How many people actually have cutting-edge PCs?

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#1 nameless12345
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There are a lot of threads where spectacular screenshots showing PC games in extreme detail and very high resolution are pasted. However, the question that I'd like to ask is how many people actually have the PCs to run the games on such settings?

Looking at various hardware sites, one can see a pretty different picture. For example a game like Metro 2033 requires a extreme end card like the GeForce GTX 480 to run playlable (about 30 frames per second) in best settings in high res. And that's only the graphics card, but already costs more than the most expensive console.

So when you paste all those spectacular screenshots, you're actually showing what most PC gamers can't really play playlably on their rigs.

This also opens the question why should PC games be developed for such high-end rigs if they can have a lot broader audience with lower graphics (StarCraft 2 is a perfect example).

Note that this isn't a PC vs consoles graphics comparison so try to stick to the thread.

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i did in 2004...top of the line pieces i chose :)
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Nope. It's 2 years old and yet still plays many games at 1920x1200 with high/very high settings dependant upon the game.

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There are a lot of threads where spectacular screenshots showing PC games in extreme detail and very high resolution are pasted. However, the question that I'd like to ask is how many people actually have the PCs to run the games on such settings?

Looking at various hardware sites, one can see a pretty different picture. For example a game like Metro 2033 requires a extreme end card like the GeForce GTX 480 to run playlable (about 30 frames per second) in best settings in high res. And that's only the graphics card, but already costs more than the most expensive console.

So when you paste all those spectacular screenshots, you're actually showing what most PC gamers can't really play playlably on their rigs.

This also opens the question why should PC games be developed for such high-end rigs if they can have a lot broader audience with lower graphics (StarCraft 2 is a perfect example).

Note that this isn't a PC vs consoles graphics comparison so try to stick to the thread.

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My computer isn't even close to cutting edge, but its still far more powerful than the consoles. There's no need to have games on max settings at release. By the time I end up playing more games, they're a few years old and the video card necessary to max them out is quite affordable.
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Mine is perfectly fine. Bought it in 2007.
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Only thing I have that is outdated is my GPU.

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I actually have two of them, one for home use and one for travel.
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#8 Iantheone
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I consider mine to be. I can play every game maxed out (With the exception of Crysis, buts thats just with low aa) at 60+fps. Metro I can max at DX10 60+ fps. Ill be getting another 4890 for about $150 In a month or so as well.
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#9 mbrockway
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My laptop has an ATI 4850. Was the most powerful non-sli notebook card a year or so ago. I run my games at around medium/high (with textures set to high) settings at 1920x1200 with no AA. Has been running even better since AMD started releasing vanilla notebook graphics drivers so I don't have to rely on MSI anymore.
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#10 Ikuto_Tsukiyomi
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Mine is the average run-of-the-mill Laptop, not that powerful, not built for gaming but I can play KillingFloor, which is enough for me while i built my as you would say "Cutting-Edge" PC.

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#11 tehsystemwarior
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Not cutting edge, but can play anything I throw at it. Althon 630 @2.8 x4 GT 220 4 gigs of DDR3
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#12 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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All pics i post are playable framerates from my PC, most people here do the same. Its not "cutting edge" but it is still powerful.
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I can run things maxed out, but i tend to get a cinematic framerate on a few games :P (which im fine with)

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Do I have 4TB hard drive space, 3 GTX 480s, 12GB RAM, and 1000 dollar Intel processors? Hell no. So no I do not have a cutting edge computer. I do have an AMD Phenom 2 965 BE, GTX 260, 4.5GB ram, 2TB space in total (3 external hard drives and 2 internal. Got externals all free.)

My rig is good enough to max at anything on my monitor with a 2048x1125 resolution and still get acceptable frame rates. Of course modded Crysis and Metro 2033 fall below 20FPS in certain areas, mostly Metro 2033, but they're still extremely playable.

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My PC can probably kill most games out there, but the only gaming I do on it is play good old classics from the SNES. My GPU isn't exactly built for gaming though I'm sure it can handle most.

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#16 Jesus_on_fire
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I wouldnt say that my PC is cutting edge, but i would say its pretty damn good, Although i do admit, going with a 5770 was kinda stupid.

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#17 nameless12345
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Note that this is a gaming forum. Many people (and potential customers) have integrated graphics.

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#18 catfishmoon23
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I don't have either a cutting-edge PC or....

Cutting edge Mac

...a cutting-edge Mac!

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I don't have either a cutting-edge PC or....

...a cutting-edge Mac!

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Macs are PCs :P

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Cutting edge PCS can run console ports at like 4000 by 2000 with 4x AA and still have 30 fps. The average PC is just much more powerful than a console and can run games at full hd with over 60 fps and plenty of AA. What, did you think that the "average" PC gamer could only run at console settings? AND, Metro, Crysis, ARMA and Stalker are the graphicaly hard to run games. It's not like you need to run them at their highest settings and have a mega PC, anything above medium way surpasses console settings, just to put it into perspective. Console ports are cake for even a medium-low end gaming PC.
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#21 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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Note that this is a gaming forum. Many people (and potential customers) have integrated graphics.

nameless12345
So why not say, "most people have crappy integrated graphics" and be over and done with? Are you waiting for someone to say it so you can point it out?
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#22 DragonfireXZ95
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Wow, this nameless guy is sure on an anti-PC agenda tonight. You think he's jealous?
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[QUOTE="catfishmoon23"]

I don't have either a cutting-edge PC or....

...a cutting-edge Mac!

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Macs are PCs :P

Yeah, I was debating on whether to just put something like, "you guys don't have the cutting edge PC," accompanied by the Macbook Air picture, but I knew people would be like, "psh, that's not a PC!". Instead I just decided to differentiate. System Wars semantics lol.

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Wow, this nameless guy is sure on an anti-PC agenda tonight. You think he's jealous?DragonfireXZ95

Oh yes, He be jelly my man.

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There are a lot of threads where spectacular screenshots showing PC games in extreme detail and very high resolution are pasted. However, the question that I'd like to ask is how many people actually have the PCs to run the games on such settings?

Looking at various hardware sites, one can see a pretty different picture. For example a game like Metro 2033 requires a extreme end card like the GeForce GTX 480 to run playlable (about 30 frames per second) in best settings in high res. And that's only the graphics card, but already costs more than the most expensive console.

So when you paste all those spectacular screenshots, you're actually showing what most PC gamers can't really play playlably on their rigs.

This also opens the question why should PC games be developed for such high-end rigs if they can have a lot broader audience with lower graphics (StarCraft 2 is a perfect example).

Note that this isn't a PC vs consoles graphics comparison so try to stick to the thread.

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I do and as long as I can play it at a high level, why should I care who can't? You think the guy in the BMW is worried about the guy in a honda? To answer your question. Because they want to. Believe it or not there are still game devs out there who enjoy making great looking games, and don't look at gaming as a quick buck. Something that is missing from the console gaming world.
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#26 nameless12345
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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

There are a lot of threads where spectacular screenshots showing PC games in extreme detail and very high resolution are pasted. However, the question that I'd like to ask is how many people actually have the PCs to run the games on such settings?

Looking at various hardware sites, one can see a pretty different picture. For example a game like Metro 2033 requires a extreme end card like the GeForce GTX 480 to run playlable (about 30 frames per second) in best settings in high res. And that's only the graphics card, but already costs more than the most expensive console.

So when you paste all those spectacular screenshots, you're actually showing what most PC gamers can't really play playlably on their rigs.

This also opens the question why should PC games be developed for such high-end rigs if they can have a lot broader audience with lower graphics (StarCraft 2 is a perfect example).

Note that this isn't a PC vs consoles graphics comparison so try to stick to the thread.

i5750at4Ghz

Believe it or not there are still game devs out there who enjoy making great looking games, and don't look at gaming as a quick buck. Something that is missing from the console gaming world.

You mean the indie scene? :P

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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="nameless12345"]

There are a lot of threads where spectacular screenshots showing PC games in extreme detail and very high resolution are pasted. However, the question that I'd like to ask is how many people actually have the PCs to run the games on such settings?

Looking at various hardware sites, one can see a pretty different picture. For example a game like Metro 2033 requires a extreme end card like the GeForce GTX 480 to run playlable (about 30 frames per second) in best settings in high res. And that's only the graphics card, but already costs more than the most expensive console.

So when you paste all those spectacular screenshots, you're actually showing what most PC gamers can't really play playlably on their rigs.

This also opens the question why should PC games be developed for such high-end rigs if they can have a lot broader audience with lower graphics (StarCraft 2 is a perfect example).

Note that this isn't a PC vs consoles graphics comparison so try to stick to the thread.

nameless12345

Believe it or not there are still game devs out there who enjoy making great looking games, and don't look at gaming as a quick buck. Something that is missing from the console gaming world.

You mean the indie scene? :P

No I mean devs like CD project. That care about the product they deliver to the market. Undoubtedly the best looking RPG of the next year. Or creative assembly, creating by far the best looking game of the next year in shogun 2 total war. As well as ArenaNet with guild wars 2.

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#28 ChubbyGuy40
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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] Believe it or not there are still game devs out there who enjoy making great looking games, and don't look at gaming as a quick buck. Something that is missing from the console gaming world. i5750at4Ghz

You mean the indie scene? :P

No I mean devs like CD project. That care about the product they deliver to the market. Undoubtedly the best looking RPG of the next year. Or creative assembly, creating by far the best looking game of the next year in shogun 2 total war.

We don't know exactly what Crysis 2 will look like on PC so I wouldn't call Shogun 2 the best just quite yet. Personally I'm hoping The Witcher 2 looks better than any game for some reason. Shogun 2 looks incredible though.

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#29 i5750at4Ghz
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="nameless12345"]

You mean the indie scene? :P

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No I mean devs like CD project. That care about the product they deliver to the market. Undoubtedly the best looking RPG of the next year. Or creative assembly, creating by far the best looking game of the next year in shogun 2 total war.

We don't know exactly what Crysis 2 will look like on PC so I wouldn't call Shogun 2 the best just quite yet. Personally I'm hoping The Witcher 2 looks better than any game for some reason. Shogun 2 looks incredible though.

We have been seeing Crysis 2 on PC forever, they have yet to show it running live on the consoles. Don't buy into there PR BS.
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#30 ChubbyGuy40
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] No I mean devs like CD project. That care about the product they deliver to the market. Undoubtedly the best looking RPG of the next year. Or creative assembly, creating by far the best looking game of the next year in shogun 2 total war.i5750at4Ghz

We don't know exactly what Crysis 2 will look like on PC so I wouldn't call Shogun 2 the best just quite yet. Personally I'm hoping The Witcher 2 looks better than any game for some reason. Shogun 2 looks incredible though.

We have been seeing Crysis 2 on PC forever, they have yet to show it running live on the consoles. Don't buy into there PR BS.

Marketing BS or whatever you wanna call it, I could care less for. I want a demo to see how well it's actually going to look myself.

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#31 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] No I mean devs like CD project. That care about the product they deliver to the market. Undoubtedly the best looking RPG of the next year. Or creative assembly, creating by far the best looking game of the next year in shogun 2 total war.i5750at4Ghz

We don't know exactly what Crysis 2 will look like on PC so I wouldn't call Shogun 2 the best just quite yet. Personally I'm hoping The Witcher 2 looks better than any game for some reason. Shogun 2 looks incredible though.

We have been seeing Crysis 2 on PC forever, they have yet to show it running live on the consoles. Don't buy into there PR BS.

You do know that there has been a beta on the 360, right?
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My 5 year old laptop isn't very good with games. It struggles with Plants vs Zombies. Can't play Bejeweled Twist at all (only for a few seconds before slowing to a halt). And it slows down when there's multiple balls flying on Peggle (yeah I"m keeping it to simple games). Most impressive looking game I can play on it is Morrowind, and only for about 30 minutes, before it slows to a grinding halt.

Thinking about upgrading, or just use it for basic needs only and stick to handhelds and consoles for gaming and save the cash.

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i have an amazing pc

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My 5 year old laptop isn't very good with games. It struggles with Plants vs Zombies. Can't play Bejeweled Twist at all (only for a few seconds before slowing to a halt). And it slows down when there's multiple balls flying on Peggle (yeah I"m keeping it to simple games). Most impressive looking game I can play on it is Morrowind, and only for about 30 minutes, before it slows to a grinding halt.

Thinking about upgrading, or just use it for basic needs only and stick to handhelds and consoles for gaming and save the cash.

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Laptops age faster than desktops. Our Dell computer thats in the family room is 5 years old. Only thing I've done with it is throw in old video cards and a extra gig of RAM. Pentium D 2.8GHz, 1.5-2GB DDR2 (don't remember the exact number,) and 8800gt. I'm surprised even the PSU has lasted this long honestly. If you didn't need a monitor or a copy of Windows (windows 7 that is,) a budget PC is very capable for 500ish to get something good. You could even get away with less money spent if you can deal with used/ebay.

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My GTX 280 is more than two years old, it still plays nearly everything I throw at it at 1080p and a solid framerate. Then again, this probably says more about the consolization (which, if only in this aspect, is a good thing) of this gen than it does the power of the card, though.

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I think I have one.... Just for the power supply alone I paid $220, cant skimp on the most important part of your PC 8) But I didnt buy all the parts at once, a lot of them are upgraded like motherboard,ram,CPU, and the graphics card has been upgraded every 20 or so months. And yeah Metro is not the easiest game to run, its poorly optimize imo, kinda like the 1st Crysis.

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There are a lot of threads where spectacular screenshots showing PC games in extreme detail and very high resolution are pasted. However, the question that I'd like to ask is how many people actually have the PCs to run the games on such settings?

Looking at various hardware sites, one can see a pretty different picture. For example a game like Metro 2033 requires a extreme end card like the GeForce GTX 480 to run playlable (about 30 frames per second) in best settings in high res. And that's only the graphics card, but already costs more than the most expensive console.

So when you paste all those spectacular screenshots, you're actually showing what most PC gamers can't really play playlably on their rigs.

This also opens the question why should PC games be developed for such high-end rigs if they can have a lot broader audience with lower graphics (StarCraft 2 is a perfect example).

Note that this isn't a PC vs consoles graphics comparison so try to stick to the thread.

nameless12345

I have now seen two threads by you covertly trolling the pc platform in the last five minutes. I think that you may have had a bad experience on the pc.

So.......care to share that with us?

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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

There are a lot of threads where spectacular screenshots showing PC games in extreme detail and very high resolution are pasted. However, the question that I'd like to ask is how many people actually have the PCs to run the games on such settings?

Looking at various hardware sites, one can see a pretty different picture. For example a game like Metro 2033 requires a extreme end card like the GeForce GTX 480 to run playlable (about 30 frames per second) in best settings in high res. And that's only the graphics card, but already costs more than the most expensive console.

So when you paste all those spectacular screenshots, you're actually showing what most PC gamers can't really play playlably on their rigs.

This also opens the question why should PC games be developed for such high-end rigs if they can have a lot broader audience with lower graphics (StarCraft 2 is a perfect example).

Note that this isn't a PC vs consoles graphics comparison so try to stick to the thread.

Do you realise that all your points are 'made up'. You just seem to decide on a topic, make up some imiginary data and start posting. People may as well post such topics as: 'Console gaming is really bad because you can only play consoles on wednesdays, but you can play pc anytime, PC FTW!!' If the question you would like to ask is 'how many people actually have the PCs to run the games on such settings?' then why don't you try and get those numbers rather then making stuff up? PC devs often aim at high end machines because they like to do so, game making is an art and people like to do it right. If you want to best tools available then you have to develop on PC. By your twisted logic, devs for the 360 and PS3 should abandon the consoles and develop on the wii because it has a larger userbase, correct? Note:This is a typical anti-pc thread
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#39 loadedboon
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more people own cutting edge pc's then people owning a ferrari.

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I have a $700 PC from 2 years ago that can run just about everything maxed. You dont need a super computer to run games now adays, PC's have come along way.
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[QUOTE=I've got a relatively good 1.3 year old system that can run recent games on High to Max no problem.
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I can run everything on max settings (sometimes sacrificing AA) with my rig (in sig). Also have a 360 and Wii...play all of them but PC is king
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There are a lot of threads where spectacular screenshots showing PC games in extreme detail and very high resolution are pasted. However, the question that I'd like to ask is how many people actually have the PCs to run the games on such settings?

Looking at various hardware sites, one can see a pretty different picture. For example a game like Metro 2033 requires a extreme end card like the GeForce GTX 480 to run playlable (about 30 frames per second) in best settings in high res. And that's only the graphics card, but already costs more than the most expensive console.

So when you paste all those spectacular screenshots, you're actually showing what most PC gamers can't really play playlably on their rigs.

This also opens the question why should PC games be developed for such high-end rigs if they can have a lot broader audience with lower graphics (StarCraft 2 is a perfect example).

Note that this isn't a PC vs consoles graphics comparison so try to stick to the thread.

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I play at a res of 1280x768 or 1440x900. At those res, the PC in my sig doesn't have too many problems getting a game close to max.

Another thing to consider is some games like Crysis actually look worse if you max out some of the environmental effects. For example, Shaders I always leave on High, not Very High. The latter looks too blurry. There are more than one way to make a game look and play better besides sliding everything over to the right or maxing everything out.

All the images I've posted thus far are actual gameplay screens. They're playable on MY rig. I'm sure it's the same for those who post screenshots of their own. I'd like to see you show these images and the owners they belong to. Call them out on it.

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#44 Mr_Cumberdale
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I do not. But the results you would geth ere are unreliable since many here are (PC) gamers.
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#45 foxhound_fox
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Possibly for 2001.

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#46 The_Gaming_Baby
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Bought my current PC in early 2007 and it runs the latest games on high.

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#47 -Snooze-
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Wouldn't call it cutting edge but it runs Football Manager flawlessly ...

Along with Metro and such.

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#48 hd5870corei7
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I have a cutting edge PC. Unless you mean 3 or 4 way and dual 6 core cpus are needed XD

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#49 abuabed
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I think mine is considered to be high-end: CPU: i7 860 @ 3.5GHz GPU: GTX 480 @ 1700/2050 RAM: 6GB With those specs I won't need to upgrade my PC for the next 3 or 4 years...probably it can play games fine even in 5 years but I love to upgrade my hardware in 3 or 4 years to keep up with tech.
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#50 Drakes_Fortune
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i did in 2004...top of the line pieces i chose :)campzor
And how much that last? 1, 2 years? See thats the problem with the "almighty" pc gaming. PS3 was released in 2006 and i didnt needed to update it not even once and it plays some of the best looking games ever that keep getting techincally better with each new game.And we are almost in 2011. Thats 5 years without buying a new single piece of hardware for my gaming system. Now i bet youre 2004 PC cant play nowadays PC games on their higher settings, but my PS3 sure can and they look damn good to me.