How much did Sony pay off Kojima?

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#1 MadExponent
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It's obvious that Kojima is on the take directly from Sony to say things like, "only on PS3" or "teh Blu-Ray is almost too small!"

Honestly, Hideo, we all know that this game would make double it's profits if it was multiplat. How good does around 20 million smell?

The game being on PS3 alone is nothing but money and maybe a bit of silly pride in Japanese homeland companies, it is capable on Xbox 360 (in 720p :P)

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#3 Ragashahs
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you think kojima could be bought off?
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#4 Hardpunkfan
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What you just wrote was wrong on so many points, I can't even begin to describe how pathetic it is...NWA_31
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Well, Sony and Konamai must have signed an exclusivity deal. As for the amount, no one will ever know.
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#7 MadExponent
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I love the guys games and all, but hes no deity like you guys want to treat him. He was definitely paid off.
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#8 Hardpunkfan
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pride maybe? Maybe he had a dream that the silly 9gig dvd could never do?
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#9 MadExponent
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What you just wrote was wrong on so many points, I can't even begin to describe how pathetic it is...NWA_31

Just read it and put on your business glasses dude.

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No. Just no.
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pride maybe? Maybe he had a dream that the silly 9gig dvd could never do?Hardpunkfan

Uncompressed Audio? Dude, if you really think that 9 Gigabytes is not enough for that game in that resolution, then I don't know what to tell you. It isn't the voice acting, that was done in MGS1. Not the content, MGS3 is probably just as long as MGS4. And the textures aren't even high rez.

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#12 NWA_31
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Just read it and put on your business glasses dude.

MadExponent

Or maybe you are the one who should take them off. Kojima's only wish is to make his dream game, he has never cared or bragged about how much MGS sells.

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[QUOTE="Hardpunkfan"]pride maybe? Maybe he had a dream that the silly 9gig dvd could never do?MadExponent

Uncompressed Audio? Dude, if you really think that 9 Gigabytes is not enough for that game in that resolution, then I don't know what to tell you. It isn't the voice acting, that was done in MGS1. Not the content, MGS3 is probably just as long as MGS4. And the textures aren't even high rez.

Dude, If the PS3 wasn't enought to accomplish his full vision for MGS4 then 360 is just out of the picture.

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I love the guys games and all, but hes no deity like you guys want to treat him. He was definitely paid off.MadExponent

Is there a point in porting to the 360 when the game would be 5-6 discs long? :|

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[QUOTE="Hardpunkfan"]pride maybe? Maybe he had a dream that the silly 9gig dvd could never do?MadExponent

Uncompressed Audio? Dude, if you really think that 9 Gigabytes is not enough for that game in that resolution, then I don't know what to tell you. It isn't the voice acting, that was done in MGS1. Not the content, MGS3 is probably just as long as MGS4. And the textures aren't even high rez.

Content is as long as MGS3? Okay, now you're trolling for sure. Did you even bother watching all the trailers/videos of MGS4? The game is a HUGE battlefield that spans in many different continents and countries.

Just stop. You're failing.

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[QUOTE="MadExponent"]I love the guys games and all, but hes no deity like you guys want to treat him. He was definitely paid off.ChrnoTrigger

Is there a point in porting to the 360 when the game would be 5-6 discs long? :|

Compressed audio, used in pretty much all other games would make it fit.

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#18 Hardpunkfan
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like i said it was his dream , And Compressing audio was not a part of it . So yeah Fail
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It's obvious that Kojima is on the take directly from Sony to say things like, "only on PS3" or "teh Blu-Ray is almost too small!"

Honestly, Hideo, we all know that this game would make double it's profits if it was multiplat. How good does around 20 million smell?

The game being on PS3 alone is nothing but money and maybe a bit of silly pride in Japanese homeland companies, it is capable on Xbox 360 (in 720p :P)

MadExponent

How does stick it sound? Without Playstation there would be no MGS series and he would have $0.

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[QUOTE="MadExponent"]

[QUOTE="Hardpunkfan"]pride maybe? Maybe he had a dream that the silly 9gig dvd could never do?ChrnoTrigger

Uncompressed Audio? Dude, if you really think that 9 Gigabytes is not enough for that game in that resolution, then I don't know what to tell you. It isn't the voice acting, that was done in MGS1. Not the content, MGS3 is probably just as long as MGS4. And the textures aren't even high rez.

Content is as long as MGS3? Okay, now you're trolling for sure. Did you even bother watching all the trailers/videos of MGS4? The game is a HUGE battlefield that spans in many different continents and countries.

Just stop. You're failing.

Even so, do you really believe that this game is not possible on 360? Graphics-wise...please, you would be wrong. If this game is running in 576p then it is doing nothing impressive. That resolution is usually used to cut space.

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[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]

[QUOTE="MadExponent"]I love the guys games and all, but hes no deity like you guys want to treat him. He was definitely paid off.MadExponent

Is there a point in porting to the 360 when the game would be 5-6 discs long? :|

Compressed audio, used in pretty much all other games would make it fit.

Lol, you do know that uncompressed audio only takes about 10 gigs MAX, right? And thats if you have a huge soundtrack..

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[QUOTE="MadExponent"]

Just read it and put on your business glasses dude.

NWA_31

Or maybe you are the one who should take them off. Kojima's only wish is to make his dream game, he has never cared or bragged about how much MGS sells.

ha ha ha... seriously? that was sweet... awe. Or in reality, the TC is right, obviously Kojima was paid something to keep this game exclusive. You can't be that blind to think that Kojima is this god amungst men... he doesn't even make the best espionage game franchise on the market... Splinter Cell is much better than any of the MGS's

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#23 thrones
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Same amount that Microsoft paid to get Fable 2, Gears of War, Halo and Ninja Gaiden II
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#24 thrones
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[QUOTE="NWA_31"][QUOTE="MadExponent"]

Just read it and put on your business glasses dude.

colmusterd28

Or maybe you are the one who should take them off. Kojima's only wish is to make his dream game, he has never cared or bragged about how much MGS sells.

ha ha ha... seriously? that was sweet... awe. Or in reality, the TC is right, obviously Kojima was paid something to keep this game exclusive. You can't be that blind to think that Kojima is this god amungst men... he doesn't even make the best espionage game franchise on the market... Splinter Cell is much better than any of the MGS's

No, MGS ftw. Better more epic story, better gameplay and better characters.

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Same amount that Microsoft paid to get Fable 2, Gears of War, Halo and Ninja Gaiden IIthrones
I dont think they paid anything to get Fable 2 and Halo 3 exclusive. They owned the studios which made them.
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[QUOTE="colmusterd28"][QUOTE="NWA_31"][QUOTE="MadExponent"]

Just read it and put on your business glasses dude.

thrones

Or maybe you are the one who should take them off. Kojima's only wish is to make his dream game, he has never cared or bragged about how much MGS sells.

ha ha ha... seriously? that was sweet... awe. Or in reality, the TC is right, obviously Kojima was paid something to keep this game exclusive. You can't be that blind to think that Kojima is this god amungst men... he doesn't even make the best espionage game franchise on the market... Splinter Cell is much better than any of the MGS's

No, MGS ftw. Better more epic story, better gameplay and better characters.

better gameplay.... double ha ha ha ha....

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#27 MadExponent
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like i said it was his dream , And Compressing audio was not a part of it . So yeah FailHardpunkfan

part of his dream? So next time CliffyB comes out with a game on DVD9 that kills MGS4 in graphics and you can't tell the difference in audio, what will you say?

Can I go worship him too?

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#28 thrones
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[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="colmusterd28"][QUOTE="NWA_31"][QUOTE="MadExponent"]

Just read it and put on your business glasses dude.

colmusterd28

Or maybe you are the one who should take them off. Kojima's only wish is to make his dream game, he has never cared or bragged about how much MGS sells.

ha ha ha... seriously? that was sweet... awe. Or in reality, the TC is right, obviously Kojima was paid something to keep this game exclusive. You can't be that blind to think that Kojima is this god amungst men... he doesn't even make the best espionage game franchise on the market... Splinter Cell is much better than any of the MGS's

No, MGS ftw. Better more epic story, better gameplay and better characters.

better gameplay.... double ha ha ha ha....

Haha...what? It does have better gameplay to me, and several other people. Splinter Cell is all right, but not that great. Either way, Conviction is going open world, it's not really espionage anymore :|

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#29 gtawoof
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Kojima likes the Playstation brand better. Mainly because its from a Japanese company, and they've been good to him throughout its whole run. He'd rather make something exclusive for them then an American company. That's just how it is.
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#30 StrayMBlasTER
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[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="colmusterd28"][QUOTE="NWA_31"][QUOTE="MadExponent"]

Just read it and put on your business glasses dude.

colmusterd28

Or maybe you are the one who should take them off. Kojima's only wish is to make his dream game, he has never cared or bragged about how much MGS sells.

ha ha ha... seriously? that was sweet... awe. Or in reality, the TC is right, obviously Kojima was paid something to keep this game exclusive. You can't be that blind to think that Kojima is this god amungst men... he doesn't even make the best espionage game franchise on the market... Splinter Cell is much better than any of the MGS's

No, MGS ftw. Better more epic story, better gameplay and better characters.

better gameplay.... double ha ha ha ha....

just what are you trying to acomplish?

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[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"][QUOTE="MadExponent"]

[QUOTE="Hardpunkfan"]pride maybe? Maybe he had a dream that the silly 9gig dvd could never do?MadExponent

Uncompressed Audio? Dude, if you really think that 9 Gigabytes is not enough for that game in that resolution, then I don't know what to tell you. It isn't the voice acting, that was done in MGS1. Not the content, MGS3 is probably just as long as MGS4. And the textures aren't even high rez.

Content is as long as MGS3? Okay, now you're trolling for sure. Did you even bother watching all the trailers/videos of MGS4? The game is a HUGE battlefield that spans in many different continents and countries.

Just stop. You're failing.

Even so, do you really believe that this game is not possible on 360? Graphics-wise...please, you would be wrong. If this game is running in 576p then it is doing nothing impressive. That resolution is usually used to cut space.

NO IT IS NOT!

"Game-wise, it's pretty close to the original vision," Kojima said in this month's issue of UK-based Edge magazine (viaKotaku). "But the graphic side things like motion-blending and the size of the map was not totally accomplished to my original vision -- to my satisfaction."

Kojima has a history of being demanding. In March, the famed designer said "there's not enough space" when speaking of Blu-ray, which happens to hold five times the data of DVDs.

"We're using the Cell engine to its limit," he added. "Please don't get me wrong, I'm not criticizing the PS3 machine, it's just that we weren't really aware of what the full-spec PS3 offered -- we were creating something we couldn't entirely see."



The graphics: You thought Gears of War looked amazing? Think again. Metal Gear Solid 4 will blow you away with its ultra-detailed characters and intricate environments, painting some of the most gorgeous graphics seen this side of Crysis. In motion, the graphics look so realistic that your eyes begin to register the visuals as a movie rather than a game. From what we saw, MGS4 puts its 50GB Blu-ray disc to outstanding use.

The guns: The final game will feature over 70 weapons, from lethal assault rifles to silent tranquilizer guns, and you can outfit many of them with scopes, recoil grips, laser sights, flashlights, and more. Collecting enemy weapons will unlock new guns and "Drebin Points" for further customization. There are 70+ guns in all.

The sound: MGS4 has some of the crispest, clearest sound effects we've ever heard -- the booming gunshots will make your hair stand on end! The Hollywood-****soundtrack is also predictably fantastic, and Snake's raspy voice sounds more desiccated than ever. GamePro editor Sid Shuman went so far as to say that MGS4 has "the best sound I've ever heard in a game."


ONLY ON PS3, ONLY POSSIBLE ON PS3.

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[QUOTE="thrones"]Same amount that Microsoft paid to get Fable 2, Gears of War, Halo and Ninja Gaiden IIwhocares4peace
I dont think they paid anything to get Fable 2 and Halo 3 exclusive. They owned the studios which made them.

They had to buy the studios however :P

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ha ha ha... seriously? that was sweet... awe. Or in reality, the TC is right, obviously Kojima was paid something to keep this game exclusive. You can't be that blind to think that Kojima is this god amungst men... he doesn't even make the best espionage game franchise on the market... Splinter Cell is much better than any of the MGS'scolmusterd28

I don't recall ever calling him a god, do you ? :? But you can't deny that he is one very special guy.

He has never let sales stop him from making his dream game. Maybe you should get to know the man before assuming that he is yet another money-hungry developer.

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Kojima has loyality. They are not sell outs like Capcom, EA, and Ubisoft. You might aswell say that MS paid Silicon Knights, Bioware, and every other company because they have games exclusively to Xbox :|
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Since we're on people/companies being paid off, how much do you think Microsoft paid Rockstar for DLC
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[QUOTE="NWA_31"]What you just wrote was wrong on so many points, I can't even begin to describe how pathetic it is...Hardpunkfan
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the core of my flaming capabilities lack sufficient power as well :P

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So you are saying that Konami will benefit the same from releasing on PS3 only? To me 5 million sales is not quite as good as 11 or 12 million if released on 360 also.
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#38 MadExponent
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[QUOTE="Hardpunkfan"][QUOTE="NWA_31"]What you just wrote was wrong on so many points, I can't even begin to describe how pathetic it is...shadow_hosi

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the core of my flaming capabilities lack sufficient power as well :P

The funny thing is that it wouldnt be "pathetic" if we were talking about any other developer.

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Since we're on people/companies being paid off, how much do you think Microsoft paid Rockstar for DLCdaymo93
yeah exactly. So what if Sony secured rights for MGS? It was a smart move on their part. MGS4 is NEVER COMING to 360. Get over it. If I want Gears of War I will buy a 360, If you want MGS, buy a ps3. Simple.
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#40 thrones
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So you are saying that Konami will benefit the same from releasing on PS3 only? To me 5 million sales is not quite as good as 11 or 12 million if released on 360 also.MadExponent

I guess maybe Kojima doesn't want to put the effort into porting the game...

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#41 NWA_31
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The funny thing is that it wouldnt be "pathetic" if we were talking about any other developer.

MadExponent

But what's even funnier is that you wouldn't even have bothered to make a thread, if it was any other developer.

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It's obvious that Kojima is on the take directly from Sony to say things like, "only on PS3" or "teh Blu-Ray is almost too small!"

Honestly, Hideo, we all know that this game would make double it's profits if it was multiplat. How good does around 20 million smell?

The game being on PS3 alone is nothing but money and maybe a bit of silly pride in Japanese homeland companies, it is capable on Xbox 360 (in 720p :P)

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Oh yeah, because we all know Microsoft doesn't throw around money to make games exclusive to them.
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Konami > Kojima :P Not up to him, up to konami.
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#44 GnR-SLaSh
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lame trolling attempt tbhtonythestudent

What went through my mind too..

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Konami > Kojima :P Not up to him, up to konami.EuroMafia

i though kojima made his own studio?

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[QUOTE="colmusterd28"]ha ha ha... seriously? that was sweet... awe. Or in reality, the TC is right, obviously Kojima was paid something to keep this game exclusive. You can't be that blind to think that Kojima is this god amungst men... he doesn't even make the best espionage game franchise on the market... Splinter Cell is much better than any of the MGS'sNWA_31

I don't recall ever calling him a god, do you ? :? But you can't deny that he is one very special guy.

He has never let sales stop him from making his dream game. Maybe you should get to know the man before assuming that he is yet another money-hungry developer.

i like how people act as if random devs are their best friends.

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[QUOTE="daymo93"]Since we're on people/companies being paid off, how much do you think Microsoft paid Rockstar for DLCwhodeysay85
yeah exactly. So what if Sony secured rights for MGS? It was a smart move on their part. MGS4 is NEVER COMING to 360. Get over it. If I want Gears of War I will buy a 360, If you want MGS, buy a ps3. Simple.

True, and I may just get a PS3...primarily for that game. The point of this post was not to say that MGS4 is a bad game, but to point out how fiscally stupid third party exclusives have become. Most MS exclusives are first party is one way or another. The difference is that Kojima is doing this based on money and pride. The companies that are owned by MS are actually reaping more benefits from it.

Also, my other point was to just piss off PS3 cows that treat Kojima like a god or second coming. The first couple of flamers on here (flamers meaning they flamed me, dont want to get modded for misconception) said everything short of that Hideo couldn't possibly be blasphemed.

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[QUOTE="MadExponent"]I love the guys games and all, but hes no deity like you guys want to treat him. He was definitely paid off.ChrnoTrigger

Is there a point in porting to the 360 when the game would be 5-6 discs long? :|

People like you are going to be so owned when mgs4 is ported to the 360 and at the most is 2 disk's long. Sorry but uncompressed audio can fill a disk quick that is the only thing taking up so much space. You can quote me on this. AT SOME TIME MGS4 WILL BE ON 360. Just not any time soon

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#49 thrones
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[QUOTE="EuroMafia"]Konami > Kojima :P Not up to him, up to konami.StrayMBlasTER

i though kojima made his own studio?

He did, Konami only handles the publishing. I guess Kojima has alot of creative freedom as he's a really good developer...

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#50 gtawoof
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So you are saying that Konami will benefit the same from releasing on PS3 only? To me 5 million sales is not quite as good as 11 or 12 million if released on 360 also.MadExponent

360 people wont buy MGS. They just want to be able to rub it in PS3 fans faces.