How long is too long... trophy related..

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#1 dru26
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How long do you expect Sony to take to get this trophy fiasco straightened out? Personally, I'm not happy already, but making me wait a month would be unacceptable imo.
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#2 thrones
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I'm sure future games will have it, according to a Capcom press release they said something about future games have to have trophy support due to a contract. :|
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#3 CajunShooter
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Well all first party games for the end of the year.

What the hell is with the 1 and 2 weeks?

I say a couple months and you may see some people patch older games to give them trophy support, but other than that not until next year for a lot of third party games.

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#4 whodey8584
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Basically i think that every new game from here until the end of time will have trophy support. Now older games will be hit or miss. It just depends on if the developers feel like patching a game.
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#5 dru26
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Well all first party games for the end of the year.

What the hell is with the 1 and 2 weeks?

I say a couple months and you may see some people patch older games to give them trophy support, but other than that not until next year for a lot of third party games.

CajunShooter
I expect support for at least 3 or 4 games within the next two weeks, otherwise what was the point of even attempting to release the patch to begin with?
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#6 thrones
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[QUOTE="CajunShooter"]

Well all first party games for the end of the year.

What the hell is with the 1 and 2 weeks?

I say a couple months and you may see some people patch older games to give them trophy support, but other than that not until next year for a lot of third party games.

dru26
I expect support for at least 3 or 4 games within the next two weeks, otherwise what was the point of even attempting to release the patch to begin with?

Alot of PSN titles have trophies :P
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#7 CajunShooter
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[QUOTE="CajunShooter"]

Well all first party games for the end of the year.

What the hell is with the 1 and 2 weeks?

I say a couple months and you may see some people patch older games to give them trophy support, but other than that not until next year for a lot of third party games.

dru26

I expect support for at least 3 or 4 games within the next two weeks, otherwise what was the point of even attempting to release the patch to begin with?

Warhawk and Pain will be getting trophy support. I think Pain a ways before Warhawk though

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#8 ReverseCycology
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Sony gave us a list for confirmed trophy compatible games:

  • BUZZ! Quiz TV
  • LittleBigPlanet
  • MotorStorm Pacific Rift
  • NBA 09
  • PAIN
  • PixelJunk Eden
  • Resistance 2
  • SOCOM: Confrontation
  • Super Stardust HD
  • Warhawk

There's three games that's out now, SSHD, PAIN, and Warhawk, but only SSHD have trophies. I think if PAIN and Warhawk doesn't have trophies by the end of this E3 month, than that would be too long.

Also I'm not sure when BUZZ! Quiz TV, NBA 09, and PixelJunk Eden comes out, but if they come out and not trophy compatible, than you can say that's too long.

Same goes for LBP, MotorStorm PR, Resistance 2, and Socom. If they don't have trophies from the get go and you have to wait for a patch, then it's safe to say that trophies was a failure to launch.

Sony gave us a list to confirmed trophy compatible games. So if these games don't have trophies by 3 to 6 months, than that's too long, and is a failure.

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#9 thrones
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[QUOTE="dru26"][QUOTE="CajunShooter"]

Well all first party games for the end of the year.

What the hell is with the 1 and 2 weeks?

I say a couple months and you may see some people patch older games to give them trophy support, but other than that not until next year for a lot of third party games.

CajunShooter

I expect support for at least 3 or 4 games within the next two weeks, otherwise what was the point of even attempting to release the patch to begin with?

Warhawk and Pain will be getting trophy support. I think Pain a ways before Warhawk though

Warhawk is getting some retroactive trophies, due to the fact it already has an achievement like System built it.
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#10 dru26
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[QUOTE="dru26"][QUOTE="CajunShooter"]

Well all first party games for the end of the year.

What the hell is with the 1 and 2 weeks?

I say a couple months and you may see some people patch older games to give them trophy support, but other than that not until next year for a lot of third party games.

thrones
I expect support for at least 3 or 4 games within the next two weeks, otherwise what was the point of even attempting to release the patch to begin with?

Alot of PSN titles have trophies :P

I thought SSHD was the only game with functioning trophy support atm. I downloaded 2.4 before it went down. I've been waiting for the Warhawk patch, basically on the edge of my seat, I even downloaded the two expansions. I'm worried though, that because 2.4 was pulled we will have to wait a few weeks for the bugs to be fixed and then a few weeks longer to see a the first batch of trophy enabled games.
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#11 Arjdagr8
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so disapointed with trophies. two of my most anticipated games have already been released without trophy support. add to that the many other games that i have that wont have trophy support. wtf was the point in bringing it so late. i really doubt developers will put the effort in patching their games for the older ones.
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#12 ReverseCycology
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[QUOTE="thrones"]Alot of PSN titles have trophies :Pdru26
I thought SSHD was the only game with functioning trophy support atm. I downloaded 2.4 before it went down. I've been waiting for the Warhawk patch, basically on the edge of my seat, I even downloaded the two expansions. I'm worried though, that because 2.4 was pulled we will have to wait a few weeks for the bugs to be fixed and then a few weeks longer to see a the first batch of trophy enabled games.

Yeah he has no idea what he's talking about. Here are the only confirmed games with trophies announced:

  • BUZZ! Quiz TV
  • LittleBigPlanet
  • MotorStorm Pacific Rift
  • NBA 09
  • PAIN
  • PixelJunk Eden
  • Resistance 2
  • SOCOM: Confrontation
  • Super Stardust HD
  • Warhawk

SSHD,Warhawk, PAIN are the only PSN titles out now but only SSHD have trophies. You just gotta wait till the other confirmed trophy compatible games are patched. And a month for those confirmed games is too long.

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#13 Ze_ALEX
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i dont like this "having to do games over" to get the trophies
can't they just scan our game saves?
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#14 thrones
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i dont like this "having to do games over" to get the trophies
can't they just scan our game saves?Ze_ALEX
Alot of Game saves aren't person specific :|
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#15 roc321
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The sad part about this is that the wait is just building my anticipation. The longer the wait the higher the expectations and the bigger the dissapointment when there are too few games from the get-go.
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#16 ReverseCycology
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The sad part about this is that the wait is just building my anticipation. The longer the wait the higher the expectations and the bigger the dissapointment when there are too few games from the get-go.roc321

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#17 Ze_ALEX
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[QUOTE="Ze_ALEX"]i dont like this "having to do games over" to get the trophies
can't they just scan our game saves?thrones
Alot of Game saves aren't person specific :|


oh well, thats my disappointment with the trophy system
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#18 VoodooHak
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Define "straightened out". In my eyes, straightened out is when all games, old and new, support them. In that respect, it will never be straightened out.

At best, it will be at least a year before games consistently support it. Even then, I'm betting there will be an odd game here and there that won't have 'em. In the FAQ on the Playstation blog, the most they could say was that there were working with devs to encourage support for the trophies. That is NOT a declaration of it being mandatory.

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#19 thejakel11225
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I've already waited too long, why the hell did they release it with no support for anything??
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#20 CajunShooter
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I've already waited too long, why the hell did they release it with no support for anything??thejakel11225

Super Stardust has support and they are working on supporting 1st party games. Its up to 3rd party developers whether or not they want to make a patch and release trophies. Most will not.

Even most 1st party will not get patches. Hopefully Ratchet and Resistance will after R2 is done.

Kind of sad cause Sony said that to add trophies in a game takes just half a days worth of work to implement.

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#21 mlbslugger86
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those trophies look funny...

i don't wanna make no one mad...but that looks absolutely primitive

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#22 killerfist
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those trophies look funny...

i don't wanna make no one mad...but that looks absolutely primitive

mlbslugger86

they look almost the same as 360 achievements...

but anyway, I want trophy support for the games I allready have:( I'd love to see trophies for Ninja gaiden sigma, MGS4 and Uncharted.

oh well

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#23 TheKonspiracy
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i want every game on ps3 coming out during or after november this year to have trophies.
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#24 REforever101
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question. i know the update was taken down, but when can i expect it to be put back up

though, either way, i'll wait to see if the improved update still bricks ps3's before i update mine

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#25 TheKonspiracy
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question. i know the update was taken down, but when can i expect it to be put back up

though, either way, i'll wait to see if the improved update still bricks ps3's before i update mine

REforever101

apparently there's one coming this week, i think. i'll try and find the link.

EDIT: here's the link http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2008/07/07/sony-customer-support-says-2-41-coming-midweek/

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#26 mattzz10
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Why is it so hard for multiplatform game to add trophies when they already had to do the same thing for the xbox version?
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#27 masiisam
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I am still surprised that MGS4 did not support trophies from the start....Sony had to of gave them the 411 on what updates they were going to make...and being Sony's biggest hitter..seemed like a slam dunk...
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#28 REforever101
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I am still surprised that MGS4 did not support trophies from the start....Sony had to of gave them the 411 on what updates they were going to make...and being Sony's biggest hitter..seemed like a slam dunk...masiisam

perhaps, without the update, ps3's wouldnt know what to do with that data, and errors would occur

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#29 gensigns
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Kind of sad cause Sony said that to add trophies in a game takes just half a days worth of work to implement.

CajunShooter

Sony's said a lot of stupid things... why start believing them now?

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#30 Albanian_Killa
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I think it'll be like Rumble. Rumble was introduced quite fast. I think all games support it by now, and when it was released, many, many games supported it. I think in 3 months, we'll see Trophies become a standard. It may be that Sony won't force them on the developer, but the same went for Rumble and we saw what happened there. Developers want to make their products more attractive, so therefore, for all upcoming games, they will include as many features as possible. It's a shame 3rd party developers ditch titles after a while. Inifinty Ward stated they were done with Call of Duty 4, so that's why we won't see Rumble and Trophy support in it. It's sad to ditch your own game like that.
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#31 masiisam
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[QUOTE="masiisam"]I am still surprised that MGS4 did not support trophies from the start....Sony had to of gave them the 411 on what updates they were going to make...and being Sony's biggest hitter..seemed like a slam dunk...REforever101

perhaps, without the update, ps3's wouldnt know what to do with that data, and errors would occur

Thats true...I did not think of that...