How long until the successor to the Wii launches?

omg really funny :(

2.5 years, making it about a 3 year introductory generation system aimed at proving a concept within the actual market and then generating a large name brand and consumer base for which to sell a future system in which more technology, development and improvements can be, at that time, reasonably invested.

EDIT: booyakasha

3-4 years imo. LINKloco

Same here 3-4 years.

Last gen lasted over 5 years!! The gen before that was longer i think! Why is everyone thinking the wii will be short lived?GanonBuRAP

I have no idea why people think this. I'm thinking the Wii lasts a minimum of 5 years.

2.5 years, making it about a 3 year introductory generation system aimed at proving a concept within the actual market and then generating a large name brand and consumer base for which to sell a future system in which more technology, development and improvements can be, at that time, reasonably invested.

EDIT: booyakashaMaTT2011

The DS was the same, yet it's still going strong.

R&D for a brand new machine costs too much. As long as the Wii continues to sell well, Nintendo won't release an update unless Sony and Microsoft prompt them to do so.

Last gen lasted over 5 years!! The gen before that was longer i think! Why is everyone thinking the wii will be short lived?GanonBuRAP

The PS2 is still going strong (2000-present). The N64 was like 1996-2000. The Gamecube was 2001-2006 and the last great game was Twilight Princess.

Last gen lasted over 5 years!! The gen before that was longer i think! Why is everyone thinking the wii will be short lived?GanonBuRAP

I dont think "short lived" is the way to describe it. And i also think it will be great if nintendo continues to do what they have been doing.

The wii wont go away; it will evolve. It will be Wii 2.0; a fully backwards compatible system (Wii, Gc, VC) with improved motion controls (for wii2 specific games) and vastly improved visual capabilities for around 250-300 bucks (max) and because Wii 1 will be "short lived" it will be able to undercut the competition with a new system that does all the things the wii did but with even better graphics and a cheaper pricetag than that of the competitors (which will then be ps2 and 360, still).

Because Wii 1.0 is a proof of concept product and because its done so ridiculously well it would be smart of nintendo do capitalize and literally crush the competition and still retain its consoles consumer base (those who signed on for wii 1 who will get to play all their wii games on wii2 and spend around the same amount of money for a better product).

But thats just one theory....

[QUOTE="MaTT2011"]

2.5 years, making it about a 3 year introductory generation system aimed at proving a concept within the actual market and then generating a large name brand and consumer base for which to sell a future system in which more technology, development and improvements can be, at that time, reasonably invested.

EDIT: booyakashamjarantilla

The DS was the same, yet it's still going strong.

R&D for a brand new machine costs too much. As long as the Wii continues to sell well, Nintendo won't release an update unless Sony and Microsoft prompt them to do so.

That is a good point. And i think thats the way things will go if the wii continues to sell this well.

R&D is expensive; but what if it was just a matter of increasing hardware capability within the confines of the current architecture so as to allow backwards compatibility like they did with GC to Wii?
But i really dont know how plausible that possibility is; just because they did it once does it mean they can do it again. BUt then again technology is a crazy thing.

[QUOTE="GanonBuRAP"]Last gen lasted over 5 years!! The gen before that was longer i think! Why is everyone thinking the wii will be short lived?MaTT2011

I dont think "short lived" is the way to describe it. And i also think it will be great if nintendo continues to do what they have been doing.

The wii wont go away; it will evolve. It will be Wii 2.0; a fully backwards compatible system (Wii, Gc, VC) with improved motion controls (for wii2 specific games) and vastly improved visual capabilities for around 250-300 bucks (max) and because Wii 1 will be "short lived" it will be able to undercut the competition with a new system that does all the things the wii did but with even better graphics and a cheaper pricetag than that of the competitors (which will then be ps2 and 360, still).

Because Wii 1.0 is a proof of concept product and because its done so ridiculously well it would be smart of nintendo do capitalize and literally crush the competition and still retain its consoles consumer base (those who signed on for wii 1 who will get to play all their wii games on wii2 and spend around the same amount of money for a better product).

But thats just one theory....

I agree, the Wii is only a concept machine for the Wiimote. Minimal R&D investment for maximum potential benefit. But, that doesn't mean Nintendo will end it early. It's not a good idea for the Wii2.0 to be released too early compared to the PS4 or X720 (or whatever MS will call the next Xbox), because it probably won't look much better than the PS3/360, and will be seen as even MORE outdated when the PS4/720 come out because it'll be a couple of years older.

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="MaTT2011"]

2.5 years, making it about a 3 year introductory generation system aimed at proving a concept within the actual market and then generating a large name brand and consumer base for which to sell a future system in which more technology, development and improvements can be, at that time, reasonably invested.

EDIT: booyakashaMaTT2011

The DS was the same, yet it's still going strong.

R&D for a brand new machine costs too much. As long as the Wii continues to sell well, Nintendo won't release an update unless Sony and Microsoft prompt them to do so.

That is a good point. And i think thats the way things will go if the wii continues to sell this well.

R&D is expensive; but what if it was just a matter of increasing hardware capability within the confines of the current architecture so as to allow backwards compatibility like they did with GC to Wii?
But i really dont know how plausible that possibility is; just because they did it once does it mean they can do it again. BUt then again technology is a crazy thing.

They really cannot continue to rely on the old architecture and hope to compete with 2012-era consoles. This generation, sure, they can do that, because the old architecture was still capable enough that a clock update could produce tangible benefits. But I think the Wii comes close to maxing out what the old fixed architecture could do.

They can stay a generation behind in terms of graphics architecture, though. So, probably the Wii 2.0 will use a GPU that is about equivalent to DirectX 9.0c.

[QUOTE="MaTT2011"]

[QUOTE="GanonBuRAP"]Last gen lasted over 5 years!! The gen before that was longer i think! Why is everyone thinking the wii will be short lived?mjarantilla

I dont think "short lived" is the way to describe it. And i also think it will be great if nintendo continues to do what they have been doing.

The wii wont go away; it will evolve. It will be Wii 2.0; a fully backwards compatible system (Wii, Gc, VC) with improved motion controls (for wii2 specific games) and vastly improved visual capabilities for around 250-300 bucks (max) and because Wii 1 will be "short lived" it will be able to undercut the competition with a new system that does all the things the wii did but with even better graphics and a cheaper pricetag than that of the competitors (which will then be ps2 and 360, still).

Because Wii 1.0 is a proof of concept product and because its done so ridiculously well it would be smart of nintendo do capitalize and literally crush the competition and still retain its consoles consumer base (those who signed on for wii 1 who will get to play all their wii games on wii2 and spend around the same amount of money for a better product).

But thats just one theory....

I agree, the Wii is only a concept machine for the Wiimote. Minimal R&D investment for maximum potential benefit. But, that doesn't mean Nintendo will end it early. It's not a good idea for the Wii2.0 to be released too early compared to the PS4 or X720 (or whatever MS will call the next Xbox), because it probably won't look much better than the PS3/360, and will be seen as even MORE outdated when the PS4/720 come out because it'll be a couple of years older.

Yah, i would agree with the 'nintendo lettin the party rage' idea, why stop the fun? But what if things start to taper off and the technology in 2.5 years is such that HD TV's are all the rage, in most households, and hi-def media is actually cheap enough to produce and get into peoples homes that the wii, at that point in time, becomes viewed in a less than favorable light by consumers?

All of this, of course, depends on many circumstances that we probably cant anticipate in any given discussion. But how much if any weight should be given to this march of technology, its effect on consumer buying habits, and the success of hi definition digital media? If its as i described then we can give alot of weight to those things........but if its not then things are going to be looking good for nintendo as far as how things are currently going is concerned.

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="MaTT2011"]

[QUOTE="GanonBuRAP"]Last gen lasted over 5 years!! The gen before that was longer i think! Why is everyone thinking the wii will be short lived?MaTT2011

I dont think "short lived" is the way to describe it. And i also think it will be great if nintendo continues to do what they have been doing.

The wii wont go away; it will evolve. It will be Wii 2.0; a fully backwards compatible system (Wii, Gc, VC) with improved motion controls (for wii2 specific games) and vastly improved visual capabilities for around 250-300 bucks (max) and because Wii 1 will be "short lived" it will be able to undercut the competition with a new system that does all the things the wii did but with even better graphics and a cheaper pricetag than that of the competitors (which will then be ps2 and 360, still).

Because Wii 1.0 is a proof of concept product and because its done so ridiculously well it would be smart of nintendo do capitalize and literally crush the competition and still retain its consoles consumer base (those who signed on for wii 1 who will get to play all their wii games on wii2 and spend around the same amount of money for a better product).

But thats just one theory....

I agree, the Wii is only a concept machine for the Wiimote. Minimal R&D investment for maximum potential benefit. But, that doesn't mean Nintendo will end it early. It's not a good idea for the Wii2.0 to be released too early compared to the PS4 or X720 (or whatever MS will call the next Xbox), because it probably won't look much better than the PS3/360, and will be seen as even MORE outdated when the PS4/720 come out because it'll be a couple of years older.

Yah, i would agree with the 'nintendo lettin the party rage' idea, why stop the fun? But what if things start to taper off and the technology in 2.5 years is such that HD TV's are all the rage, in most households, and hi-def media is actually cheap enough to produce and get into peoples homes that the wii, at that point in time, becomes viewed in a less than favorable light by consumers?

All of this, of course, depends on many circumstances that we probably cant anticipate in any given discussion. But how much if any weight should be given to this march of technology, its effect on consumer buying habits, and the success of hi definition digital media? If its as i described then we can give alot of weight to those things........but if its not then things are going to be looking good for nintendo as far as how things are currently going is concerned.

If that happens, Nintendo would still be best advised not to release a successor to the Wii until Sony and Microsoft are preparing their successor consoles. I can see Nintendo being the first to market the next time, though, launching a year ahead the way the PS2 launched a year ahead of the Xbox/GCN, and the way the 360 launched a year ahead of the PS3/Wii. That way, they can take advantage of both situations: replace the Wii before it gets too outdated, and still be considered a legitimate part of the next generation.

Launching a new console any more than a year and a half ahead of the PS4/X720 would be suicide, IMO. Four years is the minimum console lifespan (the Xbox's lifespan was four years: 2001 to 2005). Five years is ideal for this generation. I can see the 360 and PS3 going on to 6 or even 7 years, but that's ONLY if their sales catch up to the Wii. If the Wii continues to outsell them, Microsoft and/or Sony may try to start the next race as early as 2010.

I think Nintendo will have total control over when they decide to replace the Wii. This could mean that the Wii's lifespan could be considerably longer than what most people will give it credit for.

Though whatever the next Nintendo System is I suspect it will be 100% backwards compatable with the Wii, retaining all the Wii channels, Miis, so on, so forth. It could even be an attachment for the Wii itself, or purchased as a seperate unit altogether including the functionality of the Wii + whatever enhancements.

Heck, the next thing could just be an upgraded Wiimote and the system remains unchanged.

Not being rude but you sheep really need to face facts.

Wii= short term

Not being rude but you sheep really need to face facts.

Wii= short term

miss_kitt3n

That's correct. And short term = 5 years.

Not being rude but you sheep really need to face facts.

Wii= short term

miss_kitt3n

Power =/= lifespan

In fact it was the complete opposite order last gen

Last gen lasted over 5 years!! The gen before that was longer i think! Why is everyone thinking the wii will be short lived?GanonBuRAP

the ps2 still out sells the x360 and is far from dead

Not for another 4 years at least, but I do think Nintendo will do it before Sony/MS.

We just gotta wait and see. There's no reason to discontinue the Wii if it continues to sell, and they don't want to push consumers away by making a new console too soon.