How devastating will it be if Sony finishes third in the December NPD?

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#1 John_Connor
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Two NPD tracking periods in a row. The biggest of the year.

Word at the installbase forums is that the well ran dry and Sony can't produce enough PS5's to finish anything but third place this generation, at least until the chip shortages are over which are estimated to be as far back as 2026.

Apparently the Xbox Series S is much easier to produce and MS really lucked out because it wasn't even planned for Covid shortages, as that was pre pandemic.

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Bout sums it up. lol :P

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@hardwenzen said:

Wish they sent like two T-1000's to clap your ass.

If Terminator doesn't kill him, the drug use will.

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#6 John_Connor
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@SecretPolice said:

Bout sums it up. lol :P

I'm still hoping for the best for Sony, but what I'm hearing at Installbase. where all the sales insiders hang out, is all kinds of bad news this generation.

Buckle up Sony fans, it's going to be a rough generation.

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#7 SolidGame_basic
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If this type of stuff devastates you then you need to get some fresh air 😄

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#8  Edited By John_Connor
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@SolidGame_basic said:

If this type of stuff devastates you then you need to get some fresh air 😄

You have 34 thousand posts. I bet you're a massive Sony fan as well.

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#9  Edited By SolidGame_basic
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@john_connor said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

If this type of stuff devastates you then you need to get some fresh air 😄

You have 34 thousand posts. I bet you're a massive Sony fan as well.

Yep, been a member for almost 20 years. More than that if you count the time this site was videogames.com

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It won't do or mean much at all. PlayStation had been beating Xbox in NPD for like 11 straight months and, I don't think it'll last very long at all.

Fwiw, I'm not convinced Xbox can actually produce more consoles.

If the Series S was easier to produce, why had it been selling less than the PS5 since launch? (and still does worldwide)

My opinion is that Microsoft held back more stock for the holiday season since they had Forza and, Halo to launch while PlayStation couldn't do the same since they had to push more consoles throughout the year for games like Ratchet, Deathloop etc. They also need more consoles for Horizon and, GT7

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#11 John_Connor
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@SolidGame_basic said:
@john_connor said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

If this type of stuff devastates you then you need to get some fresh air 😄

You have 34 thousand posts. I bet you're a massive Sony fan as well.

Yep, been a member for almost 20 years. More than that if you count the time this site was videogames.com

These are unscrupulous lies.

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#12  Edited By John_Connor
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@Nonstop-Madness said:

It won't do or mean much at all. PlayStation had been beating Xbox in NPD for like 11 straight months and, I don't think it'll last very long at all.

Fwiw, I'm not convinced Xbox can actually produce more consoles.

If the Series S was easier to produce, why had it been selling less than the PS5 since launch? (and still does worldwide)

My opinion is that Microsoft held back more stock for the holiday season since they had Forza and, Halo to launch while PlayStation couldn't do the same since they had to push more consoles throughout the year for games like Ratchet, Deathloop etc. They also need more consoles for Horizon and, GT7

Sony had been stockpiling PS5's prior to the chip shortage that they have been dispersing throughout the year, and the well ran dry this holiday.

All will be made clear this NPD.

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@john_connor said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

If this type of stuff devastates you then you need to get some fresh air 😄

You have 34 thousand posts. I bet you're a massive Sony fan as well.

Look who's talking for someone that's supposed to be new around here. Anyone who is somewhat new hardly if ever cares about post counts.

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BTW, PS5 production has not stopped completely but they have by far the slowest supply lines of the big three.

This could impact the Playstation brand badly as they will be relegated to third place for the next several years.

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The conspiracy theories are always an interesting read.

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@davillain- said:
@john_connor said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

If this type of stuff devastates you then you need to get some fresh air 😄

You have 34 thousand posts. I bet you're a massive Sony fan as well.

Look who's talking for someone that's supposed to be new around here. Anyone who is somewhat new hardly if ever cares about post counts.

He told me I needed to go out for fresh air and I noticed immediately he has over 30 k posts because it says right under his name like LOL man.

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#17 Pedro
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@john_connor: Don't make it so obvious that you are an alt son.😂

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#18  Edited By John_Connor
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Right 😂

Anyway, I don't care what you guys believe. Stay tuned for this NPD and you'll see I'm a man who knows things.

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#19  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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@john_connor said:

He told me I needed to go out for fresh air and I noticed immediately he has over 30 k posts because it says right under his name like LOL man.

Yeah yeah, that's what they always say whenever someone is new here riiiight? Well in any case, I'm gonna go play more Gris I got on Steam winter sale so have a nice day😏

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Switch >> Series >> PS5

and Oculus Quest 2 sold amazing.

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@john_connor said:

Two NPD tracking periods in a row. The biggest of the year.

Word at the installbase forums is that the well ran dry and Sony can't produce enough PS5's to finish anything but third place this generation, at least until the chip shortages are over which are estimated to be as far back as 2026.

Apparently the Xbox Series S is much easier to produce and MS really lucked out because it wasn't even planned for Covid shortages, as that was pre pandemic.

Can you link us to the thread in question at installbase?

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#22  Edited By John_Connor
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@x_hedon said:
@john_connor said:

Two NPD tracking periods in a row. The biggest of the year.

Word at the installbase forums is that the well ran dry and Sony can't produce enough PS5's to finish anything but third place this generation, at least until the chip shortages are over which are estimated to be as far back as 2026.

Apparently the Xbox Series S is much easier to produce and MS really lucked out because it wasn't even planned for Covid shortages, as that was pre pandemic.

Can you link us to the thread in question at installbase?

It's fairly irrelevant if you're not an actual member though because you can't read the posts. Approval takes a while. Only the best are recruited. All the industry insiders and devs post there now and moved on from the freakshow forums like Neogaf and Resetera.

https://www.installbaseforum.com/forums/threads/npd-november-2021-call-of-duty-1-battlefield-2-pokemon-3-forza-horizon-4-switch-1-in-units-and-revenue-update-2-nsw-1-13m-xbox-2.340/page-10

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@john_connor said:
@x_hedon said:
@john_connor said:

Two NPD tracking periods in a row. The biggest of the year.

Word at the installbase forums is that the well ran dry and Sony can't produce enough PS5's to finish anything but third place this generation, at least until the chip shortages are over which are estimated to be as far back as 2026.

Apparently the Xbox Series S is much easier to produce and MS really lucked out because it wasn't even planned for Covid shortages, as that was pre pandemic.

Can you link us to the thread in question at installbase?

It's fairly irrelevant if you're not an actual member though because you can't read the posts. Approval takes a while. Only the best are recruited.

https://www.installbaseforum.com/forums/threads/npd-november-2021-call-of-duty-1-battlefield-2-pokemon-3-forza-horizon-4-switch-1-in-units-and-revenue-update-2-nsw-1-13m-xbox-2.340/page-10

Well that sucks :(. How about a referral?

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@hardwenzen said:

Wish they sent like two T-1000's to clap your ass.

... You ok?

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#25  Edited By John_Connor
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@x_hedon said:
@john_connor said:
@x_hedon said:
@john_connor said:

Two NPD tracking periods in a row. The biggest of the year.

Word at the installbase forums is that the well ran dry and Sony can't produce enough PS5's to finish anything but third place this generation, at least until the chip shortages are over which are estimated to be as far back as 2026.

Apparently the Xbox Series S is much easier to produce and MS really lucked out because it wasn't even planned for Covid shortages, as that was pre pandemic.

Can you link us to the thread in question at installbase?

It's fairly irrelevant if you're not an actual member though because you can't read the posts. Approval takes a while. Only the best are recruited.

https://www.installbaseforum.com/forums/threads/npd-november-2021-call-of-duty-1-battlefield-2-pokemon-3-forza-horizon-4-switch-1-in-units-and-revenue-update-2-nsw-1-13m-xbox-2.340/page-10

Well that sucks :(. How about a referral?

I can't refer anyone unless I've known them for a while otherwise I'll get shit canned.

Hint though...they ask you to fill out some short essay to join. If you stand out they'll bring you on board.

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@hardwenzen said:

Wish they sent like two T-1000's to clap your ass.

Seems like you are sacred that the noob is going to steal your already dimming spotlight.😎

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@techhog89 said:
@hardwenzen said:

Wish they sent like two T-1000's to clap your ass.

... You ok?

And YOU are the one asking?😊What a silly goose

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Shouldn't have to be devastating when one of the big three has to land there. Look at the bright side: usually the third place company for a gen bounces back with something better after the lessons they've had.

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@john_connor said:
@x_hedon said:
@john_connor said:
@x_hedon said:
@john_connor said:

Two NPD tracking periods in a row. The biggest of the year.

Word at the installbase forums is that the well ran dry and Sony can't produce enough PS5's to finish anything but third place this generation, at least until the chip shortages are over which are estimated to be as far back as 2026.

Apparently the Xbox Series S is much easier to produce and MS really lucked out because it wasn't even planned for Covid shortages, as that was pre pandemic.

Can you link us to the thread in question at installbase?

It's fairly irrelevant if you're not an actual member though because you can't read the posts. Approval takes a while. Only the best are recruited.

https://www.installbaseforum.com/forums/threads/npd-november-2021-call-of-duty-1-battlefield-2-pokemon-3-forza-horizon-4-switch-1-in-units-and-revenue-update-2-nsw-1-13m-xbox-2.340/page-10

Well that sucks :(. How about a referral?

I can't refer anyone unless I've known them for a while otherwise I'll get shit canned.

Hint though...they ask you to fill out some short essay to join. If you stand out they'll bring you on board.

I registered and filled out the 50 word essay. Thanks for pointing out the website! Hopefully they approve the registration. Seems pretty cool from what I can see.

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Why does the tone of this new alt’s posts have the same tone to them as tryhardwenzen’s? 🤔

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#31 Sushiglutton
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If Sony comes third I expect pretty much nothing to happen. Maybe even less 🤷🏻‍♂️.

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@x_hedon said:
@john_connor said:
@x_hedon said:
@john_connor said:
@x_hedon said:

Can you link us to the thread in question at installbase?

It's fairly irrelevant if you're not an actual member though because you can't read the posts. Approval takes a while. Only the best are recruited.

https://www.installbaseforum.com/forums/threads/npd-november-2021-call-of-duty-1-battlefield-2-pokemon-3-forza-horizon-4-switch-1-in-units-and-revenue-update-2-nsw-1-13m-xbox-2.340/page-10

Well that sucks :(. How about a referral?

I can't refer anyone unless I've known them for a while otherwise I'll get shit canned.

Hint though...they ask you to fill out some short essay to join. If you stand out they'll bring you on board.

I registered and filled out the 50 word essay. Thanks for pointing out the website! Hopefully they approve the registration. Seems pretty cool from what I can see.

No prob. It's not nearly as big as Resetera, but that's because they're so selective.

It's by far the best gaming community if you want access to insider info on hardware and sales. All the insiders and devs are there as I mentioned and left the other communities.

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@Sushiglutton said:

If Sony comes third I expect pretty much nothing to happen. Maybe even less 🤷🏻‍♂️.

You can expect it to happen many more times this generation.

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@john_connor said:
@x_hedon said:
@john_connor said:
@x_hedon said:
@john_connor said:

It's fairly irrelevant if you're not an actual member though because you can't read the posts. Approval takes a while. Only the best are recruited.

https://www.installbaseforum.com/forums/threads/npd-november-2021-call-of-duty-1-battlefield-2-pokemon-3-forza-horizon-4-switch-1-in-units-and-revenue-update-2-nsw-1-13m-xbox-2.340/page-10

Well that sucks :(. How about a referral?

I can't refer anyone unless I've known them for a while otherwise I'll get shit canned.

Hint though...they ask you to fill out some short essay to join. If you stand out they'll bring you on board.

I registered and filled out the 50 word essay. Thanks for pointing out the website! Hopefully they approve the registration. Seems pretty cool from what I can see.

No prob. It's not nearly as big as Resetera, but that's because they're so selective.

It's by far the best gaming community if you want access to insider info on hardware and sales. All the insiders and devs are there as I mentioned and left the other communities.

As long as it doesn't have Grubb or Jez, it should be all good :)

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@Archangel3371 said:

Why does the tone of this new alt’s posts have the same tone to them as tryhardwenzen’s? 🤔

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@Pedro: Enquiring minds want to know. 😅

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@Pedro said:
@Archangel3371 said:

Why does the tone of this new alt’s posts have the same tone to them as tryhardwenzen’s? 🤔

People are beginning to see my massive success with clickbait thread titles and two awards won in a single year, and begin to be my copycats, which is incredibly infuriating, honestly. One thing he didn't knew is that i am the last person to give a flying crap about sales and if it wasn't from hearing it on SW, i wouldn't even know nor care about the amount of systems the ps5 sold or that Returnal did like shit at $70.

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#38 Pedro
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@hardwenzen: In other words, he is correct.😂

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@hardwenzen said:
@techhog89 said:
@hardwenzen said:

Wish they sent like two T-1000's to clap your ass.

... You ok?

And YOU are the one asking?😊What a silly goose

I mean that even for you that outburst seemed way too aggressive and angry.

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@techhog89 said:

I mean that even for you that outburst seemed way too aggressive and angry.

Apparently, he is playing two roles.😂

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@techhog89 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@techhog89 said:
@hardwenzen said:

Wish they sent like two T-1000's to clap your ass.

... You ok?

And YOU are the one asking?😊What a silly goose

I mean that even for you that outburst seemed way too aggressive and angry.

Me aggressive and angry? Currently, the only dev & publisher that i am aggressive and angry at is EA and DICE for destroying the Battlefield series, and that's because i care about the series. If what i said is aggressive to you, maybe you should crawl back to your safe space on Resetera😁I am sure you will find a ton of SJW's on copium that will agree about your Switch 2 dreams you're getting on daily basis. Silly goose.

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@hardwenzen said:

Me aggressive and angry? Currently, the only dev & publisher that i am aggressive and angry at is EA and DICE for destroying the Battlefield series, and that's because i care about the series. If what i said is aggressive to you, maybe you should crawl back to your safe space on Resetera😁I am sure you will find a ton of SJW's on copium that will agree about your Switch 2 dreams you're getting on daily basis. Silly goose.

Seems like he hit a nerve and you now need a safe space.🤣

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#43 hardwenzen
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@Pedro: Pedro still trying his best to trigger me, but when i see his name, all i can think of is that he overpaid a whole $500 on his pc. Be ashamed of yourself, Pedro. Be ashamed.

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@hardwenzen said:

@Pedro: Pedro still trying his best to trigger me, but when i see his name, all i can think of is that he overpaid a whole $500 on his pc. Be ashamed of yourself, Pedro. Be ashamed.

Triggering you is pretty easy. Let us not forget the time you lost your shit because I and others called out on your sexist comment. 😎

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#45  Edited By hardwenzen
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@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:

@Pedro: Pedro still trying his best to trigger me, but when i see his name, all i can think of is that he overpaid a whole $500 on his pc. Be ashamed of yourself, Pedro. Be ashamed.

Triggering you is pretty easy. Let us not forget the time you lost your shit because I and others called out on your sexist comment. 😎

You spend too much time on Twitter. Everything is offensive to you😎Too bad overspending $500 on a computer didn't offended you, tho.

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#46  Edited By VatususReturns
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Meh... this is probably the first generation where I'm on the "I can easily wait" mood. Nothing on the PS5 (or any other console for the matter) makes me think "I must have one right now". I still have a huge backloggery to play across PC, PS3, PS4 and Switch. Have plenty to play until I can find and aford a PS5. By then, the games I want to play will be cheap and so will the console. I dont have the urges to play the most recent games on the block. I can easily wait

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#47  Edited By deactivated-620299e29a26a
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I would first have to have an oddly blind dedication to a corporate conglomerate that tries to monetize everything from profile pictures to 20 year old games to even remotely feel devastated by said company's sales. When it comes to gaming, Loyalty's for dogs, and dogs are easily beaten into submission.

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#48 Pedro
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@hardwenzen said:

You spend too much time on Twitter. Everything is offensive to you😎Too bad overspending $500 on a computer didn't offended you, tho.

Look at you trying. 😂

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#49 hardwenzen
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@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:

You spend too much time on Twitter. Everything is offensive to you😎Too bad overspending $500 on a computer didn't offended you, tho.

Look at you trying. 😂

Trying? Succeeding 100%.🤭Pretty easily as well.

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I wouldn't be surprised if the PS5 wins December. As a person that was tasked to buy consoles for folks for Christmas, I can tell you there were TONS of PS5 drops across all retailers. And they all sold out. But the number of PS5 drops vs Xbox Series drops was incredibly in PlayStations favor. There were more PS5 drops this morning... The PS5 stock is obviously more plentiful than the Xbox stock.