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#1 rgame1
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Every1 thought DS would be eaten by PSP.

Now that it has sold beyond 70mil it get everything. COD4, AC + shed load of "nex gen" games.

However, those games never come to Wii. So do I have to wait till Wii hits 70 mill b4 I get any decent third party games? Do I have to become a Cow (and play the waiting game)?

*waits for a third party AAAE killer app*

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#2 Taalon
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But CoD4 DS was awful :|
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#3 Dibdibdobdobo
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It will never be taken serious. I'm a Wii owner aswell.
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#4 the-very-best
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First the LBP thread, and now this, nice.

What response are you looking for?

:lol: Wii sucks cause it's kiddy! :lol:

Let's just ignore the fact that it got 2 AAAes already this year, whereas the PS3 and 360 didn't get one. Yes, the Wii needs stronger 3rd party support but it's already increasing (Okami = AAA, most recent example) and if sales continue to increase (which they will), devs will be forced to take notice.

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#5 Taalon
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First the LBP thread, and now this, nice.

What response are you looking for?

:lol: Wii sucks cause it's kiddy! :lol:

Let's just ignore the fact that it got 2 AAAes already this year, whereas the PS3 and 360 didn't get one. Yes, the Wii needs stronger 3rd party support but it's already increasing (Okami = AAA, most recent example) and if sales continue to increase (which they will), devs will be forced to take notice.

the-very-best


Okami was a port of an AAA game, though. I agree however.
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#6 the-very-best
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It will never be taken serious. I'm a Wii owner aswell.Dibdibdobdobo

DS had awful 3rd party support when first released (Sprung!)... and it just got DQIX as an exclusive. If that doesn't tell us that it's being taken seriously, I dunno what does. Wii will probably follow.

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#7 mudman91878
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Who cares if it's taken seriously? Also, who are these people that you want to take the wii seriously? Does it even matter? The wii is selling very well, if developers think they can make their games work on the wii, believe me, they'll put it on the wii. They won't pass up the potential 25 million or so customers.
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#8 LINKloco
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I have all gen, but I'm seriously not interested with those games coming to the Wii. I want quality original exclusives.
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#9 Taalon
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I have all gen, but I'm seriously not interested with those games coming to the Wii. I want quality original exclusives.LINKloco


Neither, I don't really have any interest in ports or multiplats.
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#10 Dibdibdobdobo
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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]It will never be taken serious. I'm a Wii owner aswell.the-very-best

DS had awful 3rd party support when first released (Sprung!)... and it just got DQIX as an exclusive. If that doesn't tell us that it's being taken seriously, I dunno what does. Wii will probably follow.

Hope it does! I'm not too concerned about many of the big companies that much as many have become god awful and have not produced anything special since the PS2 era! I hope the surge of small developers who will come to the Wii hopefully will bring some freshness which has made gaming abit stagment as of recent.

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#11 TDLlama
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When there are more Wiis than 360s and PS3s combined, you'll see a turnaround.
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#12 Eponique
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The Wii has the most exclusive 3rd Party AAAEs, lmfao. :lol:

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#13 armen925
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Every1 thought DS would be eaten by PSP.

Now that it has sold beyond 70mil it get everything. COD4, AC + shed load of "nex gen" games.

However, those games never come to Wii. So do I have to wait till Wii hits 70 mill b4 I get any decent third party games? Do I have to become a Cow (and play the waiting game)?

*waits for a third party AAAE killer app*

rgame1

I thought that too i thought the DS would get wiped out off the face of this earth. The DS is great, developers really put some hard work into its hardware with a lot of original games. And its consistency to release great games is such a plus for DS owners whereas PSP owners have to wait months for such titles.

But when people thought the PSP would kill the DS we had thought in hardware, titles, on top of that all the downloadable content. But when we compare the DS and the Wii the sales for the DS is worthy of its praise but the wii is not so much. The wii has about only 6 great titles.

I think this gen wii is much like the PSP you have to wait for great titles. Its shovelware being released is horrible and you can blame Ubisoft.

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I have all gen, but I'm seriously not interested with those games coming to the Wii. I want quality original exclusives.LINKloco
It's called Wiiware mate, and in frigging rocks!
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I have all gen, but I'm seriously not interested with those games coming to the Wii. I want quality original exclusives.LINKloco

Not even Madworld? :(

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#16 CoreyNT
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The Wii doesn't have many titles that appeal to me.

The only games I have on the Wii is Wii Sports, Wii Fit, and Game Party(my parents got that over GTA4.. wtf!)

All I mildly like is Wii Fit. I would definatly sell my Wii for a PS3.(Won't need to because I'm getting a PS3 anyway)

All in all the Wii really is only for little kids.

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#17 armen925
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The Wii doesn't have many titles that appeal to me.

The only games I have on the Wii is Wii Sports, Wii Fit, and Game Party(my parents got that over GTA4.. wtf!)

All I mildly like is Wii Fit. I would definatly sell my Wii for a PS3.(Won't need to because I'm getting a PS3 anyway)

All in all the Wii really is only for little kids.

CoreyNT

i suggest RE4 wii edition its a great game.

perhaps get all three Metroid Primes and beat them 100% sounds fun.

Brawl online is a lota fun.

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The Wii doesn't have many titles that appeal to me.

The only games I have on the Wii is Wii Sports, Wii Fit, and Game Party(my parents got that over GTA4.. wtf!)

All I mildly like is Wii Fit. I would definatly sell my Wii for a PS3.(Won't need to because I'm getting a PS3 anyway)

All in all the Wii really is only for little kids.

CoreyNT

You are the kind of people I absolutely hate in System Wars when it comes to Wii, you have 3 games, 1 of which is free and is more a tech demo than a game, one of which is an fitness application and not a game, and another which is a crappy minigame compilation, you have none of the amazing Wii games like Galaxy, Brawl, MP3, Okami, Pro Evo '08, Godfather, Zack and Wiki, No More Heroes, Boom Blox, Mario Kart, GH3, yet you dismiss the Wii as kiddy. The only reason you find it kiddy is because you made bad buying choices, you bought crap games, you only have yourself to blame. And if you say you don't want any of those games on the list you're either a lier, or you shouldn't have bought a Wii in the first place.

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[QUOTE="LINKloco"]I have all gen, but I'm seriously not interested with those games coming to the Wii. I want quality original exclusives.Taalon


Neither, I don't really have any interest in ports or multiplats.


Same. I bought my Wii for:
A) Nintendo Games
B) Games that exploit the unique abilites of the system
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#20 ikwal
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Why would you want multiplat games on Wii when the Wii version will be awful compared to the PC/PS3/360 version? Btw who's taking the DS seriously except for Nintendo? They're just out to make a quick buck on the DS.

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#21 bobbetybob
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Why would you want multiplat games on Wii when the Wii version will be awful compared to the PC/PS3/360 version? Btw who's taking the DS seriously except for Nintendo? They're just out to make a quick buck on the DS.

ikwal

Pro Evolution 2008 is proof that if a developer isnn't a lazy sod and actually tries they can make a superior multiplat for Wii. So don't go giving me "All multiplats on Wii would suck no matter what they did!!" style BS.

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#22 air_wolf_cubed
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your waiting for a 3rd party AAAe? go play NMH. it exists you know
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Why would you want multiplat games on Wii when the Wii version will be awful compared to the PC/PS3/360 version? Btw who's taking the DS seriously except for Nintendo? They're just out to make a quick buck on the DS.

ikwal

Capcom. After the success of the Phoenix Wright remakes, they gave in to the fans demanding a fourth, new Ace Attorney game.

Square-Enix is also taking it quite seriously with The World Ends With You and Dragon Quest IX.

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#24 Doctor-Salvador
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[QUOTE="ikwal"]

Why would you want multiplat games on Wii when the Wii version will be awful compared to the PC/PS3/360 version? Btw who's taking the DS seriously except for Nintendo? They're just out to make a quick buck on the DS.

Technoweirdo

Capcom. After the success of the Phoenix Wright remakes, they gave in to the fans demanding a fourth, new Ace Attorney game.

Square-Enix is also taking it quite seriously with The World Ends With You and Dragon Quest IX.

Oh... I guess you haven't heard the news about square...

http://www.destructoid.com/more-detail-from-square-president-no-more-non-mainstream-games-allowed-87774.phtml

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#25 Weslii
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Meh, it's serious enough for me. Wii gets all the new and innovative 3rd partiy games while 360 and PS3 get all the sequels.
And guess which ones I want...
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#26 crunchUK
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Why would you want multiplat games on Wii when the Wii version will be awful compared to the PC/PS3/360 version? Btw who's taking the DS seriously except for Nintendo? They're just out to make a quick buck on the DS.

ikwal

quick buck @ 70 mil. lolz. although i see what you mean. their 1st party DS titles haven't got that nintendo greatness which we all love about them. except for maybe phantom hourglass. as for the wii i can assure you that MS and sony are taking it very seriously indeed.

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#27 The_Ish
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It depends on how seriously people view consoles.

That said, I don't think Nintendo did a good job with the Wii. Motion sensing up to this point has been largely gimmicky, and the system is buried under shovel-ware.

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I think the third party support has gotten a lot better recently. I mean, Monster Hunter 3 was moved from PS3 to Wii! On top of that, we have Deadly Creatures, Skate It, King's Story, Tales of Symphonia 2, Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles 2, Sky Crawlers, and a heck of a lot more coming out. We also have first party Nintendo titles to look forward, too. I don't know if they are first or second party, but Fatal Frame IV and Disaster: Day of Crisis looks damn good.

Listen, if you don't like Wii, that's cool. Personally, I find the Wii the best system this generation because it offers the most fresh and original experience of them all. Nintendo's first party titles are more than enough to hold me over. The third party titles are just extras.

Also, No More Heroes was so much freaking fun!

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#29 LINKloco
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[QUOTE="LINKloco"]I have all gen, but I'm seriously not interested with those games coming to the Wii. I want quality original exclusives.---OkeyDokey---

Not even Madworld? :(

That's an exclusive with potential, so I'm interested. I'm talking mutiplats here.
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#30 LINKloco
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[QUOTE="LINKloco"]I have all gen, but I'm seriously not interested with those games coming to the Wii. I want quality original exclusives.-CheeseEater-
It's called Wiiware mate, and in frigging rocks!

I'm speaking of full length disc games. And yeah, so far WiiWare has been good.
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Since when are consoles taken seriously. I thought that consoles were for games, and that games were about FUN.
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#32 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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Why do graphics whores think sheep are jealous of mediocre games like Assassins creed :lol:

CoD4 maybe buthats only for the SP. The wii is taken seriously because of the amount of amazing titles on it and the fact that it already has 1st party AAAE 3rd party AAAE and a GOTY.

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#33 YoshiFan123
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There are great games for the wii but come on 3rd Parties, you see developers like Plantinum Games trying to make a good game for the wii and you see High Voltage trying to make a good game for the wii. We seen good 3rd party games like NMH, Zack and Wiki, etc...., Nintendo we see you making great games for the wii, but you guys have to start thinking because the majority of wii owners are hardcore owners:

http://kotaku.com/5010227/nintendo-wii-gamers-are-hardcore-gamers

You need to stop developers like Ubisoft and start telling them to take the wii seriously and not release games just for a quick buck, they need to realize that people are going to stop buying there games.

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omg...COD4, AC for NDS sucks big time.
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[QUOTE="ikwal"]

Why would you want multiplat games on Wii when the Wii version will be awful compared to the PC/PS3/360 version? Btw who's taking the DS seriously except for Nintendo? They're just out to make a quick buck on the DS.

Technoweirdo

Capcom. After the success of the Phoenix Wright remakes, they gave in to the fans demanding a fourth, new Ace Attorney game.

Square-Enix is also taking it quite seriously with The World Ends With You and Dragon Quest IX.

Add Konami in there and you have three of the biggest DS third party supporters :o And yea, Konami's taking it seriously. Not to mention Treasure, Eidos, Atlus and Activision are in the line of 'serious' devs as well.

I think the Wii will get more 3rd party titles/exclusives as the years go by; with any luck, exclusives like Madworld will sell well and oher devs will follow Platinum's lead. If not, I can't see Ninty support making fanboys taking the Wii seriously, even with SMG and friends :|

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#36 fishfake
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The Wii doesn't have many titles that appeal to me.

The only games I have on the Wii is Wii Sports, Wii Fit, and Game Party(my parents got that over GTA4.. wtf!)

All I mildly like is Wii Fit. I would definatly sell my Wii for a PS3.(Won't need to because I'm getting a PS3 anyway)

All in all the Wii really is only for little kids.

CoreyNT

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#37 YoshiFan123
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The Wii doesn't have many titles that appeal to me.

The only games I have on the Wii is Wii Sports, Wii Fit, and Game Party(my parents got that over GTA4.. wtf!)

All I mildly like is Wii Fit. I would definatly sell my Wii for a PS3.(Won't need to because I'm getting a PS3 anyway)

All in all the Wii really is only for little kids.

CoreyNT
hmm..... after seeing the trailer for Mad World and seeing No More Heroes, I don't know what to think, also name me a little kid who beat Metroid Prime 3?
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#38 naruto7777
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Next gen
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[QUOTE="CoreyNT"]

The Wii doesn't have many titles that appeal to me.

The only games I have on the Wii is Wii Sports, Wii Fit, and Game Party(my parents got that over GTA4.. wtf!)

All I mildly like is Wii Fit. I would definatly sell my Wii for a PS3.(Won't need to because I'm getting a PS3 anyway)

All in all the Wii really is only for little kids.

YoshiFan123

hmm..... after seeing the trailer for Mad World and seeing No More Heroes, I don't know what to think, also name me a little kid who beat Metroid Prime 3?

amazing. 2 games with blood suddenly make the wii not targeted towards casuals and children. :?

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#40 Shafftehr
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Even if third party devs are taking a while to get up and running on the Wii, most of the people who could seriously be called Sheep are the ones who were happy GC owners last gen - which means they'd be happy playing little but Nintendo first party games for an entire generation. Well, unless they're like me, who was a happy GC owners, but dislikes motion control :(
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Wii does have some decent third party games.


Also, there are quite a few Wii games to come out from 3rd parties that look to have promise, including WiiWare games.

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#42 Sonick54
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Wii does have some decent third party games.


Also, there are quite a few Wii games to come out from 3rd parties that look to have promise, including WiiWare games.

Homesrfan

Guitar hero is better on 360. Medal of honor is a psp port (though, it's still good). elebits was decent and ssx just flopped.

everything else i agree with

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#43 air_wolf_cubed
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[QUOTE="Homesrfan"]

Wii does have some decent third party games.


Also, there are quite a few Wii games to come out from 3rd parties that look to have promise, including WiiWare games.

Sonick54

Guitar hero is better on 360. Medal of honor is a psp port (though, it's still good). elebits was decent and ssx just flopped.

everything else i agree with

multiplat =/= port
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#44 Homesrfan
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Guitar hero is better on 360. Medal of honor is a psp port (though, it's still good). elebits was decent and ssx just flopped.

everything else i agree with

Sonick54

You say Guitar Hero 3 is better on 360, but Medal of Honor Heroes 2 is better on Wii. I don't care if SSX flopped, I still really enjoyed it. It scored decently as well. And Elebits was an excellent launch game.

I even said "Wii does have some decent third party games."

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#45 mistervengeance
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the wii should never be taken seriously
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#46 Requem
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Every1 thought DS would be eaten by PSP.

Now that it has sold beyond 70mil it get everything. COD4, AC + shed load of "nex gen" games.

However, those games never come to Wii. So do I have to wait till Wii hits 70 mill b4 I get any decent third party games? Do I have to become a Cow (and play the waiting game)?

*waits for a third party AAAE killer app*

rgame1

No More Heroes is my AAA third party exclusive game. It was sooooo great I played the game until my arms fall of from swinging. Great story, totally kick ass plot and amazing combat with excelent use of Wiimote.

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#47 Requem
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the wii should never be taken seriouslymistervengeance

Care to explain why?

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#48 bobbetybob
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[QUOTE="mistervengeance"]the wii should never be taken seriouslyRequem

Care to explain why?

'Cause he's a Lemming fanboy and Wii doesn't have "DA HDZ!!!" therefore it sucks.

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[QUOTE="YoshiFan123"][QUOTE="CoreyNT"]

The Wii doesn't have many titles that appeal to me.

The only games I have on the Wii is Wii Sports, Wii Fit, and Game Party(my parents got that over GTA4.. wtf!)

All I mildly like is Wii Fit. I would definatly sell my Wii for a PS3.(Won't need to because I'm getting a PS3 anyway)

All in all the Wii really is only for little kids.

Sonick54

hmm..... after seeing the trailer for Mad World and seeing No More Heroes, I don't know what to think, also name me a little kid who beat Metroid Prime 3?

amazing. 2 games with blood suddenly make the wii not targeted towards casuals and children. :?

Just telling you not all games on the wii are targeted for little kids, There are games like MP3 which are confusing because you backtrack and all, there are games like Zack and Wiki which have some hard puzzles, there are games like Zelda that you have to collect things that sometimes confuse the kids, So show me that the wii is targeted for kids because the trashy games I see don't really sell alot, also like I proved in the other post, the majority of wii owners are harcore gamers.
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#50 Sonick54
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[QUOTE="Sonick54"]

Guitar hero is better on 360. Medal of honor is a psp port (though, it's still good). elebits was decent and ssx just flopped.

everything else i agree with

Homesrfan

You say Guitar Hero 3 is better on 360, but Medal of Honor Heroes 2 is better on Wii. I don't care if SSX flopped, I still really enjoyed it. It scored decently as well. And Elebits was an excellent launch game.

I even said "Wii does have some decent third party games."

i never disagreed that it didn't though