How long until Xbox's new first party gives us quality exclusives?

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#1 SolidGame_basic
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It seems like since MS bought these companies only recently, it may be a while until we see some quality first party content from them. With next gen coming up soon, do you think they will make it in time to show case the new system? MS does have Halo and Gears to fall back on, but I don't know how much of an effect those games will have in the new gen.

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#2 robert_sparkes
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I'm thinking mid generation it's taken naughty dog a long time time to get the quality.

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#3 2Chalupas
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I would assume they are holding back for next gen launch. So whenever that stuff starts getting announced.

Of course I'm not yet convinced they are going to have a bunch of new AAA IP's or anything. Many of these are smaller studios. But I'm sure they will have at least 1 or 2 IP's, and of course Halo and Forza. Probably sprinkled in with some indie type games.

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#4 DrLostRib
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Technically they already have since MS announced purchasing Playground Games at E3

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#5 robert_sparkes
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I don't expect playground or the initiatives games to come until at least mid gen maybe longer. MS need to target AAA quality.

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#7 speedfreak48t5p
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2 weeks ago.

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#8 DaVillain  Moderator
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When the new next-gen Xbox (Scarlet) console arrives and then, we'll start seeing new Xbox 1st quality exclusives since they have been busy purchasing new studios after all.

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#9 mobius_basic
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I don't think we are going to see anything worth while in a long time hate to say it but probably not even this gen. I love my XoX but its not the box I turn on when I want to play an exclusive and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

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#10 MonsieurX
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How long until cows stop wondering about a console they don't own

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#11 Fedor
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@MonsieurX: How long until you realize you're on system wars and thats what people do here?

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#12 Archangel3371
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It already happened.

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#13  Edited By Sevenizz
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People love to forget that it took sony over two years for the ps4 to get a decent exclusive - and even that’s debatable as they were niche japanese games or qte movies. Their fanboys just shrugged it off as ‘well, we have 1080p’ on a few multiplats. In fact, some of those 1080p games suffered in other performance to make this claim. They were even proven to have lied about one of their titles to be native 1080p when it wasn’t.

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#14 Fedor
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@Sevenizz: Ps4 had Bloodborne less than 2 years after release. Xboxone hasn't released anything close to as good in its lifetime.

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#15 Sevenizz
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@fedor: That’s strictly anicdotal. Xbox had already launched Titanfall and that was also a critical hit.

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#16 Pedro
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@MonsieurX said:

How long until cows stop wondering about a console they don't own

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#17 Pedro
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@fedor said:

@Sevenizz: Ps4 had Bloodborne less than 2 years after release. Xboxone hasn't released anything close to as good in its lifetime.

You left out "IMO".

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#18 deactivated-5ebd39d683340
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Launch date of Scarlet, with then a roadmap announced for 2 years after. There are so many games in my backlog honestly that I personally have enough with the upcoming Metro Exodus, Cyberpunk 2077, Assassin's Creed Odyssey, Anthem and Red Dead Redemption 2. Those are all huge games that will last me for the coming years. Maybe I am not hardcore enough to want to buy new titles every month I guess.

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#19 Fedor
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@Sevenizz: Lol Titanfall wasn't an xbox exclusive. It's also a forgotten title and now a dead franchise. Meanwhile people pine for BB2 daily and was a far larger critical success.

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#20 Fedor
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@Pedro: Nope, I'm good with my original statement, thanks tho.

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#21 Pedro
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@fedor said:

@Pedro: Nope, I'm good with my original statement, thanks tho.

But its an incorrect statement. I guess you just like being wrong. :)

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#22  Edited By Fedor
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@Pedro: I'm not wrong tho. You being butthurt won't change that. I also noticed you didn't take any issue with 7tizz's inaccurate posts, you must like being transparently biased.

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#23 deactivated-5f4e2292197f1
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No one knows if it pays off this generation, but it this generation is basically over, and we know for a fact all these studios are gonna make next generation better. Go ahead and hate on the One, but don't hate on Xbox and it's future.

Clearly MS is 100x cooler than they were in 2013. They've done so many internal shifts, its not even the same company as it was back then, ran by idiots.

I'm a Phil Spencer fanboy, but thats cause he's only done amazing things since Holiday 2015, people were fanboys of Kaz or Iwata, cause they always brought good news to their fans. So as long as I've had Xbox, its only got better.

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#24 babyjoker1221
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@fedor: Nothing wrong with having differing opinions, but your opinion is no more valid than anyone else's.

Titan fall was a success that immediately got a sequel greenlit. Bloodborn is a reskinned Souls game. Deal with it.

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#25 Fedor
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@babyjoker1221: Titanfall is a dead franchise, deal with it. Also never an exclusive, deal with it. My statement stands as fact, you'll just have to deal.

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#26 rzxv04
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2019 maybe. I can wait.

Tbh I can wait for decades if MS keeps releasing it on PC as well. Might have to save some for a new rig depending on how next gen's mid gen refresh goes.

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#27  Edited By Sevenizz
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@fedor: Titanfall & Bloodborne sold roughly 3 million units on the X1 & ps4 respectively. Given the ps4 has almost double the amount of consoles in the wild means the X1 version has a higher attachment. Therefore, a much greater success.

Regardless of who’s ‘pining’ away for a BB sequel, Titanfall has already had one so your point is moot.

Care to be incorrect about something else?

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#28 Fedor
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@Sevenizz: Titanfall isn't exclusive. You wasted your time writing that invalid post.

Ps: gonna need a link to those Bloodborne sales, bro.

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#29  Edited By Sevenizz
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@fedor: It’s exclusive enough. What happens when you put that disc into a ps4? Nothing.

ps: vgchartz.com You may like that site - they’re pro sony

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#30 lundy86_4
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@Sevenizz said:

@fedor: It’s exclusive enough. What happens when you put that disc into a ps4? Nothing.

ps: vgchartz.com You may like that site - they’re pro sony

Just a piece of advice.. VGChartz has been ridiculed here for years...

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#31 Shewgenja
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If MS is smart, theyd end this generation on a high note and build good will for their brand before Scarlet launches. If they are cheap opportunists, they will try to front load the Scarlet launch and leave us all scratching our heads as to whether they have bolstered quality control as a publisher until after the fact.

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#32  Edited By Fedor
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@Sevenizz: Lol vgchartz? This is just getting embarrassing for you. Furthermore, if you want to start claiming games that just aren't on opposing consoles as exclusives this conversation will get a whole lot worse for you.

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#33 DrLostRib
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@fedor said:

@babyjoker1221: Titanfall is a dead franchise, deal with it. Also never an exclusive, deal with it. My statement stands as fact, you'll just have to deal.

didn't Respawn say they were working on more Titanfall after EA bought them?

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#34 Sevenizz
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@lundy86_4: And they ridicule big marketing sites like this. While it’s not my go to site, it’s what I know as a 3rd party sales calculator.

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#35 Fedor
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@drlostrib: Been a year and nobodies seen or heard a peep about it.

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#36 Fedor
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@Sevenizz: They don't have digital sales numbers, do estimates on physical, and is a site that you yourself have already attacked the credibility of... Your link is even more trash than your argument.

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#38 hrt_rulz01
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@MonsieurX said:

How long until cows stop wondering about a console they don't own

Lol, good question.

Anyway, I think we'll start seeing the new studios bearing fruit a year or so into "next gen". The studio that's probably furthest out from release is The Initiative, you'd assume, since they are still on a hiring spree. I expect we'll see Playgrounds' new game (Fable?) maybe 2020/2021, same with Ninja Theory. Compulsion is still probably at least 3-4 years away since they just released We Happy Few. Undead Labs will probably release a more fleshed-out State of Decay 3, maybe in 3 years or so. The Coalition will obviously work on Gears 6, which will probably release in 2021, but I have a feeling that they are working on something else too.

The big question for me is when Halo Infinite will release. I wouldn't be surprised if it released alongside Xbox Scarlett, in 2020 (and of course release on current systems too).

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@Sevenizz said:

@fedor: Titanfall & Bloodborne sold roughly 3 million units on the X1 & ps4 respectively. Given the ps4 has almost double the amount of consoles in the wild means the X1 version has a higher attachment. Therefore, a much greater success.

Regardless of who’s ‘pining’ away for a BB sequel, Titanfall has already had one so your point is moot.

Care to be incorrect about something else?

Remember according the lemmings, if a game comes out on the PC it's exclusive to Xbox because... well I don't even know.

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#40 Epak_
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@robert_sparkes said:

I don't expect playground or the initiatives games to come until at least mid gen maybe longer. MS need to target AAA quality.

Mid gen? We're way over that.

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#41 sakaiXx
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@robert_sparkes said:

I'm thinking mid generation it's taken naughty dog a long time time to get the quality.

Glad Naughty dog finally found their Mojo in ps1 era. Prior is not good for them

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#42 Zappat
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I predict after 3 cancellations and 4 delays we'll see the first AAA from MS on 2025 but it will be sadly an unfinished mess so they'll close the studio.

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#43  Edited By Sada1091
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@fedor:Bloodborne is hot garbage that runs at 15 fps, just play Dark Souls, same thing different coat of paint. Factually speaking

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#44 Sada1091
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@zappat: I predict 50 million bricked PS4's by the end of the month, followed by your parents wishing they had an abortion

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#45 Zappat
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@sada1091: That gave you so much butthurt, an alt spawned out of your ass and went full meltdown lol

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#46 scatteh316
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More then likely next gen launch titles or close as...... but....why is everyone assuming these studio's have nothing?

Gorilla Games developed Horizon:ZD along side Killzone:SF so what makes people think these studio's wasn't already working on something?

They very well could of pitched a working game to Microsoft for all we know.

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#47 SecretPolice
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@MonsieurX said:

How long until cows stop wondering about a console they don't own

That's the question for the ages. MS/Xbox lives in their head, 24/7, rent free. :P

OT, PG just launched the ROAT, FH4. :D

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#48  Edited By xantufrog  Moderator
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AAA games take a long time to develop these days. It's a safe bet on a "big budget" game taking 3 years or more from inception. This would suggest these studios will start to bear fruit "mid gen". That being said, that assumes they aren't using existing ideas and assets - which they might opt to do. Or, they might even be working on a game at the time of MS acquisition. In fact, I'd say that is likely. So it is possible some of,the new hires will have a game ready for or near launch

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@fedor said:

@Sevenizz: Ps4 had Bloodborne less than 2 years after release. Xboxone hasn't released anything close to as good in its lifetime.

Sunset Overdrive came out in the first year of the Xbox One didn't it?

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#50  Edited By Fedor
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@Fuhrer_D: Dont know, nobody played it hence they can't even get a sequel green lit. Are you implying that it is anywhere near the quality of BB?