
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The sad truth is: As long as there is software to crack, or hardware to be modified, pirates will be there. Like a sport.
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#33 blackdreamhunk
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I was going loking stuff up on the net all right are attacks on pc gaming so why don't talk about console pircay? I will tell you why the don't want people to know the whole truth.