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Shocking to see this coming from a level 2 poster.
As usual, people will baw over the technical superiority of the Sony handheld, two years later, people will be laughing at it's pathetic library compared to the nintendo handheld.
Pathetic Library in the next 2 years? It's PSP's first run in the handheld market. They know what mistakes they've done, and they know how the DS became a success. They're going to tremendously improve on that part and so far A LOT OF companies are putting up more support for the NGP for it's great graphics and cheap development cycle.Shocking to see this coming from a level 2 poster.
As usual, people will baw over the technical superiority of the Sony handheld, two years later, people will be laughing at it's pathetic library compared to the nintendo handheld.
WreckEm711
Though I would be willing to place money that this is a poor troll topic. try harder.
BTW, 3DS has full BC...NGP won't, unless you own a PSP Go:P
Oh wow. I make a legitimate post and someone accuses me of trolling. I sure can't find a good gaming community with these kind of stupid comments. Please, let's post something that's relevant to this thread. You know, maybe share your opinion like everyone is in this thread?darkspineslayer
Though I would be willing to place money that this is a poor troll topic. try harder.
BTW, 3DS has full BC...NGP won't, unless you own a PSP Go:P
Over-engineered? Explain. Also, the bulkyness will not only help people with HUEG HANDS, it'll also have enough room for more battery power. and what a sad disappointment with 3 hours of battery life with the 3DS. Such a shame. People are calling it now the backpack gaming on the go. It's the perfect size for a nice screen.NGP is bulky and over-engineered, 3DS is gimmicky. I suppose I would prefer the NGP but I doubt I will buy one.
dc337
3DS didn't even impress me at all. I can't believe they're going to pull off the same tactic they did with the DS, and to the 3DS. REHASHING. Yeah, that's right. They're going to pull off the same damn stunt to those fellow Nintendo fanboys. Look at the 3DS, it's going to have DUAL SCREENS, A TOUCH SCREEN. And look at the upcoming 3DS games coming to that handheld. Just rehashed games. And yes, I can't forget.. THE ULTIMATE 3D EXPERIENCE LOL! XD Why would you put something on a handheld when your eyes are going to be throbbing after 20 minutes with the 3D cranked up. You want kids to be exposed by these screens? They might go blind for playing these at an early age. I know it may be a fun novelty but having it on a system for "everyone" it's going to be bad for anyones eyes. And I guarantee you in the future Nintendo fanboys that they're going to rerelease, rerelease, and rerelease more smaller, sleeker versions of the 3DS. You're going to spend thousands of dollars of Nintendo products just because you're a sucker for it. And the graphics. Wow, I am very disappointed. It sucks.Why should I pay for a new handheld when the graphics were slightly "beefed up" and OCARINA OF TIME is going to be released this summer and it doesn't even look like a remake. Maybe some cleaner sprites and a new model of Link with bunch of new stuff yadda yadda yadda. They're capturing everyone with their lies. So since I basically kicked 3DS in a bathtub let me finally explain how the NGP will kick Nintendo's groin of unhappiness.
- Touch Screen (without a silly pen) [Don't need the Pen for the 3DS, You can use your Thumb.]
- BACK touch screen (with unlimited amounts of ways to make additional buttons a breeze) [Which will Most Likely be used to be the NGP's L2 and R2.]
- PS3 graphics (I kid you not) [Nope.]
- DUAL THUMBSTICKS! (WHY DID YOU NOT FIGURE THIS OUT NINTENDO) [Because of the Touch Screen already been proven on the DS to be a great subsitute]
- 3G [Isn't 3G Slow? Can't imagine using it for Online Gaming.]
- BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY HUGE LINEUP OF PLANNED GAMES FOR THE NGP. [Yeah Backward Compatibilty for Games that you need to Re-Purchase. Also the 3DS has a HUGE Backwards Compatibility Lineup too....and You don't have to Repurchase them!]
- CAMERA [So does the 3DS and Most Phones.]
- NO DISKS! (DOWNLOADABLE) [Ok, Let's see how many NGP games will fit in that 32 GB of Space]
Consumers want just a handheld game, no gimmicky stuff like the 3DS.And the funny part is without the 3G (which I will be getting) is going to be cost 250. With 3G it's going to be approximately 300 - 350 dollars US (obviously) Now that's a good deal isn't it? Everyone just wants a game with buttons, not a pen. It's simple, button layout. Nothing to complain about. You get trophies and a new XMB menu.. called LiveArea and this is going to be HUGE. Just watch this. 3DS is going to be destroyed by NGP's mighty fist. I will laugh and cry in sorrow to feel how bad a Nintendo fanboy is going to wither in tears and then Sony boys--We will mock Nintendo and reign supreme. SONY BOYS STAND UP. A real gaming corp is on it's way of being way more awesome.TankBusterJenn
Where to begin with my rebuttal?
As to Opposed Gameboy Color to Gameboy Advanced?
Rehash? Phoenix Wright vs Professor Layton is a Rehash? Megaman Legends 3? Dead or Alive? Resident Evil Revelations? Perhaps maybe to you, but They certainly don't look like Rehashes to me.
The Ultimate 3D Experience it is. It's 3D, It Works, No Glasses, Success Nintendo, If only the Battery Life didn't suck.
As to Opposed Spending Thousands of Dollars on a Xbox 360 or PS3? Or heck PC?
What....:|....Someone complaining about Handheld Gaming Graphics???
OH WOW. Zelda 3DS Doesn't even LOOK Like a Remake???? WTF? It's not a Reimagining like Goldeneye. It's a Remake with Better Graphics and Better Framerate, If you can't see that you are giving the N64 too much Credit.
And Consumers are getting Games for the 3DS as Well. The 3DS doesn't have much now because Developers are still Developing, You don't want a Bugged up Game do you?
It's a Fair Deal.
and I'm pretty much done....again, you don't really need the Pen for the 3DS, Just use your Fingers.
"NGP didn't even impress me at all. I can't believe they're going to pull off the same tactic they did with the PSP, and to the NGP. REHASHING. Yeah, that's right. They're going to pull off the same damn stunt to those fellowsony fanboys. Look at the NGP, it's going to have PS3 GRAPHICS, DUAL ANALOG. And look at the upcomingNGP games coming to that handheld. JustCall of Duty. And yes, I can't forget... TEH PS3 VISUALS! LOL! XD"
Would you call that a well reasoned argument? No? all I did was change a few names around. now its completly untrue
"Why would you put something on a handheld when your eyes are going to be throbbing after 20 minutes with the 3D cranked up. You want kids to be exposed by these screens? They might go blind for playing these at an early age. I know it may be a fun novelty but having it on a system for "everyone" it's going to be bad for anyones eyes."
This makes me seriously think that you've never even picked up the system, or are one of those people who use the slider like an on/off switch and have it either blasted up or flat off. their is an inbetween that will work for your eyes, and if it really does bother you that much your still getting a hardware leap with 2D mode.
Lets ignore the Optimitrists who actualy believe the 3D visuals can have some benifit by catching problems early for a second. Nintendo has a clearly printed warning on the box to restrict 3D mode for kids under 7, and I dunno about you, but I would LOVE to have the bones to be cool with a 5 year old having a $250 handheld. Nobody is, or will go blind because their eyes need to ajust to doing some extra work.
And I guarantee you in the future Nintendo fanboys that they're going to rerelease, rerelease, and rerelease more smaller, sleeker versions of the 3DS. You're going to spend thousands of dollars of Nintendo products just because you're a sucker for it.
Again, because Sony is totaly innocent of this, right? :roll:
And the graphics. Wow, I am very disappointed. It sucks. Why should I pay for a new handheld when the graphics were slightly "beefed up" and OCARINA OF TIME is going to be released this summer and it doesn't even look like a remake. Maybe some cleaner sprites and a new model of Link with bunch of new stuff yadda yadda yadda. They're capturing everyone with their lies. So since I basically kicked 3DS in a bathtub
No wonder it seems like you've never picked up a 3DS, because your obviously blind. Granted the jump is not PS2 to PS3, but PS1 to Xbox quality is nothing to scoff at. you want visuals, go play a console.
let me finally explain how the NGP will kick Nintendo's groin of unhappiness. This should be fun
Touch Screen (without a silly pen) Dunno about you, but prints mucking up my screen is something I like to avoid. the Stylus also brings a level of precision you don't get with a finger as well
BACK touch screen (with unlimited amounts of ways to make additional buttons a breeze) I'll give you this, after seeing Little Deviants I'm curious as to how they use this
PS3 graphics (I kid you not) There is a big difference between running a cutscene to a 4 year old game and running the same level of visuals rendered in real time. I'll believe it when I see it as opposed to believing the hyperbole alone
DUAL THUMBSTICKS! (WHY DID YOU NOT FIGURE THIS OUT NINTENDO) Touch Screen works wonders for FPS games, yaknow the ones the NGP fanboys are drooling over the second stick for?
3G You mean I can pay a monthly bill to have the same features I can get with a simple Wifi connection I can find all over the place? SCORE!
BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY As stated, flat out lie
HUGE LINEUP OF PLANNED GAMES FOR THE NGP. They've only confirmed a handful and many developers...many of whom are also working on the 3DS. like you have any idea of whats coming for the 3DS anyways
CAMERA 3D camera and inwards camera on the 3DS, moot point
NO DISKS! (DOWNLOADABLE) Give you that one, since it will have full retail games like the PSP
Consumers want just a handheld game, no gimmicky stuff like the 3DS. And the funny part is without the 3G (which I will be getting) is going to be cost 250. With 3G it's going to be approximately 300 - 350 dollars US (obviously) Now that's a good deal isn't it? Everyone just wants a game with buttons, not a pen.
Price point only a rumour. I'll be estatic if it hits that low. If touch hasen't proven itself a viable gaming input by now...
It's simple, button layout. Nothing to complain about. You get trophies and a new XMB menu.. called LiveArea and this is going to be HUGE. Just watch this. 3DS is going to be destroyed by NGP's mighty fist. I will laugh and cry in sorrow to feel how bad a Nintendo fanboy is going to wither in tears and then Sony boys--We will mock Nintendo and reign supreme. SONY BOYS STAND UP. A real gaming corp is on it's way of being way more awesome.
And with that, fanboy argument ruined. have a nice day
Mario 3D, Ocarina 3D, MGS 3D, Kid Icarus 3D vs portable (read: worse) verisons of Uncharted, Killzone and LittleBigPlanet
Yeah, I'd pick 3DS over NGP.
And the 3DS graphics do not suck unless you consider Dreamcast graphics to be "terrible".
[QUOTE="lucium689"][QUOTE="TankBusterJenn"] And I guarantee you in the future Nintendo fanboys that they're going to rerelease, rerelease, and rerelease more smaller, sleeker versions of the 3DS. You're going to spend thousands of dollars of Nintendo products just because you're a sucker for it. TankBusterJenndude the psp did the same thing 1000 2000 3000 go Hey, dude. Nintendo did it, and has done it way more often than Sony. DS DS Lite DSi DSXL Look at the GB, GBA. Nintendo doesn't care. They're a mega-corporation and will steal your FAMILIES MONEY. Sony actually cares about their products and consumers.
No offense, but Sony's a mega-corporation as well. Most likely bigger than Nintendo and their customer service reputation can't possibly be too goodthis gen. None of these companies actually care about their consumers though tbh.
With that said, the ngp seems like it'll be a better system and will likely have better games than the psp had and maybe better than the 3ds in the long run. But Nintendo's brand is still likely too strong in the handheld market for Sony to dominate it sales wise. Especially with Nintendo dropping their system 1st.
You've given absolutely no new points as to why the NGP will "dominate the 3DS". As a matter of fact you're just repeating the same faulty ideal-isms and opinions that didn't help the PSP beat the DS.
$300 - $350 is simply too much money for a handheld to make it into a larger number of hands than early-adopting fans and expect to win against a rival system with larger fan base, which happens to have a better reputation in the handheld arena, and one with better third party support as well.
Nintendo, the secret kings of rehash trash.
chrion133
Except for the fact their rehashes are actually good.
Shocking to see this coming from a level 2 poster.
As usual, people will baw over the technical superiority of the Sony handheld, two years later, people will be laughing at it's pathetic library compared to the nintendo handheld.
WreckEm711
The system hasn't released yet so let's not consult our crystal balls shall we? :P
3DS didn't even impress me at all. I can't believe they're going to pull off the same tactic they did with the DS, and to the 3DS. REHASHING. Yeah, that's right. They're going to pull off the same damn stunt to those fellow Nintendo fanboys. Look at the 3DS, it's going to have DUAL SCREENS, A TOUCH SCREEN. And look at the upcoming 3DS games coming to that handheld. Just rehashed games. And yes, I can't forget.. THE ULTIMATE 3D EXPERIENCE LOL! XD Why would you put something on a handheld when your eyes are going to be throbbing after 20 minutes with the 3D cranked up. You want kids to be exposed by these screens? They might go blind for playing these at an early age. I know it may be a fun novelty but having it on a system for "everyone" it's going to be bad for anyones eyes. And I guarantee you in the future Nintendo fanboys that they're going to rerelease, rerelease, and rerelease more smaller, sleeker versions of the 3DS. You're going to spend thousands of dollars of Nintendo products just because you're a sucker for it. And the graphics. Wow, I am very disappointed. It sucks. Why should I pay for a new handheld when the graphics were slightly "beefed up" and OCARINA OF TIME is going to be released this summer and it doesn't even look like a remake. Maybe some cleaner sprites and a new model of Link with bunch of new stuff yadda yadda yadda. They're capturing everyone with their lies. So since I basically kicked 3DS in a bathtub let me finally explain how the NGP will kick Nintendo's groin of unhappiness. Touch Screen (without a silly pen) BACK touch screen (with unlimited amounts of ways to make additional buttons a breeze) PS3 graphics (I kid you not) DUAL THUMBSTICKS! (WHY DID YOU NOT FIGURE THIS OUT NINTENDO) 3G BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY HUGE LINEUP OF PLANNED GAMES FOR THE NGP. CAMERA NO DISKS! (DOWNLOADABLE) Consumers want just a handheld game, no gimmicky stuff like the 3DS. And the funny part is without the 3G (which I will be getting) is going to be cost 250. With 3G it's going to be approximately 300 - 350 dollars US (obviously) Now that's a good deal isn't it? Everyone just wants a game with buttons, not a pen. It's simple, button layout. Nothing to complain about. You get trophies and a new XMB menu.. called LiveArea and this is going to be HUGE. Just watch this. 3DS is going to be destroyed by NGP's mighty fist. I will laugh and cry in sorrow to feel how bad a Nintendo fanboy is going to wither in tears and then Sony boys--We will mock Nintendo and reign supreme. SONY BOYS STAND UP. A real gaming corp is on it's way of being way more awesome.TankBusterJenn
It's not impossible for the NGP to dominate the 3DS, but at this point in time, all key points seem to be pointing in favor of the 3DS.
1. The system is selling.
2. The "real" games haven't even arrived yet--the system sellers.
3. Nintendo is readying it's next home console, which will likely be tied to the 3DS in some way.
4. The next Nintendo home console is said to cater more to the "hardcore" gamers in the same vein of the 80s/90s.
5. The wii sold a ton. The general public associate the word "videogames" with "Nintendo" again. Back in the 80s, people actually would replace the word "videogames" with "nintendo"-----"let's go play Nintendo."
6. Nintendo has an amazing track record for portables.
7. The sony psp was not supported as well as it could have been.(Yes, I own one myself).
8. Nintendo is the market leader and will have a jumpstart in both the home/portable systems. That's a real biggie. If people go out and buy the home console, it could be PS2 domination for them.
I tried the 3DS yesterday when i was in Glasgow and i can honestly say it's very effective 3D when you use the slider to suite your eyes but just 10 minutes of playing it made everything look as if it was shaking or wobbling so i definitely won't be getting one for bus rides, i'll get the NGP for that. I agree with a lot of stuff you say especially the rear touchpad, six finger were wasted potential when i was using my PSP...
[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]Both will have great games which is the most important. NGP doesn't get Pokemon though so it will automatically lose.JLF1
It will have Monster Hunter though :P
3DS can get Monster Hunter, it's not an exclusive. There is a rumour about it too, and why not? Capcom is good with the 3DS from what we have seen, 3DS unlike the DS can do full 3D worlds well.[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]Both will have great games which is the most important. NGP doesn't get Pokemon though so it will automatically lose.JLF1
It will have Monster Hunter though :P
Maybe now that the 3DS has some juice behind it Capcom will release Monster Hunter on it. So thats pretty much overkill though :PI really want the NPG as long as the games are there. I loved my PSP... But it sucked for getting good games on.
Just hope memory isn't a rip for it like PSP and games are priced like PSP $40.
First I have owned an original PSP and a PSP 3000, also an original DS, a DS Lite and now and DSi and yes we as a family purchased a 3DS.
Now for me personally my hand held gaming is in decline as my console gaming is on the increase ( and there has been a huge shift in the last 12 months ).
I can't play the 3DS for more than 20 mins with the the 3D effect fully on. I experiment with the slider and I can find better settings but still can't play for extended periods. My wife on the other hand can play indefinitely with the 3D fully on. Equally my 5 year old seems able to play it for longer than I and his biggest problem with it is holding it still enough to stay in focus. Overall I think it is a nice piece of kit and for some games the 3D really adds to the experience ( Nintendogs and PES) and for other games it is merely a gimmick adding a bit of depth ( Ridge Racer, Asphalt ). It isn't going to change my gaming life.
I am absolutely getting an NGP on day 1 and look forward to a handheld that will increase my trophy count ( one of the reasons for the decline of my PSP gaming was lack of trophy support ). As with the original PSP and DS I think there is a place in the market for both and again Nintendo will hold the initial advantage for getting to market first and because of Pokemon I guess. I think the NGP will do better than the PSP did not least because of the 2 analog sticks. It will undoubtably have better graphics and FPS, Racing, Sports games will be superior on it ( as they were with the PSP vs. DS ) but will that be enough with the 9 month head start - I doubt it!
I love how you seem to understand the consumers
If consumers did not want a gimmick the wii would be dead last and Kinect and move wouldnt exist...
Oh wow. I make a legitimate post and someone accuses me of trolling.TankBusterJennYeah, right.
You want kids to be exposed by these screens? They might go blind for playing these at an early age.TankBusterJennTotally legitimate. Hordes of blind children will roam the streets. Curse you, Nintendo!
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