How good are KOTOR1 and 2?

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#1 Uzumaki_Naruto5
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Should I buy them?


Which one is better

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#2 the_h_bomb
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KOTOR 1 was great. KOTOR 2 not so much
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#3 VScalar
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Very, and 1 repectively.
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#4 MunkeySpunk69
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KOTOR 1 was great, but i wish i had more control in battle instead of just point and click
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#5 Uzumaki_Naruto5
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Also, if I played them now, would they feel boring and outdated or would I still be able to have fun with em?
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#6 Private_Vegas
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I enjoyed the KotoR series throughly. The combat system is kind of slow paced, but thye have good stories and the option to follow the light or dark side really added to the replay value. I personally think that KotoR 2 is the better of the two installments.
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#7 PBSnipes
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Well KOTOR 1 is the highest rated RPG of all time at gamerankings, so I'd say its decent. KOTOR 2 isn't near as good but still worth a play.

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#8 MetroidPrimePwn
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KotOR was one of the greatest video games ever made.

KotOR II was also a great game, and it had a lot of interesting aspects as far as character development and how your choices effect the party and storyline, but these aspects are underdeveloped and the story and ending were rushed, so it really has a sort of unfinished feel.

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#9 -RPGamer-
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Great. And I just want to defend KOTOR2 by saying I think it fell victim to "sophomore syndrome".
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#10 PBSnipes
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Great. And I just want to defend KOTOR2 by saying I think it fell victim to "sophomore syndrome".-RPGamer-
Its my understanding that it fell victim to LucasArts forcing Obsidian to release it in time for the holiday season. Apparently there was a ton of content cut from the game and obviously the game is riddled with bugs. From what I've heard KOTOR 2 could have been better than KOTOR 1.
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#11 Private_Vegas
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Great. And I just want to defend KOTOR2 by saying I think it fell victim to "sophomore syndrome".-RPGamer-

Would you mind elaborating on that a bit? I have a vague understanding of sophomore syndrome but I don't see how it applies here. I'm just curious because as I mentioned above I prefer KotoR 2 over the first and I'm puzzled as to why it wasn't as well recieved as it's predecessor.

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#12 -RPGamer-
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[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]Great. And I just want to defend KOTOR2 by saying I think it fell victim to "sophomore syndrome".PBSnipes
Its my understanding that it fell victim to LucasArts forcing Obsidian to release it in time for the holiday season. Apparently there was a ton of content cut from the game and obviously the game is riddled with bugs. From what I've heard KOTOR 2 could have been better than KOTOR 1.

Sure that too, I'm just speaking in general. I find many series have a large group of follower that say "the first is the best, period" despite how manyadvances the latter may make or attempt to fix. I think many people just don't have the same feeling for the second or third b/c by that time it's no longer "new" and it will never be "new" again.

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#13 Cry0Tek
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I love KOTOR 1, but never played KOTOR 2 as I heard that it wasnt as strong. I recently purchased Jade Empire LE which I never played and I plan to play it soon. Definately get KOTOR 1 though, its a mark in gaming history. ;)
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[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]Great. And I just want to defend KOTOR2 by saying I think it fell victim to "sophomore syndrome".Private_Vegas

Would you mind elaborating on that a bit? I have a vague understanding of sophomore syndrome but I don't see how it applies here. I'm just curious because as I mentioned above I prefer KotoR 2 over the first and I'm puzzled as to why it wasn't as well recieved as it's predecessor.

Basically sophomore syndrome is when something (game, movie, cd, book whatever) can't provide the "new" feeling, or first tiem feeling, that the previous entry offered. Even if the follow up improves, evolves, and fixes it is still often seen as a weaker entry to many people.

I'm not saying thats the only reason for this game getting lesser acknowledgement.

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#15 Sir-Marwin105
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Kotor 2 is the superior game in my opinion.
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#16 EntwineX
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They're both damn fine, I liked the 1st one a bit better mostly because of the story, but in many gameplay areas the 2nd one takes the points home, like weapon customation, character abilities and influencing your companions. Both are must have games for any RPG or SW fan.
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#17 soulsofblayck
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KOTOR I = disgustingly good. Kotor II compared to I = slightly sub-par but on it's own, a good game with not as strong of a story as I.
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#18 PannicAtack
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I think in some aspects 2 was better than 1. Overall, many will be more inclined to the first. But I think The Sith Lords could have truely been outstanding if they just didn't rush it. There were only two complaints I had with it:

1. Not enough opportunities to use all your party members (never toucked HK-47, and by the time you get G0-T0 with his fancy droid manipulative attacks, you've gone through 75% of the droids in the game)

2. Some annoying plot holes (what the hell happened to the HK-50s?)

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#19 TheDarkDisciple
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KotoR 1- very good, 'nuff said. KotoR 2- good, but could of been very good. I thought the story was awesome for both games but imo KotoR 1 just played out better. I just thought the characters/character development kinda sucked in KotoR 2. The ending kinda sucked too (well, it wasn't bad, but it felt rushed and just didn't feel like a good end to the game but maybe KotoR 3 can fix that.)
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2. Some annoying plot holes (what the hell happened to the HK-50s?)PannicAtack
obsidian was forced to cut out a lot of things from the end of the game. a droid planet where the HK factory was. the underground military base on telos. an actual ending to the game that involves the rest of the characters.
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#21 Supafly1
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Kotor 1 is a very good game but Kotor 2 was actually a bit mediocre. The graphics weren't that great anymore but the problem wasn't there, it was the scenery, it was just so dull and repetitive compared to the first game. It was very short, the characters didn't seem real enough to care for them and all of the jedi and force philosophy made my head hurt because it was just too blown and didn't feel like Star Wars anymore.
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#22 cobrax75
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]2. Some annoying plot holes (what the hell happened to the HK-50s?)dooly420
obsidian was forced to cut out a lot of things from the end of the game. a droid planet where the HK factory was. the underground military base on telos. an actual ending to the game that involves the rest of the characters.

apparently modders are trying to put that back into KOTAR too using the leftover code.

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#23 darklord888
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Kotor 1 - Amazing, one of my favorite RPG's or in fact games overall.

Kotor 2 - Boring/annoying characters, awful framerate, unbalanced and oh yeah, completely unfinished including having no ending. If it was done properly it would have been better but still wouldn't have been nearly as good. G0-T0 = worst character ever.
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#24 TerroRizing
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Great. And I just want to defend KOTOR2 by saying I think it fell victim to "sophomore syndrome".-RPGamer-

It fell victim to not developed by Bioware syndrome.

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#25 dooly420
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[QUOTE="dooly420"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]2. Some annoying plot holes (what the hell happened to the HK-50s?)cobrax75

obsidian was forced to cut out a lot of things from the end of the game. a droid planet where the HK factory was. the underground military base on telos. an actual ending to the game that involves the rest of the characters.

apparently modders are trying to put that back into KOTAR too using the leftover code.

i know, i've been waiting for them to finish. but they've been at it for almost 3 years. i just hope they finish it at all.
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#26 hungrycow
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They are UNBELIEVABLY OVERRATED.

They are maybe one of the most over rated games of last gen, they are up there with the likes of Halo 2. The first game had terrible graphics, an incredibly stale story line and a bad combat system. Really I personally only bought the game because of the massive ammount of high ratings it got and I ended up quiting the game in the middle of it because I didn't want to finish it. And the only time I EVER quit a game in the middle because it was so bad was FFX-2. This game has no memorable characters and such a stale gameplay, it seems like work trying to progress in the storyline.

My advice is to stay away from this game. But then again maybe it's just me who doesn't like this game.

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#27 agentfred
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Am I the only one who thought KOTOR 2 was pretty much on par with the original? It followed in it's footsteps pretty closely sure, but other than that, I thought the two were pretty much equal in terms of quality.
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#28 MrSickVisionz
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KOTOR1 was great in everything. KOTOR2 had an interesting story with alot of philosophy and discussion on the force that you could enjoy and SW fans could conemplate for years. It also had interesting characters and influence was cool. But the gameplay was super easy and dear god the game was buggy as hell. I'd pray that its the buggiest game ever released because if not, some gamer out there played something that was just absolute hell on a DVD-9.
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#29 Tiefster
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Kotor > Kotor 2. Both are great, you should get both, among the best I've ever played
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#30 Zaxro
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KotOr 1 is one of my top 10 games of all time. Kotor 2 is probably somewhere in the top 30-40. Main things that made Kotor 2 not quite as good for me was the last sections and all of the bugs. Both games I give huge recomendations to.
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#31 majadamus
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KOTOR made me forget about life. I've never played the 2nd one.
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#32 leviathan91
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KotOR is so much fun but I can't say the same for KotOR2.