How much longer before Wiimote/Nunchuck is considered a "standard controlle

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#1 Number_1_Gamer
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I keep seeing ridiculous threads about things like how SMG would be on a "standard controller". The Wii has been out over a year. How much longer before it's considered a standard controller? Another year? Another two years? When Sony/MS copies it? The Wii is BY FAR the best selling of the current consoles. Whatever it has as a controller should be considered "standard".
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#2 crunchUK
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when sony copycats the wii for their ps4 :P
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#3 -Renegade
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I don't think it will ever happen. ALOT of people do not like the Wii mote myself included. It's not pradtical for all games. I think alot of third party developers feel the same way just look at the games gracing Wii.
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#4 ArisShadows
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More like controller with motion sensing will be.
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#5 Marka1700
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I dont think it will happen. It's a lot of fun for some games but it dosnt adapt to every game like a control pad. Also, ergronimically speaking its terrible for your wrist.
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#6 Sir_BIGnuts
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I think controllers more like improved sixaxis would be a better choice for Sony/MS, especially sinse I think that they would try to add new features if they did "copy" the Wii-mote that would ruin what is already near perfect in execution.
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#7 siafni
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when sony copycats the wii for their ps4 :PcrunchUK

Let's say when this kind of controller will be accurate enough o compare with mouse and keyboard, the wii's controller is far from that, I guess next gen (hoping it will really be one)

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#8 c_smithii
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Isn't Nintendo the originator of the controller button concept. Every other console before that used joysticks.

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#9 micky4889
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Isn't Nintendo the originator of the controller button concept. Every other console before that used joysticks.

c_smithii
last i checked sony was the first to use the disc drive with the ps1
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#10 c_smithii
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[QUOTE="c_smithii"]

Isn't Nintendo the originator of the controller button concept. Every other console before that used joysticks.

micky4889

last i checked sony was the first to use the disc drive with the ps1

Its arguable that they were amongthe first major successful brand to use the compact disc forgame media, but NEC's TurboGrafx CD add-on for the TG-16 was the first CD system. Sega was the second brand to use CD with the Sega CD add-on for the Genesis. Sony was like the 5th brand to use CD-ROM for a game system

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#11 Blue-Sky
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I don't care if they add motion sensing but I would NEVER want the the current gamepads abandoned. They only upgrade I'd allow as standard are neurological sockets implanted on the top of out spine. So we can plug in our games via matrix
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#12 micky4889
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[QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="c_smithii"]

Isn't Nintendo the originator of the controller button concept. Every other console before that used joysticks.

c_smithii

last i checked sony was the first to use the disc drive with the ps1

Its arguable that they were amongthe first major successful brand to use the compact disc forgame media, but NEC's TurboGrafx CD add-on for the TG-16 was the first CD system. Sega was the second brand to use CD with the Sega CD add-on for the Genesis. Sony was like the 5th brand to use CD-ROM for a game system

thoses were all add ons and crappy ones at that sony was the first to use it in there system
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#13 c_smithii
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[QUOTE="c_smithii"][QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="c_smithii"]

Isn't Nintendo the originator of the controller button concept. Every other console before that used joysticks.

micky4889

last i checked sony was the first to use the disc drive with the ps1

Its arguable that they were amongthe first major successful brand to use the compact disc forgame media, but NEC's TurboGrafx CD add-on for the TG-16 was the first CD system. Sega was the second brand to use CD with the Sega CD add-on for the Genesis. Sony was like the 5th brand to use CD-ROM for a game system

thoses were all add ons and crappy ones at that sony was the first to use it in there system

In your opinion that is.

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#14 crunchUK
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[QUOTE="c_smithii"]

Isn't Nintendo the originator of the controller button concept. Every other console before that used joysticks.

micky4889

last i checked sony was the first to use the disc drive with the ps1

NOPE. sega saturn was. you PHAIL.

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Hopefully no time soon. Im not knocking the controller because it is ok for what it does. While playing SMG the other night (havent gotten far enough to give a full judgment but from what I've played) I couldnt help thinking that I'd rather be playing with a GC or the classic controller. Like I said it works for what it is, but I prefer the oldschool controls.
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#16 NathanDrake
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That crap??? Well I hope never in a million years!!
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#17 beast667
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I don't care if they add motion sensing but I would NEVER want the the current gamepads abandoned. They only upgrade I'd allow as standard are neurological sockets implanted on the top of out spine. So we can plug in our games via matrixBlue-Sky
sweet! :D
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#18 MikeE21286
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I don't think it will ever happen.
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#19 Bread_or_Decide
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The missing second analog stick almost cripples the wii remote.
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#20 Bread_or_Decide
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Hopefully no time soon. Im not knocking the controller because it is ok for what it does. While playing SMG the other night (havent gotten far enough to give a full judgment but from what I've played) I couldnt help thinking that I'd rather be playing with a GC or the classic controller. Like I said it works for what it is, but I prefer the oldschool controls.rockydog1111

I do like that my left and right hand can lay on my lap seperately. Its very comfortable.

Plus they're releasing a wireless nunchuk which should make it even better.

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#21 Wave360
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Sony and MS will never copy wii. The "Standard controller" is great i personaly HATE the wii remote for shooters. W/WO the wii zapper.

If they do copy im not buying a console and just going to PC game. The wii remote Sucks (In my opinion) for shooters.

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#22 Bread_or_Decide
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Here's a big problem with the wiimote. That darn sensor bar. The range on that thing is downright embarassing. People come over and I have to explain to them that they have to sit right in front of the television to play properly. Plus with shooters your never pointing at the screen so the zapper and the wii commercials are very misleading.Your really pointing at the sensor bar. Ugh what a pain.

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I like the Wii. You'll be hard pressed to find me say something negative ever about hte wii in my posthistory but, PLEASE GOD NEVER LET THIS HAPPEN!
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#24 Lyphe2k
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Hopefully never cuz I would hate to play platformers with that thing. I'm a lot more into the game when I have to focus less on the remote and more on the story/ mission.
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#25 SER69
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The only thing I do know is that I cant go back to a normal controler now.
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#26 Number_1_Gamer
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You people talking about how you don't like it are completely missing the point. Whether or not you like the Wiimote/Nunchuk is completely irrelevant. I asked how much longer before it's considered a "standard controller". If the Wii is the best-selling console, shouldn't it be considered the "standard controller", and the PS3/360 be considered "alternate" or "retro" controllers? Analog controllers weren't considered "standard" when Nintendo first introduced them, but now are. Rumble controllers weren't considered standard at first, but now are. Why wouldn't the best-selling system's controllers be considered "standard". They should. It should be the weak-selling systems whose retro controllers that should be considered "alternate".

And for the person who said it's terrible for your wrists ergonomically, what the hell are you talking about? It's much better to be able to hold two controllers seperately.

And to the person who said you don't point at the screen, but at the sensor bar? I don't know about you, but I point at the screen. I have my sensor bar above my t.v., and in my Wii settings it indicates that. The cursor doesn't always align with exactly where I point at the screen (although it's extremely close with Zelda due to the customization options), but I'm always pointing at the screen.

Again people, this argument has nothing to do with which is the "better" controller. It has to do with which is considered "standard". I think the system that will likely outsell the other two combined should be considered the "standard". Besides, the standard has to change sometime. The standard went from a d-pad and two main action buttons (NES) to dual analog with rumble and many buttons. Why would it stop evolving there?

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#27 Cali3350
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Hopefully never. Ive yet to really see a point for it.
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#28 OhSnapitz
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Isn't Nintendo the originator of the controller button concept. Every other console before that used joysticks.

c_smithii

Actually nearly every facet of Nintendo was borrowed from Atari..

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#29 Ibacai
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It is considered a standard controller, just for the Wii. The difference is what is considered a "traditional" controller which will require a long time and for all companies to use a Wiimote type controller.
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#30 Number_1_Gamer
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Hopefully never. Ive yet to really see a point for it.Cali3350

How then are you going to emulate the pointer functionality without some sort of "wiimote-like" controller? And if you've played any game that uses IR, you know it's vastely superior to non-IR.

Your comment is like saying "I don't see the point to analog sticks and more than two buttons". LOLz

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#31 General_X
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I'm not sure, but it will definitely be interesting to see what the three companies do next gen as far as controllers are concerned.