How do graphics make a game more fun?

Even last gen had 720p and 1080p games, all the lines are smooth, games aren't pixelated like pac-man and pong anymore. So tell me how do even better graphics which are barely noticeable at this point no matter how many p's a resolution is....how does that make a game more fun? Because actual gameplay mechanics haven't changed much if at all since the ps2 era.

At that point,it's not about fun,it's about the immersion you get from it.

playing at 144 fps is incredible. everything feels unbelievably responsive, unbelievably smooth.

i wouldn't say its more fun but i'd say the fun which is already there feels enhanced.

I just like looking at the pictures

When you say that all the lines are smooth, I'm assuming that you're meaning there wasn't any jaggies? If so then you must really be blind, lots of games last gen had very noticeable jaggies.

To answer your question, the graphics don't change how fun the game is, but it's always nice to play a good looking game.

It's fun to count pixels. Screw playing the game.

Of course man, they're the same. Obviously.

More colour.

I'll be honest: games stopped being legitimately fun a few years ago for me. Now the only real factor I take in to play is immersion, which is why I really enjoy high fidelity open world games. Graphics are probably the most important aspect regarding immersion, so it certainly enhances my enjoyment of the game.

But graphics are tied in with gameplay, sometimes they are dependent on each other, the gameplay serves the presentation and the presentation serves the gameplay.

200FPS will feel no different on a 60Hz panel. The panel will only refresh 60 times a second so 60FPS is the max you can really feel.

I thought you were joking! :P

60HZ monitors can only display up to 60 fps, same goes with 144HZ, they can display up to 144 fps. In other words, yes you need a 144HZ monitor for it to make a difference.

Great visuals bring an overall better experience. Problem with some people here is that they care too much about technical graphical aspects of games that most of them won't even notice.

All I need from visuals is that they please me (sorry couldn't find a better word :P) and games don't need to run at 1080p (by ex) to do so.

personally only play games that support 4k, anything less is just too blurry for me

"Gameplay mechanics haven't changed much since the PS2 era."

Either you're a troll or you live under a rock.

As said, it's the immersion, which definitely counts towards the fun of a game. I want the mutants in Metro to look ferocious and scary, not fake. Take Prototype 2, its textures are really bad, it bothers me every time I notice it.

Some get more enjoyment out of it because it helps suck them in. It doesn't benefit me much at all anymore because mainly just care about gameplay mechanics and level design.

@Wasdie: He is a troll that lives under a rock.

other people have answered already, but *godverkut* i like talking to you, so prepare to receive a bunch of information for a second time:

basically, the 60 hz monitor will show 60 refreshes a second - max. if the gpu's at 120, you'll only see 60.

on a 144 Hz monitor you can see up to 144 refreshes a second. so if the gpu's at 60, you see 60. 120, you see 120.

but 200, you see 144. 150, you see 144.

another good thing about this monitor is (anecdotally i notice) less tearing at 'funny' frame rates, like 45 fps. but basically to answer your question directly 144 fps on a 60 hz monitor would likely "feel" like 60 hz.

Great game = Great game

Great game + Better Graphics = Better immersion = Great Game+

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well I disagree. I can easily notice graphical differences. As for do they make a game better the answer to that is yes. But graphics are only the icing on the cake. If the cake is bad the icing wont fix it. But things like framerate, resolution so you can see detail better, and more immersive effects do make a game better.

They don't. Planescape Torement is better than Killzones, Last Of Us, Uncharted e.t.c.... Substance wins. Sadly, being a niche game, console gamers have never experienced substance before.

An incredibly sad tale.

OP trying to hide ps4's shortcomings after he hyped gfx for 2 years.

Graphics are very subjective. Some games benefit from low res cartoonish textures while other games just look rubbish.

Not sure if serious.

They don't make it more fun but bad graphics can make it less fun. If the performance is inefficient or you're not fully immersed, how do you enjoy it completely?

*cough* Xbone

Does it have GSync or whatchamacallit?

@parkurtommo: nah i don't have gsync on this one. it was the cheapest 144 hz monitor i could get. 350 NZD. for comparison over here PS4's are (now) $550 NZD.

i have seen a 1440p, 144 hz, gsync monitor. that'd be absolutely magic.

graphics dont matter to people who cant have them

it doesn't period.

this is a video game and it only consists of UI's and right now its player count is at 17k, regularly peaking at 60k everyday. No graphics king will have this many players ever.

I need AT LEAST one thousand p's in all my games. BARE MIN GUISE

@strangeisland said:

it doesn't period.

this is a video game and it only consists of UI's and right now its player count is at 17k, regularly peaking at 60k everyday. No graphics king will have this many players ever.

You're wrong. Period.

Ad populum is a great way to defend your opinion! Good job! /s

Look man, that's really the way it should be :S I play all my games at 1080p on a 3 year old card. It's less powerful than the cards in the PS4 (or maybe on par at most). It doesn't matter if I get unplayable framerates, if that happens I'll lower the settings, but never the resolution.

I think console gamers really don't understand the difference it makes to have 1080p over 720 or anything in between. Let alone 1440p or 4k.

This is said by the same person that claimed the PS4 ppl go into the PC threads and derail/troll it.

Fucking pathetic.

Anyway...it's about immerision. It also depends on the game. Games that are all serious and trying to be realistic need to have good graphics for me to get immersed.

Games like Mario Kart don't need hyper ultra shadow and pixel intense graphics, imo.

Either way....it's good to have nice graphics and more so aesthetics.

at least its not 30 fps

@parkurtommo: I was just making a joke, dude. I play all my games at 1080p too. My TV is 1080p, so I wouldnt want my PC games being all blurry. And my card is around the same age. Performs well.

@strangeisland said:

it doesn't period.

this is a video game and it only consists of UI's and right now its player count is at 17k, regularly peaking at 60k everyday. No graphics king will have this many players ever.

Work still went into the UI to make it aesthetically pleasing. Aesthetic pleasure is extremely important in video games, even in UI.

I have a GTX 680 and I can't run Crysis, Crysis 2, or Farcry 3 at 1080p without sacrificing a decent fps count.

Hmmmm....

@mr_huggles_dog: I max out Far Cry 3 on my GTX570 at around 30 fps. I dunno whats acceptable to you, but that card should definitely outperform mine.

@parkurtommo:

Because Shadow Fall at 1k players is at the highest tier of fun and replayability?

Sorry i thought the more people play something the fun more it is /sarcasm

Immersion is what you make of it. It doesn't have anything to do with graphics. I wasn't any less immersed in games like WOW or Half-Life when they came out and neither were considered graphics kings of there time. Half life was decent but I wouldn't have been any less immersed if the graphics were anything less.

**** new graphics. Nothing special about em. 99% of the time they are dull and lifeless. You want visuals go play some 80s arcade games or get a vectrex. Those games are feasts for the eyes.

You need a seriously powerful card to get 144 fps on anything remotely good looking. I guess it's kind of like how 4k is borderline impractical witht he current gpus.

In a few years, it might be easier.

Graphics don't make a game more fun.

There was a very good discussion about this on system11 a while back (boldfaced part). Pretty much the height of the digital test of the player has been reached, and was reached in that era - especially on PS2.

EDIT: I still play a lot of PS2 era games ranging from arcades to console games. Think about it: why are there so many HD remakes (particularly from this era)?