How come some notable PS3 exclusives have such terrible controls

I just played a ton of PS3 at a friends house, Warhawk, Killzone 2, Little Big Planet, Metal Gear Solid 4 (Best game ever), and Call of Duty 4. If there is one thing I noticed, it was the awful controls. What's up with this?

To clear it up, I actually like the Dualshock controller. It fights in my hands well, I like the analog placement, and I like the R1 and L1 buttons but I hate the R2 and L2 buttons. Everything else is fine so it's not my hands, don't bother.

Killzone 2: The controls are so sluggish and the response time is ridiculously slow...I don't understand how it could work. The game isn't bad by any means but the controls hamper the experience for me. The game isn't bad but it is overrated and I attribute poor control to being one of the largest reasons why I don't like it as much as most. How can anyone defend these controls...

The Sixaxis sucks too.

Warhawk: What a joke, first of all this game was awful. Third person, poor map selection, it was terrible for a game all about online. The controls also were awful. Shooting was a pain and me and a friend literally ran in a circle for an hour trying to kill eachother. Flying aircraft is like trying to pull a needle out of a haystack. Terrible, awful, six axis control. I can't even begin to describe how awful that was.

Little Big Planet: Why are the control so loose, it feels so awkward. I don't feel like I'm in control sometimes. Shooting is also awful, I was playing the Metal Gear Solid VR Missions and good lord trying to shoot is like trying to shoot a basketball into a soda can. It's impossible to be accurate. Building levels was alright but actually playing the game was frustrating. I like the game a lot though but those damn controls...


I just don't get it, how come they can't get it right? Call of Duty 4 had tight controls, responsive, quick, easy to get the hang of, instantly fun. Metal Gear Solid also controls well despite some streamlining issues.

Seriously though, how can anyone defend the controls of these games. I felt like vomitting especially after doing some of that whirling and twirling in Warhawk.

It's not that bad....

I just played a ton of PS3 at a friends house, Warhawk, Killzone 2, Little Big Planet, Metal Gear Solid 4 (Best game ever), and Call of Duty 4. If there is one thing I noticed, it was the awful controls. What's up with this?

To clear it up, I actually like the Dualshock controller. It fights in my hands well, I like the analog placement, and I like the R1 and L1 buttons but I hate the R2 and L2 buttons. Everything else is fine so it's not my hands, don't bother.

Killzone 2: The controls are so sluggish and the response time is ridiculously slow...I don't understand how it could work. The game isn't bad by any means but the controls hamper the experience for me. The game isn't bad but it is overrated and I attribute poor control to being one of the largest reasons why I don't like it as much as most. How can anyone defend these controls...

The Sixaxis sucks too.

Warhawk: What a joke, first of all this game was awful. Third person, poor map selection, it was terrible for a game all about online. The controls also were awful. Shooting was a pain and me and a friend literally ran in a circle for an hour trying to kill eachother. Flying aircraft is like trying to pull a needle out of a haystack. Terrible, awful, six axis control. I can't even begin to describe how awful that was.

Little Big Planet: Why are the control so loose, it feels so awkward. I don't feel like I'm in control sometimes. Shooting is also awful, I was playing the Metal Gear Solid VR Missions and good lord trying to shoot is like trying to shoot a basketball into a soda can. It's impossible to be accurate. Building levels was alright but actually playing the game was frustrating. I like the game a lot though but those damn controls...


I just don't get it, how come they can't get it right? Call of Duty 4 had tight controls, responsive, quick, easy to get the hang of, instantly fun. Metal Gear Solid also controls well despite some streamlining issues.

Seriously though, how can anyone defend the controls of these games. I felt like vomitting especially after doing some of that whirling and twirling in Warhawk.

Toriko42

Simple you are not used to it I was like that when I first used 360 controller.

After patch 1.27, there's nothing sluggish about KZ2's controls. I really don't see how you found them to be sluggish...Doolz2024

Well KZ2's controls are the same as COD4 when you change them. Sounds like you hate the response issue. I never had an issue with that, I had other issues with that game. LBP has a floaty physics feel so it takes awhile to get used to it. Warhawk is a hard game when you get in the air.

Well that your opinion. I have played all those games and they control great.

Well that your opinion. I have played all those games and they control great.

finalfantasy94

I love the weighted feel of KZ2's controls.

Guess this is what separates the pros from amateurs. I don't think someone who's barely had any experience with the PS3 has any credibility to make any intelligent comment on TEH CONTROLS ZOMG IT'S SO BADDORZ.

i get moderated for stating facts but this guy doesn't get moderated for posting his biased opinions? :|

[QUOTE="Doolz2024"]After patch 1.27, there's nothing sluggish about KZ2's controls. I really don't see how you found them to be sluggish...Toriko42

I just played a ton of PS3 at a friends house, Warhawk, Killzone 2, Little Big Planet, Metal Gear Solid 4 (Best game ever), and Call of Duty 4. If there is one thing I noticed, it was the awful controls. What's up with this?

To clear it up, I actually like the Dualshock controller. It fights in my hands well, I like the analog placement, and I like the R1 and L1 buttons but I hate the R2 and L2 buttons. Everything else is fine so it's not my hands, don't bother.

Killzone 2: The controls are so sluggish and the response time is ridiculously slow...I don't understand how it could work. The game isn't bad by any means but the controls hamper the experience for me. The game isn't bad but it is overrated and I attribute poor control to being one of the largest reasons why I don't like it as much as most. How can anyone defend these controls...

The Sixaxis sucks too.

Warhawk: What a joke, first of all this game was awful. Third person, poor map selection, it was terrible for a game all about online. The controls also were awful. Shooting was a pain and me and a friend literally ran in a circle for an hour trying to kill eachother. Flying aircraft is like trying to pull a needle out of a haystack. Terrible, awful, six axis control. I can't even begin to describe how awful that was.

Little Big Planet: Why are the control so loose, it feels so awkward. I don't feel like I'm in control sometimes. Shooting is also awful, I was playing the Metal Gear Solid VR Missions and good lord trying to shoot is like trying to shoot a basketball into a soda can. It's impossible to be accurate. Building levels was alright but actually playing the game was frustrating. I like the game a lot though but those damn controls...


I just don't get it, how come they can't get it right? Call of Duty 4 had tight controls, responsive, quick, easy to get the hang of, instantly fun. Metal Gear Solid also controls well despite some streamlining issues.

Seriously though, how can anyone defend the controls of these games. I felt like vomitting especially after doing some of that whirling and twirling in Warhawk.

Toriko42

[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="Doolz2024"]After patch 1.27, there's nothing sluggish about KZ2's controls. I really don't see how you found them to be sluggish...Doolz2024

[QUOTE="Toriko42"]

I just played a ton of PS3 at a friends house, Warhawk, Killzone 2, Little Big Planet, Metal Gear Solid 4 (Best game ever), and Call of Duty 4. If there is one thing I noticed, it was the awful controls. What's up with this?

To clear it up, I actually like the Dualshock controller. It fights in my hands well, I like the analog placement, and I like the R1 and L1 buttons but I hate the R2 and L2 buttons. Everything else is fine so it's not my hands, don't bother.

Killzone 2: The controls are so sluggish and the response time is ridiculously slow...I don't understand how it could work. The game isn't bad by any means but the controls hamper the experience for me. The game isn't bad but it is overrated and I attribute poor control to being one of the largest reasons why I don't like it as much as most. How can anyone defend these controls...

The Sixaxis sucks too.

Warhawk: What a joke, first of all this game was awful. Third person, poor map selection, it was terrible for a game all about online. The controls also were awful. Shooting was a pain and me and a friend literally ran in a circle for an hour trying to kill eachother. Flying aircraft is like trying to pull a needle out of a haystack. Terrible, awful, six axis control. I can't even begin to describe how awful that was.

Little Big Planet: Why are the control so loose, it feels so awkward. I don't feel like I'm in control sometimes. Shooting is also awful, I was playing the Metal Gear Solid VR Missions and good lord trying to shoot is like trying to shoot a basketball into a soda can. It's impossible to be accurate. Building levels was alright but actually playing the game was frustrating. I like the game a lot though but those damn controls...


I just don't get it, how come they can't get it right? Call of Duty 4 had tight controls, responsive, quick, easy to get the hang of, instantly fun. Metal Gear Solid also controls well despite some streamlining issues.

Seriously though, how can anyone defend the controls of these games. I felt like vomitting especially after doing some of that whirling and twirling in Warhawk.

ermacness

[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="Doolz2024"]After patch 1.27, there's nothing sluggish about KZ2's controls. I really don't see how you found them to be sluggish...Doolz2024

"Terrible" to those who were afraid of change, "Perfect" to everyone else.

[QUOTE="Doolz2024"][QUOTE="Toriko42"] Maybe my friend doesn't patch but I found the response time to be awfulProChamp

"Terrible" to those who were afraid of change, "Perfect" to everyone else.

Maybe my friend doesn't patch but I found the response time to be awfulDoolz2024

[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="LeGoofyGoober"]Is your friend's PS3 connected to the internet, and were you signed into to PSN while playing it? If not, then you're probably playing a non-patched KZ2, which had TERRIBLE controls.Doolz2024

You do know that you can leave the Sixaxis flying controls in the deafault off position in warhawk. Then you just use the left stick to steer, and the right stick to dodge/quick flips

But yes LittleBigPlanets loose controls take time to get used to. It annoyed me the whole time but i liked the game anyways.

You do know that you can leave the Sixaxis flying controls in the deafault off position in warhawk. Then you just use the left stick to steer, and the right stick to dodge/quick flips

kkevguy47k

KZ2 was a different style of FPS. Just because you couldn't adapt to a different FPS doesn't make the controls poor/sluggish, TC.

I just played a ton of PS3 at a friends house, Warhawk, Killzone 2, Little Big Planet, Metal Gear Solid 4 (Best game ever), and Call of Duty 4. If there is one thing I noticed, it was the awful controls. What's up with this?

To clear it up, I actually like the Dualshock controller. It fights in my hands well, I like the analog placement, and I like the R1 and L1 buttons but I hate the R2 and L2 buttons. Everything else is fine so it's not my hands, don't bother.

Killzone 2: The controls are so sluggish and the response time is ridiculously slow...I don't understand how it could work. The game isn't bad by any means but the controls hamper the experience for me. The game isn't bad but it is overrated and I attribute poor control to being one of the largest reasons why I don't like it as much as most. How can anyone defend these controls...

The Sixaxis sucks too.

Warhawk: What a joke, first of all this game was awful. Third person, poor map selection, it was terrible for a game all about online. The controls also were awful. Shooting was a pain and me and a friend literally ran in a circle for an hour trying to kill eachother. Flying aircraft is like trying to pull a needle out of a haystack. Terrible, awful, six axis control. I can't even begin to describe how awful that was.

Little Big Planet: Why are the control so loose, it feels so awkward. I don't feel like I'm in control sometimes. Shooting is also awful, I was playing the Metal Gear Solid VR Missions and good lord trying to shoot is like trying to shoot a basketball into a soda can. It's impossible to be accurate. Building levels was alright but actually playing the game was frustrating. I like the game a lot though but those damn controls...


I just don't get it, how come they can't get it right? Call of Duty 4 had tight controls, responsive, quick, easy to get the hang of, instantly fun. Metal Gear Solid also controls well despite some streamlining issues.

Seriously though, how can anyone defend the controls of these games. I felt like vomitting especially after doing some of that whirling and twirling in Warhawk.

Toriko42

What the hell are you talking about..... KZ2 is a regular shooter with normal controls... i dont get it how rush you are being by saying things like...Warhawk? poor map selection..you gotta be kidding me, yeah this system wars is all full of fanboys..... stop making useless critics like this.... you guys are jelaous with the others system exclusives...vomiting for bad controllers, ppff im the one who should be vomiting for all this...make some decent constructive arguments

[QUOTE="Toriko42"]

I just played a ton of PS3 at a friends house, Warhawk, Killzone 2, Little Big Planet, Metal Gear Solid 4 (Best game ever), and Call of Duty 4. If there is one thing I noticed, it was the awful controls. What's up with this?

To clear it up, I actually like the Dualshock controller. It fights in my hands well, I like the analog placement, and I like the R1 and L1 buttons but I hate the R2 and L2 buttons. Everything else is fine so it's not my hands, don't bother.

Killzone 2: The controls are so sluggish and the response time is ridiculously slow...I don't understand how it could work. The game isn't bad by any means but the controls hamper the experience for me. The game isn't bad but it is overrated and I attribute poor control to being one of the largest reasons why I don't like it as much as most. How can anyone defend these controls...

The Sixaxis sucks too.

Warhawk: What a joke, first of all this game was awful. Third person, poor map selection, it was terrible for a game all about online. The controls also were awful. Shooting was a pain and me and a friend literally ran in a circle for an hour trying to kill eachother. Flying aircraft is like trying to pull a needle out of a haystack. Terrible, awful, six axis control. I can't even begin to describe how awful that was.

Little Big Planet: Why are the control so loose, it feels so awkward. I don't feel like I'm in control sometimes. Shooting is also awful, I was playing the Metal Gear Solid VR Missions and good lord trying to shoot is like trying to shoot a basketball into a soda can. It's impossible to be accurate. Building levels was alright but actually playing the game was frustrating. I like the game a lot though but those damn controls...


I just don't get it, how come they can't get it right? Call of Duty 4 had tight controls, responsive, quick, easy to get the hang of, instantly fun. Metal Gear Solid also controls well despite some streamlining issues.

Seriously though, how can anyone defend the controls of these games. I felt like vomitting especially after doing some of that whirling and twirling in Warhawk.

Maikedi

What the hell are you talking about..... KZ2 is a regular shooter with normal controls... i dont get it how rush you are being by saying things like...Warhawk? poor map selection..you gotta be kidding me, yeah this system wars is all full of fanboys..... stop making useless critics like this.... you guys are jelaous with the others system exclusives...vomiting for bad controllers, ppff im the one who should be vomiting for all this...make some decent constructive arguments

[QUOTE="kkevguy47k"]

You do know that you can leave the Sixaxis flying controls in the deafault off position in warhawk. Then you just use the left stick to steer, and the right stick to dodge/quick flips

Toriko42

You suck at it. There, I said it.

[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="kkevguy47k"]

You do know that you can leave the Sixaxis flying controls in the deafault off position in warhawk. Then you just use the left stick to steer, and the right stick to dodge/quick flips

Storm_Marine

You suck at it. There, I said it.

Anyway....You mentioned 3 PS3 exclusives with subjectively bad controls.... Yay. Generalizations like yours are not usually worth making threads about. Especially when it's just so....subjective.

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="Toriko42"] I tried anything and it was still terrible. Quick flips almost exploded my heart. Toriko42

You suck at it. There, I said it.

Some games, have steep learning curves. That's just how it is.

P.S. I'm also slightly annoyed that you're bashing my 2nd favorite and most played of this generation. :? ;)

I love the weighted feel of KZ2's controls.

Guess this is what separates the pros from amateurs. I don't think someone who's barely had any experience with the PS3 has any credibility to make any intelligent comment on TEH CONTROLS ZOMG IT'S SO BADDORZ.

Gxgear

Toriko: heres your answer...even so, it would be a waste of time trying to explain why you dont like LBP and Warhawk controls, you cant handle them

If you wanna talk about rly bad controls...i tell you something...try playing Street Fighter games in both systems, and we will se how you can preform a freakin "shoryuken" in xbox360... those are significant things...every street fighter old school gamer would tell you about those controls

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

I love the weighted feel of KZ2's controls.

Guess this is what separates the pros from amateurs. I don't think someone who's barely had any experience with the PS3 has any credibility to make any intelligent comment on TEH CONTROLS ZOMG IT'S SO BADDORZ.

Maikedi

Toriko: heres your answer...even so, it would be a waste of time trying to explain why you dont like LBP and Warhawk controls, you cant handle them

If you wanna talk about rly bad controls...i tell you something...try playing Street Fighter games in both systems, and we will se how you can preform a freakin "shoryuken" in xbox360... those are significant things...every street fighter old school gamer would tell you about those controls

i get moderated for stating facts but this guy doesn't get moderated for posting his biased opinions? :|

LeGoofyGoober

Killzone 2 was the only one i had a problem with. I still hate the controls, even though they TRIED to fix them :Pnavyguy21

Killzone 2 was the only one i had a problem with. I still hate the controls, even though they TRIED to fix them :Pnavyguy21

Killzone 2 was the only one i had a problem with. I still hate the controls, even though they TRIED to fix them :Pnavyguy21

[QUOTE="Stoner-Pimp"]KZ2, the controls are ment to be like that, add in the 1.27 update that removes the deadzone and IMO it has some of the best feeling gunplay i've felt on a console in ages. Warhawk bad controls?, how on earth anyone can think that is beyond me, i know everyone has an opinion but to say warhawk has bad controls is just LOL, it's fluid and easy and the pro mode flight setup is just pure win, try turning off noob flight mode :D. LBP, the only problem is the jumping (it's slighty floaty) BUT that's due to the physics system and it's very easy to get used to.Toriko42

uncharted is another one. i died a few times because of how he jumps. warhawk though i thought it has great controls.menserman