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#1 DriftRS
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After waiting to find out what thier big announcment was on thier website, it turns out to be kinect sports... From the developers that brought us Donkey Kong, Banjo Kazzoie, Perfect Dark and Goldeneye, Microsoft ahs now got them working on a mini-game compilation... Thanks microsoft, you're awesome.

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#2 siddhu33
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Nothing we can do, but wait until their forums come up, and write a long, angry, post.

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After waiting to find out what thier big announcment was on thier website, it turns out to be kinect sports... From the developers that brought us Donkey Kong, Banjo Kazzoie, Perfect Dark and Goldeneye, Microsoft ahs now got them working on a mini-game compilation... Thanks microsoft, you're awesome.

DriftRS

Why did they leave Nintendo?

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#4 LegatoSkyheart
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Nothing we can do, but wait until their forums come up, and write a long, angry, post.

siddhu33

and it'll be about wanting Conker and Killer Instinct. ;)

Why did they leave Nintendo?

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They didn't leave, Microsoft bought rights to them before the Contract with Nintendo ended.

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rare made conker's bad fur day as well. *sigh* im actually feel much more relieved that retro is making the new DK

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#7 Khadaj32
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rare made conker's bad fur day as well. *sigh* im actually feel much more relieved that retro is making the new DK

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This. Rare used to be awesome. Now better men are making better remakes and new iterations of their games (GoldenEye, Donkey Kong.)

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#8 Oonga
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Oh geez.....

let me guess, (if you had one) you sold your Wii after E3 08 right?

Games, especially Rare quality games take years to make. Considering the size of Rare, do you really think all their working on is Kinect Sports? of course not, its just that all their other projects are not in a fit state at the moment.

Its just like Nintendo E3 08. Does anyone remember when Iwata said the Zelda and Mario teams are hard at work? they probably could have shown something then but games like SMG2 etc would have released just like they did now. The same thing with Rare. I cant remember the source but in response to an interview, they said the games are coming, they're just not in a presentable state.

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#9 Diviniuz
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[QUOTE="DriftRS"]

After waiting to find out what thier big announcment was on thier website, it turns out to be kinect sports... From the developers that brought us Donkey Kong, Banjo Kazzoie, Perfect Dark and Goldeneye, Microsoft ahs now got them working on a mini-game compilation... Thanks microsoft, you're awesome.

mattisgod01

Why did they leave Nintendo?

Microsoft did a company takeover, they didn't leave nintendo
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[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

[QUOTE="DriftRS"]

After waiting to find out what thier big announcment was on thier website, it turns out to be kinect sports... From the developers that brought us Donkey Kong, Banjo Kazzoie, Perfect Dark and Goldeneye, Microsoft ahs now got them working on a mini-game compilation... Thanks microsoft, you're awesome.

Diviniuz

Why did they leave Nintendo?

Microsoft did a company takeover, they didn't leave nintendo

Actually The Stamper Bros. wanted to be bought out by Nintendo and Nintendo refused to buy the other 51% of Rareware then they went to Microsoft and Microsoft accepted their offer and Nintendo was forced to sell their 49% stake in Rare because Microsoft had the other 51%.

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#11 DriftRS
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Oh geez.....

let me guess, (if you had one) you sold your Wii after E3 08 right?

Games, especially Rare quality games take years to make. Considering the size of Rare, do you really think all their working on is Kinect Sports? of course not, its just that all their other projects are not in a fit state at the moment.

Its just like Nintendo E3 08. Does anyone remember when Iwata said the Zelda and Mario teams are hard at work? they probably could have shown something then but games like SMG2 etc would have released just like they did now. The same thing with Rare. I cant remember the source but in response to an interview, they said the games are coming, they're just not in a presentable state.

Oonga

sure... but Nintendo has released a bunch of awesome games Mario Kart, New Super Mario Bros, Zelda Twilight Princess, Maro Galaxy, mario galaxy 2, smash bros brawl etc.

Now we think about Rare... since the gen started we've gotten Kameo and a bad sequal to Perfect Dark. Where's the awesome games they're known for. personally, I want a prope bnjo kazooie sequal...

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#12 Timstuff
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Rare is nothing but a husk. The talent that made Rare into the video game rock stars they were on Nintendo's systems is all long gone. The company had been leaking talent for quite a while, which is why Starfox Adventures was the only game they were able to put out on Gamecube, and that started out as an N64 game! They were understaffed and way too disorganized to get anything done, so then Microsoft bought them out, made them work double time to finish their current projects and then released them on Xbox 360. Now everyone good is gone, and Microsoft is trying to figure out how to salvage their failed investment. So what better way to do that, than to put Rare to work making crappy Kinect games with bland Wii-esque graphics? The Rare from the Nintendo days does not exist anymore. It's just a company that has Rare's name. Don't expect to see Banjo-Kazooie 3, Perfect Dark 2 or Killer Instinct 3 any time soon-- as in like, never. Rare has neither the talent nor the manpower to make those games happen. The best you can hope for is more ports of their classic games on Xbox Live, because that's where Rare's best games are and always will be-- in the past, back when they were making good games with Nintendo.
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[QUOTE="Oonga"]

Oh geez.....

let me guess, (if you had one) you sold your Wii after E3 08 right?

Games, especially Rare quality games take years to make. Considering the size of Rare, do you really think all their working on is Kinect Sports? of course not, its just that all their other projects are not in a fit state at the moment.

Its just like Nintendo E3 08. Does anyone remember when Iwata said the Zelda and Mario teams are hard at work? they probably could have shown something then but games like SMG2 etc would have released just like they did now. The same thing with Rare. I cant remember the source but in response to an interview, they said the games are coming, they're just not in a presentable state.

DriftRS

sure... but Nintendo has released a bunch of awesome games Mario Kart, New Super Mario Bros, Zelda Twilight Princess, Maro Galaxy, mario galaxy 2, smash bros brawl etc.

Now we think about Rare... since the gen started we've gotten Kameo and a bad sequal to Perfect Dark. Where's the awesome games they're known for. personally, I want a prope bnjo kazooie sequal...

VIva Pinata, Kameo, Banjo Kazooie Nuts and Bolts and imo PD0 were all great games, yea I agree Im dissapointed that there big announcement was a wii sports rip off, but come on your putting them under waay too high standards, you do know that a company cannot keep on making perfect games forever right?

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#14 Diviniuz
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[QUOTE="Diviniuz"][QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

Why did they leave Nintendo?

Nintendo_Ownes7

Microsoft did a company takeover, they didn't leave nintendo

Actually The Stamper Bros. wanted to be bought out by Nintendo and Nintendo refused to buy the other 51% of Rareware then they went to Microsoft and Microsoft accepted their offer and Nintendo was forced to sell their 49% stake in Rare because Microsoft had the other 51%.

Which is a company takeover (not hostile take over) and thus they didn't leave nintendo
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#15 Fried_Shrimp
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For the record, Starfox Adventures was a great game!
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Rare sucks anyway the guys that Did Perfect dark wen't to make free radical thats why Timesplitters was so fun, and thats why Perfect Dark zero and every rare game since then has been awful.
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#17 Timstuff
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Rare sucks anyway the guys that Did Perfect dark wen't to make free radical thats why Timesplitters was so fun, and thats why Perfect Dark zero and every rare game since then has been awful.Sniping_Crowbar
And now, Free Radical is gone and they've been swallowed up by Crytek to become "Crytek UK." Their last game was very disappointing, which is why they ended up being bought out. It makes me sad to see the Rare legacy slowly but surely disappearing from the industry. :(
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#18 Nohtnym
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Retro studios will become new "Rare", if they success with DKC:R. And I think they will, because the game looks great.

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Oh, how the mighty have fallen... And how little it bothers me.

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Rare sucks anyway the guys that Did Perfect dark wen't to make free radical thats why Timesplitters was so fun, and thats why Perfect Dark zero and every rare game since then has been awful.Sniping_Crowbar

yep because Haze was such a completem asterpeice, and Perfect Dark Zero was a broken piece of garbage

oh wait... :|

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#21 bc1391
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Rare definitly aint what it used to be. Nowadays people are saying Retro is the new Rare. I just hope after the new Donkey Kong, Nintendo lets them work on a brand new IP.

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i firmly believe nintendo had a bigger part in helping make their games then we give Nintendo, considering the quality of games post-Nintendo.
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[QUOTE="Sniping_Crowbar"]Rare sucks anyway the guys that Did Perfect dark wen't to make free radical thats why Timesplitters was so fun, and thats why Perfect Dark zero and every rare game since then has been awful.dragonfly110

yep because Haze was such a completem asterpeice, and Perfect Dark Zero was a broken piece of garbage

oh wait... :|

Not sure what your trying to say? What does Haze have to do with Rare? and i did say that perfect dark zero was bad? so idk what you are trying to say.

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[QUOTE="Oonga"]

Oh geez.....

let me guess, (if you had one) you sold your Wii after E3 08 right?

Games, especially Rare quality games take years to make. Considering the size of Rare, do you really think all their working on is Kinect Sports? of course not, its just that all their other projects are not in a fit state at the moment.

Its just like Nintendo E3 08. Does anyone remember when Iwata said the Zelda and Mario teams are hard at work? they probably could have shown something then but games like SMG2 etc would have released just like they did now. The same thing with Rare. I cant remember the source but in response to an interview, they said the games are coming, they're just not in a presentable state.

DriftRS

sure... but Nintendo has released a bunch of awesome games Mario Kart, New Super Mario Bros, Zelda Twilight Princess, Maro Galaxy, mario galaxy 2, smash bros brawl etc.

Now we think about Rare... since the gen started we've gotten Kameo and a bad sequal to Perfect Dark. Where's the awesome games they're known for. personally, I want a prope bnjo kazooie sequal...

Kameo is a solid game if you actually play it. Same with the new Banjo.
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[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

[QUOTE="Sniping_Crowbar"]Rare sucks anyway the guys that Did Perfect dark wen't to make free radical thats why Timesplitters was so fun, and thats why Perfect Dark zero and every rare game since then has been awful.Sniping_Crowbar

yep because Haze was such a completem asterpeice, and Perfect Dark Zero was a broken piece of garbage

oh wait... :|

Not sure what your trying to say? What does Haze have to do with Rare? and i did say that perfect dark zero was bad? so idk what you are trying to say.

I'm pretty sure that Timesplitters makes up for haze, and even FR said Haze is bad before the game even released.
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[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

[QUOTE="Sniping_Crowbar"]Rare sucks anyway the guys that Did Perfect dark wen't to make free radical thats why Timesplitters was so fun, and thats why Perfect Dark zero and every rare game since then has been awful.Sniping_Crowbar

yep because Haze was such a completem asterpeice, and Perfect Dark Zero was a broken piece of garbage

oh wait... :|

Not sure what your trying to say? What does Haze have to do with Rare? and i did say that perfect dark zero was bad? so idk what you are trying to say.

you';re saying rare is awful because there talent was in the people that went to Free Radical, but Free Radical made haze which cannot be called good at all in any way.

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#28 dragonfly110
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[QUOTE="Sniping_Crowbar"]

[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

yep because Haze was such a completem asterpeice, and Perfect Dark Zero was a broken piece of garbage

oh wait... :|

SAGE_OF_FIRE

Not sure what your trying to say? What does Haze have to do with Rare? and i did say that perfect dark zero was bad? so idk what you are trying to say.

I'm pretty sure that Timesplitters makes up for haze, and even FR said Haze is bad before the game even released.

well then by that logic Perfect Dark and Goldeneye make up for Perfect Dark 0, saying a game is bad before its released doesnt magically make it a better game.

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That's a waste of talent. Would someone please just let a B team do a quick HD arcade perfect port of Killer Instinct 2 with online play for XBLA? Rare doesn't have to do it themselves.
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#30 tomarlyn
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After waiting to find out what thier big announcment was on thier website, it turns out to be kinect sports... From the developers that brought us Donkey Kong, Banjo Kazzoie, Perfect Dark and Goldeneye, Microsoft ahs now got them working on a mini-game compilation... Thanks microsoft, you're awesome.

DriftRS
Thank Nintendo, they let Rare go and Microsoft wouldn't be plugging Kinect if it wasn't for the Wii.
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Oh geez.....

let me guess, (if you had one) you sold your Wii after E3 08 right?

Games, especially Rare quality games take years to make. Considering the size of Rare, do you really think all their working on is Kinect Sports? of course not, its just that all their other projects are not in a fit state at the moment.

Its just like Nintendo E3 08. Does anyone remember when Iwata said the Zelda and Mario teams are hard at work? they probably could have shown something then but games like SMG2 etc would have released just like they did now. The same thing with Rare. I cant remember the source but in response to an interview, they said the games are coming, they're just not in a presentable state.

Oonga
You are right they are making something else. Kinect sports resort. The rare we knew and loved is dead. And that is bizarre since they are owned by the hardcore game company now but after seeing the kinect stuff they are not so hardcore anymore.