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#1 2mrw
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Remember how to share used games on PS4 video in 2013!! MS just did the same thing to Sony in 2020!!

Ohh, Sony!

How low have you gone?!

Now waiting for the the spider remaster to become a free upgrade! Like a boss!

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#2 Nonstop-Madness
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Too bad Smart Delivery doesn't work with every game.

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#3 Gifford38
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@2mrw said:
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Remember how to share used games on PS4 video in 2013!! MS just did the same thing to Sony in 2020!!

Ohh, Sony!

How low have you gone?!

Now waiting for the the spider remaster to become a free upgrade! Like a boss!

120 million low and still climbing. love it xbox sells 50 million and now they have more teraflops with no first party launch game and some how be number one again.

so how is sony gone low? so tell were is this sony is going to fail this gen because spiderman is 20 bucks on ps5.

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#4 Pedro
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@gifford38: He wasn't talking about sales. 😎

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#5 SecretPolice
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Just cause I'm a nice guy and the Herd really needs one. lol :P

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#6 NathanDrakeSwag
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So the same way you play them on PS5. Just buy the game. Not sure what the point of this thread or that tweet is.

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#7 Pedro
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

So the same way you play them on PS5. Just buy the game. Not sure what the point of this thread or that tweet is.

Don't you have to purchase the Remaster for Spider-man?

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@Pedro said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

So the same way you play them on PS5. Just buy the game. Not sure what the point of this thread or that tweet is.

Don't you have to purchase the Remaster for Spider-man?

Marvel's Spider-Man and Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered are different games.

Just like Gears of War and Gears of War Ultimate Edition.

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#9 Archangel3371
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Nice jab at Sony there. Well played. 😅

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#10 deactivated-60bf765068a74
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Right. So pickup best version of cyberpunk 2077 on PC. Turn up all settings to high / ray tracing on full.

I do declare this version is superior to the xbox x-series x.

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#11  Edited By deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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@gifford38 said:

120 million low and still climbing. love it xbox sells 50 million and now they have more teraflops with no first party launch game and some how be number one again.

so how is sony gone low? so tell were is this sony is going to fail this gen because spiderman is 20 bucks on ps5.

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#12  Edited By Fedor
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@Pedro said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

So the same way you play them on PS5. Just buy the game. Not sure what the point of this thread or that tweet is.

Don't you have to purchase the Remaster for Spider-man?

Marvel's Spider-Man and Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered are different games.

Just like Gears of War and Gears of War Ultimate Edition.

So basically it's the same game and not worth the money? Only this time instead of it being a decade old game that needed sprucing up it's a two year old game getting an up rez and a frame bump?

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#13 deactivated-60bf765068a74
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@fedor said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@Pedro said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

So the same way you play them on PS5. Just buy the game. Not sure what the point of this thread or that tweet is.

Don't you have to purchase the Remaster for Spider-man?

Marvel's Spider-Man and Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered are different games.

Just like Gears of War and Gears of War Ultimate Edition.

So basically it's the same game and not worth the money? Only this yime instead if it being a decade old game that needed sprucing up it's a two year old game getting an up rez and a frame bump?

Well you see normally when you upgrade a game for the next generation it should look better, not worse. I think thats Sony's plan with Spiderman. Xbox Go Home.

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@i_p_daily said:
@gifford38 said:

120 million low and still climbing. love it xbox sells 50 million and now they have more teraflops with no first party launch game and some how be number one again.

so how is sony gone low? so tell were is this sony is going to fail this gen because spiderman is 20 bucks on ps5.

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There's no audience for RTS games on console. That's why the Xbox version is a late port. Just so Microsoft can claim they have something for launch.

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@i_p_daily said:
@gifford38 said:

120 million low and still climbing. love it xbox sells 50 million and now they have more teraflops with no first party launch game and some how be number one again.

so how is sony gone low? so tell were is this sony is going to fail this gen because spiderman is 20 bucks on ps5.

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Check yourself before you wreck yourself, oops too late :(

its already out on pc. thats like taking god of war ps4 game and adding it to ps5 and calling it a first party launch title.

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Marvel's Spider-Man and Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered are different games.

Just like Gears of War and Gears of War Ultimate Edition.

What makes the games different? The last I checked its just a visual upgrade like Gears 5 on Series X.

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#17  Edited By NathanDrakeSwag
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@fedor said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@Pedro said:

Don't you have to purchase the Remaster for Spider-man?

Marvel's Spider-Man and Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered are different games.

Just like Gears of War and Gears of War Ultimate Edition.

So basically it's the same game and not worth the money? Only this yime instead if it being a decade old game that needed sprucing up it's a two year old game getting an up rez and a frame bump?

@ProtossRushX said:

Well you see normally when you upgrade a game for the next generation it should look better, not worse. I think thats Sony's plan with Spiderman. Xbox Go Home.

It was an embarrassingly bad remaster. Jeff Gerstmann who gave the original version of Gears a 9.6 gave the UE a 2/5

Microsoft are no strangers to butchering classic games with unplayable remasters though.

https://gamingbolt.com/343-industries-explains-why-halo-the-master-chief-collection-was-launched-in-a-broken-state

It took those assholes 4 years to fix the MCC.

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@Pedro said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Marvel's Spider-Man and Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered are different games.

Just like Gears of War and Gears of War Ultimate Edition.

What makes the games different? The last I checked its just a visual upgrade like Gears 5 on Series X.

Kinda like charging 60 bones for Halo Anniversary and Halo MCC and Gears Ultimate and some bones for Rare Replay just some emulated 360 ports brah what are you dong here man?

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@ProtossRushX said:

Kinda like charging 60 bones for Halo Anniversary and Halo MCC and Gears Ultimate and some bones for Rare Replay just some emulated 360 ports brah what are you dong here man?

What makes the Spider-Man games different?😎

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#20 Fedor
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@ProtossRushX said:
@fedor said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@Pedro said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

So the same way you play them on PS5. Just buy the game. Not sure what the point of this thread or that tweet is.

Don't you have to purchase the Remaster for Spider-man?

Marvel's Spider-Man and Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered are different games.

Just like Gears of War and Gears of War Ultimate Edition.

So basically it's the same game and not worth the money? Only this yime instead if it being a decade old game that needed sprucing up it's a two year old game getting an up rez and a frame bump?

Well you see normally when you upgrade a game for the next generation it should look better, not worse. I think thats Sony's plan with Spiderman. Xbox Go Home.

Lol, you tried that BS? Nice trash SS you cherry picked, here's some real comparisons.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-vs-gears-of-war-ultimate-edition

"Ultimately, what we have here is a strict - albeit visually appealing - remake of the original Gears of War. The game plays exactly as it did in 2006, with the same animations, the same controls, and the same AI behaviour. This is Gears of War with a fresh coat of paint - but the visual enhancements are impressive, with far-raching changes that have a huge impact on the overall presentation."

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#21 Gifford38
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@fedor said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@Pedro said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

So the same way you play them on PS5. Just buy the game. Not sure what the point of this thread or that tweet is.

Don't you have to purchase the Remaster for Spider-man?

Marvel's Spider-Man and Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered are different games.

Just like Gears of War and Gears of War Ultimate Edition.

So basically it's the same game and not worth the money? Only this time instead of it being a decade old game that needed sprucing up it's a two year old game getting an up rez and a frame bump?

res and frame bump does not add raytracing, more npc, new assets, new weather system, no load times, high textures etc.

so is every cross gen third party game at launch. there not just rez and frame bumps over the last gen versions. these developers develop these games on old dev kits and new dev kits. there not just adding boost mode to these games. there taking the time to further develop these games on these next gen systems.

example dirt 5 on the ps5 is not going to be the ps4 version in 4k. there is more to that. higher textured assets, rt, more physics in there mud etc.

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#22 SecretPolice
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@fedor:

Yup, like...

:P

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#23 deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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@gifford38 said:
@i_p_daily said:
@gifford38 said:

120 million low and still climbing. love it xbox sells 50 million and now they have more teraflops with no first party launch game and some how be number one again.

so how is sony gone low? so tell were is this sony is going to fail this gen because spiderman is 20 bucks on ps5.

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Check yourself before you wreck yourself, oops too late :(

its already out on pc. thats like taking god of war ps4 game and adding it to ps5 and calling it a first party launch title.

It was always coming to Xbox as stated from the start, its ok you owned yourself, just like you did in your dev thread. I noticed you never responded to my comment because you cows showed your hypocrisy.

Remember when you first joined here you said you would get an Xbox if MS announced a new Fable game because you "loved Fable" well since they've announced it you've been quite. You tried to come across as impartial, but that went out the window real quick, you're a hardcore cow always was lol.

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#24 Fedor
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@gifford38 said:
@fedor said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@Pedro said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

So the same way you play them on PS5. Just buy the game. Not sure what the point of this thread or that tweet is.

Don't you have to purchase the Remaster for Spider-man?

Marvel's Spider-Man and Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered are different games.

Just like Gears of War and Gears of War Ultimate Edition.

So basically it's the same game and not worth the money? Only this time instead of it being a decade old game that needed sprucing up it's a two year old game getting an up rez and a frame bump?

res and frame bump does not add raytracing, more npc, new assets, new weather system, no load times, high textures etc.

so is every cross gen third party game at launch. there not just rez and frame bumps over the last gen versions.

What's your point? Those are new games, Spiderman is the same game with the settings turned up...

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#25 Gifford38
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@i_p_daily said:
@gifford38 said:
@i_p_daily said:
@gifford38 said:

120 million low and still climbing. love it xbox sells 50 million and now they have more teraflops with no first party launch game and some how be number one again.

so how is sony gone low? so tell were is this sony is going to fail this gen because spiderman is 20 bucks on ps5.

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Check yourself before you wreck yourself, oops too late :(

its already out on pc. thats like taking god of war ps4 game and adding it to ps5 and calling it a first party launch title.

It was always coming to Xbox as stated from the start, its ok you owned yourself, just like you did in your dev thread. I noticed you never responded to my comment because you cows showed your hypocrisy.

Remember when you first joined here you said you would get an Xbox if MS announced a new Fable game because you "loved Fable" well since they've announced it you've been quite. You tried to come across as impartial, but that went out the window real quick, you're a hardcore cow always was lol.

been quiet look at my history im been talking about fable and i will get a xbox for fable.

fact is there is nothing at launch that looks like i need to buy series x right of way. unless you like tetris effect and gears tactics. i rather have demon souls, miles, godfall, and ratchet and clank.

the only one game that is coming late 2020 is medium.

fact is the game is out on pc already but but every first party is suppose to be on gamepass day one. you know it wasn't because they saved it for the series x to make it look they had something ready for launch.

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M$ has been so desperate for a gotcha ever since Sony wrecked them with that video that it's just sad now. How do you have a trillion dollars and let other companies mindfuck you like that? That shit was back in 2013, let it go. 🤣🤣🤣

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@Pedro said:
@ProtossRushX said:

Kinda like charging 60 bones for Halo Anniversary and Halo MCC and Gears Ultimate and some bones for Rare Replay just some emulated 360 ports brah what are you dong here man?

What makes the Spider-Man games different?😎

I would imagine the remaster also comes with all of the dlc as well. Like a "definitive" edition or whatever.

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#28 Gifford38
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@fedor said:
@gifford38 said:
@fedor said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@Pedro said:

Don't you have to purchase the Remaster for Spider-man?

Marvel's Spider-Man and Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered are different games.

Just like Gears of War and Gears of War Ultimate Edition.

So basically it's the same game and not worth the money? Only this time instead of it being a decade old game that needed sprucing up it's a two year old game getting an up rez and a frame bump?

res and frame bump does not add raytracing, more npc, new assets, new weather system, no load times, high textures etc.

so is every cross gen third party game at launch. there not just rez and frame bumps over the last gen versions.

What's your point? Those are new games, Spiderman is the same game with the settings turned up...

so third party cross gen games are going to same game as the last gen version with setting turned up?

no raytracing in the next gen versions? no higher res assets in the next gen versions? no higher textures in the next gen version?

but only spiderman will be the same game with out rt etc. i mentioned above? not all third party is giving a free update. its ok for them to do it but not sony?

besides its 20 bucks not 70 for the spiderman ps5 version.

xbox fans act like we need to pay 70 bucks for the ps5 version.

ow no sony is going to fail over 20 bucks. everyone goin to switch xbox because of 20 bucks.

just sad xbox fans thinks that. sony going to fail because spiderman is 20 bucks

if you buy miles on the ps4 you get miles free for ps5. that deal is still there

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Who's gonna bother sharing Gears Tactics 😂

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#30  Edited By Fedor
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@gifford38 said:
@fedor said:
@gifford38 said:
@fedor said:

So basically it's the same game and not worth the money? Only this time instead of it being a decade old game that needed sprucing up it's a two year old game getting an up rez and a frame bump?

res and frame bump does not add raytracing, more npc, new assets, new weather system, no load times, high textures etc.

so is every cross gen third party game at launch. there not just rez and frame bumps over the last gen versions.

What's your point? Those are new games, Spiderman is the same game with the settings turned up...

so third party cross gen games are going to same game as the last gen version with setting turned up?

no raytracing in the next gen versions? no higher res assets in the next gen versions? no higher textures in the next gen version?

but only spiderman will be the same game with out rt etc. i mentioned above? not all third party is giving a free update. its ok for them to do it but not sony?

besides its 20 bucks not 70 for the spiderman ps5 version.

xbox fans act like we need to pay 70 bucks for the ps5 version.

ow no sony is going to fail over 20 bucks. everyone goin to switch xbox because of 20 bucks.

just sad xbox fans thinks that. sony going to fail because spiderman is 20 bucks

if you buy miles on the ps4 you get miles free for ps5. that deal is still there

Spiderman is a remaster, the other games are new... How hard is this for you to grasp? Ray tracing, textures, assets lol etc... are all pretty much settings bumps. Did they build the remaster on a new engine? No, so it's just a facelift on a game that's not even that old. Something they could patch into the game for PS5 owners free if they wanted. I await your next excuse laden shill post.

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#31 Gifford38
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@fedor said:
@gifford38 said:
@fedor said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@Pedro said:

Don't you have to purchase the Remaster for Spider-man?

Marvel's Spider-Man and Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered are different games.

Just like Gears of War and Gears of War Ultimate Edition.

So basically it's the same game and not worth the money? Only this time instead of it being a decade old game that needed sprucing up it's a two year old game getting an up rez and a frame bump?

res and frame bump does not add raytracing, more npc, new assets, new weather system, no load times, high textures etc.

so is every cross gen third party game at launch. there not just rez and frame bumps over the last gen versions.

What's your point? Those are new games, Spiderman is the same game with the settings turned up...

one more thing so because those are new games they are only the ones getting next gen treatment? old games that get updated the same way (not boost mode) getting further developing time are not going to look like the third party games coming out that are getting that next gen treatment?

you telling me the ps4 spiderman that has boost mode all ready that will run 4k/60 on the ps5 is going to look identical to the updated ps5 version.

the ps4 version in boost mode going to add rt, new assets, more density of the city with more npc etc?

tell me if your company worked more hours to get the game on next gen level. would you give away for free? were is the money coming from to pay your employees?

the only reason xbox can do this is because gamepass is not free. your still paying for those free updates on gamepass.

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#32  Edited By Fedor
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@gifford38 said:
@fedor said:
@gifford38 said:
@fedor said:

So basically it's the same game and not worth the money? Only this time instead of it being a decade old game that needed sprucing up it's a two year old game getting an up rez and a frame bump?

res and frame bump does not add raytracing, more npc, new assets, new weather system, no load times, high textures etc.

so is every cross gen third party game at launch. there not just rez and frame bumps over the last gen versions.

What's your point? Those are new games, Spiderman is the same game with the settings turned up...

Stop your rambling "you're telling me" posts. Your whataboutism isn't a counter point. Either write something of substance or don't bother.

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#33  Edited By Gifford38
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@fedor said:
@gifford38 said:
@fedor said:
@gifford38 said:

res and frame bump does not add raytracing, more npc, new assets, new weather system, no load times, high textures etc.

so is every cross gen third party game at launch. there not just rez and frame bumps over the last gen versions.

What's your point? Those are new games, Spiderman is the same game with the settings turned up...

so third party cross gen games are going to same game as the last gen version with setting turned up?

no raytracing in the next gen versions? no higher res assets in the next gen versions? no higher textures in the next gen version?

but only spiderman will be the same game with out rt etc. i mentioned above? not all third party is giving a free update. its ok for them to do it but not sony?

besides its 20 bucks not 70 for the spiderman ps5 version.

xbox fans act like we need to pay 70 bucks for the ps5 version.

ow no sony is going to fail over 20 bucks. everyone goin to switch xbox because of 20 bucks.

just sad xbox fans thinks that. sony going to fail because spiderman is 20 bucks

if you buy miles on the ps4 you get miles free for ps5. that deal is still there

Spiderman is a remaster, the other games are new... How hard is this for you to grasp? Ray tracing, textures, assets lol etc... are all pretty much settings bumps. Did they build the remaster on a new engine? No, so it's just a facelift on a game that's not even that old. Something they could patch into the game for PS5 owners free if they wanted. I await your next excuse laden shill post.

those setting bumps you say is what next gen is bringing over last gen. not much difference.

next gen is just ps4 and abox one with raytracing etc. those setting bumps you talk about.

99% of developers are using those last gen engines and adding the next get dev kits to them.

take the next gears of war you think they are going to create a new engine for the next one? unless they start using unreal 5.

you think guerilla games will not use decima engine for hzd 2 or hzd3 or the next killzone or the next death stranded? all made on the decima engine.

you think game companys start from scratch ever time the make a game?

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#34 Fedor
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@gifford38 said:
@fedor said:
@gifford38 said:
@fedor said:
@gifford38 said:

res and frame bump does not add raytracing, more npc, new assets, new weather system, no load times, high textures etc.

so is every cross gen third party game at launch. there not just rez and frame bumps over the last gen versions.

What's your point? Those are new games, Spiderman is the same game with the settings turned up...

so third party cross gen games are going to same game as the last gen version with setting turned up?

no raytracing in the next gen versions? no higher res assets in the next gen versions? no higher textures in the next gen version?

but only spiderman will be the same game with out rt etc. i mentioned above? not all third party is giving a free update. its ok for them to do it but not sony?

besides its 20 bucks not 70 for the spiderman ps5 version.

xbox fans act like we need to pay 70 bucks for the ps5 version.

ow no sony is going to fail over 20 bucks. everyone goin to switch xbox because of 20 bucks.

just sad xbox fans thinks that. sony going to fail because spiderman is 20 bucks

if you buy miles on the ps4 you get miles free for ps5. that deal is still there

Spiderman is a remaster, the other games are new... How hard is this for you to grasp? Ray tracing, textures, assets lol etc... are all pretty much settings bumps. Did they build the remaster on a new engine? No, so it's just a facelift on a game that's not even that old. Something they could patch into the game for PS5 owners free if they wanted. I await your next excuse laden shill post.

those setting bumps you say is what next gen is bringing over last gen. not much difference.

New games, many will give free update patches. The ones that don't are anti consumer.

next gen is just ps4 and abox one with raytracing etc. those setting bumps you talk about.

99% of developers are using those last gen engines and adding the next get dev kits to them.

take the next gears of war you think they are going to create a new engine for the next one? unless they start using unreal 5.

Gears uses Unreal... So the next one would be using 5 most likely. Also, IT WOULD BE A NEW GAME.

you think guerilla games will not use decima engine for hzd 2 or hzd3 or the next killzone or the next death stranded? all made on the decima engine.

Those in house engines will recieve updates, and once again... THEY WOULD BE NEW GAMES.

you think game companys start from scratch ever time the make a game?

I think you can't make a good argument to save your life.

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@i_p_daily said:
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120 million low and still climbing. love it xbox sells 50 million and now they have more teraflops with no first party launch game and some how be number one again.

so how is sony gone low? so tell were is this sony is going to fail this gen because spiderman is 20 bucks on ps5.

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There's no audience for RTS games on console. That's why the Xbox version is a late port. Just so Microsoft can claim they have something for launch.

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@fedor said:
@gifford38 said:
@fedor said:
@gifford38 said:
@fedor said:

What's your point? Those are new games, Spiderman is the same game with the settings turned up...

so third party cross gen games are going to same game as the last gen version with setting turned up?

no raytracing in the next gen versions? no higher res assets in the next gen versions? no higher textures in the next gen version?

but only spiderman will be the same game with out rt etc. i mentioned above? not all third party is giving a free update. its ok for them to do it but not sony?

besides its 20 bucks not 70 for the spiderman ps5 version.

xbox fans act like we need to pay 70 bucks for the ps5 version.

ow no sony is going to fail over 20 bucks. everyone goin to switch xbox because of 20 bucks.

just sad xbox fans thinks that. sony going to fail because spiderman is 20 bucks

if you buy miles on the ps4 you get miles free for ps5. that deal is still there

Spiderman is a remaster, the other games are new... How hard is this for you to grasp? Ray tracing, textures, assets lol etc... are all pretty much settings bumps. Did they build the remaster on a new engine? No, so it's just a facelift on a game that's not even that old. Something they could patch into the game for PS5 owners free if they wanted. I await your next excuse laden shill post.

those setting bumps you say is what next gen is bringing over last gen. not much difference.

New games, many will give free update patches. The ones that don't are anti consumer.

next gen is just ps4 and abox one with raytracing etc. those setting bumps you talk about.

99% of developers are using those last gen engines and adding the next get dev kits to them.

take the next gears of war you think they are going to create a new engine for the next one? unless they start using unreal 5.

Gears uses Unreal... So the next one would be using 5 most likely. Also, IT WOULD BE A NEW GAME.

you think guerilla games will not use decima engine for hzd 2 or hzd3 or the next killzone or the next death stranded? all made on the decima engine.

Those in house engines will recieve updates, and once again... THEY WOULD BE NEW GAMES.

you think game companys start from scratch ever time the make a game?

I think you can't make a good argument to save your life.

those in house engines will receive updates for these updated versions as well. really only new games will have next gen features? gears5 on the series x will not have rt in it because its a old game?

spiderman 2 is going to be made off of spiderman 1 engine software on the ps5 dev kits. there not going to make a new engine. same with other company's.

so if unreal engine 5 is not ready these companys will not use unreal 4 for next gen titles?

by your logic all series x updated last gen games will not have next gen features. no rt etc.

the only difference is going to be 4k/60 fps for all xbox gamepass games. no rt, higher textures etc.?

the only reason most third party are giving the free update for buying the last gen game first is because there coming out around the same time as next gen.

you think cyberpunk would be free for the next gen version if its been out for more than 2 years? nope

third party only doing this because there made as cross gen games around launch time.

there is only a few that is offering old games as a free update like gta 5 on the ps5 is free but you need to have the ps4 version.

beside spiderman is one game that is 20 bucks its not sony down fall.

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#37  Edited By Fedor
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@gifford38 said:
@fedor said:
@gifford38 said:
@fedor said:

Spiderman is a remaster, the other games are new... How hard is this for you to grasp? Ray tracing, textures, assets lol etc... are all pretty much settings bumps. Did they build the remaster on a new engine? No, so it's just a facelift on a game that's not even that old. Something they could patch into the game for PS5 owners free if they wanted. I await your next excuse laden shill post.

those setting bumps you say is what next gen is bringing over last gen. not much difference.

New games, many will give free update patches. The ones that don't are anti consumer.

next gen is just ps4 and abox one with raytracing etc. those setting bumps you talk about.

99% of developers are using those last gen engines and adding the next get dev kits to them.

take the next gears of war you think they are going to create a new engine for the next one? unless they start using unreal 5.

Gears uses Unreal... So the next one would be using 5 most likely. Also, IT WOULD BE A NEW GAME.

you think guerilla games will not use decima engine for hzd 2 or hzd3 or the next killzone or the next death stranded? all made on the decima engine.

Those in house engines will recieve updates, and once again... THEY WOULD BE NEW GAMES.

you think game companys start from scratch ever time the make a game?

I think you can't make a good argument to save your life.

those in house engines will receive updates for these updated versions as well. really only new games will have next gen features? gears5 on the series x will not have rt in it because its a old game?

Are you drunk?

spiderman 2 is going to be made off of spiderman 1 engine software on the ps5 dev kits. there not going to make a new engine. same with other company's.

So? What does that have to do with Sony charging a premium for a patch?

so if unreal engine 5 is not ready these companys will not use unreal 4 for next gen titles?

Irrelevant question. They can migrate development to Unreal 5 if they've already started... Showing more ignorance to the subject you're trying to discuss.

by your logic all series x updated last gen games will not have next gen features. no rt etc.

Are those 1st party games charging a premium for the update? No.

you think cyberpunk would be free for the next gen version if its been out for more than 2 years? nope

Yes it would, because it's CDPR... They're already doing this for Witcher 3. You don't know shit.

I removed the parts of your post that were completely off topic, your speculation, or too silly to deserve a response.

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@fedor: i didn't know you can 'settings bump' more npc's, vehicles, haptic feedback support, new suits, new photo modes, new trophies, and the City That Never Sleeps DLC. where can i find those 'settings'?

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@ogvampire said:

@fedor: i didn't know you can 'settings bump' more npc's, vehicles, haptic feedback support, new suits, new photo modes, new trophies, and the City That Never Sleeps DLC. where can i find those 'settings'?

Oh damn, it's almost like several PC games have sliders for these things. Also Lol @ suits, photo mode, haptic feedback and trophies.

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@fedor: your laughter is irrelevant when it proves that your remark about a 'settings bump' is obviously wrong and your refusal to see reality is quite sad. c'mon bro... stop it. you're making yourself look silly. you know dang well this particular title isn't a simple settings bump

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@ogvampire said:

@fedor: your laughter is irrelevant when it proves that your remark about a 'settings bump' is obviously wrong and your refusal to see reality is quite sad. also, they have sliders for DLC?! what a magical PC you must have

Did I highlight the DLC? I clearly was referring to the NPC's and vehicles. And I lol'd at the silly features that add no value to the purchase. 🤡🤡🤡

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@fedor: if you're arguing 'value' then why do you keep disregarding the DLC? it must be because it makes your argument look ill-informed. also, i love how you completely ignore the fact that people actually pay for these 'silly features that add no value'. paying for cosmetic upgrades is a thing... duh

EDIT: this isn't the hill you should be dying on. try your argument with a different game...

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@ogvampire said:

@fedor: if you're arguing 'value' then why do you keep disregarding the DLC?

I'm not disregarding it, It's the one decent thing in the deal... Why is the settings and features bump not a free patch to people that already purchased the game?

it must be because it makes your argument look ill-informed.

also, i love how you completely ignore the fact that people actually pay for these 'silly features that add no value'. paying for cosmetic upgrades is a thing... duh

Yeah, they're called idiots.

EDIT: this isn't the hill you should be dying on. try your argument with a different game...

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@fedor: "I'm not disregarding it, It's the one decent thing in the deal... Why is the settings and features bump not a free patch to people that already purchased the game?"

uh, yes you are. so it's silly to say otherwise. the argument was about 'value' and 'settings bump'... the DLC adds obvious value and isn't a settings bump. it's a package deal... get over it.

"Yeah, they're called idiots."

no argument here but we aren't arguing opinions

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@ogvampire said:

@fedor: "I'm not disregarding it, It's the one decent thing in the deal... Why is the settings and features bump not a free patch to people that already purchased the game?"

Answer the question.

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@fedor: what?! i already answered it:

"it's a package deal... get over it."

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#47  Edited By Fedor
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@ogvampire said:

@fedor: what?! i already answered it:

"it's a package deal... get over it."

That's not an answer. Why are people who already purchased the game forced to pay for a patch?

It's a real easy question, try your best to answer it.

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Spider-Man Miles Morales Ultimate Edition is one of the best gaming deals ever. $70 for not one but TWO new Spider-Man games? Yes please.

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#50  Edited By ogvampire
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@fedor: @NathanDrakeSwag: what the hell are you talking about? nobody is forced to do anything. they can play their game on the ps4 or ps5... duh! you should edit your comment cause that was absurd

you know why the upgrades of those other games are free? because you don't get DLC and other 'additions', not setting bumps. this is quite obvious. it doesn't matter what you deem as 'value' of these additions... because you're not interested in them doesn't mean that it didn't take work and a design team to get those in there. this is a clear cut case of this game giving much more than those other games.

EDIT: here, look at it this way. you're getting the DLC for $20... and you get those other additions and upgrades for free. how about that 'value'?