How come people talk about CoD getting milked when Mario has over 100 games?

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#1 metalguitar13
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Discuss.

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#2 turtlethetaffer
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His games aren't rehashes of one another. Plus there's alot of variety to them. RPG's, sports, racing...

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#3 UC3Drake
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Sunshine, Galaxy, Paper Mario, SM64 , Mario Kart, and M&L are completely different games. You cant tell the difference from MW2 and Black Ops.

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#4 BigBoss154
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If it's good milk, then why complain?

Call of Duty went sour after 4.

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#5 turtlethetaffer
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If it's good milk, then why complain?

Call of Duty went sour after 4.

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Good response.

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#6 Lucianu
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metalguitar13

It's the millionth thread regarding this, and it's really simple, like another user put it.

Milking a game is not bad, per se. It never was (FF 1 - 9 for example are all solid, good games, X, XII and XIII all have huge fanbases also, also have differences betwen them).

It's wen it's milked in a wrong way (CoD rehash every year, minimal differences, basically same settings, same engine since CoD 4), then it is bad.

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#7 moistsandwich
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If you dont know the answer to this, then you BE CASUAL

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#8 Big_Pecks
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Because Mario innovates.

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#9 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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A library of 100 games from a franchsie that has been around for almost 3 decades doesn't go into the milkage category, especially since not all Mario games are platformers. You have most of the important genres of games represented, with quality, innovation and variety coming together. Not every game is a win, but most are.

COD has some quality games in it's list, but it's a newer franchise that has quite a few releases all in the same genre.

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#10 LaytonsCat
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because, theres variety and fun in those 100 + games

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#11 Silverbond
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1. People talk about Mario being milked all the time.

2. Variety

3. Discuss?

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#12 turtlethetaffer
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This thread should just end here. Mario is no where near the level of rehash that CoD is every year.

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Sunshine, Galaxy, Paper Mario, SM64 , Mario Kart, and M&L are completely different games. You cant tell the difference from MW2 and Black Ops.

UC3Drake

Also Mario games don't get annual releases

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#14 catfishmoon23
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I think it's because it's just Mario/Nintendo characters being overused vs. the same game formula being overused.

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#15 LaytonsCat
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[QUOTE="UC3Drake"]

Sunshine, Galaxy, Paper Mario, SM64 , Mario Kart, and M&L are completely different games. You cant tell the difference from MW2 and Black Ops.

Rougehunter

Also Mario games don't get annual releases

Very true 1996, 03, 07, 10 is hardly milkage

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#16 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="Rougehunter"]

[QUOTE="UC3Drake"]

Sunshine, Galaxy, Paper Mario, SM64 , Mario Kart, and M&L are completely different games. You cant tell the difference from MW2 and Black Ops.

LaytonsCat

Also Mario games don't get annual releases

Very true 1996, 03, 07, 10 is hardly milkage

That's only for platformers. Really, Mario usually has a new game released every year, but they're always different, so, basically, it's a different game every year.

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A library of 100 games from a franchsie that has been around for almost 3 decades doesn't go into the milkage category, especially since not all Mario games are platformers. You have most of the important genres of games represented, with quality, innovation and variety coming together. Not every game is a win, but most are.

COD has some quality games in it's list, but it's a newer franchise that has quite a few releases all in the same genre.

jimkabrhel

I remember back then, it was sometimes 3-4 before we ever saw another Mario game. They were spaced out almost too far (IMO) but when they came, oh boy did they come with excitment.

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[QUOTE="LaytonsCat"]

[QUOTE="Rougehunter"]Also Mario games don't get annual releases

turtlethetaffer

Very true 1996, 03, 07, 10 is hardly milkage

That's only for platformers. Really, Mario usually has a new game released every year, but they're always different, so, basically, it's a different game every year.

Mario Party.
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#19 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="LaytonsCat"]

Very true 1996, 03, 07, 10 is hardly milkage

babyeatermax

That's only for platformers. Really, Mario usually has a new game released every year, but they're always different, so, basically, it's a different game every year.

Mario Party.

When was the last Mario Party made? Not 2010. Yeah, I agree, though, Mario Party tends to be the CoD of Mario.

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imo the only really bad milkage is the kind where you are forced to pay for something continually, especially if it is something that used to be free. I think Xbox live is the biggest source of milkage there is today. I don't see mario games as milkage at all. If anything nintendo is milking their franchises, not their fans
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So Tc you're comparing a franchise made by some company that doesn't care about the quality of their products and just wants to milk their fanbase to the extreme compared to a company that usuallyputs love and care into most of the games in the franchise. Also guess which of the two franchises fits into the two categories above.

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#22 turtlethetaffer
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We all know TC failed, can we let thread die now?

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And each of the games within a particular Mario "Theme" (e.g. platformer, Kart, etc) tends to innovate in some way over its predecessor. Super Mario Bros 2 had had the picking up/digging oddness, SMB3 saw some flying and the map; while in Mario Kart you saw the progression from a fairly standard kart racer (with 'splosions) to a nice racer with stunts (although I'd say they horribly botched the Battle Mode in MK Wii).

CoD doesn't evolve. It just slaps a shinier sticker on the box and shouts "BIGGER!" at you until you buy it.

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Because somehow, boring party games become exciting and innovative when a plumber is doing it.

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#25 turtlethetaffer
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Because somehow, boring party games become exciting and innovative when a plumber is doing it.

FragTycoon

Mario is in other games besides party ones.

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#26 Silverbond
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Because somehow, boring party games become exciting and innovative when a plumber is doing it.

FragTycoon
Joking?
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[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

Because somehow, boring party games become exciting and innovative when a plumber is doing it.

Silverbond

Joking?

No, No, I'm serious, playing a watered down home run derby game with any other character would just be mundane and forgettable but with Mario, new life is blown into the "hay mom, I made this game in 5 days" genera in ways no one could have foreseen.

I salute you Mario, champion of the cheep and myrmidon of mediocrity. May your utters continue to spread lovely white excrement that is the life giving game-milk for all gamers to enjoy.

:|

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[QUOTE="Silverbond"][QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

Because somehow, boring party games become exciting and innovative when a plumber is doing it.

FragTycoon

Joking?

No, No, I'm serious, playing a watered down home run derby game with any other character would just be mundane and forgettable but with Mario, new life is blown into the "hay mom, I made this game in 5 days" genera in ways no one could have foreseen.

I salute you Mario, champion of the cheep and myrmidon of mediocrity. May your utters continue to spread lovely white excrement that is the life giving game-milk for all gamers to enjoy.

:|

Not all of his games are party games.

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#29 p3anut
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When it comes to the "MAIN" Mario games, they don't come around very often. CoD on the other hand is coming out with a new one every year and it's the exact same game with different skins and guns.

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#30 Lost-Memory
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Because with CoD, Every game since CoD2 is basically the same with minimal additions. Mario, Everytime i play Mario it's different, Unless its the oldschool side scroller, WHICH THEY UPDATED as everyone knows so its 4p and way more kickass.
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"][QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

Because somehow, boring party games become exciting and innovative when a plumber is doing it.

FragTycoon

Joking?

No, No, I'm serious, playing a watered down home run derby game with any other character would just be mundane and forgettable but with Mario, new life is blown into the "hay mom, I made this game in 5 days" genera in ways no one could have foreseen.

I salute you Mario, champion of the cheep and myrmidon of mediocrity. May your utters continue to spread lovely white excrement that is the life giving game-milk for all gamers to enjoy.

:|

When's the last time you see a garbage man do this:

Or this:

And of course this:

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#32 Rage010101
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all the main mario games are very different from each other from gameplay mechanics, items, to objectives in the game. now if u wanna pick on the other games mario is in, heck those are even more different from each other as it goes from go-karts, to soccer, to baseball, to mario type boardgames, etc. need i go on? if you dont know this, then you probably havnt played enough mario games to voice such an opinion or you just cant tell the difference between running and a go-kart

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[QUOTE="Silverbond"][QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

Because somehow, boring party games become exciting and innovative when a plumber is doing it.

FragTycoon

Joking?

No, No, I'm serious, playing a watered down home run derby game with any other character would just be mundane and forgettable but with Mario, new life is blown into the "hay mom, I made this game in 5 days" genera in ways no one could have foreseen.

I salute you Mario, champion of the cheep and myrmidon of mediocrity. May your utters continue to spread lovely white excrement that is the life giving game-milk for all gamers to enjoy.

:|

Still mad at that AAAAE and that GOTY it seems ;)

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Mario expands into many genres while Call of Duty prefers to be the Madden of shooters.

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Main mario games come out every few years. CoD is rehashed every year with very little "improvements"
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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

A library of 100 games from a franchsie that has been around for almost 3 decades doesn't go into the milkage category, especially since not all Mario games are platformers. You have most of the important genres of games represented, with quality, innovation and variety coming together. Not every game is a win, but most are.

COD has some quality games in it's list, but it's a newer franchise that has quite a few releases all in the same genre.

Deevoshun

I remember back then, it was sometimes 3-4 before we ever saw another Mario game. They were spaced out almost too far (IMO) but when they came, oh boy did they come with excitment.

Wait. But theres 100+ games in the space of 30 ish years. Sure, theres the platforming, party and racing games, but thats still 3ish a year...

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#37 sethman410
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Just has others mentioned. Cod after 4 are just rehashes. Mario games are all different and refreshing. Pretty simple answer.
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#38 Young_Charter
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If it's good milk, then why complain?

Call of Duty went sour after 4.

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Agreed.
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What amazes me is that people are responding to his question seriously lol.

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#40 nhh18
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Mario and Luigi is the same exact game as paper mario. the game mechanincs everything is the same except one is on ds and couldn't do a 2.5d world and instead is isometric

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#41 Michael0134567
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If it's good milk, then why complain?

Call of Duty went sour after 4.

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Nice response.