How the Wii U SHOULD have been released

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#1 YoYo278
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I've been spending lots of days thinking over what exactly went wrong with the Wii U's launch (saw the figures earlier... barely sold 600k globally still it's insane) i've also professionally studies business and I put together how I think the WiiUshould have been handled:

  • MUCH bigger marketing campaign (at-least $100m more spent), the Wii U should have been seen in every shop window in the center of Japan (Tokyo)
  • At least 3 AAAAE launch titles, as well as a monster hunter title for the japanese market. Maybe even two - like a red and blue version people buy more.
  • $179 price tag, to compete with the Tablets day 1. People say this won't happen then you need to google 'economies of scale' if they had produced more they could have sold them for cheaper - solving both problems
  • 3D screen - the one thing nintendo has over the tablets - if we looked at the hardware sheet for the 3DS they only cost like $9, if you take out the current screen it would work out roughly the same price
  • First 5-20k consoles given out for free. This would instantly mean people would have them and cause circular marketting, aswell as increasing reputation for Nintendo.

Hopefully Nintendo will be able to rectify alot of these mistakes next time around. Can anyone think of anything else they could have done differently?

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#2 bobbetybob
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All of that is wrong.
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#3 Heil68
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Anything would of been better at this point.
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#4 Ly_the_Fairy
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How the Wii U should have been released

  • Call it something other than the Wii U so people don't think it's just an expensive Wii peripheral
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#5 FireEmblem_Man
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Nintendo will eventually correct the mistakes like how they did with the 3DS. I think name branding it the Wii 2 seems more logical than calling it the Wii U as everyone thinks that the Gamepad is only a peripheral.

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#6 El_Garbanzo
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39,99$ like rest of the fisher-price garbage

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#7 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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Nintendo will eventually correct the mistakes like how they did with the 3DS. I think name branding it the Wii 2 seems more logical than calling it the Wii U as everyone thinks that the Gamepad is only a peripheral.

FireEmblem_Man
It isn't the same, though, as Sony and Microsoft have a grasp on the global console side of things. Yes, wii sold more units, but that was any initial surge--a lot coming from people that likely won't buy a console again regardless of brand. Nintendo has even acknowledged this mistake of abandoning the core gamer, which is essentially the guaranteed returning customers. A lot of these people, some likely even wii owners, have ventured to Sony or Microsoft" The fact of the matter is that there is a lust for fancy technology in the game business--there always has been. Ps4 and 720 will undoubtedly make the wiiu look very old. This first year for the wiiu is extremely important. They absolutely need a few huge game releases along the lines of Smash bros, Mario 64, or even Ocarina--smash hit, must have games. You also have to factor in nintendos claim of 3rd party support. They are saying one thing, but all I see for 3rd party support is a bunch of lazy ports of current gen software. This is where they are fumbling bad. There was even a recent article stating how Nintendo knows they can't survive on 1st party alone. Well, they've got to prove it. They've got to show the adopters, and potential ones, what's going to become available and give them a reason to be excited over wiiu--that turns into good press. They simply have got to stop this "maximize sales" technique, where they'll let games sit there until they sell, holding back releases. Sure, it seems like a smart business plan, and it may have worked in the past, but every 3ds and wiiu owner I've talked to find it aggravating at the slow trickle of releases as simple as eshop ones. Really, how difficult is it to get snes games going on wiiu? It isn't, and that's the problem. Nintendo wants its launch software to sell and 3rd party's to make a quick buck on a cheap port. The big problem with 3rd parties and Nintendo is dlc. Dlc is a huge profit for 3rd parties. Explain to me the incentive a 3rd party has in developing for wiiu? This is the scary part for Nintendo. Is wiiu going to sell more than the ps4 and 720 combined? I doubt it.
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#8 Zen_Light
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Seems to be doing just fine as is, and I bet dollars to donuts the next Microsoft and Sony systems don't do as well when they launch.

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#9 1080pOnly
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I've been spending lots of days thinking over what exactly went wrong with the Wii U's launch (saw the figures earlier... barely sold 600k globally still it's insane) i've also professionally studies business and I put together how I think the WiiUshould have been handled:

  • MUCH bigger marketing campaign (at-least $100m more spent), the Wii U should have been seen in every shop window in the center of Japan (Tokyo)
  • At least 3 AAAAE launch titles, as well as a monster hunter title for the japanese market. Maybe even two - like a red and blue version people buy more.
  • $179 price tag, to compete with the Tablets day 1. People say this won't happen then you need to google 'economies of scale' if they had produced more they could have sold them for cheaper - solving both problems
  • 3D screen - the one thing nintendo has over the tablets - if we looked at the hardware sheet for the 3DS they only cost like $9, if you take out the current screen it would work out roughly the same price
  • First 5-20k consoles given out for free. This would instantly mean people would have them and cause circular marketting, aswell as increasing reputation for Nintendo.

Hopefully Nintendo will be able to rectify alot of these mistakes next time around. Can anyone think of anything else they could have done differently?

YoYo278

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#10 nameless12345
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It's too late to talk about what could have been done, it's more important what can be done.

They need to bring back their famous franchises, including the less-selling ones (cause the fans want them) and they also need to bring some good 3rd party games to the table. (not necessarily ports)

As far as hardware and/or software is concerned - lower the loading times.

This is the very first Nintendo console that is plagued with long loading times which is completely opposite to how their systems used to be in the past.

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#11 Link3301
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I've been spending lots of days thinking over what exactly went wrong with the Wii U's launch (saw the figures earlier... barely sold 600k globally still it's insane) i've also professionally studies business and I put together how I think the WiiUshould have been handled:

  • MUCH bigger marketing campaign (at-least $100m more spent), the Wii U should have been seen in every shop window in the center of Japan (Tokyo)
  • At least 3 AAAAE launch titles, as well as a monster hunter title for the japanese market. Maybe even two - like a red and blue version people buy more.
  • $179 price tag, to compete with the Tablets day 1. People say this won't happen then you need to google 'economies of scale' if they had produced more they could have sold them for cheaper - solving both problems
  • 3D screen - the one thing nintendo has over the tablets - if we looked at the hardware sheet for the 3DS they only cost like $9, if you take out the current screen it would work out roughly the same price
  • First 5-20k consoles given out for free. This would instantly mean people would have them and cause circular marketting, aswell as increasing reputation for Nintendo.

Hopefully Nintendo will be able to rectify alot of these mistakes next time around. Can anyone think of anything else they could have done differently?

YoYo278

I can already tell you have a warped sense of reality by looking at your sig. Kilzone 3 a perfect 10? L-o-f***in-l! And PS3 won GotY in 2010? 2010 was Red Dead Redemption, a multiplat.

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#12 LordQuorthon
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Four AAAAE games packed in and sell everything for 20 dollars! That should please all forum dwellers all over the world!

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#13 ocidax
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Nintendo knows what they are doing. You, Not.

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#14 nameless12345
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They should bring back some of those cheesy 90s commercials and slogans too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIpM_WHQPfw

:P

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#15 ActicEdge
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Never run a business. The one thing Nintendo should have done was make the WiiU stronger. Not a generational leap but handily able to outperform the other 2 systems in every department. The WiiU doesn't have the hook of the Wii. They can't get away with mediocre hardware again and expect the same or similar Wii like sales.
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#16 santoron
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It SHOULD have been released 2-3 years ago, before the Wii lost most of its momentum. Ac ouple years ago, people would have been more impressed by the tablet and less concerned about perceived hardware slights.
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#17 Megavideogamer
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The Wii u seems to have launch well. given that the economies of the world are still recovering. 600,000 consoles sold in the first month. Is ok. The Wii U has a challenge of needing to actually play it in order to see that it works well. Or at least to experience the tablet controller.

But the Wii u is not a complete sell out. I've only seen a few White 8GB Wii U basic sets still on store shelves. Nintendo may have be better off just selling Deluxe sets. I expect the Basic set to be discountinued quickly like the PS3 20GB model was it only lasted 5 months.

Nintendo should make more Wii U deluxe sets as they has sold out. 600,000 consoles sold in just over 1 month is a good start for Nintendo.

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I used to be a business analyst, then I took an arrow to the knee...
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#19 deactivated-585ea4b128526
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Fact is, we won't know how bad the Wii u did until spring. Like Sony releasing the shipped to store numbers instead of the actual ps3s in the home numbers, Nintendo will spin the numbers any way imaginable that puts a positive spin on what has been a flop. There is already rumors that units meant to be shipped to Europe will instead be shipped to Japan. Next month US stores will start cancelling orders, and by March even Nintendo will no longer be able to hide the fact the system is selling poorly.

New excuses will include "it is the economy, stupid." "it is selling at or exceeding the pace of the 360." "It is only selling 20% less than the almighty Wii, only the greatest seller of all time."

If the Wii and Xbox360 had 10 million units available for their launch, they would have sold 10 million at the launch. Nintendo produced about 3 million since the launch, and no where near that number has been sold, unless every retail store in the US and Europe are displaying empty boxes and wasting millions advertising the Wii Us on the front page of the ad circulars.

The next step for Nintendo will be dropping the basic model, dropping the price of the deluxe, and probably adding a third model by summer. Then all they can do is pray the xbox3 and ps4 are held back until mid 2014, otherwise look for a wiiu2 coming in 2015/early '16

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#20 guard12
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I only think they shouldve called it something else. Wii U isnt a appealing name and its confusing too many casuals (who are the main audience for Nintendo these days). They don't understand that Wii U is a new system and isnt a addon. Thats my theory on how it couldve been better.

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#21 Yangire
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as well as a monster hunter title for the japanese market.

YoYo278

There is one.

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free ice cream inside
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#23 glez13
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I was totally smh when I read the OP.

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#24 ShadowMoses900
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Lol at "studies", you shouldn't believe every "study" you hear about. And even if you do, you should take the evidence and then draw your own conclusions with it.

Wii U is fine, it just needs more games but that will come with time. I will be buying one later. Still not next gen though, but the fanboys are gonna be fanboys.

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#25 VendettaRed07
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How the Wii U should have been released

  • Call it something other than the Wii U so people don't think it's just an expensive Wii peripheral

Ly_the_Fairy

Seriously this. WiiU is probably the worst name for a console of all time. Not because it just sounds dumb but because its so confusing that people don't understand it.

If they had just frigging called it the Wii 2 casuals would have bought the **** out of it.

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#26 BlbecekBobecek
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i've also professionally studies business

YoYo278

Aw, cute.

I think they should have spent at least USD 900m more on marketing and sell it at 5 bucks a piece.

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I've been spending lots of days thinking over what exactly went wrong with the Wii U's launch (saw the figures earlier... barely sold 600k globally still it's insane) i've also professionally studies business and I put together how I think the WiiUshould have been handled:

  • MUCH bigger marketing campaign (at-least $100m more spent), the Wii U should have been seen in every shop window in the center of Japan (Tokyo)
  • At least 3 AAAAE launch titles, as well as a monster hunter title for the japanese market. Maybe even two - like a red and blue version people buy more.
  • $179 price tag, to compete with the Tablets day 1. People say this won't happen then you need to google 'economies of scale' if they had produced more they could have sold them for cheaper - solving both problems
  • 3D screen - the one thing nintendo has over the tablets - if we looked at the hardware sheet for the 3DS they only cost like $9, if you take out the current screen it would work out roughly the same price
  • First 5-20k consoles given out for free. This would instantly mean people would have them and cause circular marketting, aswell as increasing reputation for Nintendo.

Hopefully Nintendo will be able to rectify alot of these mistakes next time around. Can anyone think of anything else they could have done differently?

YoYo278

Trust me, you need a career change.

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#28 YoYo278
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you need a career change.

madsnakehhh



Pathetically trolling these forums again?

You need a carer change.

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#29 psymon100
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My predictions for 2010:

  • PS3 will win GOTY *CORRECT!*
  • 3DS will be insanely expensive *CORRECT!*
  • GOW3 will be AAAAE *CORRECT!*
  • X360 STILL wont be able to do 3D *CORRECT!*

YoYo278

This is wrong.In 2010, Batman Arkham Asylum GOTY edition was released. On the Xbox 360, you could enable a 3D mode. Therefore, Xbox 360 was able to do 3D in 2010.

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#30 YoYo278
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[QUOTE="YoYo278"]

My predictions for 2010:

  • X360 STILL wont be able to do 3D *CORRECT!*

psymon100

This is wrong.In 2010, Batman Arkham Asylum GOTY edition was released. On the Xbox 360, you could enable a 3D mode. Therefore, Xbox 360 was able to do 3D in 2010.



My sig is two years old, of course things are going to have changed since then, it doesn't make it any less true.

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Stay in school TC, and don't do marketing. It's not your thing.
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#32 Cranler
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Seems to be doing just fine as is, and I bet dollars to donuts the next Microsoft and Sony systems don't do as well when they launch.

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The next x box will be sold out for months and months. Wiiu has been easy to find since the 2nd week.
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#33 Silenthps
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I've been spending lots of days thinking over what exactly went wrong with the Wii U's launch (saw the figures earlier... barely sold 600k globally still it's insane) i've also professionally studies business and I put together how I think the WiiUshould have been handled:

  • MUCH bigger marketing campaign (at-least $100m more spent), the Wii U should have been seen in every shop window in the center of Japan (Tokyo)
  • At least 3 AAAAE launch titles, as well as a monster hunter title for the japanese market. Maybe even two - like a red and blue version people buy more.
  • $179 price tag, to compete with the Tablets day 1. People say this won't happen then you need to google 'economies of scale' if they had produced more they could have sold them for cheaper - solving both problems
  • 3D screen - the one thing nintendo has over the tablets - if we looked at the hardware sheet for the 3DS they only cost like $9, if you take out the current screen it would work out roughly the same price
  • First 5-20k consoles given out for free. This would instantly mean people would have them and cause circular marketting, aswell as increasing reputation for Nintendo.

Hopefully Nintendo will be able to rectify alot of these mistakes next time around. Can anyone think of anything else they could have done differently?

YoYo278

If you're talking about the sales figures from this thread http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29333834/media-create-sales-week-51-2012-dec-17---dec-23-3ds-400k Then that ~600k number is for Japan only....

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#35 psymon100
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[QUOTE="psymon100"]

[QUOTE="YoYo278"]

My predictions for 2010:

  • X360 STILL wont be able to do 3D *CORRECT!*

YoYo278

This is wrong.In 2010, Batman Arkham Asylum GOTY edition was released. On the Xbox 360, you could enable a 3D mode. Therefore, Xbox 360 was able to do 3D in 2010.



My sig is two years old, of course things are going to have changed since then, it doesn't make it any less true.

Your sig was wrong from May 11, 2010. It is still wrong today. It makes a claim about 2010. It will be wrong every second of every minute for the next hour for the rest of eternity until you change it.

Seriously, you should change it. There is incorrect information attached to every single post you've ever made. I would be embarrassed.

You say in your sig a prediction for 2010 was that Xbox 360 would still be unable to do 3D. This is wrong. During 2010, a game came out on the 360 which had 3D support.

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#36 OhSnapitz
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Ninty needs to hit the reset button.. Everything about the launch was botched from the secrecy surrounding the system to the lack of must have software.. they'll be lucky if they don't wind up like the dreamcast this gen.
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#37 Cruxis27
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Nope.

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#38 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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You know, I'm quite happy to see the WiiU crash and burn. It'll probably teach Nintendo to stop relying on gimicky cheap hardware in order to sell.

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I actually am starting to believe they already realized this before the wiiu even launched, but it was too late already.