How can anyone actually say the ps3 will win at this point?

how can you say that it won't at this point? It's not even released in Europe.Doomshine

EXACTLY!!

I wish people would stop it with the PS3 bashing threads already. IT JUST CAME OUT. and its not even out everywhere yet. If a year from now things haven't changed, then i would worry if I was a PS3 owner. As of right now, I see no reason for panic.

They look the blockbuster games that have yet to be released that are surefire million sellers.InfamousC

Simple. If history has shown us anything, its that something is not over until its over.

For example, while this may seem as if out of context, many folks doubt that United States had any kind of realistic chance against British back in the Revolutionary days...and if you would have judge the basis on the entire war from the early battles alone...you would have been "right on the money" correct...and yet...despite all of the grim feelings at the begging...despite grim hope.....United States, at the end of the day (well, you know what I mean), proved to be victorious...

So, with that being said, while I am not necessarily saying that Sony and Play Station 3 will prove doubters wrong, battle for market dominance has only begun.....

In another words...simply too early to judge things.....how about we wait another year until we say who has "won" or "lost," once all of the consoles have a) been released in all major regions and b) had chance to be on the market, at the very least, for year.

After all...unless I mistaken...when executive from the current leader of the market states that its too early to judge who will "win" or "loss" until (see what I stated in the above sentence), I think I can safely say that its too early to judge...

sony has better exclusives than 360 or wii.  clickflipknoc

how many of those games were pushed back to '08.... and how does anyone think killzone will be AAA when they havent seen anything from it especially considering the first one sucked? It could be AAA but it could be crap.

your info is outdated.

How is it even possible? If someone is going to say sony will have a turn around, Id like them to explain how!
jessmo30_basic

Easy!

Sell in all three territories = WIN!

Sell in only two out of three territories = LOSE!

The Japan/Asian market is not as big as it use to be but you still need it to win.

How is it even possible? If someone is going to say sony will have a turn around, Id like them to explain how!
jessmo30_basic

How is it even possible? Look.

Sony could

-Drop the premium price to $400 and take a huge hit. NIn,M$ will respond with price cuts.

-Make another sku without blue ray and have a blue ray addon, price it between $350,$400 Again M$ and nin will just under cut them.
-Focus on the $500 dollar sku. see above to see what M$ and nintendo would do.

regardless of if it has FF or not, consumers have voted with there wallets. and $600 dollars is not mass market.

If someone is going to say sony will have a turn around, Id like them to explain how!
jessmo30_basic

RELEASE GREAT games.

simple as that.

have a good day man

PS3 won't win. It will be 3rd place.zazoo4455

sony has better exclusives than 360 or wii.  clickflipknoc

You do realise that multi-plat games often sell more than exclusives? You would be suprised how many people in the UK bought the PS2 for FIFA, Need for Speed and GTA

Simple. If history has shown us anything, its that something is not over until its over.

For example, while this may seem as if out of context, many folks doubt that United States had any kind of realistic chance against British back in the Revolutionary days...and if you would have judge the basis on the entire war from the early battles alone...you would have been "right on the money" correct...and yet...despite all of the grim feelings at the begging...despite grim hope.....United States, at the end of the day (well, you know what I mean), proved to be victorious...

So, with that being said, while I am not necessarily saying that Sony and Play Station 3 will prove doubters wrong, battle for market dominance has only begun.....

In another words...simply too early to judge things.....how about we wait another year until we say who has "won" or "lost," once all of the consoles have a) been released in all major regions and b) had chance to be on the market, at the very least, for year.

After all...unless I mistaken...when executive from the current leader of the market states that its too early to judge who will "win" or "loss" until (see what I stated in the above sentence), I think I can safely say that its too early to judge...

Link256

It's supposed to have a 10 year life span, so in a while they will have things fixed up.her0_54

how can anyone say that Sony will lose this gen?

For one, how do you define "losing". How does a company LOSE in this market?

Give me a good definition of losing, and i will give you a cookie. And dont say "number of consols sold". Number of consols sold wont cause Sony or any other company to shrivel up in shame and die in a corner.

sony has better exclusives than 360 or wii.  clickflipknoc

sony has better exclusives than 360 or wii.  clickflipknoc

omfg. THE PRICE IS NOT WHAT IS PREVENTING THE PS3 FROM WINNING. i know i sound like a snob (and don't care), but a lot of people CAN afford it. it is a whole bunch of things. such as the lack of must have games, the lack of a release in EUROPE, the arrogant approach sony is taking, the lack of previous playstation powerhouse sellers. All these things add up. The ps3, atm, IS NOT A GOOD SYSTEM. Go ahead, compare it to the xbox 360 and tell me how it's better. why, because it has bluray? 360 has a hddvd addon if you're that desperate for high definition. In the future, if Sony can get its act together with those exclusives, and a general flow of games coming to the system, it may improve. but atm, price is only a small factor. inter_wog

how can anyone say that Sony will lose this gen?

For one, how do you define "losing". How does a company LOSE in this market?

Give me a good definition of losing, and i will give you a cookie. And dont say "number of consols sold". Number of consols sold wont cause Sony or any other company to shrivel up in shame and die in a corner.

HellsAngel2c

Why do people keep making these threads:|

It hasnt even been out for a year

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how can anyone say that Sony will lose this gen?

For one, how do you define "losing". How does a company LOSE in this market?

Give me a good definition of losing, and i will give you a cookie. And dont say "number of consols sold". Number of consols sold wont cause Sony or any other company to shrivel up in shame and die in a corner.

Truewiseblade

[QUOTE="HellsAngel2c"]

how can anyone say that Sony will lose this gen?

For one, how do you define "losing". How does a company LOSE in this market?

Give me a good definition of losing, and i will give you a cookie. And dont say "number of consols sold". Number of consols sold wont cause Sony or any other company to shrivel up in shame and die in a corner.

Truewiseblade

sony can't "win" either way.

to "win" the goal is to sell the most and generate profits.

if sony slashes the ps3's price, they may sell the most, but will incur HUGE losses to sony. 

and yes, MS has had their 360's in production longer, giving them a huge lead in cost and price reduction over sony. not to mention MS has limitless funds.

how do you win a poker game against a player with limitless funds?  you don't...  that's why casino's are as successful as they are...;)

[QUOTE="flipknoc"]sony has better exclusives than 360 or wii.  clickMass_Effect

You do realise that multi-plat games often sell more than exclusives? You would be suprised how many people in the UK bought the PS2 for FIFA, Need for Speed and GTA

I don't think the PS3 will last 4 years let alone 10. It's rather simple really. Currently Sony is expending it's hardcore loyalist's in NA and Japan, and if sales are anything to go by, they are almost done. After the PS3 has depleted it's loyalist's in Europe and Australia, the PS3 will flatline. bluebrad1974

Simple. If history has shown us anything, its that something is not over until its over.

For example, while this may seem as if out of context, many folks doubt that United States had any kind of realistic chance against British back in the Revolutionary days...and if you would have judge the basis on the entire war from the early battles alone...you would have been "right on the money" correct...and yet...despite all of the grim feelings at the begging...despite grim hope.....United States, at the end of the day (well, you know what I mean), proved to be victorious...

Link256

I'm not going to go into a debate about this, but America had the French and Spanish fighting against the English. Sony doesn't have anyone backing them up. But I still think Sony could win this gen

[QUOTE="Link256"]

Simple. If history has shown us anything, its that something is not over until its over.

For example, while this may seem as if out of context, many folks doubt that United States had any kind of realistic chance against British back in the Revolutionary days...and if you would have judge the basis on the entire war from the early battles alone...you would have been "right on the money" correct...and yet...despite all of the grim feelings at the begging...despite grim hope.....United States, at the end of the day (well, you know what I mean), proved to be victorious...

Mass_Effect

I'm not going to go into a debate about this, but America had the French and Spanish fighting against the English. Sony doesn't have anyone backing them up. But I still think Sony could win this gen

sony has better exclusives than 360 or wii. clickflipknoc

[QUOTE="Doomshine"]how can you say that it won't at this point? It's not even released in Europe.mazdero

EXACTLY!!

I wish people would stop it with the PS3 bashing threads already. IT JUST CAME OUT. and its not even out everywhere yet. If a year from now things haven't changed, then i would worry if I was a PS3 owner. As of right now, I see no reason for panic.

It is true, Europe is a very important asset for Sony. Its just fanboy talk anyway.

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[QUOTE="Doomshine"]how can you say that it won't at this point? It's not even released in Europe.Leejjohno

EXACTLY!!

I wish people would stop it with the PS3 bashing threads already. IT JUST CAME OUT. and its not even out everywhere yet. If a year from now things haven't changed, then i would worry if I was a PS3 owner. As of right now, I see no reason for panic.

It is true, Europe is a very important asset for Sony. Its just fanboy talk anyway.

[QUOTE="bluebrad1974"]I don't think the PS3 will last 4 years let alone 10. It's rather simple really. Currently Sony is expending it's hardcore loyalist's in NA and Japan, and if sales are anything to go by, they are almost done. After the PS3 has depleted it's loyalist's in Europe and Australia, the PS3 will flatline. Nike_Air

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[QUOTE="Doomshine"]how can you say that it won't at this point? It's not even released in Europe.dsmccracken

EXACTLY!!

I wish people would stop it with the PS3 bashing threads already. IT JUST CAME OUT. and its not even out everywhere yet. If a year from now things haven't changed, then i would worry if I was a PS3 owner. As of right now, I see no reason for panic.

It is true, Europe is a very important asset for Sony. Its just fanboy talk anyway.

No.... UK happens to be in Europe, now what is it? The 4th richest country in the world or something? The point is there, that most people in the UK will own a PS3. You need to stop being ignorant.

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[QUOTE="Doomshine"]how can you say that it won't at this point? It's not even released in Europe.Leejjohno

EXACTLY!!

I wish people would stop it with the PS3 bashing threads already. IT JUST CAME OUT. and its not even out everywhere yet. If a year from now things haven't changed, then i would worry if I was a PS3 owner. As of right now, I see no reason for panic.

It is true, Europe is a very important asset for Sony. Its just fanboy talk anyway.

No.... UK happens to be in Europe, now what is it? The 4th richest country in the world or something? The point is there, that most people in the UK will own a PS3. You need to stop being ignorant.

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[QUOTE="Doomshine"]how can you say that it won't at this point? It's not even released in Europe.Leejjohno

EXACTLY!!

I wish people would stop it with the PS3 bashing threads already. IT JUST CAME OUT. and its not even out everywhere yet. If a year from now things haven't changed, then i would worry if I was a PS3 owner. As of right now, I see no reason for panic.

It is true, Europe is a very important asset for Sony. Its just fanboy talk anyway.

No.... UK happens to be in Europe, now what is it? The 4th richest country in the world or something? The point is there, that most people in the UK will own a PS3. You need to stop being ignorant.

1. you shouldn't pretend to know what people will buy.  the ps2 was waaaaaaay cheaper than the ps3, so don't compare the two.

2. it was predicted North america would flock to the ps3 because of their salary ranges... guess what.... didn't happen...;)