How is Nintendo so far behind in online play?

When looking at a company like Nintendo, you'd think they would have a successful online system.

Whats with the constant dissapoints with the online play? No voice chat, no leader boards, no stat tracking, no DLC (this is somewhat understandable since the lack of a standard HDD, but still), etc.

And please don't give me "but Nintendo is focusing on the gameplay and games" because thats straight up garbage and no excuse. Their online system is great, built in Wi-Fi, great Virtual Console system and downloads, and intuitive design. If they really focused on the games like fanboys claim, we'd have Smash Brothers with text/voice chat and leaderboards due to the competative nature of the game.

Unacceptable.

When looking at a company like Nintendo, you'd think they would have a successful online system.

Whats with the constant dissapoints with the online play? No voice chat, no leader boards, no stat tracking, no DLC (this is somewhat understandable since the lack of a standard HDD, but still), etc.

And please don't give me "but Nintendo is focusing on the gameplay and games" because thats straight up garbage and no excuse. Their online system is great, built in Wi-Fi, great Virtual Console system and downloads, and intuitive design. If they really focused on the games like fanboys claim, we'd have Smash Brothers with text/voice chat and leaderboards due to the competative nature of the game.

Unacceptable.

Mercenary343

Nintendo is simply trying to maintain their family-friendly image which I'm sure would be marred if the introduced Voice chat on a super competitive game like SSBB. I personally don't approve of it but they have their reasons.

[QUOTE="Mercenary343"]

When looking at a company like Nintendo, you'd think they would have a successful online system.

Whats with the constant dissapoints with the online play? No voice chat, no leader boards, no stat tracking, no DLC (this is somewhat understandable since the lack of a standard HDD, but still), etc.

And please don't give me "but Nintendo is focusing on the gameplay and games" because thats straight up garbage and no excuse. Their online system is great, built in Wi-Fi, great Virtual Console system and downloads, and intuitive design. If they really focused on the games like fanboys claim, we'd have Smash Brothers with text/voice chat and leaderboards due to the competative nature of the game.

Unacceptable.

Popadophalis

Nintendo is simply trying to maintain their family-friendly image which I'm sure would be marred if the introduced Voice chat on a super competitive game like SSBB. I personally don't approve of it but they have their reasons.

The mute button is a much older technology then this.

Also, personaly I feel N is going about it kinda the wrong way. I understand their desire to not let strangers trade info, chat, and so on. They are the family console company and they feel strongly about protecting minors and allowing people to have fun and not confront unpleasent experiences online. And that's cool

But that's also what friendcodes are for. If I'm playing with a friend, that means we know each other. At that point I should have full contact with them, voice, text, user name, ranking...everything.

When looking at a company like Nintendo, you'd think they would have a successful online system.

Whats with the constant dissapoints with the online play? No voice chat, no leader boards, no stat tracking, no DLC (this is somewhat understandable since the lack of a standard HDD, but still), etc.

And please don't give me "but Nintendo is focusing on the gameplay and games" because thats straight up garbage and no excuse. Their online system is great, built in Wi-Fi, great Virtual Console system and downloads, and intuitive design. If they really focused on the games like fanboys claim, we'd have Smash Brothers with text/voice chat and leaderboards due to the competative nature of the game.

Unacceptable.

Mercenary343

Mario Kart will have Leader Boards and Stat Tracking along with DLC, but you're absolutely right. Nintendo needs to step up their online gaming palette, and actually put forth the effort to make a good online experience.

Everyone's Nintendo and Wiiware Channel is a step in the right direction, but the lack of voice chat, even between friends, is unacceptable, and Nintendo really needs to overhaul their matchmaking system. Friend codes is one thing, but the entire process is completely unintuitive and complex that the FCs are likely driving away the people they're supposed to protect.

It's not a priority to sell games for their systems

It's costly, and the Compettion is so far ahead.

The Pay to Play will spice things up, we may one day get VOICE CHAT!

When looking at a company like Nintendo, you'd think they would have a successful online system.

Whats with the constant dissapoints with the online play? No voice chat, no leader boards, no stat tracking, no DLC (this is somewhat understandable since the lack of a standard HDD, but still), etc.

And please don't give me "but Nintendo is focusing on the gameplay and games" because thats straight up garbage and no excuse. Their online system is great, built in Wi-Fi, great Virtual Console system and downloads, and intuitive design. If they really focused on the games like fanboys claim, we'd have Smash Brothers with text/voice chat and leaderboards due to the competative nature of the game.

Unacceptable.

Mercenary343

They're so far behind in online play because they know that the average console owner will never even touch online play.

I would venture to guess that saying 20% of console owners use online and voice chat is a high estimate.

Do I know why they dont have it? No. Do I care that its not there. No. Do I care that my PC, the 360, and PS3 have it? No.

I would venture to guess that saying 20% of console owners use online and voice chat is a high estimate.

Do I know why they dont have it? No. Do I care that its not there. No. Do I care that my PC, the 360, and PS3 have it? No.

travt-down

I would venture a guess that 20% of your post is inaccurate.

Does everyone agree with your opinions? No.

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I would venture to guess that saying 20% of console owners use online and voice chat is a high estimate.

Do I know why they dont have it? No. Do I care that its not there. No. Do I care that my PC, the 360, and PS3 have it? No.

SolidTy

I would venture a guess that 20% of your post is inaccurate.

Does everyone agree with your opinions? No.

Come on Ty, lets put our thinking caps on. How many PSN users are there? Last official number from a few weeks ago was what? Maybe 1.5 million I think. How many PS3 users? 10-11 million. That would be less than 15% and i am sure that not all of them have accounts to play games. XBL has tons of members, but thats lifetime. How many people are on CoD4, Halo 3, or whatever at a time? 18 million? No. A fraction.

It's not a priority to sell games for their systems

It's costly, and the Compettion is so far ahead.

The Pay to Play will spice things up, we may one day get VOICE CHAT!

SolidTy

The competition really wasn't that far ahead at the beginning of this generation, though.
Sony and their PSN isn't that impressive, Nintendo could easily match or surpass it. XBL is much more advanced, but no one expects Nintendo to pass it, it would be nice for us gamers to see them try, though.

If the Pay to Play service is the reason we get a better online system, expect the amount of threads with "PSN > XBL/Wii online because free > paying" to increase.

casual dont play online....joeychew

yet... its pretty accessable.

I think it's a simple case, of not being able to afford it.... or more unwilling to take the risk. Nintendo played it safe with the Wii, making it both the cheapest and weakest console out there, they have appealed to the majority of casual gamers out there and can't really be bothered about their core gamers (Simple business fact). Sony can rely on their other business enterprises, so they can afford to lose with the PS3, like they were doing at the start and Microsoft is in the same boat.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="travt-down"]

I would venture to guess that saying 20% of console owners use online and voice chat is a high estimate.

Do I know why they dont have it? No. Do I care that its not there. No. Do I care that my PC, the 360, and PS3 have it? No.

travt-down

I would venture a guess that 20% of your post is inaccurate.

Does everyone agree with your opinions? No.

Come on Ty, lets put our thinking caps on. How many PSN users are there? Last official number from a few weeks ago was what? Maybe 1.5 million I think. How many PS3 users? 10-11 million. That would be less than 15% and i am sure that not all of them have accounts to play games. XBL has tons of members, but thats lifetime. How many people are on CoD4, Halo 3, or whatever at a time? 18 million? No. A fraction.

Are you sure thats world wide numbers? Because last I heard was that 50% of US PS3 owners had a PSN account.

When looking at a company like Nintendo, you'd think they would have a successful online system.

Mercenary343

Yet if you actually LISTEN to Nintendo, they continue to say they aren't that interested yet in online gaming or pushing it with their consoles.

Hey as long as I can play online with friends this gen on a nintendo console im happy :D

the only thing nintendo needs to improve on is the communication aspect and get rid of the ridiculous friend codes.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

It's not a priority to sell games for their systems

It's costly, and the Compettion is so far ahead.

The Pay to Play will spice things up, we may one day get VOICE CHAT!

Mercenary343

The competition really wasn't that far ahead at the beginning of this generation, though.
Sony and their PSN isn't that impressive, Nintendo could easily match or surpass it. XBL is much more advanced, but no one expects Nintendo to pass it, it would be nice for us gamers to see them try, though.

If the Pay to Play service is the reason we get a better online system, expect the amount of threads with "PSN > XBL/Wii online because free > paying" to increase.

I'm going to surprise you and say that Nintendo will never catch up to Sony's Online, ever. PSN is impressive, not as impressive as Xbox LIve, but don't kid yourself it's chump change.

The Wii hasn't even caught up to Xbox 1 or the PS2's online.

[QUOTE="Mercenary343"]

When looking at a company like Nintendo, you'd think they would have a successful online system.

ZIMdoom

Yet if you actually LISTEN to Nintendo, they continue to say they aren't that interested yet in online gaming or pushing it with their consoles.

That is correct. Nintendo isn't interested, and it's an expensive venture. Especially considering they are doing quite fine as it is.

[QUOTE="Mercenary343"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

It's not a priority to sell games for their systems

It's costly, and the Compettion is so far ahead.

The Pay to Play will spice things up, we may one day get VOICE CHAT!

SolidTy

The competition really wasn't that far ahead at the beginning of this generation, though.
Sony and their PSN isn't that impressive, Nintendo could easily match or surpass it. XBL is much more advanced, but no one expects Nintendo to pass it, it would be nice for us gamers to see them try, though.

If the Pay to Play service is the reason we get a better online system, expect the amount of threads with "PSN > XBL/Wii online because free > paying" to increase.

I'm going to surprise you and say that Nintendo will never catch up to Sony's Online, ever. PSN is impressive, not as impressive as Xbox LIve, but don't kid yourself it's chump change.

The Wii hasn't even caught up to Xbox 1 or the PS2's online.

So basically, you just told me that you're entirely ignorant of the subject and should probably leave the thread before saying more ignorant things. The Wii has more online features than people give it credit for. The Wii was the first console to introduce the idea of DOWNLOADING GAMES FROM THE INTERNET with VC. They have "one-click" internet fuctionality in almost all of their big multiplayer games. People only bash the Wii's online because it doesn't have chat, which is a perfectly acceptable decision considering there are so many worthless e-bullies out there that leave a giant stain on internet gaming.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="Mercenary343"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

It's not a priority to sell games for their systems

It's costly, and the Compettion is so far ahead.

The Pay to Play will spice things up, we may one day get VOICE CHAT!

mdisen

The competition really wasn't that far ahead at the beginning of this generation, though.
Sony and their PSN isn't that impressive, Nintendo could easily match or surpass it. XBL is much more advanced, but no one expects Nintendo to pass it, it would be nice for us gamers to see them try, though.

If the Pay to Play service is the reason we get a better online system, expect the amount of threads with "PSN > XBL/Wii online because free > paying" to increase.

I'm going to surprise you and say that Nintendo will never catch up to Sony's Online, ever. PSN is impressive, not as impressive as Xbox LIve, but don't kid yourself it's chump change.

The Wii hasn't even caught up to Xbox 1 or the PS2's online.

So basically, you just told me that you're entirely ignorant of the subject and should probably leave the thread before saying more ignorant things. The Wii has more online features than people give it credit for. The Wii was the first console to introduce the idea of DOWNLOADING GAMES FROM THE INTERNET with VC. They have "one-click" internet fuctionality in almost all of their big multiplayer games. People only bash the Wii's online because it doesn't have chat, which is a perfectly acceptable decision considering there are so many worthless e-bullies out there that leave a giant stain on internet gaming.

Wow, you Sheep can't take the truth very well. Friend codes suck. No HDD sucks. No Voice Chat sucks. No Ethernet Plug Sucks. ANd get your facts straight about the VC, as a Wii owner with FOUR full pages of VC games, Nintendo didn't introduce DL games from the net, silly.