People here are claiming that the 360 maxed out(and all that crap), and we all know that isn't true. So i am thinking they might get these claims from the idea that the first xbox got maxed out real quickly, and thats the reason they make these claims. Also the 360 actually has CPU and GPU exclusively made for it, unlike the xbox which had old PC parts(like the pentium 3 CPU and geforce 3 GPU), so the xbox could actually be maxed out fast. Oh and for the record i didn'yt have a xbox.
I assume your implying that the 360 has been maxed out? No, I dont believe it has been yet. Consoles usually arent maxed untill the end of their life cycle.
well ubi montreal did max out xbox with splinter cell 1 (they said it themselves)....but then same devs released splinter cell chaos theory which was obviously the best looking last gen game....so you see even devs dont know if the console is maxed out, the more time they spend developing on console the more they get to know the hardware which means they can get beter graphics out of the system by using better techniques
i thought XBOX1 really never did max out... I guess you could point to the splinter cell games as have pushed the limits of the console... The most dissapointing thing was all the bad looking ports with aweful ps2 graphics when you knew the XBOX was capable of so much more... can't be said this gen though...
i thought XBOX1 really never did max out... I guess you could point to the splinter cell games as have pushed the limits of the console... The most dissapointing thing was all the bad looking ports with aweful ps2 graphics when you knew the XBOX was capable of so much more... can't be said this gen though...colmusterd28
True, In this gen, the Consoles are very equal in terms of Poer and such.
xbox 1 was not an the market long anough to get maxed out. this is why i can't see going next gen soon because heck the dev are just getting started warming up getting use to it way through them another next gen system so soon.
The 360 harwdare has barely been used in current games, most are based on the multiplatform UE3.0, none is ground up made lately, and the CPU is totally underutilised as well
We have seen nothing yet, that is why games like Fable 2 and Alan Wake use 10x the detail than all previous 360 titles,and do some VAST worlds, with lighting that has never been done on any game yet, bar Crysis
360 is just staring to use its power with Fable 2 and Alan Wake, and will only get much better from there
The 360 harwdare has barely been used in current games, most are based on the multiplatform UE3.0, none is ground up made lately, and the CPU is totally underutilised as well
We have seen nothing yet, that is why games like Fable 2 and Alan Wake use 10x the detail than all previous 360 titles,and do some VAST worlds, with lighting that has never been done on any game yet, bar Crysis
360 is just staring to use its power with Fable 2 and Alan Wake, and will only get much better from there
saolin323
Can you have 1 post where you don't mention Fable 2?
The 360 harwdare has barely been used in current games, most are based on the multiplatform UE3.0, none is ground up made lately, and the CPU is totally underutilised as well
We have seen nothing yet, that is why games like Fable 2 and Alan Wake use 10x the detail than all previous 360 titles,and do some VAST worlds, with lighting that has never been done on any game yet, bar Crysis
360 is just staring to use its power with Fable 2 and Alan Wake, and will only get much better from there
saolin323
i now your a huge fable 2 fan which i don't blaim you it does look great but how do you now it has 10x this or that than any other 360 game. have you played it or seen it other than that last trailer that shows two to three sections of the same area. how do you now it will be par with crysis. ect ect ect.
The 360 harwdare has barely been used in current games, most are based on the multiplatform UE3.0, none is ground up made lately, and the CPU is totally underutilised as well
We have seen nothing yet, that is why games like Fable 2 and Alan Wake use 10x the detail than all previous 360 titles,and do some VAST worlds, with lighting that has never been done on any game yet, bar Crysis
360 is just staring to use its power with Fable 2 and Alan Wake, and will only get much better from there
saolin323
Do they pay you to hype Fable 2 up or somethign its like every post that has to do about whatever and you keep boasting Fable 2 and Alan wake seriously stop
I assume your implying that the 360 has been maxed out? No, I dont believe it has been yet. Consoles usually arent maxed untill the end of their life cycle.
black_awpN1
No, but many cows are saying that the 360 is maxed out and i thought they based their claims on the original xbox. So it took 4yrs for the xbox to max out?
The 360 harwdare has barely been used in current games, most are based on the multiplatform UE3.0, none is ground up made lately, and the CPU is totally underutilised as well
We have seen nothing yet, that is why games like Fable 2 and Alan Wake use 10x the detail than all previous 360 titles,and do some VAST worlds, with lighting that has never been done on any game yet, bar Crysis
360 is just staring to use its power with Fable 2 and Alan Wake, and will only get much better from there
tader-salad
Can you have 1 post where you don't mention Fable 2?
i have to admit fable 2 looks like one of the most exciting games coming out but i agree that this guy is a little obsessive.
The 360 harwdare has barely been used in current games, most are based on the multiplatform UE3.0, none is ground up made lately, and the CPU is totally underutilised as well
We have seen nothing yet, that is why games like Fable 2 and Alan Wake use 10x the detail than all previous 360 titles,and do some VAST worlds, with lighting that has never been done on any game yet, bar Crysis
360 is just staring to use its power with Fable 2 and Alan Wake, and will only get much better from there
GARRYTH
i now your a huge fable 2 fan which i don't blaim you it does look great but how do you now it has 10x this or that than any other 360 game. have you played it or seen it other than that last trailer that shows two to three sections of the same area. how do you now it will be par with crysis. ect ect ect.
The 360 harwdare has barely been used in current games, most are based on the multiplatform UE3.0, none is ground up made lately, and the CPU is totally underutilised as well
We have seen nothing yet, that is why games like Fable 2 and Alan Wake use 10x the detail than all previous 360 titles,and do some VAST worlds, with lighting that has never been done on any game yet, bar Crysis
360 is just staring to use its power with Fable 2 and Alan Wake, and will only get much better from there
L1qu1dSword
Can you have 1 post where you don't mention Fable 2?
i have to admit fable 2 looks like one of the most exciting games coming out but i agree that this guy is a little obsessive.
You know......i hope he gets paid for advertising.
The 360 harwdare has barely been used in current games, most are based on the multiplatform UE3.0, none is ground up made lately, and the CPU is totally underutilised as well
We have seen nothing yet, that is why games like Fable 2 and Alan Wake use 10x the detail than all previous 360 titles,and do some VAST worlds, with lighting that has never been done on any game yet, bar Crysis
360 is just staring to use its power with Fable 2 and Alan Wake, and will only get much better from there
L1qu1dSword
Can you have 1 post where you don't mention Fable 2?
i have to admit fable 2 looks like one of the most exciting games coming out but i agree that this guy is a little obsessive.
Yes Fable 2 does look really promising, but will it be as good a saolin says it will be..........................no
The 360 harwdare has barely been used in current games, most are based on the multiplatform UE3.0, none is ground up made lately, and the CPU is totally underutilised as well
We have seen nothing yet, that is why games like Fable 2 and Alan Wake use 10x the detail than all previous 360 titles,and do some VAST worlds, with lighting that has never been done on any game yet, bar Crysis
360 is just staring to use its power with Fable 2 and Alan Wake, and will only get much better from there
saolin323
Give evidence of this. And not that we used "30%" of it's power crap. It's just optimisation, they're still using ALL the hardware for BOTH consoles. At least the good games.
The 360 harwdare has barely been used in current games, most are based on the multiplatform UE3.0, none is ground up made lately, and the CPU is totally underutilised as well
We have seen nothing yet, that is why games like Fable 2 and Alan Wake use 10x the detail than all previous 360 titles,and do some VAST worlds, with lighting that has never been done on any game yet, bar Crysis
360 is just staring to use its power with Fable 2 and Alan Wake, and will only get much better from there
thrones
Give evidence of this. And not that we used "30%" of it's power crap. It's just optimisation, they're still using ALL the hardware for BOTH consoles. At least the good games.
Didn't GS post an interview that said Gears was using 30% of the 360's power? Also mark rein said it himself at the GDC last year and i think it has a Kokatu interview,
People here are claiming that the 360 maxed out(and all that crap), and we all know that isn't true. So i am thinking they might get these claims from the idea that the first xbox got maxed out real quickly, and thats the reason they make these claims. Also the 360 actually has CPU and GPU exclusively made for it, unlike the xbox which had old PC parts(like the pentium 3 CPU and geforce 3 GPU), so the xbox could actually be maxed out fast. Oh and for the record i didn'yt have a xbox.bigevil_rashek
It never did. It ended before we knew what could happen.
If it hasn't been maxed out then why is there frame rate slowdown on a lot of games? 30 FPS FTMFW.
Yes, I own a 360. Yes, it has good games. No, it is not a powerful machine.
AmyMizuno
From a technical perspective, every game uses 100% of the processor cycles and memory all of the time. It is how engines are designed, with the goal being reduced amount of delay in memory allocation and garbage collection.
That may be, but in the end it's still not very powerful.
If it hasn't been maxed out then why is there frame rate slowdown on a lot of games? 30 FPS FTMFW.
Yes, I own a 360. Yes, it has good games. No, it is not a powerful machine.
AmyMizuno
From a technical perspective, every game uses 100% of the processor cycles and memory all of the time. It is how engines are designed, with the goal being reduced amount of delay in memory allocation and garbage collection.
That may be, but in the end it's still not very powerful.
How do you measure 'not very powerful?' In certian areas, the 360 is MORE powerful than the PS3. For basic integer and general purpose calculations, the 360 blows the PS3 away.
The Ps3 isn't very powerful either. They should just focus on making games and not trying to pull Crysis out of them.
the 360 is close to maxed out. Look at the technical computations in its recent games and youll see that the xbox is dated and M$ is already planning for its replacement.
[QUOTE="tader-salad"]When Ninja gaiden and Splinter cell:CT came out I believe.wemhim
Yep, early 2005 was when the Xbox reached it's limit. I dont think the Xbox ever reached its limit. When I saw GoW2 on my PS2 I gotta say I wondered out load what the Xbox could have done with a longer lifespan. And Conker & Doom 3 both had better graphics then the 2 games you listed :P
[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="tader-salad"]When Ninja gaiden and Splinter cell:CT came out I believe.SpideR_CentS
Yep, early 2005 was when the Xbox reached it's limit. I dont think the Xbox ever reached its limit. When I saw GoW2 on my PS2 I gotta say I wondered out load what the Xbox could have done with a longer lifespan. And Conker & Doom 3 both had better graphics then the 2 games you listed :PThat's true. Although Conker didn't have much physics and stuff. But Doom 3 did.
I assume your implying that the 360 has been maxed out? No, I dont believe it has been yet. Consoles usually arent maxed untill the end of their life cycle.
bigevil_rashek
No, but many cows are saying that the 360 is maxed out and i thought they based their claims on the original xbox. So it took 4yrs for the xbox to max out?
Listen anyone at this point besides that actual devs themselves claiming that any console is maxed out are just being fanboys plain and simple. Secondly half the people in here have absolutely no clue what they are talking about when making call such as that.
xbox one only has a 733mhz p3 mobile chip. it would max out pretty fast .deadmeat59
There weren't 3Ghz quad core chips back then...
Look at the original Super Mario Bros and Super Mario Bros 3. Just because a machine isn't powerful by today's standards, it can't have graphical improvements.
we have all seen by the ps2 that consloes can have power squeezed out of them even after they have been superseeded. its realy had to say when something is maxed out but it will take ages for it to truly be unable of getting any better
I don't think developers ever truly hit the tecnhical ceiling with the Xbox. I think it still had some life left in it, but MS killed it off to make way for the 360 and developers abandoned it.
Had it had a year or two more, I think we would've seen some really impressive stuff (Well, impressive by last gen standards that is).
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