How long do we have to wait for WiiU to beat last gen games?

Just wondering. We hear the usual insecure talk of "potential", "hidden powah!", "Lazy devs", "don't judge launch games!" and so forth.

Well, how long do we have to wait to see results? 6 months? A year? 2 years? Til new Zelda? Or new Mario? Or new Retro Studios game? Or a AAA 3rd party exclusive?

What if they don't look/sound/play better then last gen either? What if their game worlds never get as big as Skyrim, or as destructible as Red Faction or Battlefield, or as creative as Minecraft or Little Big Planet, or as huge online as Final Fantasy XI, or as big and creative a community as Halo, or as pretty as Halo/Gears/Forza/Uncharted/GOW/Crysis?

What happens if no WiiU games beat last gen in any way?

Inferior last gen ports and 720P 2d Mario are what we have so far, and those are not encouraging signs to me. But I'm bitter and crotchety after Wii :P

What do the happy sheep think? When (if ever) do you expect a game that causes jaws to drop and have Xbox 360 and PS3 gamers drooling in envy? And importantly, will we see such a game before 720 and PS4 land?

Thank you for your time :)

Wii what? It's irrelevent with the PS4 on the horizon. As is every other console.

I think need for speed most wanted U looks slightly better than literally all the 360/PS3 games from what I saw in pictures of the game.The earliest will be E3.

I think need for speed most wanted U looks slightly better than literally all the 360/PS3 games from what I saw in pictures of the game.The earliest will be E3.

super600

I think need for speed most wanted U looks slightly better than literally all the 360/PS3 games from what I saw in pictures of the game.The earliest will be E3.

super600

From the video I saw it looks like it has a more stable frame rate with less cars on screen. Six compare to 8 found on the PS3/360/PC. 

doesn't matter if we do get great looking games, you'll still be fighting tooth and nail trying to claim that they looks somehow "worse"

Fact of the matter is it's around 360/ps3 level, being a bit better in certain areas. Games will be in that same ball park but with Nintendo art style

doesn't matter if we do get great looking games, you'll still be fighting tooth and nail trying to claim that they looks somehow "worse"Shinobishyguy

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]doesn't matter if we do get great looking games, you'll still be fighting tooth and nail trying to claim that they looks somehow "worse"locopatho

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]doesn't matter if we do get great looking games, you'll still be fighting tooth and nail trying to claim that they looks somehow "worse"Shinobishyguy

[QUOTE="super600"]

I think need for speed most wanted U looks slightly better than literally all the 360/PS3 games from what I saw in pictures of the game.The earliest will be E3.

locopatho

Doesn't GT5 have ps2 textures in some areas?

The Wii U isn't about graphics. It's about having a system that can sell at a lower price point than the competition, can be different from the competition and have low development costs for Nintendo 1st party so they can spend the majority of time and resources on making the games fun to play. Love it or hate it that is their strategy and if graphics is a major concern the best option is a PC followed by PS4 and 720.

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="locopatho"] That's very unfair. I can only share my honest opinion. When WiiU gets a superior version (as in Ninja Gaiden, Need For Speed, and that downloadable game whose name escapes me) I admit it. When WiiU gets inferior versions (as in Mass Effect, Batman, etc), you should be able to do the same. Discussions based on reality are fun :)locopatho

Some troll was making the comparison and you were agreeing with him

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="super600"]

I think need for speed most wanted U looks slightly better than literally all the 360/PS3 games from what I saw in pictures of the game.The earliest will be E3.

super600

Doesn't GT5 have ps2 textures in some areas?

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]and yet we have you saying Skyward Sword looks worse than GTA san andreas :|Shinobishyguy

Some troll was making the comparison and you were agreeing with him

Either way you're never going to be able to make a straight comparison because nintendo games usually differ in terms of style's compared to other games like Uncharted and GearsShinobishyguy

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]Either way you're never going to be able to make a straight comparison because nintendo games usually differ in terms of style's compared to other games like Uncharted and Gearslocopatho

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]Either way you're never going to be able to make a straight comparison because nintendo games usually differ in terms of style's compared to other games like Uncharted and GearsShinobishyguy

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="locopatho"] What about Ratchet and Clank? Sly 4? Little Big Planet? Viva Pinata? Kameo? locopatho

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="locopatho"] I must disagree. Less detailed and vibrant. 3d Mario could beat it tho.locopatho

Hell it looks nothing like wiisports outside of the mii's.

All basic math in terms of comparing raw specs between Wii U and 360/PS3 I'd say November 18th 2012.

We don't have to wait at all. I think it looks better than a lot of PS2/Gamecude games

:cool:

I doubt Nintendo's temas even have the ability to push graphics. And if they did with the style of games they make they probably won't. That means they have to rely on third parties to push the hardware and since there isn't many left I doubt there will ever be a game that is better than Halo 4 or God of War.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"] less detailed because it's not using fur-shading everywhereShinobishyguy

Hell it looks nothing like wiisports outside of the mii's.

I doubt Nintendo's temas even have the ability to push graphics. And if they did with the style of games they make they probably won't. That means they have to rely on third parties to push the hardware and since there isn't many left I doubt there will ever be a game that is better than Halo 4 or God of War.

timbers_WSU

Iwata has said that people have certain expectations for some of their franchises in terms of graphics and gameplay(i.e Legend of zelda). Those games will be the ones that will push past the 360 and PS3 games in graphics eventually. The other games depending on the budget may or may not push past 360 or PS3 games in graphics.

We don't have to wait at all. I think it looks better than a lot of PS2/Gamecude games

:cool:

BPoole96

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] Ok? That Wii Sports simplicity styIe will never look all that impressive. More detail is impressive.locopatho

Hell it looks nothing like wiisports outside of the mii's.

Because you're going to be comparing games with simplistic colorful artstyles like mario to something like GoW, you're always going to make it look like the latter is better.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"] the miis don't look impressive, but the areas of the game have some really nice visuals that make them looks like they were all hand made and stitched together

Hell it looks nothing like wiisports outside of the mii's.

Shinobishyguy

Because you're going to be comparing games with simplistic colorful artstyles like mario to something like GoW, you're always going to make it look like the latter is better.

Btw Art-style/cell-shading etc >>>>>>>>>>> realistic graphics

If i want see realistic graphics i just go outside....

Btw Art-style/cell-shading etc >>>>>>>>>>> realistic graphics

 

aroxx_ab

Btw Art-style/cell-shading etc >>>>>>>>>>> realistic graphics

 

If i want see realistic graphics i just go outside....

aroxx_ab

Almost every Wii U multiplat looks better than the Last Gen Versions.faizan_faizan

need for speed on wii u uses better textures

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="locopatho"] It's a bit different but still very simplistic. That's fine, it works for the game. But it's clearly not as impressive as a Crysis or GOW game.locopatho

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]Almost every Wii U multiplat looks better than the Last Gen Versions.locopatho

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]Either way you're never going to be able to make a straight comparison because nintendo games usually differ in terms of style's compared to other games like Uncharted and Gearslocopatho

Actually yarn yoshi/whatever it's called looks pretty damn similar in style to little big planet now I think about it...

Comparing these two they seem to have similar styles (though I wouldn't use these two to compare between the two, I'm not exactly in the mood to go digging around for top quality screens of both ATM).

[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]

I doubt Nintendo's temas even have the ability to push graphics. And if they did with the style of games they make they probably won't. That means they have to rely on third parties to push the hardware and since there isn't many left I doubt there will ever be a game that is better than Halo 4 or God of War.

super600

Iwata has said that people have certain expectations for some of their franchises in terms of graphics and gameplay(i.e Legend of zelda). Those games will be the ones that will push past the 360 and PS3 games in graphics eventually. The other games depending on the budget may or may not push past 360 or PS3 games in graphics.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]and here's the root of it.Because you're going to be comparing games with simplistic colorful artstyles like mario to something like GoW, you're always going to make it look like the latter is better. Shinobishyguy

Well whenever Pikmin 3 come's out, for starter's.

Wii U is easily more than double 360's power in graphics and RAM, so don't worry, you'll have the oppurtunity to say it doesn't matter anyways once PS4 and next Xbox are out.

I guess some people will never realize Nintendo's console's are built for Nintendo alone, and 3rd party's can jump aboard only if they wish.  Wii U's hardware, it's built for Nintendo's studio's, with an ridiculous amount of custom hardware and fixed functions there specifically for Nintendo's own developers.  The power doesn't come from raw grunt, (Xbox) it come's from incredibly effecient custom design, of which only a select few will tap. (Gamecube)

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]Almost every Wii U multiplat looks better than the Last Gen Versions.faizan_faizan