How do people feel about blu-ray now that MGS uses all 50 gigs?

Depends. MGS4 uses uncompressed audio which is good. But will many games use uncompressed audio in the near future? I doubt that. Most of PS3 games currently just make use of the extra space to add extra languages. Nice feature, but really, it's like having extra languages on movie dvds, most people will probably play it in one language only.

Depends. MGS4 uses uncompressed audio which is good. But will many games use uncompressed audio in the near future? I doubt that. Most of PS3 games currently just make use of the extra space to add extra languages. Nice feature, but really, it's like having extra languages on movie dvds, most people will probably play it in one language only.

taker42

I haven't changed my opinion one bit. If they couldn't get MGS4 to fit in 50gb like Kojima claims, they're doing something seriously wrong.

Yes, one day Blu-ray will be an asset to gaming. Probably with the next generation of consoles, since the PS3's other hardware limitations will bottleneck any serious gaming benefit Blu-ray could provide.

For now, though, I can do without it. I don't like that Sony was more concerned about winning a movie format war with the PS3 than gaming, and I can live with upscaled DVD or digital downloads over the idea of paying $30-40 for a movie that doesn't look nearly good enough to double (or more) the standard DVD price. And with HD DVD out of the picture I see no reason for them to lower movie prices any time soon.

I haven't changed my opinion one bit. If they couldn't get MGS4 to fit in 50gb like Kojima claims, they're doing something seriously wrong.

Corvin

Because they made the full game, and made the audio 7 channel surround sound? What is your problem? There is a full game on that disk, there just wasn't room for Japanese language tracks. The audio component of this game is a unique asset. It will be exetremely immersive.

Good sound systems are to expensive? So were HDTVs. Are high-resolution graphics just a gimmick? Is surround sound?

either or that......this is guna be one hell of a awesome game!djxaquaxblue

file size does not a great game make. :|

I personally can't wait to hear about how NONE of the files were compressed seeing how slow the PS3's bluray drive is and how the lack of dedicated RAM really hurts the PS3's ability to uncompress data. BluRay is ONLY needed on the PS3 and MGS4 could easily be done on 2 (if not 1) DVD for the 360. Compression is a word NOT USED with the PS3 because it's the ONE thing that it has serious problems with. The 360 on the other hand can run circles around the PS3 night and day in that department. A HiRes texture file on a PS3 game is 4-10 larger then one comrpessed for a game on the 360 and it's really a pity that most people don't realize just how big of a beast the 360 is with compression rates.

BTW...

MGS4 = 1st multi-disc PS3 game this gen. The PS3 got one faster then it took the 360. :lol:

Don't really care about MGS4.

But I'm quite optimistic about Blu-ray movies and future PS3 games :D

I'm starting to wonder how bad the load times are going to be and how big the install before startup is going to be to be perfectly honest. Blu-ray has shocking speeds as it (as seen by heavenly sword) and the fact metal gear solid isn't padded with multiple files to increase load times makes me think kojima thinks we will sit through 5minute load times for his games or install 10gb to our hard drives.Zenkuso

Yeah because every ps3 game has 5 min load times and forced installs......

Oh wait no they don't. Try again

I love how lems like to think that kojima is terrible all of a sudden because this game isnt coming to the 360. He knows what he's doing hes responsible for a franchise that spans 20 years and countless critical and commercial acclaim is just all of a sudden not know how to dev and direct a game.....

Ok guys whatever you say...

[QUOTE="Zenkuso"]I'm starting to wonder how bad the load times are going to be and how big the install before startup is going to be to be perfectly honest. Blu-ray has shocking speeds as it (as seen by heavenly sword) and the fact metal gear solid isn't padded with multiple files to increase load times makes me think kojima thinks we will sit through 5minute load times for his games or install 10gb to our hard drives.XturnalS

Yeah because every ps3 game has 5 min load times and forced installs......

Oh wait no they don't. Try again

I love how lems like to think that kojima is terrible all of a sudden because this game isnt coming to the 360. He knows what he's doing hes responsible for a franchise that spans 20 years and countless critical and commercial acclaim is just all of a sudden not know how to dev and direct a game.....

Ok guys whatever you say...

No, I am pissed at his aragance. He stated that it better sell 1,000,000 copies the first day or else... WELL FREAKING RELEASE IT ON THE 360 AND MAYBE IT WILL!

I will be buying this on the PS3 though.

The disk space is probably used up by the uncompressed audio, and re copies of files to reduce loading.

[QUOTE="XturnalS"]

[QUOTE="Zenkuso"]I'm starting to wonder how bad the load times are going to be and how big the install before startup is going to be to be perfectly honest. Blu-ray has shocking speeds as it (as seen by heavenly sword) and the fact metal gear solid isn't padded with multiple files to increase load times makes me think kojima thinks we will sit through 5minute load times for his games or install 10gb to our hard drives.Relys

Yeah because every ps3 game has 5 min load times and forced installs......

Oh wait no they don't. Try again

I love how lems like to think that kojima is terrible all of a sudden because this game isnt coming to the 360. He knows what he's doing hes responsible for a franchise that spans 20 years and countless critical and commercial acclaim is just all of a sudden not know how to dev and direct a game.....

Ok guys whatever you say...

No, I am pissed at his aragance. He stated that it better sell 1,000,000 copies the first day or else... WELL FREAKING RELEASE IT ON THE 360 AND MAYBE IT WILL!

I will be buying this on the PS3 though.

The disk space is probably used up by the uncompressed audio, and re copies of files to reduce loading.

Kojima never said that. It was a misquote from Ryan Payton.

*slams head on desk* People...don't do this to me.

Do any of you ACTUALLY believe that a game, released in a time where nearly ALL games can still fit on a DVD9 disc (compression needed in some cases), is going fill up, not 20 gigs, but over FIFTY PLUS gigs of data, with no strings attached? Does this not seem the TINIEST bit suspicious?

[QUOTE="Zenkuso"]I'm starting to wonder how bad the load times are going to be and how big the install before startup is going to be to be perfectly honest. Blu-ray has shocking speeds as it (as seen by heavenly sword) and the fact metal gear solid isn't padded with multiple files to increase load times makes me think kojima thinks we will sit through 5minute load times for his games or install 10gb to our hard drives.XturnalS

Yeah because every ps3 game has 5 min load times and forced installs......

Oh wait no they don't. Try again

I love how lems like to think that kojima is terrible all of a sudden because this game isnt coming to the 360. He knows what he's doing hes responsible for a franchise that spans 20 years and countless critical and commercial acclaim is just all of a sudden not know how to dev and direct a game.....

Ok guys whatever you say...

I'm a lemming? LMAO :)

I have a playstation 3 mate and the why the majority of big titles are heading on the PS3 most of them will have installs if not all of them. And a 5 minute load time isn't that over the top when you consider heavenly sword takes 2 minutes and isn't anywhere near the size of MGS4 and uses duplicate data to speed up the loads as well.

I have nothing against kojima either, I've meet the man at twice now at game expo's and he's an awesome person to talk to specially if your a movie nut and kojima is a perfectionist by the way ;)

I know his game won't have 5 minute load times or 10GB install but this is a speculation thread, not a this will be reality thread.

So sit back and don't be so anal.

[QUOTE="XturnalS"]

[QUOTE="Zenkuso"]I'm starting to wonder how bad the load times are going to be and how big the install before startup is going to be to be perfectly honest. Blu-ray has shocking speeds as it (as seen by heavenly sword) and the fact metal gear solid isn't padded with multiple files to increase load times makes me think kojima thinks we will sit through 5minute load times for his games or install 10gb to our hard drives.Relys

Yeah because every ps3 game has 5 min load times and forced installs......

Oh wait no they don't. Try again

I love how lems like to think that kojima is terrible all of a sudden because this game isnt coming to the 360. He knows what he's doing hes responsible for a franchise that spans 20 years and countless critical and commercial acclaim is just all of a sudden not know how to dev and direct a game.....

Ok guys whatever you say...

No, I am pissed at his aragance. He stated that it better sell 1,000,000 copies the first day or else... WELL FREAKING RELEASE IT ON THE 360 AND MAYBE IT WILL!

I will be buying this on the PS3 though.

The disk space is probably used up by the uncompressed audio, and re copies of files to reduce loading.

Well if you are pissed maybe you should be pissed off about ignorance because that statement has been proven to be misquoted that Hideo and Ryan have clarified numerous times.

[QUOTE="XturnalS"]

[QUOTE="Zenkuso"]I'm starting to wonder how bad the load times are going to be and how big the install before startup is going to be to be perfectly honest. Blu-ray has shocking speeds as it (as seen by heavenly sword) and the fact metal gear solid isn't padded with multiple files to increase load times makes me think kojima thinks we will sit through 5minute load times for his games or install 10gb to our hard drives.Zenkuso

Yeah because every ps3 game has 5 min load times and forced installs......

Oh wait no they don't. Try again

I love how lems like to think that kojima is terrible all of a sudden because this game isnt coming to the 360. He knows what he's doing hes responsible for a franchise that spans 20 years and countless critical and commercial acclaim is just all of a sudden not know how to dev and direct a game.....

Ok guys whatever you say...

I'm a lemming? LMAO :)

I have a playstation 3 mate and the why the majority of big titles are heading on the PS3 most of them will have installs if not all of them. And a 5 minute load time isn't that over the top when you consider heavenly sword takes 2 minutes and isn't anywhere near the size of MGS4 and uses duplicate data to speed up the loads as well.

I have nothing against kojima either, I've meet the man at twice now at game expo's and he's an awesome person to talk to specially if your a movie nut and kojima is a perfectionist by the way ;)

I know his game won't have 5 minute load times or 10GB install but this is a speculation thread, not a this will be reality thread.

So sit back and don't be so anal.

Indifferent ?

Well, unless the game is 50x bigger than MGS3, it makes no difference to me

I hope the install will not be bigger than 40GB !!!!