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#1 momentum_god
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Pretty much every year MS shows a ton of multiplats and pretend they are exclusive, and this year is particularly weak in terms of exclusives and it seems child of eden (A tripy looking simple rail shooter) is the best they can do with kinect in terms of advertising so it stands to reason they will be showing alot of multiplats, I'm guessing 4 or 5 what do you think

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#2 i5750at4Ghz
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Pretty much every year MS shows a ton of multiplats and pretend they are exclusive, and this year is particularly weak in terms of exclusives and it seems child of eden (A tripy looking simple rail shooter) is the best they can do with kinect in terms of advertising so it stands to reason they will be showing alot of multiplats, I'm guessing 4 or 5 what do you think

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If you mean console exclusives, not many 3 or 4.
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#3 Bigboi500
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I expect their announced game line-up to be roughly 70% Kinect games, 28% multiplats, and 2% non-Kinect exclusives.

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#4 momentum_god
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[QUOTE="momentum_god"]

Pretty much every year MS shows a ton of multiplats and pretend they are exclusive, and this year is particularly weak in terms of exclusives and it seems child of eden (A tripy looking simple rail shooter) is the best they can do with kinect in terms of advertising so it stands to reason they will be showing alot of multiplats, I'm guessing 4 or 5 what do you think

i5750at4Ghz
If you mean console exclusives, not many 3 or 4.

No I mean ps3/360, and possibly pc too
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#7 momentum_god
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I expect their announced game line-up to be roughly 70% Kinect games, 28% multiplats, and 2% non-Kinect exclusives.

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Kinect games and multiplats should have some over-lap (child of eden..)
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#8 i5750at4Ghz
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="momentum_god"]

Pretty much every year MS shows a ton of multiplats and pretend they are exclusive, and this year is particularly weak in terms of exclusives and it seems child of eden (A tripy looking simple rail shooter) is the best they can do with kinect in terms of advertising so it stands to reason they will be showing alot of multiplats, I'm guessing 4 or 5 what do you think

momentum_god
If you mean console exclusives, not many 3 or 4.

No I mean ps3/360, and possibly pc too

Then like 20-30.
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#9 TheEpicGoat
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COD is pretty much expected

Uhm insomniac might show their multiplat

Probably FFvs

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#10 momentum_god
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COD is pretty much expected

Uhm insomniac might show their multiplat

Probably FFvs

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Not really convinced on the whole FFvs going to be multiplat, it's an action rpg not a turn based, much harder to port mid development
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#11 TheAcountantMan
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MW3 timed DLC :lol:
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#12 Phazevariance
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[QUOTE="TheEpicGoat"]

COD is pretty much expected

Uhm insomniac might show their multiplat

Probably FFvs

momentum_god

Not really convinced on the whole FFvs going to be multiplat, it's an action rpg not a turn based, much harder to port mid development

Right, because the crystal engine is already multiplat and porting 'game code' is just not possible... mid development. Oh wait, its actually only graphics engines that are hard to port... wait, crystal is on both consoles? ... oh so it CAN be ported with the greatest of ease...(doesn tmean it will; means it can)

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#13 JAB991
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They were pretty good about showing exclusives last year, IIRC. Keep in mind that it's a MS event and not a 360 event, meaning the games shown may well be on both the 360 and the PC.
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#14 TheEpicGoat
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They were pretty good about showing exclusives last year, IIRC. Keep in mind that it's a MS event and not a 360 event, meaning the games shown may well be on both the 360 and the PC. JAB991

Forgot about that so they might show XCOM aswell

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#15 momentum_god
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[QUOTE="momentum_god"][QUOTE="TheEpicGoat"]

COD is pretty much expected

Uhm insomniac might show their multiplat

Probably FFvs

Phazevariance

Not really convinced on the whole FFvs going to be multiplat, it's an action rpg not a turn based, much harder to port mid development

Right, because the crystal engine is already multiplat and porting 'game code' is just not possible... mid development. Oh wait, its actually only graphics engines that are hard to port... wait, crystal is on both consoles? ... oh so it CAN be ported with the greatest of ease...(doesn tmean it will; means it can)

You are forgetting about the massive differences in ps3 and 360 architect, a turn based isn't that big of a deal because it isn't that cpu heavy, a action rpg on the other hand has to handle all the AI's visible at once in real time
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#16 momentum_god
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They were pretty good about showing exclusives last year, IIRC. Keep in mind that it's a MS event and not a 360 event, meaning the games shown may well be on both the 360 and the PC. JAB991
Last year was like MSes strongest year gamewise and it still only tied Sony who was having a particularly bad year lol and now the roles are reversed
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#17 dercoo
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Most of the games shown will be exclusive....

for kinect that is

:P

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#18 Infinite_Access
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Most of the games shown will be exclusive....

for kinect that is

:P

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#19 momentum_god
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Most of the games shown will be exclusive....

for kinect that is

:P

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Like child of eden? lol, kinect game doesn't equal 360 exclusive
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#20 cainetao11
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I dont understand how showing multiplats is pretending they are exclusive? I never once heard them say "these are exclusive to the 360, by the definition of SW".
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#21 cainetao11
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They were pretty good about showing exclusives last year, IIRC. Keep in mind that it's a MS event and not a 360 event, meaning the games shown may well be on both the 360 and the PC. JAB991
Exactly. Exclusive defined here doesnt mean it's how it is defined everywhere.
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#22 momentum_god
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I dont understand how showing multiplats is pretending they are exclusive? I never once heard them say "these are exclusive to the 360, by the definition of SW".cainetao11
cough, bioshock cough ME2 cough Ninja Gaiden 2 cough Eternal sonata cough ect. cough anyways I'm talking just them showcasing it like a 360 exclusive and advertising it like they would one and no1 ever mentioning that it's on ps3, and the only way to find out is to go in a store and look or look for it online, if you didn't look into the game you'd assume it was a 360 exclusive, Modernware they do that with alot, same with a ton of other games

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#23 campzor
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They will show MGS rising i'll tell you that lol.

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And COD lol.TheGuardian03
lol yup.. with timed exclusive dlc
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[QUOTE="cainetao11"]I dont understand how showing multiplats is pretending they are exclusive? I never once heard them say "these are exclusive to the 360, by the definition of SW".momentum_god

cough, bioshock cough ME2 cough Ninja Gaiden 2 cough Eternal sonata cough ect. cough anyways I'm talking just them showcasing it like a 360 exclusive and advertising it like they would one and no1 ever mentioning that it's on ps3, and the only way to find out is to go in a store and look or look for it online, if you didn't look into the game you'd assume it was a 360 exclusive, Modernware they do that with alot, same with a ton of other games

T the time of annoucement were ME2, NG2, Bioshock available on PS3? And again, just because "exclusive" here means one platform, doesn't make it the overall definition of the word. If anything EXCLUDES even one, it is exclusive by definition. So in SW 360/PC multiplats are that. In application of english, those games exclude PS3 and Wii. Hence the use of the word exclusive. These companies dont live by our rules dude. That's why I said "by the definition of SW"
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#25 momentum_god
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[QUOTE="momentum_god"]

[QUOTE="cainetao11"]I dont understand how showing multiplats is pretending they are exclusive? I never once heard them say "these are exclusive to the 360, by the definition of SW".cainetao11

cough, bioshock cough ME2 cough Ninja Gaiden 2 cough Eternal sonata cough ect. cough anyways I'm talking just them showcasing it like a 360 exclusive and advertising it like they would one and no1 ever mentioning that it's on ps3, and the only way to find out is to go in a store and look or look for it online, if you didn't look into the game you'd assume it was a 360 exclusive, Modernware they do that with alot, same with a ton of other games

T the time of annoucement were ME2, NG2, Bioshock available on PS3? And again, just because "exclusive" here means one platform, doesn't make it the overall definition of the word. If anything EXCLUDES even one, it is exclusive by definition. So in SW 360/PC multiplats are that. In application of english, those games exclude PS3 and Wii. Hence the use of the word exclusive. These companies dont live by our rules dude. That's why I said "by the definition of SW"

They exclude mentioning that it's on the ps3=pretending it's an exclusive
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#26 Seiki_sands
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Kinect Compatible does NOT equal Kinect required.
Kinect Compatible does NOT equal Kinect required.
Kinect Compatible does NOT equal Kinect required.

MS has the three new Kinect Compatible IP's that might be shown off in Project Draco, Codename D, and Haunt.

They might have Steel Battalion to show off.

They're going to need to spotlight Gears and Forza.

They might have Halo:CE remake to show off.

They might have Rise of Nightmares to show off.

They might have Codename Kingdoms to show off.

On top of those nine exclusives I've no idea how many multi-plats MS will show. Since those 9 are only the one's we know about and there will certainly be several games we don't know about yet and presumably 1-2 of those will be exclusive, that might leave enough time for 5-6 other games (or more depending on how they organize their show) that are multi-plat to highlight.

If FFvs.13 goes multi-plat they might well promote it to make sure people know its on the 360 too as they did with GTAIV, MGS:R, and FF13.

The rest depends on what they bring to the table. If they're a multi-plat far along on Kinect implementation they might be included to show off that capability (just like MS did with Child of Eden and Sony did for Move with the multi-plat Tiger Woods. If they offer exclusive content (just like MS did with CoD DLC and Sony did with the multi-plat Portal 2 and its Steam integration or Sony did with Dead Space 2 and extraction) they might be spotlighted for that reason.

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Again were NG2, Bioshock, ME2 on the PS3 at the time MS announced them at E3? And I never heard Sony or Ninty say, "also on the 360" at their press events. You expect these companies to market for the others?
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#28 momentum_god
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Again were NG2, Bioshock, ME2 on the PS3 at the time MS announced them at E3? And I never heard Sony or Ninty say, "also on the 360" at their press events. You expect these companies to market for the others?cainetao11
thats because the games they showcase aren't
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[QUOTE="cainetao11"]Again were NG2, Bioshock, ME2 on the PS3 at the time MS announced them at E3? And I never heard Sony or Ninty say, "also on the 360" at their press events. You expect these companies to market for the others?momentum_god
thats because the games they showcase aren't

So they dont show multiplats? Do you watch E3?
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#30 Seiki_sands
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[QUOTE="cainetao11"]Again were NG2, Bioshock, ME2 on the PS3 at the time MS announced them at E3? And I never heard Sony or Ninty say, "also on the 360" at their press events. You expect these companies to market for the others?momentum_god
thats because the games they showcase aren't

Dead Space 2
Portal 2
Tiger Woods 2011

All in last year's Sony presentation, all on 360.

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#31 momentum_god
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[QUOTE="momentum_god"][QUOTE="cainetao11"]Again were NG2, Bioshock, ME2 on the PS3 at the time MS announced them at E3? And I never heard Sony or Ninty say, "also on the 360" at their press events. You expect these companies to market for the others?Seiki_sands

thats because the games they showcase aren't

Dead Space 2
Portal 2
Tiger Woods 2011

All in last year's Sony presentation, all on 360.

oh right, but they always say the ps3 version, where with MS it's just this game is coming out for 360 and thats it then spend millions marketing it without the also on logo

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#32 cainetao11
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Again why would they spend millions marketing the game for Sony or Nintendo? And Sony did not say those games were available on the 360 at their press event. It's the same thing, you just like Sony, hate MS, so it's not wrong somehow.
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#33 momentum_god
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Again why would they spend millions marketing the game for Sony or Nintendo? And Sony did not say those games were available on the 360 at their press event. It's the same thing, you just like Sony, hate MS, so it's not wrong somehow.cainetao11
No it's not the same, MS goes out of their way to avoid saying things that might suggest it's on ps3, Sony doesn't and Sony doesn't pay to advertise multiplats and keep 360s logo out of it
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#34 soulitane
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[QUOTE="TheEpicGoat"]

COD is pretty much expected

Uhm insomniac might show their multiplat

Probably FFvs

momentum_god
Not really convinced on the whole FFvs going to be multiplat, it's an action rpg not a turn based, much harder to port mid development

Please do explain how that makes it harder to port?
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[QUOTE="cainetao11"]Again why would they spend millions marketing the game for Sony or Nintendo? And Sony did not say those games were available on the 360 at their press event. It's the same thing, you just like Sony, hate MS, so it's not wrong somehow.momentum_god
No it's not the same, MS goes out of their way to avoid saying things that might suggest it's on ps3, Sony doesn't and Sony doesn't pay to advertise multiplats and keep 360s logo out of it

Dude what are you talking about, "goes out of their way"? And why cant you only put your logo on an ad you paid for? Basically it's the strategy MS uses that you dont like, is that it? Well it's working, so why change it? To please you?
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#36 momentum_god
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[QUOTE="momentum_god"][QUOTE="cainetao11"]Again why would they spend millions marketing the game for Sony or Nintendo? And Sony did not say those games were available on the 360 at their press event. It's the same thing, you just like Sony, hate MS, so it's not wrong somehow.cainetao11
No it's not the same, MS goes out of their way to avoid saying things that might suggest it's on ps3, Sony doesn't and Sony doesn't pay to advertise multiplats and keep 360s logo out of it

Dude what are you talking about, "goes out of their way"? And why cant you only put your logo on an ad you paid for? Basically it's the strategy MS uses that you dont like, is that it? Well it's working, so why change it? To please you?

Yes their strategy is lying to the public, why do you defend it, they shouldn't change it as long as people like you defend it, because it works because people defend them for lying to them and ripping them off, I'd love to be in that position
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[QUOTE="cainetao11"][QUOTE="momentum_god"] No it's not the same, MS goes out of their way to avoid saying things that might suggest it's on ps3, Sony doesn't and Sony doesn't pay to advertise multiplats and keep 360s logo out of it momentum_god
Dude what are you talking about, "goes out of their way"? And why cant you only put your logo on an ad you paid for? Basically it's the strategy MS uses that you dont like, is that it? Well it's working, so why change it? To please you?

Yes their strategy is lying to the public, why do you defend it, they shouldn't change it as long as people like you defend it, because it works because people defend them for lying to them and ripping them off, I'd love to be in that position

Showing me a normal ad for Batman AA or LA Noire, then in the last two seconds slipping a blurb about a piece of content and ending with "only on PS3" without being clear you were talking about just that last bit, not the whole commercial or the game itself.

You're OK with that one though, eh?

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#38 momentum_god
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[QUOTE="momentum_god"][QUOTE="cainetao11"] Dude what are you talking about, "goes out of their way"? And why cant you only put your logo on an ad you paid for? Basically it's the strategy MS uses that you dont like, is that it? Well it's working, so why change it? To please you?Seiki_sands

Yes their strategy is lying to the public, why do you defend it, they shouldn't change it as long as people like you defend it, because it works because people defend them for lying to them and ripping them off, I'd love to be in that position

Showing me a normal ad for Batman AA or LA Noire, then in the last two seconds slipping a blurb about a piece of content and ending with "only on PS3" without being clear you were talking about just that last bit, not the whole commercial or the game itself.

You're OK with that one though, eh?

The content is only on ps3 they aren't talking about the whole game and never pretended to, it was quite clear
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#40 momentum_god
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[QUOTE="momentum_god"]

Pretty much every year MS shows a ton of multiplats and pretend they are exclusive, and this year is particularly weak in terms of exclusives and it seems child of eden (A tripy looking simple rail shooter) is the best they can do with kinect in terms of advertising so it stands to reason they will be showing alot of multiplats, I'm guessing 4 or 5 what do you think

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most of the multiplats they do show might as well be exclusives, since they generally perform better on 360, have larger, longer lasting online communities on 360 and sell better on 360 too. why dont you make a thread entitled "how many more TrXXXXXX threads can i make?"

Only they are completely playable in full on ps3 with minor unnoticeable differences and of course they sell better on 360 when MS showcases them at E3 and act like it's not on ps3, so no the might as well be thing is pure bull, I can play the games in full on my ps3 and I won't even notice whatever minor differences people whine about after using tools to even detect them
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[QUOTE="momentum_god"][QUOTE="sts106mat"] most of the multiplats they do show might as well be exclusives, since they generally perform better on 360, have larger, longer lasting online communities on 360 and sell better on 360 too. why dont you make a thread entitled "how many more TrXXXXXX threads can i make?"sts106mat
Only they are completely playable in full on ps3 with minor unnoticeable differences and of course they sell better on 360 when MS showcases them at E3 and act like it's not on ps3, so no the might as well be thing is pure bull, I can play the games in full on my ps3 and I won't even notice whatever minor differences people whine about after using tools to even detect them

exactly, so why does it matter to you how many multiplats MS show?

showing multiplats at E3 equals pathetic, just pointing out that MSes first party is pathetic aswell as their software support for 360

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[QUOTE="sts106mat"][QUOTE="momentum_god"] Only they are completely playable in full on ps3 with minor unnoticeable differences and of course they sell better on 360 when MS showcases them at E3 and act like it's not on ps3, so no the might as well be thing is pure bull, I can play the games in full on my ps3 and I won't even notice whatever minor differences people whine about after using tools to even detect them momentum_god

exactly, so why does it matter to you how many multiplats MS show?

showing multiplats at E3 equals pathetic, just pointing out that MSes first party is pathetic aswell as their software support for 360

Since when did they show multiplats as exclusives, care to point out an example?
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COD mw3 , MGS Rising , FFXIII Versus coming to 360? And just for me , Star wars battlefront 3 coming !
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#46 BigBoss255
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50% Kinect 25% multiplats probably Fallout and COD 25% exclusives Gears, Forza (lame) and Kingdoms, Maybe they'll announce real exclusives but I doubt it they only announced kingdoms last year.
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They will show MGS rising i'll tell you that lol.

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Probably, Sony will have Kojima brining too much MGS with 5 and the HD collection so he'll probably send those silly new producers to MS for Rising.
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#48 Seiki_sands
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50% Kinect 25% multiplats probably Fallout and COD 25% exclusives Gears, Forza (lame) and Kingdoms, Maybe they'll announce real exclusives but I doubt it they only announced kingdoms last year.BigBoss255

How are Kinect exclusives not "real exclusives"

Project Draco is being made by some of the people behind the Panzer Dragoon series and Phantom Dust.
Codename D is being made by the makers of Killer 7 and No More Heroes
Haunt is being made by the maker of PaRappa the Rapper and Vib-Ribbon and thus the person commonly credited as founding the music/rhythm genre.
Steel Battalion is being made From Software, makers of Chromehounds, Armored Core, Otogi, Demons Souls, and a bunch of other stuff.
Rise of Nightmares is a M-Rated first person horror from the House of the Dead team.
Codename Kindoms is being made by the makers of Far Cry and Crysis

Gamespot still lists all of those games as Kinect Compatible, not Kinect Required, meaning you can play them with a controller. Personally, I think GS may be a little premature in some of those cases as we know very little about the games, but its silly to discount half a dozen exclusives from proven developers on the off chance they may be Kinect Only titles.

All we hear for years is how MS doesn't support new IP, now six of the nine upcoming exclusives are new IPs, all from proven developers, and people ignore them over and over and over and over again. I suppose its because so little has been shown so far, but we're not talking about what people are looking forward to, we are talking about what MS will show and there's no reason to belittle these games.

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#50 BigBoss255
Member since 2010 • 3539 Posts
[QUOTE="BigBoss255"][QUOTE="TheGuardian03"]

They will show MGS rising i'll tell you that lol.

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Probably, Sony will have Kojima brining too much MGS with 5 and the HD collection so he'll probably send those silly new producers to MS for Rising.

yeah cant wait for a HD collection! whoopeee, setting themselves up for more "giant enemy crab" style shenanigans.

Hey, surely that's better than rushing all the real games and spending an hour on dancing and kiddy games. MS's E3 2010 was a joke.