how did SC4 score so high

this game is just total junk from online to a bunch of other aspects. It just feels like it took over where sc3 left off. Online is useless until they get the net code right. There is way too much lag for it to be playable. Only characters with long swords benefit and it just turns into a AA BB slashing match. This game should have never scored so high. Should have been in the 7s, maybe 6s.

DOA is a lot better than this junk.

yall agree that SC4's online lag is horrible, but likes DOA4 online better??!?!?!!!!

This topic is FULL of FAIL

I am guessing your playing on the 360 version because just about none of the problems you mentioned have accured on the PS3 version. Depending on the characters your right swords can have an advantage.. I have seen people though who have killed me without swords and I don't even get close to them. Taki and Cervatias or whatever has some awesome moves and they don't need the long weaspons to win if you know how to play with them.

Another thing the people I have fought in ranked games or should I say spanked me they are definitely not button smashers. Some of them pull off the craziest moves and I wander why I even bother moving the analog stick when I played them. Lag is no problem at all on PS3. The only time it lags is when the match ends which is strange...

this game is just total junk from online to a bunch of other aspects. It just feels like it took over where sc3 left off. Online is useless until they get the net code right. There is way too much lag for it to be playable. Only characters with long swords benefit and it just turns into a AA BB slashing match. This game should have never scored so high. Should have been in the 7s, maybe 6s.

DOA is a lot better than this junk.

SupraGT

6's? 7's? You're only making your judgement from online play. And this game actually requires skill instead of that button-masher DOA, where anyone can kick the crap out of you.

I am guessing your playing on the 360 version because just about none of the problems you mentioned have accured on the PS3 version. Depending on the characters your right swords can have an advantage.. I have seen people though who have killed me without swords and I don't even get close to them. Taki and Cervatias or whatever has some awesome moves and they don't need the long weaspons to win if you know how to play with them.

Another thing the people I have fought in ranked games or should I say spanked me they are definitely not button smashers. Some of them pull off the craziest moves and I wander why I even bother moving the analog stick when I played them. Lag is no problem at all on PS3. The only time it lags is when the match ends which is strange...

-Renegade

Stop being such a ****

I am guessing your playing on the 360 version because just about none of the problems you mentioned have accured on the PS3 version. Depending on the characters your right swords can have an advantage.. I have seen people though who have killed me without swords and I don't even get close to them. Taki and Cervatias or whatever has some awesome moves and they don't need the long weaspons to win if you know how to play with them.

Another thing the people I have fought in ranked games or should I say spanked me they are definitely not button smashers. Some of them pull off the craziest moves and I wander why I even bother moving the analog stick when I played them. Lag is no problem at all on PS3. The only time it lags is when the match ends which is strange...

-Renegade

I heard the lag was worse on PS3. Characters like talim have no chance of getting inside thier hit zones. 1 second lag kills the game. I can't guard in time neither GI. I have to throw in the input way before the animations come.

[QUOTE="SupraGT"]

this game is just total junk from online to a bunch of other aspects. It just feels like it took over where sc3 left off. Online is useless until they get the net code right. There is way too much lag for it to be playable. Only characters with long swords benefit and it just turns into a AA BB slashing match. This game should have never scored so high. Should have been in the 7s, maybe 6s.

DOA is a lot better than this junk.

lalangan

6's? 7's? You're only making your judgement from online play. And this game actually requires skill instead of that button-masher DOA, where anyone can kick the crap out of you.

You know I only played the Dreamcast version of this game very briefly and from that little time with the game I thought it was a button smasher BOY was I wrong. After playing this game online in the ranked mode I realized that button smashing won't get you very far.

I am guessing your playing on the 360 version because just about none of the problems you mentioned have accured on the PS3 version. Depending on the characters your right swords can have an advantage.. I have seen people though who have killed me without swords and I don't even get close to them. Taki and Cervatias or whatever has some awesome moves and they don't need the long weaspons to win if you know how to play with them.

Another thing the people I have fought in ranked games or should I say spanked me they are definitely not button smashers. Some of them pull off the craziest moves and I wander why I even bother moving the analog stick when I played them. Lag is no problem at all on PS3. The only time it lags is when the match ends which is strange...

-Renegade

I'm sorry butthe 360 version doesn't have that problem ether. I've been playing it online since release and had lag once.

Uh

Soul Calibur IV online is nothing but roses for me, perhaps you need more internets?

90% of the people I meet are good players who don't need to button mash. They also play all different characters with no star wars characters. Good online community, easy to get a game = ownage.
Toriko42

yeah, another thing is that the star war characters are pure gimmicks and shouldn't be allowed online. I was playing a yoda player for the first time and wth. Highs and some mids dont hit him, i can't grab him and a bunch of strings whiff.

This game is a POS

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]

I am guessing your playing on the 360 version because just about none of the problems you mentioned have accured on the PS3 version. Depending on the characters your right swords can have an advantage.. I have seen people though who have killed me without swords and I don't even get close to them. Taki and Cervatias or whatever has some awesome moves and they don't need the long weaspons to win if you know how to play with them.

Another thing the people I have fought in ranked games or should I say spanked me they are definitely not button smashers. Some of them pull off the craziest moves and I wander why I even bother moving the analog stick when I played them. Lag is no problem at all on PS3. The only time it lags is when the match ends which is strange...

SupraGT

I heard the lag was worse on PS3. Characters like talim have no chance of getting inside thier hit zones. 1 second lag kills the game. I can't guard in time neither GI. I have to throw in the input way before the animations come.

I am going to upload a video of the PS3 version running FLAWLASSY online. Check my blog in a couple of days.

I am guessing your playing on the 360 version because just about none of the problems you mentioned have accured on the PS3 version. Depending on the characters your right swords can have an advantage.. I have seen people though who have killed me without swords and I don't even get close to them. Taki and Cervatias or whatever has some awesome moves and they don't need the long weaspons to win if you know how to play with them.

Another thing the people I have fought in ranked games or should I say spanked me they are definitely not button smashers. Some of them pull off the craziest moves and I wander why I even bother moving the analog stick when I played them. Lag is no problem at all on PS3. The only time it lags is when the match ends which is strange...

-Renegade

[QUOTE="Toriko42"]Uh

Soul Calibur IV online is nothing but roses for me, perhaps you need more internets?

90% of the people I meet are good players who don't need to button mash. They also play all different characters with no star wars characters. Good online community, easy to get a game = ownage.
SupraGT

yeah, another thing is that the star war characters are pure gimmicks and shouldn't be allowed online. I was playing a yoda player for the first time and wth. Highs and some mids dont hit him, i can't grab him and a bunch of strings whiff.

This game is a POS

Who is ur main? I'm sure there are plenty of low attacks that you can do to take care of Yoda. Sounds like you just suck.

[QUOTE="SupraGT"]

[QUOTE="Toriko42"]Uh

Soul Calibur IV online is nothing but roses for me, perhaps you need more internets?

90% of the people I meet are good players who don't need to button mash. They also play all different characters with no star wars characters. Good online community, easy to get a game = ownage.
lalangan

yeah, another thing is that the star war characters are pure gimmicks and shouldn't be allowed online. I was playing a yoda player for the first time and wth. Highs and some mids dont hit him, i can't grab him and a bunch of strings whiff.

This game is a POS

Who is ur main? I'm sure there are plenty of low attacks that you can do to take care of Yoda. Sounds like you just suck.

[QUOTE="lalangan"][QUOTE="SupraGT"]

[QUOTE="Toriko42"]Uh

Soul Calibur IV online is nothing but roses for me, perhaps you need more internets?

90% of the people I meet are good players who don't need to button mash. They also play all different characters with no star wars characters. Good online community, easy to get a game = ownage.
Toriko42

yeah, another thing is that the star war characters are pure gimmicks and shouldn't be allowed online. I was playing a yoda player for the first time and wth. Highs and some mids dont hit him, i can't grab him and a bunch of strings whiff.

This game is a POS

Who is ur main? I'm sure there are plenty of low attacks that you can do to take care of Yoda. Sounds like you just suck.

but then again, he can still block low. He's broken. Well, I guess characters with long reach have an advantage such as using 66B with nightmare and what not

I am guessing your playing on the 360 version because just about none of the problems you mentioned have accured on the PS3 version. Depending on the characters your right swords can have an advantage.. I have seen people though who have killed me without swords and I don't even get close to them. Taki and Cervatias or whatever has some awesome moves and they don't need the long weaspons to win if you know how to play with them.

Another thing the people I have fought in ranked games or should I say spanked me they are definitely not button smashers. Some of them pull off the craziest moves and I wander why I even bother moving the analog stick when I played them. Lag is no problem at all on PS3. The only time it lags is when the match ends which is strange...

-Renegade

But there aren't any problems with the 360 version and- Oh its Renegade.

Never mind.

Most of fighters can be both "skilled" or mash button. Its how you play em and VS whom..

I play Tekken to much , when i play in Arcades Vs very nice skilled players i do other things than when im playing at home with my little 12 years old cousin. So my cousin , doesnt care to beat the game , learn moves , combos etc, just plain fun for him.. So it is teh SC4. You want ot beat the game and play vS Pros? Button S-mashing isnt enough. For your grandma or your little cousin is more than enough.

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]

I am guessing your playing on the 360 version because just about none of the problems you mentioned have accured on the PS3 version. Depending on the characters your right swords can have an advantage.. I have seen people though who have killed me without swords and I don't even get close to them. Taki and Cervatias or whatever has some awesome moves and they don't need the long weaspons to win if you know how to play with them.

Another thing the people I have fought in ranked games or should I say spanked me they are definitely not button smashers. Some of them pull off the craziest moves and I wander why I even bother moving the analog stick when I played them. Lag is no problem at all on PS3. The only time it lags is when the match ends which is strange...

SupraGT

I heard the lag was worse on PS3. Characters like talim have no chance of getting inside thier hit zones. 1 second lag kills the game. I can't guard in time neither GI. I have to throw in the input way before the animations come.

Dreamsvisions has been pretty pissed at this games online peformance over PSN to the point where he's said he wants to return the PS3 version and buy the 360 version. I'm assuming this game is having many isolated incidents. Dreams and CJ have said the online isn't even as good a Brawls which is um wow.

How can these guys not even be up to par with DOA4 yet hell even DOAU? I still like SC better then DOA though.

[QUOTE="SupraGT"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

I am guessing your playing on the 360 version because just about none of the problems you mentioned have accured on the PS3 version. Depending on the characters your right swords can have an advantage.. I have seen people though who have killed me without swords and I don't even get close to them. Taki and Cervatias or whatever has some awesome moves and they don't need the long weaspons to win if you know how to play with them.

Another thing the people I have fought in ranked games or should I say spanked me they are definitely not button smashers. Some of them pull off the craziest moves and I wander why I even bother moving the analog stick when I played them. Lag is no problem at all on PS3. The only time it lags is when the match ends which is strange...

Blackbond

I heard the lag was worse on PS3. Characters like talim have no chance of getting inside thier hit zones. 1 second lag kills the game. I can't guard in time neither GI. I have to throw in the input way before the animations come.

Dreamsvisions has been pretty pissed at this games online peformance over PSN to the point where he's said he wants to return the PS3 version and buy the 360 version. I'm assuming this game is having many isolated incidents. Dreams and CJ have said the online isn't even as good a Brawls which is um wow.

How can these guys not even be up to par with DOA4 yet hell even DOAU? I still like SC better then DOA though.

The lag isin't bad at all. It's like a small slowdown for a moment every 3-4 matches for me. I've heard the 360 version lags a bit, too.

Its not as bad as brawl, though. >_>

this game is just total junk from online to a bunch of other aspects. It just feels like it took over where sc3 left off. Online is useless until they get the net code right. There is way too much lag for it to be playable. Only characters with long swords benefit and it just turns into a AA BB slashing match. This game should have never scored so high. Should have been in the 7s, maybe 6s.

DOA is a lot better than this junk.

SupraGT

long swords eh? fine pick a long sword character, I'll use any short sword character. The moment i heard button mashing, I stopped reading. If you want a balanced character pick Mitsurugi.

Cassandra and Sophitia aren't too bad either. Taki and Talim are pretty good to if you know how to use them. I really don't think any character royally sucks in the game though. Darth is balanced if you can exploit his weaknesses. Every combo of his has an ending animation which pretty much opens him up for a can of ownage.

Just because you suck at the game, it doesnt mean the game is bad.

I have a 8MB connection and been playing with people from other countries and i've rarely seen lag so far.

I will admit that this game does have some balance issues with characters (excluding the obvious Star Wars characters). No one character is "overpowered" but some characters are significantly more useful than other characters; Kilik, Mitsurugi, Cassandra/Sophitia, Cervantes and Raphael usually destroy any opponent with ease while characters like Siegfried/Nightmare, Astaroth, Yun-Seong, Talim, Rock, Amy and Hilde are left in the dust. I know that most of this relies on the skill factor of the players being contested, but I've noticed that the combination of long range + fast movements (Kilik, Mitsurugi) is quite a deadly combination in most cases.

Lag can be noticable at times too, but that usually only occurs with me when I'm playing against a host with a lower-than-average connection. Playing with a host with 4-5 bars of signal usually fixes the problem.

I don't see how a game sharing the same netcode lags more on one version that another. Oh yes, they don't.

People saying one version lags more than the other needs one reality check and learn how the "internets" work. Both clients (the two fighters) have a syncronized delay, where the person with the higher ping will be the lead.

So let's say you connect to him with 60ms, but he connects to you with 200ms. You will be syncronized to the 200ms so you both have the exact same delay.

The problem comes when, don't know why yet, the game decides to call a 500ms (half a second delay) 4 bars. I hope they let us have a counter in ms, rather than the bars crap

The only extremely OP character I have seen is lizardman. It's just stun after stun and then starts crawling to make combos on floor.

The only extremely OP character I have seen is lizardman. It's just stun after stun and then starts crawling to make combos on floor.

blitzcloud

I don't have any problem with lizardman. He has some great attacks except he also has a small range as well. Characters like Seong-Mina can take him out with ease.

I have the 360 version and i dont get any lag at all. What are you talking about? :|Ninja-Hippo

Either that or you played few matches where people basically had open port dsl with a decent download/upload spee

I don't have any problem with lizardman. He has some great attacks except he also has a small range as well. Characters like Seong-Mina can take him out with ease.-Jiggles-

[QUOTE="SupraGT"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

I am guessing your playing on the 360 version because just about none of the problems you mentioned have accured on the PS3 version. Depending on the characters your right swords can have an advantage.. I have seen people though who have killed me without swords and I don't even get close to them. Taki and Cervatias or whatever has some awesome moves and they don't need the long weaspons to win if you know how to play with them.

Another thing the people I have fought in ranked games or should I say spanked me they are definitely not button smashers. Some of them pull off the craziest moves and I wander why I even bother moving the analog stick when I played them. Lag is no problem at all on PS3. The only time it lags is when the match ends which is strange...

Blackbond

I heard the lag was worse on PS3. Characters like talim have no chance of getting inside thier hit zones. 1 second lag kills the game. I can't guard in time neither GI. I have to throw in the input way before the animations come.

Dreamsvisions has been pretty pissed at this games online peformance over PSN to the point where he's said he wants to return the PS3 version and buy the 360 version. I'm assuming this game is having many isolated incidents. Dreams and CJ have said the online isn't even as good a Brawls which is um wow.

How can these guys not even be up to par with DOA4 yet hell even DOAU? I still like SC better then DOA though.

i seriously dont get whats up. normally im always one to experience some form of lag, havent experienced any in sc4 yet.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]I have the 360 version and i dont get any lag at all. What are you talking about? :|blitzcloud

Either that or you played few matches where people basically had open port dsl with a decent download/upload spee

I don't have any problem with lizardman. He has some great attacks except he also has a small range as well. Characters like Seong-Mina can take him out with ease.-Jiggles-

I have 16mb Sky Broadband. I've played for about four hours, in total, and have literally experienced no lag problems whatsoever. :|

Well, I just can't believe people are saying there's no lag, on fighter, where a simple 0,1 second (100 ping) can destroy your timing.

Something's wrong.

I have 16mb Sky Broadband. I've played for about four hours, in total, and have literally experienced no lag problems whatsoever. :|Ninja-Hippo

[quote="-Jiggles-"]I don't have any problem with lizardman. He has some great attacks except he also has a small range as well. Characters like Seong-Mina can take him out with ease.blitzcloud

How was it so bad?

[QUOTE="blitzcloud"]

[quote="-Jiggles-"]I don't have any problem with lizardman. He has some great attacks except he also has a small range as well. Characters like Seong-Mina can take him out with ease.-Jiggles-

How was it so bad?

it's really messed up.

[QUOTE="-Jiggles-"][QUOTE="blitzcloud"]

[quote="-Jiggles-"]I don't have any problem with lizardman. He has some great attacks except he also has a small range as well. Characters like Seong-Mina can take him out with ease.blitzcloud

How was it so bad?

it's really messed up.

Heh, I guess I gotta try that out sometime.

FIGHTERS CAN NOT BE PLAYED ONLINE!!

There is too much lag in every fighter when fighting online.

FIGHTERS CAN NOT BE PLAYED ONLINE!!

There is too much lag in every fighter when fighting online.

AntiType

But I play King of fighters on Kaillera without a problem, except the occasional desync due to the fact the coding is outside the game.

It just need dedicated server and ping showing, not bars. Hell, I was playing with someone that had 4 bars, and it had a freaking 3 secs delay (not joking at all). He won due to the following logic Maxi buttonmashing>Kilik with 3 seconds delay.

Why wouldn't it score high? What else is competing with it? The days of fighting game dominance are over. There are a handful of franchises still making games. I agree SCIV has some serious shortcomings, most notably in the balance issues with the new characters (the CPU AI as The Apprentice? GTFO) and minor lag in the online resulting in most matches being Kilik/Nightmare/Siegfried poking eachother with high attacks.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: these games are meant to be played head to head with a room full of buddies and some intoxicating substances. If you were counting on playing a lot against the CPU or online, you may be disappointed, but the game is worth the price of admission when you rock your best friends face with Cervantes and laugh over his anguished screams.

Please don't compare it to DOA though. DOA had some wicked features, but it's no SC, nor is it a Tekken.