How will PS4 and Xbox 720 be?

My guess is as such:

- 4-times better graphics than PS3 and 360 with 1080p standard

- enhanced Cell + AMD graphics for PS4, AMD APU for 720 (both 2 gig RAM)

- Move and Kinect 2.0

- in-built touchscreen on the default controller

- emphasis on online distribution (d2d)

- 399-499 price tag

- HD drive (SD optional)

- blu-ray

- the games: MGS 5, Uncharted 4, KillZone 4, Gran Turismo 6, LittleBigPlanet 3 (PS4), Halo 5, Gears of War 4, Forza 5, Fable 5 (720)

- all games to support Move and Kinect 2.0 (some requireing it)

Discuss. :P

I expect 15-20x stronger than xbox 360.

GPU better than PC at the time of release (about 4x more powerfull than the very best today), in late 2013-2014

Utilization of that GPU about 1000% better than PC equivalent

2GB ram

I expect 15-20x stronger than xbox 360.

loosingENDS

That's quite optimistic. I think the next-gen is gonna be more a refresh of the current one.

Nextbox: APU with perofrmace equivalent to a 5770 on graphics and about the level of a phenom 2 940 on the cpu side of things. 2 gigs shared ram, hopefully. Obviously HDD of varying capacitties by model.

PS4: improved Cell. Propably something along the lines of a gimped Barts chip (6850/6870) on the graphics side. Guessing 2 gigs of ram and 512 of vram, though they could go shared. Again. HDDs varying by model.

Kinect intergrated into the nextbox. Move as a peripheral, or maybe something like the sixaxis?

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

I expect 15-20x stronger than xbox 360.

nameless12345

That's quite optimistic. I think the next-gen is gonna be more a refresh of the current one.

But xbox 720 will have 8 years ahead hardware, PC hardware is already 10x stronger today, in 2 years will be at least 15x stronger and up to 20x

Why is it optimistic ? It is not like PC has the same hardware as in 2005

Nextbox: APU with perofrmace equivalent to a 5770 on graphics and about the level of a phenom 2 940 on the cpu side of things. 2 gigs shared ram, hopefully. Obviously HDD of varying capacitties by model.

PS4: improved Cell. Propably something along the lines of a gimped Barts chip (6850/6870) on the graphics side. Guessing 2 gigs of ram and 512 of vram, though they could go shared. Again. HDDs varying by model.

Kinect intergrated into the nextbox. Move as a peripheral, or maybe something like the sixaxis?

QQabitmoar

By tradition, i expect a far stronger GPU on xbox 720 than on PS4

Of course they will have the next gen of GPUs and will be far ahead of these cards we have today

I hope both have at least 2 gigs of ram.

My guess is as such:

- 4-times better graphics than PS3 and 360 with 1080p standard

- enhanced Cell + AMD graphics for PS4, AMD APU for 720 (both 2 gig RAM)

- Move and Kinect 2.0

- in-built touchscreen on the default controller

- emphasis on online distribution (d2d)

- 399-499 price tag

- HD drive (SD optional)

- blu-ray

- the games: MGS 5, Uncharted 4, KillZone 4, Gran Turismo 6, LittleBigPlanet 3 (PS4), Halo 5, Gears of War 4, Forza 5, Fable 5 (720)

- all games to support Move and Kinect 2.0 (some requireing it)

Discuss. :P

nameless12345

Expect the equivalent of a high end GPU TODAY. NOt what the PC will have in 2+ years.

I think 2GB of RAM is a little low for "next gen" consoles, especially if they can't beat my old computer with 2009's parts. Those "next gen" consoles would be competing with my phone when I upgrade in 2013 trolololol.... :?

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My guess is as such:

- 4-times better graphics than PS3 and 360 with 1080p standard

- enhanced Cell + AMD graphics for PS4, AMD APU for 720 (both 2 gig RAM)

- Move and Kinect 2.0

- in-built touchscreen on the default controller

- emphasis on online distribution (d2d)

- 399-499 price tag

- HD drive (SD optional)

- blu-ray

- the games: MGS 5, Uncharted 4, KillZone 4, Gran Turismo 6, LittleBigPlanet 3 (PS4), Halo 5, Gears of War 4, Forza 5, Fable 5 (720)

- all games to support Move and Kinect 2.0 (some requireing it)

Discuss. :P

GunSmith1_basic

That would be the end of console gaming for me, i prefer the pad to keyboard and mouse by miles, but i will take anything that is not a huge tablet as a controller

i would love if they tried to make something innovative as opposed to competing with the pc on a hardware level, would be really cool if they started to try and head in a VR direction or something different, id also like to see a big upsurge in origional ip's instead of continual sequels

N64 = Who knows

Gamecube = A cube

Wii = A rectangle

Wii-U = A flat Rectangle

Ps1 = Who knows

Ps2 = Box looking thing

Ps3= BBQ

Ps4= Triangle

xbox = Some odd Square

xbox360 = A big ass Tower

xbox720 = A cylinder

Nitendo DS = A wallet

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

My guess is as such:

- 4-times better graphics than PS3 and 360 with 1080p standard

- enhanced Cell + AMD graphics for PS4, AMD APU for 720 (both 2 gig RAM)

- Move and Kinect 2.0

- in-built touchscreen on the default controller

- emphasis on online distribution (d2d)

- 399-499 price tag

- HD drive (SD optional)

- blu-ray

- the games: MGS 5, Uncharted 4, KillZone 4, Gran Turismo 6, LittleBigPlanet 3 (PS4), Halo 5, Gears of War 4, Forza 5, Fable 5 (720)

- all games to support Move and Kinect 2.0 (some requireing it)

Discuss. :P

GunSmith1_basic

This. I don't see it happening at all. Touch screen would be a step backwards from motion controls anyway, wouldn't it?

Xbox 3 is going to have problems if they dont get blu ray. Next gen games will kill the space on DvD9's. Only work around will be massive hard drives and DLC only games. But that would cut off non Internet users and start a war with gamestop and amazon.

My guess is as such:

- 4-times better graphics than PS3 and 360 with 1080p standard

- enhanced Cell + AMD graphics for PS4, AMD APU for 720 (both 2 gig RAM)

- Move and Kinect 2.0

- in-built touchscreen on the default controller

- emphasis on online distribution (d2d)

- 399-499 price tag

- HD drive (SD optional)

- blu-ray

- the games: MGS 5, Uncharted 4, KillZone 4, Gran Turismo 6, LittleBigPlanet 3 (PS4), Halo 5, Gears of War 4, Forza 5, Fable 5 (720)

- all games to support Move and Kinect 2.0 (some requireing it)

Discuss. :P

nameless12345

4x faster sure but not too sure about being 4x graphics quality, maybe on the texture side ya 1gb vs 256mb

Sony has said they will be using a revised Cell, for the gpu not sure, MS is going the a APU based setup. 1gb for video and 1gb for system would a good start.

Touch screen controller on PS4/720 most likey not

Price all depends on what they put in the console but they will focus at the $400 or under mark

All will have harddrives at least 250gb

All will use bluray

Motion controls are for kids

lol why are all of you saying the next gen consoles, likely being released in 2013, will use the high end chips of today? That's like saying the xbox 360 would have used a radeon 9800 if we were discussing this in 2003. You know that Microsoft and Sony will get massive discounts on hardware, they aren't gonna use whats gonna be considered low end GPU and CPUs for their consoles in 2013. In 2005 the Radeon 1900xt and the Nvidia 7900 were the high end and both Sony and Microsoft used their equivalents in their consoles. Sure the 8800 came out soon after but when the Xbox was released at least the consoles were equal. Just sayin, whenever the new HD Twins come out they are gonna be equivalent to high end PCs at least for 6 months.Magescrew

Care to make a bet on that?

Xbox 3 is going to have problems if they dont get blu ray. Next gen games will kill the space on DvD9's. Only work around will be massive hard drives and DLC only games. But that would cut off non Internet users and start a war with gamestop and amazon.

Vambran

PC certainly does not have such a problem, still uses DVD and is getting the best versions of games

All MS has to do is enable installs, 1-2 disks to unpack an installation and one disk to play, like what PS3 does from one disk

The other solution is just get Blu Ray, it is not like they cant

lol why are all of you saying the next gen consoles, likely being released in 2013, will use the high end chips of today?

That's like saying the xbox 360 would have used a radeon 9800 if we were discussing this in 2003.

You know that Microsoft and Sony will get massive discounts on hardware, they aren't gonna use whats gonna be considered low end GPU and CPUs for their consoles in 2013.

In 2005 the Radeon 1900xt and the Nvidia 7900 were the high end and both Sony and Microsoft used their equivalents in their consoles. Sure the 8800 came out soon after but when the Xbox was released at least the consoles were equal. Just sayin, whenever the new HD Twins come out they are gonna be equivalent to high end PCs at least for 6 months.Magescrew

Exactly, xbox 720 will use the very best GPU of the time of its release, maybe a prototype of a GPU that launches on PC after 720

both next gen consoles will use ground breaking technology that are beyond our wildest imagination in system war, period. use PC spec upgrade logic to predict next console spec is beyond idiocy,. you think Sony and M$ just gonna enhance the Vcard and Core, triple the memory count and just call it xbox720 and PS4?

should I remind you that every console release come with big surprise, from a single player experience casual boy toy to 360/ps3, a total power house(first gen consoles to far surpass high end PC at launch) a social media, multiplayer heaven, a home entertainment center for movies and edit music, a play ground for motion controllers etc. but the minimum effort both companies will do is have 15-20times more horse power than current gen consoles, hell now even PS vita protal is as powerful as a PS3,

we will see big surprise that is for sure

I don't think PSMove will be as pushed as Kinect.

Behind PC's.

Behind PC's.

Am_Confucius

Xbox 360 is 6 years behind PCs and yet Withcer 2 and Crysis 1-2 look stunning on it

Imagine now 8 years ahead of 360 hardware in xbox 720, i can see it making unthinkably amazing looking games for 15 years after its release, easilly

And PC beeing more powerfull will matter a lot less than it does today, that already does not matter almost at all

[QUOTE="Am_Confucius"]

Behind PC's.

loosingENDS

Xbox 360 is 6 years behind PCs and yet Withcer 2 and Crysis 1-2 look stunning on it

Imagine now 8 years ahead of 360 hardware in xbox 720, i can see it making unthinkably amazing looking games for 15 years after its release, easilly

And PC beeing more powerfull will matter a lot less than it does today, that already does not matter almost at all

Are you claiming that technology advances more slowly as time goes on? the 720 will have game 15 years after tis release? Being more powerful will matter 'Less' in the future?

All of your post is entirely incorrect, do you just make stuff up as you go along?

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[QUOTE="Am_Confucius"]

Behind PC's.

tenaka2

Xbox 360 is 6 years behind PCs and yet Withcer 2 and Crysis 1-2 look stunning on it

Imagine now 8 years ahead of 360 hardware in xbox 720, i can see it making unthinkably amazing looking games for 15 years after its release, easilly

And PC beeing more powerfull will matter a lot less than it does today, that already does not matter almost at all

Are you claiming that technology advances more slowly as time goes on? the 720 will have game 15 years after tis release? Being more powerful will matter 'Less' in the future?

All of your post is entirely incorrect, do you just make stuff up as you go along?

All i am saying is that today Withcer 2 on the 6 years old xbox 360 looks good enough to make PC irrelevant for me

With next gen systems that will have games looking 100x better than Withcer 2, even after 15 years of 720 launch these games will look good enough to again make PC irrelevant for me and for even more years

8 years ahead hardware than 360 in 720 will make unbelievable visuals for many more years than 360 hardware did

4x better graphics, as in raw power? That would be pathetic to call that 'next gen'. And I don't think it'd be wise for Sony/MS to try to compete with Nintendo on the casual audiance, it'd be much better for them to take a leap then a baby step and risk being left alone if one of them does take a leap.

Everyone says APU in the 720, like you can't still have a gpu, and even crossfired with it.

And the ram estimation is too low, 4gb min, 8gb 'max'. 8gb to me, is pretty likely, it falls in-line with previous generations at 16x more than current.

I just expect a decent pc from around the time the next consoles are released will be about where they will perform.

Expecting them to at least surpass the PC for quite some time in technology. Won't be easy though. Also please, no touch-screen on the controllers, it just isn't necessary since you already have a TV screen.

Isn't 2 gb of ram a little low, a standard generation has 8x the amount of the previous. Meaning it would round to 4 GB.Devil-Itachi

actually 4Xs so the 2GB prediction may be right on the balls.

ps2 had 128MB

[QUOTE="Am_Confucius"]

Behind PC's.

loosingENDS

Xbox 360 is 6 years behind PCs and yet Withcer 2 and Crysis 1-2 look stunning on it

Imagine now 8 years ahead of 360 hardware in xbox 720, i can see it making unthinkably amazing looking games for 15 years after its release, easilly

And PC beeing more powerfull will matter a lot less than it does today, that already does not matter almost at all

TW2 isn't out yet, and Crysis1 and 2 look pathetic compared with what they run like on my PC.

4x better graphics, as in raw power? That would be pathetic to call that 'next gen'. And I don't think it'd be wise for Sony/MS to try to compete with Nintendo on the casual audiance, it'd be much better for them to take a leap then a baby step and risk being left alone if one of them does take a leap.

Everyone says APU in the 720, like you can't still have a gpu, and even crossfired with it.

And the ram estimation is too low, 4gb min, 8gb 'max'. 8gb to me, is pretty likely, it falls in-line with previous generations at 16x more than current.

I just expect a decent pc from around the time the next consoles are released will be about where they will perform.

Inconsistancy

I am sure they will have a super GPU, far better than anything today

But i dont think there will have more than 2GB ram, with all engines now using heavy streaming, more ram is not really needed

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[QUOTE="Am_Confucius"]

Behind PC's.

milannoir

Xbox 360 is 6 years behind PCs and yet Withcer 2 and Crysis 1-2 look stunning on it

Imagine now 8 years ahead of 360 hardware in xbox 720, i can see it making unthinkably amazing looking games for 15 years after its release, easilly

And PC beeing more powerfull will matter a lot less than it does today, that already does not matter almost at all

TW2 isn't out yet, and Crysis1 and 2 look pathetic compared with what they run like on my PC.

Actually they all look stunning on 360, not "pathetic" at all

There are Witcher 2 videos from 360 version, looks like PC on high/medium mixed setting

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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Xbox 360 is 6 years behind PCs and yet Withcer 2 and Crysis 1-2 look stunning on it

Imagine now 8 years ahead of 360 hardware in xbox 720, i can see it making unthinkably amazing looking games for 15 years after its release, easilly

And PC beeing more powerfull will matter a lot less than it does today, that already does not matter almost at all

loosingENDS

TW2 isn't out yet, and Crysis1 and 2 look pathetic compared with what they run like on my PC.

Actually they all look stunning on 360, not "pathetic" at all

There are Witcher 2 videos from 360 version, looks like PC on high/medium mixed setting

They do look pathetic, only someone with low standards would think otherwise.

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[QUOTE="milannoir"]

TW2 isn't out yet, and Crysis1 and 2 look pathetic compared with what they run like on my PC.

tenaka2

Actually they all look stunning on 360, not "pathetic" at all

There are Witcher 2 videos from 360 version, looks like PC on high/medium mixed setting

They do look pathetic, only someone with low standards would think otherwise.

Sorry, they look stunning to me and not pathetic at all

In fact they look so good, that make PC irrelevant for me

[QUOTE="Devil-Itachi"]Isn't 2 gb of ram a little low, a standard generation has 8x the amount of the previous. Meaning it would round to 4 GB.gamespot4life

actually 4Xs so the 2GB prediction may be right on the balls.

ps2 had 128MB

Actually the ps2 had 32mb ram with another 4mb video ram.

1920x1080 (1080p) will be the standard with 2-4 gigs of ram for both consoles. As for CPU/APU I'm sure that MS is going with some kind of APU from what I've read, not too sure about Sony though.

[QUOTE="Am_Confucius"]

Behind PC's.

loosingENDS

Xbox 360 is 6 years behind PCs and yet Withcer 2 and Crysis 1-2 look stunning on it

Imagine now 8 years ahead of 360 hardware in xbox 720, i can see it making unthinkably amazing looking games for 15 years after its release, easilly

And PC beeing more powerfull will matter a lot less than it does today, that already does not matter almost at all