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#1 Sephiroth485074
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Okay a while back another user put a topic about Uncharted 2 beating Crysis's graphics but as most would think the responses said that it wasn't. So I want to know, how much farther do you think we are from getting Crysis graphics on the PS3 since Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 did not utilize the full power of the PS3? To me I think were just about their just need to push a little more and you got Crysis's graphics. Please do not flame and put stupid fanboy responses. i want your honest opinion and please keep open mind about in this discussion.

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#2 -Tretiak
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You tell me.

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#3 SolidTy
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It's not going to happen, the PC is upgradable, every year it moves further away from the PS3's aging architecture.

Sorry.

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#4 Sephiroth485074
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no i meanUncharted 2vs Crysis. how far do we have to go to get crysis graphics on the PS3. I know the PC is upgradable and its graphics will just get betterbut i only mean to compare the PS3 graphics so far to Crysis.

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#5 bunchofpixels
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the cryengine is being ported to consoles so I guess we will see how well it compares to the PC version.

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#6 ToScA-
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Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 did not utilize the full power of the PS3?Sephiroth485074
Hm. Did you take into account that Crysis is a 2007 game and that PC hardware is hardly constant? We'll probably see a PC game that outshines Crysis before a PS3 game does just that, if ever. :P

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#7 AnnoyedDragon
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So I want to know, how much farther do you think we are from getting Crysis graphics on the PS3 since Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 did not utilize the full power of the PS3? To me I think were just about their just need to push a little more and you got Crysis's graphics.

Sephiroth485074

Just because console hardware is fixed and much easier to utilize; doesn't mean it is an infinite well of performance you can just keep tapping a little more from...

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#8 nick5800
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4 $500.00 video cards will never be topped by a $200.00 console. PC will always win.

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#9 funsohng
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You tell me.-Tretiak
my crysis looks better than that
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#10 -clippa-
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The ps3 was already a year old when crysis came out. Crysis was a forward thinking, technologically progressive game, the kind of game that can't be made for consoles.
It's like asking "when will the hurdle catch up with the hurdelist". The answer is "never".

Do you have fun playing games on your ps3? That's all that matters.

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#11 blackace
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It's not going to happen, the PC is upgradable, every year it moves further away from the PS3's aging architecture.

Sorry.

SolidTy

Yup.. completely agree, which is why you can't compare the PC with the game consoles. The PC can be upgraded and the game console can't.

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#12 Major_Reeves
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The ps3 was already a year old when crysis came out. Crysis was a forward thinking, technologically progressive game, the kind of game that can't be made for consoles.
It's like asking "when will the hurdle catch up with the hurdelist". The answer is "never".

Do you have fun playing games on your ps3? That's all that matters.

-clippa-

Not even just that, the ps3 could be outperformed by a 7800 gt and it's PPE is as powerful as a single core 1,8ghz ppc g5.

The cell may be a powerhouse, but not the ps3's cell, I'm referring to the cell i8, used on the ibm roadrunner.

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#13 blackace
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4 $500.00 video cards will never be topped by a $200.00 console. PC will always win.

nick5800
In the graphics, speed and performance categories, yes. No question about it. The current PC's power hasn't even been close to tapped, where has the PS3 was at about 90% with Uncharted 2.
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#14 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

It's not going to happen, the PC is upgradable, every year it moves further away from the PS3's aging architecture.

Sorry.

blackace

Yup.. complete agree, which is why you can't compare the PC with the game consoles. The PC can be upgraded and the game console can't.

:)

Tis the facts of life. Poor console don't stand a chance. :(

:)

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Also, I answered your Demon's Souls Query. :P

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#15 AnnoyedDragon
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Think about it in this sense, the PS3 RSX has 256mb of Vram were as one of my 8800 GTs have 512mb Vram.

Which one can hold the most information? Clearly the 512mb on the 8800 GT, it is simply more and you cannot really argue with that. Now Crysis is designed to take advantage of GPUs with 512mb or even more Vram, how then could RSX meet that quality? 256mb can only ever hold 256mb, you can change what's in there but not put more than 256mb worth of information in there.

Apply this idea to every other aspect of the PS3's hardware, you cannot make it perform higher than its maximum capability; no matter how hard you work on it.

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#16 successful19
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ummmmmmmmm,ps3 already passed pc......by a long shot

pc VV

ps3VVV

pc have some catching up to do lol

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#17 ktrotter11
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You tell me.

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dat screen is pretty wack

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#18 FunkyHeadHunter
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[QUOTE="-Tretiak"]You tell me.funsohng
my crysis looks better than that

Cant tell you how many threads I have read with people claiming the same thing.lol...no really dude..it looks better on my rig TRUE STORY I PROMISS..

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#19 vaderhater
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Crysis 2 will be the closest TC. Then of course games made by others with that game engine.

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#20 ProjectPat187
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OMG another one of these topics, the PS3 IS NOT powerful enough and will NEVER EVER produce a game this generation with graphics that even come close to Crysis for PC when will you console noobs realize this
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#21 kunal1092000
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OMG another one of these topics, the PS3 IS NOT powerful enough and will NEVER EVER produce a game this generation with graphics that even come close to Crysis for PC when will you console noobs realize thisProjectPat187

I know even the developer for Crytek Studios said No game will match the graphics of Crysis this generation nor is the PC going to go ahead of Crysis graphics this generation because the consoles are stopping it.

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#22 successful19
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OMG another one of these topics, the PS3 IS NOT powerful enough and will NEVER EVER produce a game this generation with graphics that even come close to CrysisProjectPat187
lol? i hope your joking........ theres 2-3 games on ps3 that graphically kill crysis out now

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#23 vaderhater
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[QUOTE="ProjectPat187"]OMG another one of these topics, the PS3 IS NOT powerful enough and will NEVER EVER produce a game this generation with graphics that even come close to Crysissuccessful19

lol? i hope your joking........

He is 100% right in what he said.

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#24 Lantern-Cusp
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Honestly, after playing Uncharted 2 on my 46inch, IMO the graphics are just as good as Crysis. Seriously I have been in awe by the graphics, its pretty ridiculous. No screenshots can do justice like playing the game.

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#25 vaderhater
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[QUOTE="ProjectPat187"]OMG another one of these topics, the PS3 IS NOT powerful enough and will NEVER EVER produce a game this generation with graphics that even come close to Crysissuccessful19

lol? i hope your joking........ theres 2-3 games on ps3 that graphically kill crysis out now

What your saying is just like playing a good round of golf and then showing Tiger Woods your golf score!

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#26 04dcarraher
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Honestly, after playing Uncharted 2 on my 46inch, IMO the graphics are just as good as Crysis. Seriously I have been in awe by the graphics, its pretty ridiculous. No screenshots can do justice like playing the game.

Lantern-Cusp

:shock: Look at the pretty lights :o

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#27 biggest_loser
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Not even close: UC2 and KZ2 are both highly linear games. You're talking about exceeding Crysis on the scale of an open world. It won't be for a very long time.
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#28 Velocitas8
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lol? i hope your joking........ theres 2-3 games on ps3 that graphically kill crysis out nowsuccessful19

Look! It's that guy again.

Protip: saying this on multiple accounts won't suddenly make it true. Pretty much the only instances of posts agreeing with you are just you posting from another account. How many do you have?

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#29 skrat_01
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No this generation. At all. In scale and detail. Mmmmkay.
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#30 azell07
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never bro, just recently we are able to play crysis warhead with enthusiast settings @ res of 1920x1200 2xAA 16X AF. This is with ATI's new monster gpu. That is using one single GpU. crossfire is another story. quit the fanboy dooky, ps3 wont compete unless you take the guts out and use an nvidia chip set mobo, i7 cpu, ddr3, hd, powersuply, dvd player, windows os, and a real GPU. you can take off the ps3 tag and put it on your new machine and call it a ps3 if you would like. xD cant wait for dumb diablo 3. i wanna build a new pc... ah such a great time to be a gamer!

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#31 -GeordiLaForge-
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[QUOTE="-Tretiak"]You tell me.funsohng
my crysis looks better than that

Same here... I force 16xAF and "High Quality" in the control panel, but that still looks like medium-high settings...
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#32 steve17989
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Not far enough. Sure Uncharted 2 looks fantastic, but to say it's on Crysis's level it laughable.

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#33 Gxgear
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Is there an option to filter out topics with the word Crysis in the thread?

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#34 FunkyHeadHunter
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If someone that didnt know better strolled in here and read, they would think that Crysis is 10 years ahead of every game ever made in history. Thats how PCgamers throw it out there..lol...

I have said it before...I have played Crysis on a top end PC. It looks good but its only about 5% better. It is NOTHING jaw dropping after so many years now of great visuals. Im sorry pcgamers but you are being quite dramatic about this game and its been going on for far too long now. Please quit bringing it up. I swear if I as a moderater I would ban anyone that even brings it back up.

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#35 Metalscarz
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Honestly, after playing Uncharted 2 on my 46inch, IMO the graphics are just as good as Crysis. Seriously I have been in awe by the graphics, its pretty ridiculous. No screenshots can do justice like playing the game.

Lantern-Cusp

Funny because after playing both Crysis, and other PC games in real 1080 on my 52 inch I can safely say that as amazing as U2 graphics are for a console title, they are a far cry from Crysis. To be frank I can safely say that the graphics of U2 are so over hyped as the game only looks a little better then the first Uncharted.

Thats not saying the game looks bad. It does infact look pretty damn good. But it's not high end PC game good looking. Not even close. The damn resolution alon can make some games that on consoles are crushed by U2 hold there own. Batman maxed out at 1920x1080 is pretty damn amazing. Unreal 3, Gears 1, Stalker, etc all are pretty damn close if not better looking then U2.

of course many of the Ps3 loving clones of this board will not listen or care, but thats the way it is. Most PS3 people claiming that it has better graphics then Cyrsis dont have a GTX 260 or better. Hell I have a 280 that cost as much as the PS3 costs now when I bought it. It better crap on the consoles. And it does in full 1080p.

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#36 delta3074
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Okay a while back another user put a topic about Uncharted 2 beating Crysis's graphics but as most would think the responses said that it wasn't. So I want to know, how much farther do you think we are from getting Crysis graphics on the PS3 since Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 did not utilize the full power of the PS3? To me I think were just about their just need to push a little more and you got Crysis's graphics. Please do not flame and put stupid fanboy responses. i want your honest opinion and please keep open mind about in this discussion.

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the ps3 just can't do it, same goes for the 360, it's technically impossible for either console to produce visuals on crysis level, for starters crysis requires a minimum of 1 gb of RAM, and the ps3 only has 512mb and to run it top end you need a PC which can do directx 10,which neither console can do, also the resolutions that crysis runs at are way beyond the 1080p that both consoles can put out, basically niether console has the horsepower to run crysis at top end, console games will never match PC games in graphics, take cod4 for example, the ps3 and 360 run this game at 'medium settings' by PC standards, i have been playing doom 3 (a pretty old game) on ultra high, and it actually looks better than most 360/ps3 games.
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#37 Lantern-Cusp
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[QUOTE="Lantern-Cusp"]

Honestly, after playing Uncharted 2 on my 46inch, IMO the graphics are just as good as Crysis. Seriously I have been in awe by the graphics, its pretty ridiculous. No screenshots can do justice like playing the game.

Metalscarz

Funny because after playing both Crysis, and other PC games in real 1080 on my 52 inch I can safely say that as amazing as U2 graphics are for a console title, they are a far cry from Crysis. To be frank I can safely say that the graphics of U2 are so over hyped as the game only looks a little better then the first Uncharted.

Thats not saying the game looks bad. It does infact look pretty damn good. But it's not high end PC game good looking. Not even close. The damn resolution alon can make some games that on consoles are crushed by U2 hold there own. Batman maxed out at 1920x1080 is pretty damn amazing. Unreal 3, Gears 1, Stalker, etc all are pretty damn close if not better looking then U2.

of course many of the Ps3 loving clones of this board will not listen or care, but thats the way it is. Most PS3 people claiming that it has better graphics then Cyrsis dont have a GTX 260 or better. Hell I have a 280 that cost as much as the PS3 costs now when I bought it. It better crap on the consoles. And it does in full 1080p.



Dude, i dont know what your going on about, but in terms of console gaming, Ucharted2 is BY FAR the best looking......its not even debatable. You are either delusional, havent even played Uncharted 2, or never gave it a chance. Seriously WHAT THE F*CK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

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#38 TruedUp
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How come there is atleast ONE PS3 vs PC graphics topic created a day? How many times will we have to post the same Crysis screenshots over and over again?

At this point, consoles are not on the PC level, and probably never will unless the PC "dies", which is unlikely.

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#39 Danm_999
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How come there is atleast ONE PS3 vs PC graphics topic created a day? How many times will we have to post the same Crysis screenshots over and over again?

At this point, consoles are not on the PC level, and probably never will unless the PC "dies", which is unlikely.

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It's called Tall Poppy Syndrome, and even though Crysis was released in 2007, certain fanboys are still feeling it.
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#40 Sky_Fade
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I love it, some people actutally believe that UT3 and Stalker are comparable to Uncharted 2, hell it's laughable. Yes, thanks to the scalabilty of the PC those games can have a far higher resolution then any console game, however resolution is but one factor that dertermines how good a game looks.

Also just an FYI for some people Uncharted 2 does come pretty damn close to Crysis is some areas, in terms of scale and physics it falls short, however in shear visual splendor it comes pretty damn close and even exceeds it in a few cases.

To one of the posters above: Crysis is a linear shooter albiet an one that has a variety of ways to confront a situation.

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#41 skrat_01
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Crysis is a linear shooter albiet an one that has a variety of ways to confront a situation.

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Its really a sandbox shooter with linear progression. I wouldnt categorise it next to strictly linear shooters - by gameplay design, rather than enviroment progression, such the Halos, Half Lifes and CODs (for instance).
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#42 themerlin
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Why do all these PS3 fanboys think that there console s so powerfull ? it`s on par with the 360 that is all.

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#43 mo0ksi
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Scale. Scale. Scale. Scale. Scale? Scale!!! This is the reason why no console game this gen will ever, ever technically surpass Crysis. All because of its huge scale, as well as the great amount of detail that's all loaded up at once. Consoles simply don't have enough RAM and while UC2 looks good, the game is linear, so its scale is much lower.
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#44 mirgamer
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Oh look the Cows made another vs Crysis thread!
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#45 Im_single
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I just recently played through Crysis and Crysis Warhead, very high/Enthuiast with 1 or 2 settings on high or gamer, 8X AA at 1680x1050 Resolution, I'm not on my PC right now so I can't spam my pics but any interested can check them out in the What were you playing thread in the PC games section 9close to the end of the thread), if you honestly think that U2 looks even near the quality and scale of Crysis you have never played Crysis, don't lie. I am playing through U2 right now, act 5 I think, just got to the city and this is no doubt the best looking console game out but Crysis blows it out of the water, I am kind of wishing I didn't play Crysis because it's making other games look so bad graphically in comparison. I'm not a fanboy of either PC or consoles, I own every console this gen and a gaming PC and my opinion isnt biased, it's a fact that Crysis>U2 graphically and Cows just have to live with it.
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#46 Vadamee
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Considering The Cell processor, the PS3 has already outpaced anything on PC in the graphics department. Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, Heavy Rain and Gran Turismo 5 all look better than every PC exclusive. Hell, even 3 year old games like RFOM look about on par with Crysis in terms of graphics and scale.
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#47 RyuRanVII
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If Uncharted 2 graphics were just like the screenshots showed before the game release, it wouldn't be that far from Crysis. But...

Uncharted2

UC2

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#48 mario_gamer
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Joke post?
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#49 SLIisaownsystem
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Okay a while back another user put a topic about Uncharted 2 beating Crysis's graphics but as most would think the responses said that it wasn't. So I want to know, how much farther do you think we are from getting Crysis graphics on the PS3 since Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 did not utilize the full power of the PS3? To me I think were just about their just need to push a little more and you got Crysis's graphics. Please do not flame and put stupid fanboy responses. i want your honest opinion and please keep open mind about in this discussion.

Sephiroth485074

never crysis looks like a complete other game on enthusiast

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#50 04dcarraher
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Sephiroth485074"]

Okay a while back another user put a topic about Uncharted 2 beating Crysis's graphics but as most would think the responses said that it wasn't. So I want to know, how much farther do you think we are from getting Crysis graphics on the PS3 since Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 did not utilize the full power of the PS3? To me I think were just about their just need to push a little more and you got Crysis's graphics. Please do not flame and put stupid fanboy responses. i want your honest opinion and please keep open mind about in this discussion.

the ps3 just can't do it, same goes for the 360, it's technically impossible for either console to produce visuals on crysis level, for starters crysis requires a minimum of 1 gb of RAM, and the ps3 only has 512mb and to run it top end you need a PC which can do directx 10,which neither console can do, also the resolutions that crysis runs at are way beyond the 1080p that both consoles can put out, basically niether console has the horsepower to run crysis at top end, console games will never match PC games in graphics, take cod4 for example, the ps3 and 360 run this game at 'medium settings' by PC standards, i have been playing doom 3 (a pretty old game) on ultra high, and it actually looks better than most 360/ps3 games.

Well the consoles do have 512mb but its split up half for video and the other half for system memory. Consoles cant even play at a native resolution at 1280x720 with 98% of their games, more like 1024x600 or something close. Most Pc gamers in general havent used a res like 1024x768 or below since 2003 At least someone here sees that the consoles arent all powerful when they cant play a doom3 based engine game like PREY where a mid ranged pc from 2006 outclassed the 360. This generation of consoles are closer to pc's then ever before using modified pc hardware and ideas. When the devs were going into the 350 knew what they had and knew what where their limits were going to be and is also true for the PS3. They cant magically make a game look better because the limits, all they can do is focus on certain areas cut here, add here, lower resolution there, make this more shiney, and change up the art style, UT3 engine was focused for the consoles but also Pc was in the loop too. And Gears, UT3, Bioshock and any other UT3 engined based games on consoles have settings equal to Pc's mix of low and medium settings.