How Long Until Sony Loses All Their Third Party Exclusives?

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#1 UnrealGunner
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With Yakuza and Valkyria Chronicles 4 recently being announced as multiplatform titles Sony is losing many of their Japanese third party exclusives including games such as Ni-Oh, Kingdom Hearts 3 and the Tales series. How long until we see Persona 5 also making their way over to PC and the Nintendo Switch? If FromSoftware makes another Bloodborne I highly doubt it will be an exclusive to Sony also. Sony's dominance over Japanese games and this is great for gamers.

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#2 Howmakewood
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Dont think Sony is too concerned about those going to PC, more against Xbox/Switch

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#3  Edited By AzatiS
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If they continute like this they WONT be in need for 3rd parties.

Joking, SONY is doing fine... actually beyond that so if few games become multis in the near future ... you know Sony will do something about it with a new aaa ip.

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#4 SecretPolice
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Late this week or early next week. :P

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#5 UnrealGunner
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@howmakewood: Sony is losing games too Xbox/Switch also Nier Automata, Kingdom Hearts 3 and Tales Series

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#6 lamprey263
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Well, one could survive off a gaming PC, so the argument goes. Honestly though the best Sony console exclusives are usually the third party stuff so if they needed just first party content to sell their system then that wouldn't be enough for me... then again I don't game on PC.

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#7 robert_sparkes
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Don't Sony own the Bloodborne rights it would be a huge loss if they didn't.

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#8 ni6htmare01
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I don’t think they oncern pc as much as switch and Xbox. On the other hand i’m Happy that games like Yakuza get more players so western release will get guaranteed.

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#9 Kusimeka
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Does it really matter? Sony had no say in these games being exclusive on PS4, that was their developers choice because of the severe advantage the PS4 has over the rest of the market. A lot of these developers are seeing the potential in the PC market, and that the PC market is more willing to purchase their games than they thought.

More people will now be able to play some great games? Sounds great to me.

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#10 deactivated-5b883bb846c10
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Bloodborne aint EVER going to Xbox. Lol. Sony OWNS the Ip.

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#11 darkzoomer
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Hopefully soon.

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#12 Ant_17
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They don't mind PC. Bone and Switch on the other hand...

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#13 shellcase86
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@SecretPolice said:

Late this week or early next week. :P

We can only hope!

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#14 2mrw
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@SecretPolice: in 3.. 2.. 1 :D

On topic, i was abt to make a thread on that. 3rd party exclusives are dead, brand loyalty is gone. As a ps4 fanboy, it is upsetting... I hope I dun come across like an a hole

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#15 Gdourado07
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If persona 5 makes it to the PC that would be really sweet!

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@Kusimeka said:

Does it really matter? Sony had no say in these games being exclusive on PS4, that was their developers choice because of the severe advantage the PS4 has over the rest of the market. A lot of these developers are seeing the potential in the PC market, and that the PC market is more willing to purchase their games than they thought.

More people will now be able to play some great games? Sounds great to me.

It does matter, a major reason why the PS2 was a huge hit was because of the massive catalog of third party exclusives it had. Just because Sony had no say in these games being exclusive doesn't mean they didn't welcome them with open arms because it is free promotion to motivate consumers to buy their consoles and it saves them millions of dollars in having to develop and market games to win people over. Sony doesn't own Persona but that didn't stop them making a P5 PS4 bundle because they know Persona 5 is a good game that can motivate people to get a PS4.

While PC may not be as much of a threat to the PS4 in taking its exclusives away, the Nintendo Switch definitely is since the Japanese audience is the main audience both the Switch and PS4 share. If the majority of Japanese games make it to the Switch it will definitely hurt PS4 sales in Japan especially since the Switch can still get its own Japanese third party exclusives due to developers taking advantage of its handheld features.

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#17 asylumni
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It will probably never happen completely as long as Sony puts out consoles, but it will be a rare exception for troubled ventures or commissioned projects (like Spiderman by Insomniac).

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#18 Nike_Air
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It might become an issue if all 3 other systems are getting the games day and date . But that doesn't seem to be the case. As it is , the PS4 remains the best all in one place for Japanese support. And that's a W.

And Sony owns the Bloodborne IP. And rumor has it pre-production started last year on Bloodborne II. Only time will tell.

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#20 deactivated-5e081d8b4abb0
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Glad I got a PC/PS4 Pro combo :)

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#21 deactivated-5e90a3763ea91
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I am kind of surprised that 3rd-party exclusives are still a thing, but it comes down to what's worth the cost.

The reason a lot of Japanese games are exclusive to Sony's platform probably has a lot to do with Sony being Japanese. The Japanese actually have some sense of national pride and identity. And for smaller teams that want to cut costs and develop for one system, PS4 is the default.

On the other hand, if an exclusive game is successful then any loyalty goes out the window, and they try to get that game or its sequel to as many platforms as possible.

I wasn't sure how I felt about timed exclusives at first, but I will say those seem effective. People are so fickle, timing and exposure can make all the difference.

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#22  Edited By deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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If FromSoftware makes another Bloodborne I highly doubt it will be an exclusive to Sony also.

*sigh, this again

Sony OWNS the Bloodborne trademark. A BB sequel would still be a PS exclusive if Sony wanted it. The best non-PS platforms can hope for is another IP just like what happened with Dark Souls (because Sony owns the Demon's Souls trademark) or soemthing souls like, like what we've seen of Sekiro

Bloodborne BLOODBORNE would still be a Sony owned IP

But yeah, if Sony doesnt own the IP (like with Persona 5 for ex) I can see it become multiplat sooner or later

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Don't Sony own the Bloodborne rights it would be a huge loss if they didn't.

They do. Just like they own Demon's Souls. TC is delusional

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#23 lundy86_4
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Atlus do seem very open to bringing to PC, and I think that's due to a large push for Japanese software on the platform this gen. Those aren't secured 3rd-party exclusives as far as I know, so it's really a non-issue.

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#24 tgob89
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lol what a delusional and ignorant thread.

@unrealgunner said:

... If FromSoftware makes another Bloodborne I highly doubt it will be an exclusive to Sony also...

PC gamers living in fantasyland in 2018 and still begging for our console exclusives damn.

#BeggarRace

FYI: The answer to your thread is, as long as Sony is in the console business, Never.

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#25 Pedro
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This is a major concern and extremely detrimental to Sony, after all gamers only games on the PS4 solely for exclusives otherwise they will play their games on PC. Everyone knows this. :)

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#26 tormentos
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@Pedro said:

This is a major concern and extremely detrimental to Sony, after all gamers only games on the PS4 solely for exclusives otherwise they will play their games on PC. Everyone knows this. :)

Like a glove..

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#27 ocinom
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Sega is porting console exclusives to the pc and not the x1 just goes to show how little Japanese devs like the xbox brand

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#28 sakaiXx
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Sony doesnt care on third party devs much anymore. They already let a huge amount of dev that used to solely release games on playstation to expand to other consoles like bandai namco "tales of", square "FF", koei tecmo "atelier". It hurts sony but unlike massive AAA games, these AA games runs identical on pc and ps4 and japanese game fans will buy a playstation even if the appears on pc because its where all jrpg and japanese game gathers.

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#29 Ant_17
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Bloodborne on PC

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#30  Edited By lundy86_4
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@Ant_17 said:

Bloodborne on PC

Shit would be amazing. If FS just fixed the framepacing, i'd love it. I wish they'd release a Pro update.

I still rank BB as one of FS' best.

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#31 Ant_17
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@lundy86_4 said:
@Ant_17 said:

Bloodborne on PC

Shit would be amazing. If FS just fixed the framepacing, i'd love it. I wish they'd release a Pro update.

I still rank BB as one of FS' best.

Didn't it get a PRO update?

And i love BB just for the setting and tone the game has.

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Pretty sure most of these games had no involvement from Sony and it was developer decision to make it exclusive since Xbox isn't worth the developing cost. At least early on. I am sure most of them will discover the Xbox is still ain't worth the cost.

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#33  Edited By lundy86_4
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@Ant_17 said:

Didn't it get a PRO update?

And i love BB just for the setting and tone the game has.

I booted it up about a week ago, and the frame-pacing just killed it. I've been playing DS with DSFix (30+ hrs) and now about 10-15hrs of Remastered and went back to BB, so it really killed it for me. I didn't notice a difference for Pro, but BB is way up there in terms of my favourites. Once I get used to it, i'll be okay... The shift was just jarring.

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#34 Pedro
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@k--m--k said:

Pretty sure most of these games had no involvement from Sony and it was developer decision to make it exclusive since Xbox isn't worth the developing cost. At least early on. I am sure most of them will discover the Xbox is still ain't worth the cost.

These systems are so similar that the cost for porting games are easier than it has ever been that smaller devs are able to make their games available across every platform.

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#35 j2zon2591
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Consistently I hope but I'm only thinking short sight to the possible benefits to a larger group.

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#36 Zaryia
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@tgob89 said:

lol what a delusional and ignorant thread.

@unrealgunner said:

... If FromSoftware makes another Bloodborne I highly doubt it will be an exclusive to Sony also...

PC gamers living in fantasyland in 2018 and still begging for our console exclusives damn.

#BeggarRace

FYI: The answer to your thread is, as long as Sony is in the console business, Never.

Well considering E3, and prior games, that "begging" is working. First place race.

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#37 daredevils2k
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About the same amount of time that PS4 loses against Xb1 world wide sold

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pc + ps + nintendo, the ultimate gaming room

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#39 UnrealGunner
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@tgob89 said:

lol what a delusional and ignorant thread.

@unrealgunner said:

... If FromSoftware makes another Bloodborne I highly doubt it will be an exclusive to Sony also...

PC gamers living in fantasyland in 2018 and still begging for our console exclusives damn.

#BeggarRace

FYI: The answer to your thread is, as long as Sony is in the console business, Never.

Bloodborne is coming to PC whether you like it or not. Demon's Souls is running at 60fps at 4K on PC something you peasants could only dream of.

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#40 DrSerigala
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@unrealgunner said:
@tgob89 said:

lol what a delusional and ignorant thread.

@unrealgunner said:

... If FromSoftware makes another Bloodborne I highly doubt it will be an exclusive to Sony also...

PC gamers living in fantasyland in 2018 and still begging for our console exclusives damn.

#BeggarRace

FYI: The answer to your thread is, as long as Sony is in the console business, Never.

Bloodborne is coming to PC whether you like it or not. Demon's Souls is running at 60fps at 4K on PC something you peasants could only dream of.

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#41  Edited By Blackhairedhero
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@unrealgunner: The Bloodborne IP is owned by Sony. It will stay exclusive. Its safe to say any IP Sony owns will stay exclusive. Any IP they do not own will go multiplat.

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#42  Edited By Blackhairedhero
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@drserigala: It still requires you to own a PS4 and a copy of the game.

Edit: Actually nvm.. that emulator isn't even real.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/6049ot/is_pcsx4_fake/

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too much beggars lately

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#44 UnrealGunner
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@drserigala: This is real? I never heard of PS4 emulator

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#45 Kali-B1rd
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You can already play Persona 5 on PC.

And Demon Souls!

Now to hide from the backlash!

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#46 rafaelmsoares
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With their 1st party output? I guess they aren't bothered

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@rafaelmsoares said:

With their 1st party output? I guess they aren't bothered

7 games in 5 years lol

such great output.

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#48 rafaelmsoares
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@kali-b1rd said:
@rafaelmsoares said:

With their 1st party output? I guess they aren't bothered

7 games in 5 years lol

such great output.

Sorry? In what world did Sony studios only release 7 games this generation? There's far more than 50 games developed by Sony owned studios or published by Sony. The delusion is real.

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#49  Edited By Kali-B1rd
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@rafaelmsoares said:
@kali-b1rd said:
@rafaelmsoares said:

With their 1st party output? I guess they aren't bothered

7 games in 5 years lol

such great output.

Sorry? In what world did Sony studios only release 7 games this generation? There's far more than 50 games developed by Sony owned studios or published by Sony. The delusion is real.

Sorry, lets rephrase.

6-7 "good" games that often get bragged about....

But hey, if you want to include detroit, be my guest :D, all it will do is highlight the hypocrisy of cows around here that stick thier nose up at A and AA games.

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#50  Edited By rafaelmsoares
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@kali-b1rd said:
@rafaelmsoares said:
@kali-b1rd said:
@rafaelmsoares said:

With their 1st party output? I guess they aren't bothered

7 games in 5 years lol

such great output.

Sorry? In what world did Sony studios only release 7 games this generation? There's far more than 50 games developed by Sony owned studios or published by Sony. The delusion is real.

Sorry, lets rephrase.

6-7 "good" games that often get bragged about....

But hey, if you want to include detroit, be my guest :D, all it will do is highlight the hypocrisy of cows around here that stick thier nose up at A and AA games.

Well... if we get down do games that end up being notorious the number of exclusives on PC the last 5 years would go down to 1-2 and on Xbox to 0. Sony is still on the lead

While we're at it... when did Cowa stick their noses up at A and AA games? Some of the more lauded games on the platform are exactly that... never heard of Persona 5, Journey and the like?