How come that Sony is aquiring more 1st party while it's losing money !!

Gurilla games, Q. dreams, MM ..etc

i dun get it, Sony is supposed to be on a very tight budget, How can it buy all these great dev. ? Luckily everything paied off, but shouldn't MS run after them and bought them before Sony ?? they have the money afterall !!

Different strategies.

One company pushes more towards re-enforcing talent and recruiting talent to create new games/content, the other company pushes more towards paying for new games or securing timed content.

Both do a little of all, but that's how it seems to pan out, for a long time.

It can get a lot more complex than that, but should suffice for SW, because otherwise we need to sit down and write a term paper on the matter.:P

Of those you listed they've only acquired Media Molecule recently - which is actually a relatively small studio (their linkedin states 35 employees). GG was half a decade ago. Quantic Dream is independent. They should acquire Hello Games.

Microsoft has a wierd philosophy where timed exclusives are somehow more important than having real ones made by a first party.Parasomniac

And its even more weird that they are ahead of the PS3.....

[QUOTE="Parasomniac"]Microsoft has a wierd philosophy where timed exclusives are somehow more important than having real ones made by a first party.KaoSXFACTOR

And its even more weird that they are ahead of the PS3.....

Of those you listed they've only acquired Media Molecule recently - which is actually a relatively small studio (their linkedin states 35 employees). GG was half a decade ago. Quantic Dream is independent. They should acquire Hello Games.

shinrabanshou

Since the 360 is the PS3's primary competitor, Sony is probably insuring that they have more substance to offer in the long run. This is also usually key to console launches where exclusives are top priority on choosing your system. Sony is also probably looking at Nintendo, seeing how 1st party titles can pay off pretty big, it's an investment.

LBP - money made

Uncharted - money made

Heavenly Sword - money made (although Ninja Theory didnt apparently).

Warhawk - money made

Heavy Rain - money made

Infamous - money made

GOW - money made

Demons Souls - money made

The Show - money made

Killzone - money made

Resistance - money made

Fact is all these games have made Sony money (some more so than others) and the only ones i can think of that didnt are Folkore and Socom, but then i dont know their budgets so its possible there too.

I think this stratgey is working for them despite losing money in other areas so all they need to do is continue it.

Different strategies.

One company pushes more towards re-enforcing talent and recruiting talent to create new games/content, the other company pushes more towards paying for new games or securing timed content.

Both do a little of all, but that's how it seems to pan out, for a long time.

It can get a lot more complex than that, but should suffice for SW, because otherwise we need to sit down and write a term paper on the matter.:P

SolidTy

yeah i agree...

They are losing money because those new studios aren't making games that sell as much as they need to.Willy105

links?

[QUOTE="Parasomniac"]Microsoft has a wierd philosophy where timed exclusives are somehow more important than having real ones made by a first party.KaoSXFACTOR

And its even more weird that they are ahead of the PS3.....

[QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

[QUOTE="Parasomniac"]Microsoft has a wierd philosophy where timed exclusives are somehow more important than having real ones made by a first party.SaltyMeatballs

And its even more weird that they are ahead of the PS3.....

Microsoft has a wierd philosophy where timed exclusives are somehow more important than having real ones made by a first party.Parasomniac

My guess is they are cheaper & marketing wise the cost for the effect is better then buying an exclusive. For example, (numbers completely made up) it might cost a million for a 30 day timed exclusive. The impatient buy it first for that console if they have the console; most sales would come from here I guess. The really impatient by a console for it. The uninformed will do the same, & would be more inclined to buy a console for it if they didn't know it would be released on another console later. So for a million you would make a better profit then sinking a couple hundred million or so for a top line developer for an exclusive that could bomb.

I could be completely wrong, it's just a guess. With that said, if it wasn't for PC/360 titles (And my true love, Halo), I'd be pretty annoyed at this strategy. As long as I'm not missing out on something too good because of it, I'm not too fussed. I'd prefer Sonys strategy however, but I'm not sure which would be better for me in the long run (More money for MS might mean better games?).

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Different strategies.

One company pushes more towards re-enforcing talent and recruiting talent to create new games/content, the other company pushes more towards paying for new games or securing timed content.

Both do a little of all, but that's how it seems to pan out, for a long time.

It can get a lot more complex than that, but should suffice for SW, because otherwise we need to sit down and write a term paper on the matter.:P

Malta_1980

yeah i agree...

I agree too. :P

Is there a mystery afoot?

Gurilla games, Q. dreams, MM ..etc

i dun get it, Sony is supposed to be on a very tight budget, How can it buy all these great dev. ? Luckily everything paied off, but shouldn't MS run after them and bought them before Sony ?? they have the money afterall !!

omho88

do you have links that sony is losing money or are you just saying that

Gurilla games, Q. dreams, MM ..etc

i dun get it, Sony is supposed to be on a very tight budget, How can it buy all these great dev. ? Luckily everything paied off, but shouldn't MS run after them and bought them before Sony ?? they have the money afterall !!

do you have links that sony is losing money or are you just saying that

Chris_Williams

Because Sony realizes that as game development continues getting more and more expensive, they can no longer rely on third party exclusives. At least, not without paying a ton of money to buy temporary exclusive rights for games no guaranteed to help sell consoles anyway.

Sony knows that if they are going to do well over the long-term, they need to rely on exclusive software and the ONLY way to do that is too buy developers. Established large developers are way too much to buy, so buying smaller developers is the way to go.

Probably because they are actually thinking ahead, a decent first party line up will keep you going in this business a lot longer than relying on the extremely fickle and unloyal third party companies.

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="omho88"]

Gurilla games, Q. dreams, MM ..etc

i dun get it, Sony is supposed to be on a very tight budget, How can it buy all these great dev. ? Luckily everything paied off, but shouldn't MS run after them and bought them before Sony ?? they have the money afterall !!

mayceV

They are losing money because those new studios aren't making games that sell as much as they need to.Willy105

Pretty sure they not long ago announced their making money off PS3's sold now. Who said they where on a tight budget?

[QUOTE="mayceV"][QUOTE="Zero_epyon"] Sony was losing money this gen for sure. However, they are not climbing out of a huge whole like MS is right now. MS have not made up the 6 Billion loss from last gen yet. Sony came in this gen with a surplus. That's why I think it's funny when people think Sony is going broke and can't survive to next gen.ianuilliam

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="mayceV"] yeah they have MS has been in the black since 07.Zero_epyon