How long until the major third parties start abandoning PS3?

When Sony discontinues the PS3- soooo, not likely in the near future.

next year, a huge GC type bandwagon jump will happen.

PS3 sales have been disastrous all year. Month after month after month they're doing very poorly in Japan and N. America, and in Europe sales dried up soon after launch. What's even worse is the software attach rate - something like 1.3 games per console in N. America. With these kind of numbers, how long do you think the major third parties will go before dropping support? I think this Fall is Sony's last chance with the PS triple.Number_1_Gamer

With FF13 and DMC4 already coming to 360, i think PS3 has not got a lot of major 3rd party support left, only MGS4 still sands strong

[QUOTE="Number_1_Gamer"]PS3 sales have been disastrous all year. Month after month after month they're doing very poorly in Japan and N. America, and in Europe sales dried up soon after launch. What's even worse is the software attach rate - something like 1.3 games per console in N. America. With these kind of numbers, how long do you think the major third parties will go before dropping support? I think this Fall is Sony's last chance with the PS triple.greg_splicer

With FF13 and DMC4 already coming to 360, i think PS3 has not got a lot of major 3rd party support left, only MGS4 still sands strong

when was ff13 announce for 360 i miss that.

and yes mgs4 is the only one but kojima aint porting it so forget him.

PS3 sales have been disastrous all year. Month after month after month they're doing very poorly in Japan and N. America, and in Europe sales dried up soon after launch. What's even worse is the software attach rate - something like 1.3 games per console in N. America. With these kind of numbers, how long do you think the major third parties will go before dropping support? I think this Fall is Sony's last chance with the PS triple.Number_1_Gamer

LOL...

PS3 for March in Japan and NA - 265,098

Xbox 360 for March in Japan and NA - 216,003

I hate to tell you but although the PS3 is not a Wii in sales it is doing very well and this is being $200 dollars more then the competition and only having a handful of games compared to a console with a year and half worth of games.  What you need to realize is that as long as the PS3 is the only powerful system that sells well in Japan, no 3rd party will ditch Sony, at most the 360 will share some of Sonys 3rd party support.

As for the Wii, it is a very different console hardware and control wise and will not be taking games that had the PS3/360 in mind, but instead get games geared toward its audience and its different hardware. 

[QUOTE="Number_1_Gamer"]PS3 sales have been disastrous all year. Month after month after month they're doing very poorly in Japan and N. America, and in Europe sales dried up soon after launch. What's even worse is the software attach rate - something like 1.3 games per console in N. America. With these kind of numbers, how long do you think the major third parties will go before dropping support? I think this Fall is Sony's last chance with the PS triple.greg_splicer

With FF13 and DMC4 already coming to 360, i think PS3 has not got a lot of major 3rd party support left, only MGS4 still sands strong

PS3 sales have been disastrous all year. Month after month after month they're doing very poorly in Japan and N. America, and in Europe sales dried up soon after launch. What's even worse is the software attach rate - something like 1.3 games per console in N. America. With these kind of numbers, how long do you think the major third parties will go before dropping support? I think this Fall is Sony's last chance with the PS triple.Number_1_Gamer

let me check my calendar mmmmmm ok there is an opening on mmmmmmm WHEN HELL FREEZES OVER

there is life outside US ok 

Next week

PS3 sales have been disastrous all year. Month after month after month they're doing very poorly in Japan and N. America, and in Europe sales dried up soon after launch. What's even worse is the software attach rate - something like 1.3 games per console in N. America. With these kind of numbers, how long do you think the major third parties will go before dropping support? I think this Fall is Sony's last chance with the PS triple.Number_1_Gamer

A lot of the smaller independant companies have already abandoned the PS3. There were a lot of these companies for the PS2, especially later in the PS2 lifespan. Many of those companies are still making PS2 games and have no desire to jump on the PS3 bandwagon. Big name companies like Square, Konami, CapCom, Activision & EA will always make games for the PS3.

[QUOTE="Number_1_Gamer"]PS3 sales have been disastrous all year. Month after month after month they're doing very poorly in Japan and N. America, and in Europe sales dried up soon after launch. What's even worse is the software attach rate - something like 1.3 games per console in N. America. With these kind of numbers, how long do you think the major third parties will go before dropping support? I think this Fall is Sony's last chance with the PS triple.Javy03

LOL...

PS3 for March in Japan and NA - 265,098

Xbox 360 for March in Japan and NA - 216,003

I hate to tell you but although the PS3 is not a Wii in sales it is doing very well and this is being $200 dollars more then the competition and only having a handful of games compared to a console with a year and half worth of games.  What you need to realize is that as long as the PS3 is the only powerful system that sells well in Japan, no 3rd party will ditch Sony, at most the 360 will share some of Sonys 3rd party support.

As for the Wii, it is a very different console hardware and control wise and will not be taking games that had the PS3/360 in mind, but instead get games geared toward its audience and its different hardware. 

Not sure when,

but it's prob under discussion right now.

[QUOTE="Number_1_Gamer"]PS3 sales have been disastrous all year. Month after month after month they're doing very poorly in Japan and N. America, and in Europe sales dried up soon after launch. What's even worse is the software attach rate - something like 1.3 games per console in N. America. With these kind of numbers, how long do you think the major third parties will go before dropping support? I think this Fall is Sony's last chance with the PS triple.blackace

A lot of the smaller independant companies have already abandoned the PS3. There were a lot of these companies for the PS2, especially later in the PS2 lifespan. Many of those companies are still making PS2 games and have no desire to jump on the PS3 bandwagon. Big name companies like Square, Konami, CapCom, Activision & EA will always make games for the PS3.

The smaller companies are making games for the PS2 because its so cheap and has a large fanbase but where do u think those companies will go when the PS2 is dropped, to the 360???  I doubt that.  As for them leaving the PS3 isnt Little big planet made by a small dev company not owned by SOny, I could be mistaken.  Small dev companies will always support Sony especially the smaller Japanese devs that wouldnt dream of making games for the 360 and its tiny Japanese fanbase. 

[QUOTE="Javy03"]

[QUOTE="Number_1_Gamer"]PS3 sales have been disastrous all year. Month after month after month they're doing very poorly in Japan and N. America, and in Europe sales dried up soon after launch. What's even worse is the software attach rate - something like 1.3 games per console in N. America. With these kind of numbers, how long do you think the major third parties will go before dropping support? I think this Fall is Sony's last chance with the PS triple.DKII

LOL...

PS3 for March in Japan and NA - 265,098

Xbox 360 for March in Japan and NA - 216,003

I hate to tell you but although the PS3 is not a Wii in sales it is doing very well and this is being $200 dollars more then the competition and only having a handful of games compared to a console with a year and half worth of games. What you need to realize is that as long as the PS3 is the only powerful system that sells well in Japan, no 3rd party will ditch Sony, at most the 360 will share some of Sonys 3rd party support.

As for the Wii, it is a very different console hardware and control wise and will not be taking games that had the PS3/360 in mind, but instead get games geared toward its audience and its different hardware.

THose numbers are excluding a huge region called Europe.  I am not trying to say who will win, just educate the ignorant to the fact the PS3 is far from flopping. 

[QUOTE="greg_splicer"]

[QUOTE="Number_1_Gamer"]PS3 sales have been disastrous all year. Month after month after month they're doing very poorly in Japan and N. America, and in Europe sales dried up soon after launch. What's even worse is the software attach rate - something like 1.3 games per console in N. America. With these kind of numbers, how long do you think the major third parties will go before dropping support? I think this Fall is Sony's last chance with the PS triple.SpideR_CentS

With FF13 and DMC4 already coming to 360, i think PS3 has not got a lot of major 3rd party support left, only MGS4 still sands strong

It's already been confirmed that FF13 "is not exclusive to the PS3".  Meaning it's 99% likely to be going to 360.  Even the Wii has a severely downgraded shot. 

[QUOTE="SpideR_CentS"][QUOTE="greg_splicer"]

[QUOTE="Number_1_Gamer"]PS3 sales have been disastrous all year. Month after month after month they're doing very poorly in Japan and N. America, and in Europe sales dried up soon after launch. What's even worse is the software attach rate - something like 1.3 games per console in N. America. With these kind of numbers, how long do you think the major third parties will go before dropping support? I think this Fall is Sony's last chance with the PS triple.NocturnalDemon

With FF13 and DMC4 already coming to 360, i think PS3 has not got a lot of major 3rd party support left, only MGS4 still sands strong

It's already been confirmed that FF13 "is not exclusive to the PS3". Meaning it's 99% likely to be going to 360. Even the Wii has a severely downgraded shot.

99%, lol...how do you figure, it has NO Japanese fanbase which love FF games.  Also as for the FF13 games not being exclsuvie there are six games being made, two are for the PS3 and one for a mobile phone leaving three to go wherever and I see the Wii and DS getting one and maybe the PSP but I am not so sure about the 360.

I think you assume to much, Square is not much of a porting multiplat company.  They make games for particular consoles like last gen when the GC got one and that didnt mean that FFX or FFXII werent exclusive.

[QUOTE="NocturnalDemon"][QUOTE="SpideR_CentS"][QUOTE="greg_splicer"]

[QUOTE="Number_1_Gamer"]PS3 sales have been disastrous all year. Month after month after month they're doing very poorly in Japan and N. America, and in Europe sales dried up soon after launch. What's even worse is the software attach rate - something like 1.3 games per console in N. America. With these kind of numbers, how long do you think the major third parties will go before dropping support? I think this Fall is Sony's last chance with the PS triple.Javy03

With FF13 and DMC4 already coming to 360, i think PS3 has not got a lot of major 3rd party support left, only MGS4 still sands strong

It's already been confirmed that FF13 "is not exclusive to the PS3". Meaning it's 99% likely to be going to 360. Even the Wii has a severely downgraded shot.

99%, lol...how do you figure, it has NO Japanese fanbase which love FF games. Also as for the FF13 games not being exclsuvie there are six games being made, two are for the PS3 and one for a mobile phone leaving three to go wherever and I see the Wii and DS getting one and maybe the PSP but I am not so sure about the 360.

I think you assume to much, Square is not much of a porting multiplat company. They make games for particular consoles like last gen when the GC got one and that didnt mean that FFX or FFXII werent exclusive.

FFXI wasn't exclusive. The sales between consoles last gen aren't nearly as close as they are this gen. 

I am not sure where you are getting this 1.3 software rate.

According to this (vgchartz) in NA 

Hardware = 1,363,928

Software = 3,526,831

Rate =  2.58

 http://vgchartz.com/aweekly.php

Obviously this will be growing as we go along here.

[QUOTE="greg_splicer"]

[QUOTE="Number_1_Gamer"]PS3 sales have been disastrous all year. Month after month after month they're doing very poorly in Japan and N. America, and in Europe sales dried up soon after launch. What's even worse is the software attach rate - something like 1.3 games per console in N. America. With these kind of numbers, how long do you think the major third parties will go before dropping support? I think this Fall is Sony's last chance with the PS triple.SpideR_CentS

With FF13 and DMC4 already coming to 360, i think PS3 has not got a lot of major 3rd party support left, only MGS4 still sands strong

Latest news about FF13 confirmed NOT exclusive to PS3 anymore !!!

[QUOTE="SpideR_CentS"][QUOTE="greg_splicer"]

[QUOTE="Number_1_Gamer"]PS3 sales have been disastrous all year. Month after month after month they're doing very poorly in Japan and N. America, and in Europe sales dried up soon after launch. What's even worse is the software attach rate - something like 1.3 games per console in N. America. With these kind of numbers, how long do you think the major third parties will go before dropping support? I think this Fall is Sony's last chance with the PS triple.greg_splicer

With FF13 and DMC4 already coming to 360, i think PS3 has not got a lot of major 3rd party support left, only MGS4 still sands strong

Latest news about FF13 confirmed NOT exclusive to PS3 anymore !!!

FF13 or the FF13 universe? 

LOL...

PS3 for March in Japan and NA - 265,098

Xbox 360 for March in Japan and NA - 216,013

Javy03

Wait a second! How did you work that out?

PS3 for March in the US 130,000

PS3 has been selling about 14k (on average) a week in Japan. So roughly 56k for March.

That comes to 186k. That's less than the 360 did in just the US.

[QUOTE="greg_splicer"][QUOTE="SpideR_CentS"][QUOTE="greg_splicer"]

[QUOTE="Number_1_Gamer"]PS3 sales have been disastrous all year. Month after month after month they're doing very poorly in Japan and N. America, and in Europe sales dried up soon after launch. What's even worse is the software attach rate - something like 1.3 games per console in N. America. With these kind of numbers, how long do you think the major third parties will go before dropping support? I think this Fall is Sony's last chance with the PS triple.ramey70

With FF13 and DMC4 already coming to 360, i think PS3 has not got a lot of major 3rd party support left, only MGS4 still sands strong

Latest news about FF13 confirmed NOT exclusive to PS3 anymore !!!

FF13 or the FF13 universe? 

The Nova SERIES, meaning all games to all platfroms that make sense, the word NOT EXLUSIVE to PS3 is clear, it would be better if they said that the series went multiplatform, now they said that it is no longer exclusive to PS3, it is CLEAR that PS3 lost the game, FF13 is a certain bet for 360

Wii would be impossible, BUT there could be a PC version as well, now that would make Square a very rich company, no other game has that potential, only FF13, and thus it gets the multiplatform treatment

[QUOTE="Javy03"]

LOL...

PS3 for March in Japan and NA - 265,098

Xbox 360 for March in Japan and NA - 216,013

cakeorrdeath

Wait a second! How did you work that out?

PS3 for March in the US 130,000

PS3 has been selling about 14k (on average) a week in Japan. So roughly 56k for March.

That comes to 186k. That's less than the 360 did in just the US.

According to Media Creat the PS3 sold about 135k in Japan for March. 

[QUOTE="blackace"]

[QUOTE="Number_1_Gamer"]PS3 sales have been disastrous all year. Month after month after month they're doing very poorly in Japan and N. America, and in Europe sales dried up soon after launch. What's even worse is the software attach rate - something like 1.3 games per console in N. America. With these kind of numbers, how long do you think the major third parties will go before dropping support? I think this Fall is Sony's last chance with the PS triple.Javy03

A lot of the smaller independant companies have already abandoned the PS3. There were a lot of these companies for the PS2, especially later in the PS2 lifespan. Many of those companies are still making PS2 games and have no desire to jump on the PS3 bandwagon. Big name companies like Square, Konami, CapCom, Activision & EA will always make games for the PS3.

The smaller companies are making games for the PS2 because its so cheap and has a large fanbase but where do u think those companies will go when the PS2 is dropped, to the 360???  I doubt that.  As for them leaving the PS3 isnt Little big planet made by a small dev company not owned by SOny, I could be mistaken.  Small dev companies will always support Sony especially the smaller Japanese devs that wouldnt dream of making games for the 360 and its tiny Japanese fanbase. 

No. The PS3 Dev Kit costs almost 3 times as much as the XBox 360's dev kit. This is why most of these companies are making games for the PS2 still. Some are making 360 Arcade market games as well. There are already small companies making games for the XBox 360. It's much cheaper to do on the 360, then the PS3 and takes almost 1/2 the time.

According to Media Creat the PS3 sold about 135k in Japan for March. 

ramey70

Weird! That's a huge discrepancy with the weekly figures that get released. Do you have a link?

[QUOTE="ramey70"]

According to Media Creat the PS3 sold about 135k in Japan for March.

cakeorrdeath

Weird! That's a huge discrepancy with the weekly figures that get released. Do you have a link?

I jacked them from this thread .

[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="Javy03"]

LOL...

PS3 for March in Japan and NA - 265,098

Xbox 360 for March in Japan and NA - 216,013

ramey70

Wait a second! How did you work that out?

PS3 for March in the US 130,000

PS3 has been selling about 14k (on average) a week in Japan. So roughly 56k for March.

That comes to 186k. That's less than the 360 did in just the US.

According to Media Creat the PS3 sold about 135k in Japan for March. 

No, not even close. They were only selling about 15,000 a week. So probably 1/2 that amount at best.

next year, a huge GC type bandwagon jump will happen.

 -DarthVader-

I jacked them from this thread .

ramey70

Me being silly. I was thinking of the sales charts for April.

PS3 was selling much better in Japan last month.

[This message was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator]ramey70

Well it was just announced, a while back there were talks with ony, to make FF13 exclusive, they failed and they just went out and informed us of the news

its funny how 360 fans think PS3 selling disastrously even though its doing better then the 360, PS1&2 in the same time frame.AB_Uppercut

Not really. The difference is that the XBox 360 was no where to be found during the months of Jan, Feb & Mar when it launched, so the only reason XBox 360 sales are close to the PS3's at the same time period is because of shortages. The same thing can't be said for the PS3 as they had no shortages. If M$ had launched with more systems and had available systems during Jan, Feb & Mar, the sales figures would easily be 25-30% greater then what the PS3 as sold so far. People keep forgetting about these small details

The hate for the PS3 reminds me of the last Bush election. He called John Kerry a Flip Flopper so many times it didn't even matter if it was true anymore. Kerry became the flip flopper and there was no changing it.

PS3 haters are trying to do the same thing to the PS3, no matter how it does, they will stomp on it until all the lies become true. Its amazing, you people should work for Fox news.

It'll happen when the PS3 becomes obsolete. So... 10 Years!

What's the point of this thread? Some will go multiplat, but that's not really abandonment. Others will stay. Put your Ouija boards away and discuss what's happening now. 

Godstation 3 is immune to such trends. 8)

[QUOTE="AB_Uppercut"]its funny how 360 fans think PS3 selling disastrously even though its doing better then the 360, PS1&2 in the same time frame.blackace

Not really. The difference is that the XBox 360 was no where to be found during the months of Jan, Feb & Mar when it launched, so the only reason XBox 360 sales are close to the PS3's at the same time period is because of shortages. The same thing can't be said for the PS3 as they had no shortages. If M$ had launched with more systems and had available systems during Jan, Feb & Mar, the sales figures would easily be 25-30% greater then what the PS3 as sold so far. People keep forgetting about these small details

I don't know when shortages became a GOOD thing. I just got my PS3 today and it was nice to get one without any hassle. Wish I could get a Wii that easily.

[QUOTE="ramey70"]Can you link me to the official Gamespot page for FFXIII?greg_splicer

Well it was just announced, a while back there were talks with ony, to make FF13 exclusive, they failed and they just went out and informed us of the news

So we should expect to see the page any day now correct?  What about IGN, Gamepro, etc?  When should we see their FFXIII official 360 pages? 

Never?NobuoMusicMaker

I think people are confusing the 'main' FFXIII game with the series (Fabula Nova Crystallis.) Here is the actual quote from Motomu Toriyama of Square Enix. 

 "In fact, the Fabula Nova Crystallis Final Fantasy XIII project isn't just limited to three titles - there are many different aspects. In terms of the formats we're reaching, as well, it's not simply exclusive to the PS3 and mobile phones. There is more."jwmakoto

http://www.deeko.com/news/?p=721
He's talking about the entire project when he talks about it not being exclusive to PS3. This is not confirmation that the main game will be coming to anything other than PS3, as both XIII and XIII Versus have been in development for the PS3. This isn't to say that they couldn't be ported, people are starting to repeat things and twist what was actually said. 

The ONLY thing we know from this is that the project as a whole is not PS3 exclusive, which isn't big news. There is nothing in here that talks about the main FFXIII game going to any other systems, so just wait and see what happens before you make wild statements.

Well, the "not exclusive to PS3" statement is really obvious, there are TWO games in Nova series for PS3, so why did they not say simply that nova has other games for other platforms, but stated that the series is no longer exclusive to PS3 ???

It is clear, you just refuse to see it, unless it was a translation error and they never said "no longer exclusive to PS3" words