How long do you believe that the PS3 anpi-piracy fortress will hold?

I say we will not see a single hacked PS3 (which can play copied BR games) before 2011...

dont know..depends on how many people are willing to buy blu-ray burners and the empty bluray disks for a game...taking the recession nowadays in mind, still quite far from now, imo

not till br writers are sub $100imprezawrx500

dont know..depends on how many people are willing to buy blu-ray burners and the empty bluray disks for a game...taking the recession nowadays in mind, still quite far from now, imo

Alias_nemesis

Does it matter?

Last i saw less than 1% of console players pirated games. No idea if that's still concrete but the number is very very minuscule.

Puckhog04

It'll hold for now, but not forever.

[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"]not till br writers are sub $100True_Gamer_

+1

this is how it works

Forever

if i remember correctly someone already copied a PS3 just the cost of doing it becuase BD drives and BD disc are still farily expensive that there is not gain to be made. i'd say towards the end of PS3 lifecycle will piracy become a tangible threat

probably forever, i'm pretty sure ps3 games are coded in a unique script, i think i heard the name LUAU somewhere? or maybe thats just SCE games.

[QUOTE="Alias_nemesis"]

dont know..depends on how many people are willing to buy blu-ray burners and the empty bluray disks for a game...taking the recession nowadays in mind, still quite far from now, imo

True_Gamer_

psx, saturn, dc, ps2, xbox, gc, 360, wii, ds, psp all hacked.

ps3 will happen some day its just a matter of time

[QUOTE="Alias_nemesis"]

dont know..depends on how many people are willing to buy blu-ray burners and the empty bluray disks for a game...taking the recession nowadays in mind, still quite far from now, imo

True_Gamer_

days? i can dl 25gig in around 3 hours

Does it matter?

Last i saw less than 1% of console players pirated games. No idea if that's still concrete but the number is very very minuscule.

And 25gig is with all languages into it... If they can hack the console, they'll probably do some ripped version of the games with english only.

I say we will not see a single hacked PS3 (which can play copied BR games) before 2011...

True_Gamer_

Just for the hilarious irony, I'll say not until after the PS4 is out. :P

With the cost it would take to do this (drive, discs) and the amount of time it would take (uploading, downloading), not for a long time. Plus any type of modification to the PS3 has the risk of bricking it, making it useless and void the warranty. In this time it just doesn't seem logical to risk.

With the cost it would take to do this (drive, discs) and the amount of time it would take (uploading, downloading), not for a long time. Plus any type of modification to the PS3 has the risk of bricking it, making it useless and void the warranty. In this time it just doesn't seem logical to risk.

SOedipus

It makes me wonder, with all the time and effort it taking them to hack the hardware...why don't they just buy the software?

[QUOTE="SOedipus"]

With the cost it would take to do this (drive, discs) and the amount of time it would take (uploading, downloading), not for a long time. Plus any type of modification to the PS3 has the risk of bricking it, making it useless and void the warranty. In this time it just doesn't seem logical to risk.

Lionheart08

It makes me wonder, with all the time and effort it taking them to hack the hardware...why don't they just buy the software?

if i remember correctly someone already copied a PS3 just the cost of doing it becuase BD drives and BD disc are still farily expensive that there is not gain to be made. i'd say towards the end of PS3 lifecycle will piracy become a tangible threat

Ragashahs

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"] Ya you know how much blank blu-rays costTrue_Gamer_

if i remember correctly someone already copied a PS3 just the cost of doing it becuase BD drives and BD disc are still farily expensive that there is not gain to be made. i'd say towards the end of PS3 lifecycle will piracy become a tangible threat

Ragashahs

Like this, good sir.

When blu ray and bluray writers become cost affetive.

P.S: i love how you seem to think you know the ""hacking"" community when you don't they could care less about prestige and prestiges comes with something used, hack something? and no one uses it? then you've failed the ps3 will get hacked when blu ray writers are cost affective, and when blu ray writable media becomes cost affective.

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="imprezawrx500"]not till br writers are sub $100z4twenny

+1

this is how it works

All so should add giving links to cheap media online and cheap writers is null since most pirates aren't hackers and will not know to look online they will go to their local wal-mart or bestbuy and get their discs and writers.

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

Does it matter?

Last i saw less than 1% of console players pirated games. No idea if that's still concrete but the number is very very minuscule.

Rza_rectah

Its a VERY reasonable number though. 100 million PS2's sold.So that would be a million hackers. Fair number (heck, a million is a lot!) I know it seems like "everyone does it", but I don't know anyone that does it for example.

[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

Does it matter?

Last i saw less than 1% of console players pirated games. No idea if that's still concrete but the number is very very minuscule.

Its a VERY reasonable number though. 100 million PS2's sold.So that would be a million hackers. Fair number (heck, a million is a lot!) I know it seems like "everyone does it", but I don't know anyone that does it for example.

I say we will not see a single hacked PS3 (which can play copied BR games) before 2011...

True_Gamer_

http://www.dailytech.com/bluray+encryption+defeated/article5795.htm

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/01/23/blu-ray_drm_cracked/

http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/17/blu-ray-movies-on-the-ps3-without-the-disc/

Ahhhh I love the hacking and modding comunity, they add so much more creativity to the world of consoles and pc's. I don't think the Ps3 will be widely hacked for some time, maybe another 2 years.

I have an eye on most of the big PS3 hack sites on the net. They've made a lot of progress with PS2 playback on the PS3. Sadly this is only for older console owners since the BC was taken out.

however most of them are so short on actual news they've been posting firmware updates and game patches.

The FARTHEST they've gotten into the PS3 is you can make it so the PS3 can play games online even if a new firmware is out. They've also dumped a game ISO and I think they MIGHT have managed to burn it but nobody can play it yet. except for people that have come across demo consoles. But these consoles aren't online ready...The ability to play burnt games is not worth not being able to play online.

Then of course through linux you're able to do some other game related things...NONE are PS3 related though.

i thought you could already hack it?

my friend has hacked it anyway, he has to put an image of the game on the ps3 hardrive though so its not very practical.

adizorz

Yes with playstation 2 game you can. PS3 games still dont work.

Personally im only waiting for them to make it possable to see custom firmwares. I don't care if I have to buy games.

Also for all the delusional people out there. the Xbox360 HAS NOT BEEN HACKED. You can play burned games. But that's as faar as it goes. they hacked the DVD drive. but the rest of the console is locked down as tight as the PS3.

Anybody who says otherwise is full of crap. bottom line, the PS3 is UNHACKABLE right now.

The PSP and PS3 use the same interface although one is more complex than the other. The reason the PSP was able to be hacked easily is because Sony released it with virtually no security so hackers could run their own software before updating their PSP since Sony had started to cover the holes. Another stupid mistake on Sony's part was giving the batteries memory of their own for the ability to talk to the PSP and tell what the battery life is at. This was a very exploitable feature and a simple Google search will show the possibilities of it. Sony learned from that and applied their knowledge to the PS3. Right from the get go the security is solid and becomes more solid with each firmware update meaning even if someone does hack it most people probably won't benefit unless they make down graders and the like which seems unlikely.

The possibilities with the PS3 are quite interesting. It could be used to play not only pirated PS3 games but PS2 and PS1 as well due to backwards compatbilitly. It's like how the PSP can run pirated PS1 games thanks to Sony's proprietary emulator which runs buttery smooth.

i would say around 2014 there will start being hacked/ pirated. soon enough there will start being blu ray burners. if that then people will start finding a way to hack it. there are more hacks and mods on the 360 then ps3. there are different cases and things for the 360.iam2green

There are already Bluray burner available to the public...

And as I said before the Xbox has not been hacked. Or at least the important part of it hasn't been. It's still not possable to create custom firmware for the 360. Therefore it's not been hacked. PS3 hackers aren't even bothering trying to get bluray ISO's to run. They want custom firmware. If you wanna playing burned games you're gona have to wait a long, long time.

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

I say we will not see a single hacked PS3 (which can play copied BR games) before 2011...

navyguy21

http://www.dailytech.com/bluray+encryption+defeated/article5795.htm

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/01/23/blu-ray_drm_cracked/

http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/17/blu-ray-movies-on-the-ps3-without-the-disc/

Lets just say by the time they figure it out PS4 will be out already and nobody will care anymore.angry_fork

[QUOTE="angry_fork"]Lets just say by the time they figure it out PS4 will be out already and nobody will care anymore.enygma500

[QUOTE="enygma500"]

[QUOTE="angry_fork"]Lets just say by the time they figure it out PS4 will be out already and nobody will care anymore.angry_fork

Or their old PS2 broke down due to the Mods. Or the laser burned out. lots of people who gamed last gen still haven't upgraded to the newer consoles.

YOU are the one who has no clue. Just because YOU don't know a person doesn't there isn't MILLIONS of people buying the old consoles for their capabilities.I personally know a LOT of people who use the PS2 and Xbox for it's homebrew and firmware.

Also PS2 has one of the best gaming libraries of any console to date. buying a PS2 right now is a smart idea. they're cheap, there's plenty of games and they're really good.

ALSO, in case you hadn't noticed we're in an economic recession. a loty of families can't afford to spend mroe then $100 for a game console right now.