How does PSP selling 70 million units considered a failure?

i know it didnt sell as much as the ds, but when i had my psp it was my most played console, over my 360 ps3 and wii. i played it everywhere i went and it had some awesome titles. i think people are too hard on it. 70 million sales is ALOT and a success in my book.

In the west it didn't do that great. And most of its library is JRPGS/Console Ports.

i know it didnt sell as much as the ds, but when i had my psp it was my most played console, over my 360 ps3 and wii. i played it everywhere i went and it had some awesome titles. i think people are too hard on it. 70 million sales is ALOT and a success in my book.

right4dead

How can that be a failure? I wonder who was smoking something when they said that. xD

because of the lackluster software

pre-release hype, promise and destruction of a company is what makes people say its a failure.

Sales and games wise its not.

yeah i would say if it didn't live up to its expectations its because of the not so great library. i wouldn't call it a failure though. its okay for a handheld.

Because the PS3 is a failure because PS2 outsold it. And 360 is a success because it outsold the xbox. The psp is a success because it is PlayStations first handheld. ... wait you said it's not, because people say it isn't a success because the DS outsold it? Whoa Whoa Whoa! People can't cross platform compare! If so then The 360 is a failure because it didn't outsell the PS2, Wii is a failure because it didn't outsell the PS2, every other console is a failure because it didn't outsell the PS2. Look at how people miss use information. tsk tsk tsk.

I don't know why people bash the PSP library. I understand it's sales are behind, but the library looks good from someone that takes look from afar at both systems. It looks to me like PSP has more "quality" games than DS. I don't know about quantity. Both have some console ports (PSP from PS1 and PS2, DS likes to do N64 games).

I've "almost" bought myself a PSP a number of times. But in the end I just can't bring myself to get a portable. Maybe 3DS or PSP2 will get me to finally do it. The only portable I ever had was the original game boy.

In the west it didn't do that great. And most of its library is JRPGS/Console Ports.

davidkamayor

No, the PSP is not a failier compared to nintendos handhelds, segas handhelds were... even though the sega nomad and gamegear were good consoles they could not compeat. They flopped massivly compared to the gameboy but PSP put up a decent fight.

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In the west it didn't do that great. And most of its library is JRPGS/Console Ports.

Ragnarok1051

Well SW is a place of double standards.

It's not a failure. With numbers like that you didn't fail. It seems the market had room for a second handheld.

It didn't "beat" the Nintendo handheld. Only Nintendo fanboys say the PSP "failed" because they realized the Sony handheld actually took a chunk of market share from Nintendo.

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In the west it didn't do that great. And most of its library is JRPGS/Console Ports.

davidkamayor

Well SW is a place of double standards.

Its really not though... The difference between the 3DS's console ports and the PSP's consoles ports, is that the 3DS's will be IMPROVEMENTS of the originals with added features, better graphics and in 3D etc. Where as the psp had downgraded ports of mostly shooters that controled terribly because of only one analog stick and much uglier graphics. Big difference

How much did its competition sell?

1. it is considered a success but it was not the nintendo killer everyone was expecting

2. it sold a lot of hardware but not as much software

3. it sold 60 m not 70 m

When Sony was releasing the PSP, they said it would beat DS and be called the new king of the handheld market. But they were wrong so it failed to overtake the DS. It not a failure by sale wise though

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Its really not though... The difference between the 3DS's console ports and the PSP's consoles ports, is that the 3DS's will be IMPROVEMENTS of the originals with added features, better graphics and in 3D etc. Where as the psp had downgraded ports of mostly shooters that controled terribly because of only one analog stick and much uglier graphics. Big difference

Slashkice

You clearly have no idea of what you're talking about.

then please.. Explain why I am wrong exactly... PSP got downgraded PS2 ports.. check.. 3DS is getting upgraded ports of n64 games and a ps2 game.. check... Oh yeah I am soo full of it

People like to believe if Sony doesn't lead sales in a market, that they are failures.ttobba07

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[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

Its really not though... The difference between the 3DS's console ports and the PSP's consoles ports, is that the 3DS's will be IMPROVEMENTS of the originals with added features, better graphics and in 3D etc. Where as the psp had downgraded ports of mostly shooters that controled terribly because of only one analog stick and much uglier graphics. Big difference

VendettaRed07

You clearly have no idea of what you're talking about.

then please.. Explain why I am wrong exactly... PSP got downgraded PS2 ports.. check.. 3DS is getting upgraded ports of n64 games and a ps2 game.. check... Oh yeah I am soo full of it

Street fighter 4 and Resident evil do not look better than their console counterparts.

its only a failure with fanboys.sales aside it actually has an excellent library of games

[QUOTE="davidkamayor"]

In the west it didn't do that great. And most of its library is JRPGS/Console Ports.

Ragnarok1051

Because the PS3 is a failure because PS2 outsold it. And 360 is a success because it outsold the xbox. The psp is a success because it is PlayStations first handheld. ... wait you said it's not, because people say it isn't a success because the DS outsold it? Whoa Whoa Whoa! People can't cross platform compare! If so then The 360 is a failure because it didn't outsell the PS2, Wii is a failure because it didn't outsell the PS2, every other console is a failure because it didn't outsell the PS2. Look at how people miss use information. tsk tsk tsk.

LOXO7

It failed to live up to the hype people gave it, put Sony in the red even with the abundant piracy just as much as Nintendo, and it ditched its own priority format for movies and stuff. In that regards its a failure without competing with the DS.

It is a success compared to the other companies that lost to Nintendo. :)

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[QUOTE="Slashkice"]

You clearly have no idea of what you're talking about.

Jolt_counter119

then please.. Explain why I am wrong exactly... PSP got downgraded PS2 ports.. check.. 3DS is getting upgraded ports of n64 games and a ps2 game.. check... Oh yeah I am soo full of it

Street fighter 4 and Resident evil do not look better than their console counterparts.

Resident evil isnt a port :I ... And street fighter 4 is going to have additional features like the vs. tag mode, and be in 3D.. I was mainly talking about Ocarina, Starfox, and MGS3 which look like they are big improvements over the original so yeah

most of its library is JRPGS/Console Ports.

davidkamayor

[QUOTE="Slashkice"]

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

Its really not though... The difference between the 3DS's console ports and the PSP's consoles ports, is that the 3DS's will be IMPROVEMENTS of the originals with added features, better graphics and in 3D etc. Where as the psp had downgraded ports of mostly shooters that controled terribly because of only one analog stick and much uglier graphics. Big difference

VendettaRed07

You clearly have no idea of what you're talking about.

then please.. Explain why I am wrong exactly... PSP got downgraded PS2 ports.. check.. 3DS is getting upgraded ports of n64 games and a ps2 game.. check... Oh yeah I am soo full of it

In the west it didn't do that great. And most of its library is JRPGS/Console Ports.

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

[QUOTE="Slashkice"]

You clearly have no idea of what you're talking about.

Ragnarok1051

then please.. Explain why I am wrong exactly... PSP got downgraded PS2 ports.. check.. 3DS is getting upgraded ports of n64 games and a ps2 game.. check... Oh yeah I am soo full of it

It hasnt sold 70 million, at last count, it stood at 62 million. However, with that said, it still stands as one of the highest selling systems of all time. It is not a failure in absolutes, but relative to the DS, its competitor, in bith, the sales, and the quality and quantity of the games it received, as well as relative to what it was expected to do, the PSP failed.charizard1605

It is an opinion that the games on DS are better quality. IMO PSP has better games but DS has a larger variety.

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

then please.. Explain why I am wrong exactly... PSP got downgraded PS2 ports.. check.. 3DS is getting upgraded ports of n64 games and a ps2 game.. check... Oh yeah I am soo full of it

Slashkice

It might help if you actually look at the 'ports' the PSP received. They usually receive new content and touched up graphics, among other additions. Saying they're all shooters just shows you know little of the PSP's library.

saying mostly =/= all. A large portion of them were shooters. And for every one ps2 to psp port that was actually in any way better there was like 5 that were huge downgrades

i know it didnt sell as much as the ds, but when i had my psp it was my most played console, over my 360 ps3 and wii. i played it everywhere i went and it had some awesome titles. i think people are too hard on it. 70 million sales is ALOT and a success in my book.

right4dead

I don't think it's a failure but it did not live up to the hype, at least in the West. In Japan it's arguably one of the best systems out this gen. However, while the PSP did take some marketshare from Nintendo, Nintendo sells even more then they have before.

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saying mostly =/= all. A large portion of them were shooters. And for every one ps2 to psp port that was actually in any way better there was like 5 that were huge downgrades

Slashkice

I edited before you posted so ha! But seriously, what 'large portion' are you referring to? The PSP didn't have too many shooters period, let alone ports.

Well Ghost Recon, Tom Clancy rainbow 6 vegas, medal of honour, Starwars Battlefront, and a few others around the early launch window. I know later it got some better ports like P3P and so on but because it got so many downgraded ports so early it kind of got that stigma so even when there were some good ports I didnt really even bother checking them out because I just assumed they would be worse

When you have a two horse race, you end up with one winner and one loser. Did the PSP do better then any other nonNintendo portable? Yes, but the DS still won the race pretty handily.

Honestly, the PSP library is what lost the race for Sony. Sure there are great games out there (I own a lot of them), but how many months did we look at release schedules with no PSP titles of note.

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[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

then please.. Explain why I am wrong exactly... PSP got downgraded PS2 ports.. check.. 3DS is getting upgraded ports of n64 games and a ps2 game.. check... Oh yeah I am soo full of it

VendettaRed07

Street fighter 4 and Resident evil do not look better than their console counterparts.

Resident evil isnt a port :I ... And street fighter 4 is going to have additional features like the vs. tag mode, and be in 3D.. I was mainly talking about Ocarina, Starfox, and MGS3 which look like they are big improvements over the original so yeah

Most of psp's games aren't ports either, and you cant just pick and choose games to support your argument. The 3DS is pretty much doing what the psp did which is put games from consoles it cant handle like ps3 and the 360, how psp put games from ps2.

The DS, a totally new brand, beat out the PlayStation Portable, a handheld carrying the name of the famous PlayStation franchise.

Well everyone hyped the PSP to beat the DS and to dethrone Nintendo in the portable market. It failed, there you go.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]It hasnt sold 70 million, at last count, it stood at 62 million. However, with that said, it still stands as one of the highest selling systems of all time. It is not a failure in absolutes, but relative to the DS, its competitor, in bith, the sales, and the quality and quantity of the games it received, as well as relative to what it was expected to do, the PSP failed.Blazerdt47

It is an opinion that the games on DS are better quality. IMO PSP has better games but DS has a larger variety.