How much more advanced can consoles get come next gen?

I wasn't here the last time the new generation started, but was there this much talk about the next gen so soon after the new one started?Ragnarok1051

You mean back with the ps2 and gamecube? Of course you knew the graphics could be much more imporved upon than what you were viewing when playing those games. This gen the consoles have taken a leap towards the pc side of things with the gig hard drives so really the hard drives can't get any bigger, the games seem to look good as it is and I can't see to much of a graphics leap not for awhile anyway. The ps3 now has a wireless controller that it came with and thats new along with blu ray. Online gaming has taken a huge leap and is now expected. Just trying to think of what all can be improved upon at this point in time that would justify a $500 or so console that comes out in a few years.

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]I wasn't here the last time the new generation started, but was there this much talk about the next gen so soon after the new one started?odin2019

You mean back with the ps2 and gamecube? Of course you knew the graphics could be much more imporved upon than what you were viewing when playing those games. This gen the consoles have taken a leap towards the pc side of things with the gig hard drives so really the hard drives can't get any bigger, the games seem to look good as it is and I can't see to much of a graphics leap not for awhile anyway. The ps3 now has a wireless controller that it came with and thats new along with blu ray. Online gaming has taken a huge leap and is now expected. Just trying to think of what all can be improved upon at this point in time that would justify a $500 or so console that comes out in a few years.

It just seems that people are more interested in the next gen then the current gen. Was it like this last gen?

Even now the difference between the new components seen in PCs and those in 360/PS3 is massive, there certainly is a lot of room for improvement if they wanna go that route. Of course there's the whole diminishing returns thing, but still there is lot that could be done even with todays hardware.

If we look at the current consoles, they still can't even do 720p in every game, getting 30fps seems to be a struggle for devs, the textures are horrible at places, large number of units in strategy games quickly puts them on their knees, the controls are limited for many genres, still no dedicated server standard which would allow much larger online scale, even MMOs are rarity. If they keep this pace the leap could be huge to next gen.

Ugh people drive me crazy sometimes. Technology will always keep advancing at fast rates. No we will never stop. Graphics are not at their peak,not even close.

Also no it is not too early to talk about the next gen. The 360 came out 5 years after the start of the last gen. We are already 3 years into this gen. We should excpect announcements next year.

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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]I wasn't here the last time the new generation started, but was there this much talk about the next gen so soon after the new one started?Ragnarok1051

You mean back with the ps2 and gamecube? Of course you knew the graphics could be much more imporved upon than what you were viewing when playing those games. This gen the consoles have taken a leap towards the pc side of things with the gig hard drives so really the hard drives can't get any bigger, the games seem to look good as it is and I can't see to much of a graphics leap not for awhile anyway. The ps3 now has a wireless controller that it came with and thats new along with blu ray. Online gaming has taken a huge leap and is now expected. Just trying to think of what all can be improved upon at this point in time that would justify a $500 or so console that comes out in a few years.

It just seems that people are more interested in the next gen then the current gen. Was it like this last gen?

No its about the same. People are always looking foward to the next big thing and wondering what it will be and how it can improve and make their daily lives more enjoyable. Then again maybe more people are taking next gen into consideration seeing as the consoles have taken a huge leap in general towards the pc side of things with those gig hard drives and going online are now things that have become expected for the next gen consoles as they were not before the ps3 and xbox 360 came along. Going online was expected but the gig harddrvies are now things people definitely expect.

Ugh people drive me crazy sometimes. Technology will always keep advancing at fast rates. No we will never stop. Graphics are not at their peak,not even close.

Also no it is not too early to talk about the next gen. The 360 came out 5 years after the start of the last gen. We are already 3 years into this gen. We should excpect announcements next year.

stepat201

I realize that when you look back in the past 100 years we have greatly developed as a civilization. Things have changed alot from the past 10 or 20 years. However, when you look at city its looks the same as it did about 20 years ago. It has big tall sky scrapers, subway system, buses, sidewalks, cars that are some what the same, and I can see the big cities looking about the same for the next many years to come. Kind of like New York is about the same as it was about 20 years ago or so.

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Ugh people drive me crazy sometimes. Technology will always keep advancing at fast rates. No we will never stop. Graphics are not at their peak,not even close.

Also no it is not too early to talk about the next gen. The 360 came out 5 years after the start of the last gen. We are already 3 years into this gen. We should excpect announcements next year.

odin2019

I realize that when you look back in the past 100 years we have greatly developed as a civilization. Things have changed alot from the past 10 or 20 years. However, when you look at city its looks the same as it did about 20 years ago. It has big tall sky scrapers, subway system, buses, sidewalks, cars that are some what the same, and I can see the big cities looking about the same for the next many years to come. Kind of like New York is about the same as it was about 20 years ago or so.

Cities are not technology. Ofcourse they don't look different every ten years. Technology does though.

[QUOTE="odin2019"][QUOTE="stepat201"]

Ugh people drive me crazy sometimes. Technology will always keep advancing at fast rates. No we will never stop. Graphics are not at their peak,not even close.

Also no it is not too early to talk about the next gen. The 360 came out 5 years after the start of the last gen. We are already 3 years into this gen. We should excpect announcements next year.

stepat201

I realize that when you look back in the past 100 years we have greatly developed as a civilization. Things have changed alot from the past 10 or 20 years. However, when you look at city its looks the same as it did about 20 years ago. It has big tall sky scrapers, subway system, buses, sidewalks, cars that are some what the same, and I can see the big cities looking about the same for the next many years to come. Kind of like New York is about the same as it was about 20 years ago or so.

Cities are not technology. Ofcourse they don't look different every ten years. Technology does though.

The only thing is that I can't see the ps4 or xbox 720 or whatever having that much better graphics than what the ps3 or a current gen console currently does to make people go out and spend $500 or so for it.

Graphically it won't be too noticeably better IMO. It'll be easier to produce pretty graphics, but things like physics, AI, etc, could all be made a lot better.EuroMafia

Sure it's hard to pciture better graphics right now but if you have any common sense you know that they will be significantly better next gen. Just look at the jump from last gen to current gen.

360 launch titles look better than 99% of last gen games. Now compare any game coming out this year to a last gen game and you see my point.

alot. theres no shortage in hardware and software technology advancement.

graphics still have a long long way to go for photo realism (even crysis is still a bit..cartoony/early CGI like. u can tell its a game). the only question is are the diminishing returns on graphics starting to kick in?

devs are only scratching the surface with physics as well so a general massive horsepower upgrade is always useful. if consoles are going to follow the PCs path then it looks like they wont have discrete GPUs and CPUs. itll basically just be a crap load of processors slapped together. probably different types too (scaler, vector OOOE, IOE and so on).this will allows devs to shape the hardware as they see fit...so to speak.

im sure we will see a hold load of extra tick box features als. lots of room for advancement there.

there also massive scope for advancing the controller (something that was very neglected until the wii). the wiimote is just scratching the surface of a motion sensative/pointer system.

so yea...theres a massive scope for advancing the technology in consoles from gen to gen.

I kind of feel that advancement from last gen to current gen doesn't warrant the high production costs of games these days.

I expect to see very few games next gen.