I see cows type that the ps3 will have better graphics than the xbox 360,
buy i am asking, how? How will it have better grahpics if tthe xbox 360 hasa much better gpu and
structure to make games?
How will the PS3 have better graphics than the XBOX 360? :S
This topic is locked from further discussion.
It's been made clear that with Cell and RSX together do some amazing stuff..
Killzone 2 proves it running on Playstation Edge
E_x_i_l_e
teh cell?
KZ 2 looks good, but it doesn't top gears...
The Cell is able to run GPU functions are fairly good speeds.
Yes, the GPU is much less flexible, but when the game is built around the GPU, it can produce equivalent performance.
Combine this with the cell, and certain types of games will look better. And because of the non-flexible GPU structure, certain ports, and certain types of graphical styles will not be up to bar with the 360.
BYMP
It's been made clear that with Cell and RSX together do some amazing stuff..
Killzone 2 proves it running on Playstation Edge
E_x_i_l_e
hey can i take u out of my sig now?:)btw u were right imo
But yeah. I am a pretty strict graphics fiend, and I bought a PS3. I'm satisfied. However, I'm realising that, in the case of some games (I am speaking particularly of Warhawk) Graphics take a back seat to the FUN FACTOR. Warhawk just looks like pick-up-and-play FUN.
[QUOTE="E_x_i_l_e"]It's been made clear that with Cell and RSX together do some amazing stuff..
Killzone 2 proves it running on Playstation Edge
AsadMahdi59
hey can i take u out of my sig now?:)btw u were right imo
Yes, and I knew I'd be right :P
btw adrian, KZ2 looks better. Gears just looks shiny and KZ2 has about a year left of dev time. Hence the textures will be MUCH better by the end.
I see cows type that the ps3 will have better graphics than the xbox 360,
buy i am asking, how? How will it have better grahpics if tthe xbox 360 hasa much better gpu and
structure to make games?
christmasgiva
I don't know where lemmings get there info, but it's not like the 360's GPU is leaps and bounds better than the PS3's. RSX actually has better shader capabilities than the 360's GPU. Not only that, but the Cell can assist RSX whenever needed.
[QUOTE="E_x_i_l_e"]It's been made clear that with Cell and RSX together do some amazing stuff..
Killzone 2 proves it running on Playstation Edge
adriancostin83
teh cell?
KZ 2 looks good, but it doesn't top gears...
LMAO, you have serious denial issues if you believe that. Killzone 2 clearly looks betterand it still has lots of development time left.
[QUOTE="adriancostin83"][QUOTE="E_x_i_l_e"]It's been made clear that with Cell and RSX together do some amazing stuff..
Killzone 2 proves it running on Playstation Edge
Nokia_N95
teh cell?
KZ 2 looks good, but it doesn't top gears...
uncharted > KZ2 > lair > gears
lmao > rofl > lol > you
[QUOTE="E_x_i_l_e"]It's been made clear that with Cell and RSX together do some amazing stuff..
Killzone 2 proves it running on Playstation Edge
AsadMahdi59
hey can i take u out of my sig now?:)btw u were right imo
Speaking of sigs.. don't you find the:
98% of the internet population has a Myspace. If you're part of the 2%
that is able to resist stupid internet fads , copy and paste this into your sig.
incredibly ironic?
It's been made clear that with Cell and RSX together do some amazing stuff..
Killzone 2 proves it running on Playstation Edge
E_x_i_l_e
[QUOTE="E_x_i_l_e"]It's been made clear that with Cell and RSX together do some amazing stuff..
Killzone 2 proves it running on Playstation Edge
adriancostin83
teh cell?
KZ 2 looks good, but it doesn't top gears...
But Unreal Tournament does, and guess what.. UT3 is running on the PS3 flawlessly, it's the engine that runs the game, and if the hardware can run the engine, it can run the game.
uncharted
/thread
Nokia_N95
Alan Wake looks better than any game on playstation 3, better than killzone 2, so this must mean xbox 360 is more powerful.
[QUOTE="Nokia_N95"]uncharted
/thread
lantus
Animations and depth of field, yes, but technically Gears and Killzone look better.
Uncharted actually looks very good, nice sharp beautiful textures with plenty of color, great animations, and depth of field that makes it much more appealing than either, but of course they're different styles of games.
[QUOTE="adriancostin83"][QUOTE="E_x_i_l_e"]It's been made clear that with Cell and RSX together do some amazing stuff..
Killzone 2 proves it running on Playstation Edge
Nokia_N95
teh cell?
KZ 2 looks good, but it doesn't top gears...
uncharted > KZ2 > lair > gears
any of those games out yet?...NO u fail
[QUOTE="michael098"][QUOTE="Nokia_N95"]uncharted
/thread
archpro
Alan Wake looks better than any game on playstation 3, better than killzone 2, so this must mean xbox 360 is more powerful.
Havn't seen any gameplay, show me some gameplay for 360.
Its being said by the devs that it looks almost the same as the pc version, just doesn't run as good, the 360 version runs at 30fps and just looking anything like the pc version is far better than anything on a console yet.
However I must step in little to discuss some of the things you stated.
First of all I't doesn't matter if PC is DX or if its SM 4 or SM 5. Why? because the PC cannot do graphics processes that the XBOX 1 could do due to the fact that in a closed box environment your are not constrained by software IPS.
The fact is that the PS3 can do DX 10 or even 11 (and its not out) simply because the you can go to the metal of the RSX or use the Cell to create effects not possible on the PC.
DX and SM are a standard for all PC GPU's to meet, however they are also constraints which mean that you will never get the full flexibility of your GPU in a PC due to the legacy issues you have when creating PC games.
Secondly, although you what you say about GPU's getting faster and faster on PC ever 3 months or so is true, and while some of the physics are going to start going over to GPU rather than CPU bound, fedelity or graphics detail or number of colours while good do not make a game.
Yes I am going to say gameplay but for a technical reason here, The Cell allows devs to do develope gameplay in new and intresting ways for example:
Animation, PS3 is already the leading platform in animation and procedural animation as shown in uncharted, KZ2 and heavenly sword.
Physics Cell is a physics monster which allows for more gameplay e.g. LBP or distrutable envrionments etc, or collision with 1000sands of onscreen objects etc etc. Not saying that PC coudnt do LBP however its still very early in the platforms life cycle and some excellent results are allready emerging.
So on and so forth.
With quotes of 50 to 30 percent on games showing that are almost equal to anything on any platform (including PC) using Cell power there is a huge amount of mileage left in the Cell. And we havent even seen devs start to go down to the metal on the RSX to.
Two things i would like to point out.
Ratchet and Clank show how distrutable envirnoment + pixar like graphics and animation (graphics done solely on RSX) show that the PS3 and the RSX is not to be underestamated in level of graphics while still having bags of room for gameplay processing for the Cell.
Also Crysis has lost its best graphics of any genre ever, and loses it to GT5 prolouge. (Before you say cant compare FPS, cryses has been measuring stick for all games so far). Go to my thread here to take a look http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread....36#post1684036. The city of London, the cars, the grass look better than cryses.
So I expect the PS3 to be in compatition with the PC for some time, due to the sheer power of the Cell+RSX and the fact that it is closed box to.
[QUOTE="E_x_i_l_e"]It's been made clear that with Cell and RSX together do some amazing stuff..
Killzone 2 proves it running on Playstation Edge
adriancostin83
teh cell?
KZ 2 looks good, but it doesn't top gears...
Well right now no its doesnt, but Killzone 2 still has many months left of development, and yes I dare say that it may surpass Gears of War graphically
[QUOTE="adriancostin83"][QUOTE="E_x_i_l_e"]It's been made clear that with Cell and RSX together do some amazing stuff..
Killzone 2 proves it running on Playstation Edge
-L-U-I-S-
teh cell?
KZ 2 looks good, but it doesn't top gears...
Well right now no its doesnt, but Killzone 2 still has many months left of development, and yes I dare say that it may surpass Gears of War graphically
But it wont get a better score ;)[QUOTE="-L-U-I-S-"][QUOTE="adriancostin83"][QUOTE="E_x_i_l_e"]It's been made clear that with Cell and RSX together do some amazing stuff..
Killzone 2 proves it running on Playstation Edge
Heil68
teh cell?
KZ 2 looks good, but it doesn't top gears...
Well right now no its doesnt, but Killzone 2 still has many months left of development, and yes I dare say that it may surpass Gears of War graphically
But it wont get a better score ;)gears got a 10 at graphics....so how can any gamehave better graphics?
uncharted
/thread
Nokia_N95
Did you really use Uncharted? Out of all the PS3 games not out yet and you choose Uncharted to end the thread...wow:|
Ok it wasn't so much about PS3 > PC per se but basicly saying that the PS3 CPU will not be overwhelmed for some time and this shows how good it is againt the latest from PC world.
However I must step in little to discuss some of the things you stated.
First of all I't doesn't matter if PC is DX or if its SM 4 or SM 5. Why? because the PC cannot do graphics processes that the XBOX 1 could do due to the fact that in a closed box environment your are not constrained by software IPS.
The fact is that the PS3 can do DX 10 or even 11 (and its not out) simply because the you can go to the metal of the RSX or use the Cell to create effects not possible on the PC.
DX and SM are a standard for all PC GPU's to meet, however they are also constraints which mean that you will never get the full flexibility of your GPU in a PC due to the legacy issues you have when creating PC games.
Secondly, although you what you say about GPU's getting faster and faster on PC ever 3 months or so is true, and while some of the physics are going to start going over to GPU rather than CPU bound, fedelity or graphics detail or number of colours while good do not make a game.
Yes I am going to say gameplay but for a technical reason here, The Cell allows devs to do develope gameplay in new and intresting ways for example:
Animation, PS3 is already the leading platform in animation and procedural animation as shown in uncharted, KZ2 and heavenly sword.
Physics Cell is a physics monster which allows for more gameplay e.g. LBP or distrutable envrionments etc, or collision with 1000sands of onscreen objects etc etc. Not saying that PC coudnt do LBP however its still very early in the platforms life cycle and some excellent results are allready emerging.
So on and so forth.
With quotes of 50 to 30 percent on games showing that are almost equal to anything on any platform (including PC) using Cell power there is a huge amount of mileage left in the Cell. And we havent even seen devs start to go down to the metal on the RSX to.
Two things i would like to point out.
Ratchet and Clank show how distrutable envirnoment + pixar like graphics and animation (graphics done solely on RSX) show that the PS3 and the RSX is not to be underestamated in level of graphics while still having bags of room for gameplay processing for the Cell.
Also Crysis has lost its best graphics of any genre ever, and loses it to GT5 prolouge. (Before you say cant compare FPS, cryses has been measuring stick for all games so far). Go to my thread here to take a look http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread....36#post1684036. The city of London, the cars, the grass look better than cryses.
So I expect the PS3 to be in compatition with the PC for some time, due to the sheer power of the Cell+RSX and the fact that it is closed box to. highlander0659
Ah, Lems have no intelligent response to this. You know what that means,
/thread
[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="-L-U-I-S-"][QUOTE="adriancostin83"][QUOTE="E_x_i_l_e"]It's been made clear that with Cell and RSX together do some amazing stuff..
Killzone 2 proves it running on Playstation Edge
adriancostin83
teh cell?
KZ 2 looks good, but it doesn't top gears...
Well right now no its doesnt, but Killzone 2 still has many months left of development, and yes I dare say that it may surpass Gears of War graphically
But it wont get a better score ;)gears got a 10 at graphics....so how can any gamehave better graphics?
so crysis doesnt have better graphics than gears? :|
you fail... HARD
[QUOTE="adriancostin83"][QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="-L-U-I-S-"][QUOTE="adriancostin83"][QUOTE="E_x_i_l_e"]It's been made clear that with Cell and RSX together do some amazing stuff..
Killzone 2 proves it running on Playstation Edge
Nokia_N95
teh cell?
KZ 2 looks good, but it doesn't top gears...
Well right now no its doesnt, but Killzone 2 still has many months left of development, and yes I dare say that it may surpass Gears of War graphically
But it wont get a better score ;)gears got a 10 at graphics....so how can any gamehave better graphics?
so crysis doesnt have better graphics than gears? :|
you fail... HARD
yes it will, but it won't show in the scores
it's gonna be like this: Crysis king and Gears queen:)
[QUOTE="highlander0659"]Ok it wasn't so much about PS3 > PC per se but basicly saying that the PS3 CPU will not be overwhelmed for some time and this shows how good it is againt the latest from PC world.
However I must step in little to discuss some of the things you stated.
First of all I't doesn't matter if PC is DX or if its SM 4 or SM 5. Why? because the PC cannot do graphics processes that the XBOX 1 could do due to the fact that in a closed box environment your are not constrained by software IPS.
The fact is that the PS3 can do DX 10 or even 11 (and its not out) simply because the you can go to the metal of the RSX or use the Cell to create effects not possible on the PC.
DX and SM are a standard for all PC GPU's to meet, however they are also constraints which mean that you will never get the full flexibility of your GPU in a PC due to the legacy issues you have when creating PC games.
Secondly, although you what you say about GPU's getting faster and faster on PC ever 3 months or so is true, and while some of the physics are going to start going over to GPU rather than CPU bound, fedelity or graphics detail or number of colours while good do not make a game.
Yes I am going to say gameplay but for a technical reason here, The Cell allows devs to do develope gameplay in new and intresting ways for example:
Animation, PS3 is already the leading platform in animation and procedural animation as shown in uncharted, KZ2 and heavenly sword.
Physics Cell is a physics monster which allows for more gameplay e.g. LBP or distrutable envrionments etc, or collision with 1000sands of onscreen objects etc etc. Not saying that PC coudnt do LBP however its still very early in the platforms life cycle and some excellent results are allready emerging.
So on and so forth.
With quotes of 50 to 30 percent on games showing that are almost equal to anything on any platform (including PC) using Cell power there is a huge amount of mileage left in the Cell. And we havent even seen devs start to go down to the metal on the RSX to.
Two things i would like to point out.
Ratchet and Clank show how distrutable envirnoment + pixar like graphics and animation (graphics done solely on RSX) show that the PS3 and the RSX is not to be underestamated in level of graphics while still having bags of room for gameplay processing for the Cell.
Also Crysis has lost its best graphics of any genre ever, and loses it to GT5 prolouge. (Before you say cant compare FPS, cryses has been measuring stick for all games so far). Go to my thread here to take a look http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread....36#post1684036. The city of London, the cars, the grass look better than cryses.
So I expect the PS3 to be in compatition with the PC for some time, due to the sheer power of the Cell+RSX and the fact that it is closed box to. highlander0659
Ah, Lems have no intelligent response to this. You know what that means,
/thread
So if you combine a highend CPU with a 3 year old GPU and 256mb of RAM it can rival a up-to-date Computer with at least 2gb or even 4gb of ram?Both systems have their strong suits and both systems have games that look better then others. Personally though, Mass Effect looks the best. If you haven't seen GSs live demo, then head to ME gamespace and watch it there. It is beautiful.
[QUOTE="Nokia_N95"]uncharted
/thread
michael098
Alan Wake looks better than any game on playstation 3, better than killzone 2, so this must mean xbox 360 is more powerful.
too bad all the screens and footage of Alan Wake so far have come from the PC version of the game.
[QUOTE="highlander0659"][QUOTE="highlander0659"]Ok it wasn't so much about PS3 > PC per se but basicly saying that the PS3 CPU will not be overwhelmed for some time and this shows how good it is againt the latest from PC world.
However I must step in little to discuss some of the things you stated.
First of all I't doesn't matter if PC is DX or if its SM 4 or SM 5. Why? because the PC cannot do graphics processes that the XBOX 1 could do due to the fact that in a closed box environment your are not constrained by software IPS.
The fact is that the PS3 can do DX 10 or even 11 (and its not out) simply because the you can go to the metal of the RSX or use the Cell to create effects not possible on the PC.
DX and SM are a standard for all PC GPU's to meet, however they are also constraints which mean that you will never get the full flexibility of your GPU in a PC due to the legacy issues you have when creating PC games.
Secondly, although you what you say about GPU's getting faster and faster on PC ever 3 months or so is true, and while some of the physics are going to start going over to GPU rather than CPU bound, fedelity or graphics detail or number of colours while good do not make a game.
Yes I am going to say gameplay but for a technical reason here, The Cell allows devs to do develope gameplay in new and intresting ways for example:
Animation, PS3 is already the leading platform in animation and procedural animation as shown in uncharted, KZ2 and heavenly sword.
Physics Cell is a physics monster which allows for more gameplay e.g. LBP or distrutable envrionments etc, or collision with 1000sands of onscreen objects etc etc. Not saying that PC coudnt do LBP however its still very early in the platforms life cycle and some excellent results are allready emerging.
So on and so forth.
With quotes of 50 to 30 percent on games showing that are almost equal to anything on any platform (including PC) using Cell power there is a huge amount of mileage left in the Cell. And we havent even seen devs start to go down to the metal on the RSX to.
Two things i would like to point out.
Ratchet and Clank show how distrutable envirnoment + pixar like graphics and animation (graphics done solely on RSX) show that the PS3 and the RSX is not to be underestamated in level of graphics while still having bags of room for gameplay processing for the Cell.
Also Crysis has lost its best graphics of any genre ever, and loses it to GT5 prolouge. (Before you say cant compare FPS, cryses has been measuring stick for all games so far). Go to my thread here to take a look http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread....36#post1684036. The city of London, the cars, the grass look better than cryses.
So I expect the PS3 to be in compatition with the PC for some time, due to the sheer power of the Cell+RSX and the fact that it is closed box to. Rougehunter
Ah, Lems have no intelligent response to this. You know what that means,
/thread
So if you combine a highend CPU with a 3 year old GPU and 256mb of RAM it can rival a up-to-date Computer with at least 2gb or even 4gb of ram?No, and the cell in the ps3 is a striped down version, thats why they can sell it so cheap.
[QUOTE="highlander0659"][QUOTE="highlander0659"]Ok it wasn't so much about PS3 > PC per se but basicly saying that the PS3 CPU will not be overwhelmed for some time and this shows how good it is againt the latest from PC world.
However I must step in little to discuss some of the things you stated.
First of all I't doesn't matter if PC is DX or if its SM 4 or SM 5. Why? because the PC cannot do graphics processes that the XBOX 1 could do due to the fact that in a closed box environment your are not constrained by software IPS.
The fact is that the PS3 can do DX 10 or even 11 (and its not out) simply because the you can go to the metal of the RSX or use the Cell to create effects not possible on the PC.
DX and SM are a standard for all PC GPU's to meet, however they are also constraints which mean that you will never get the full flexibility of your GPU in a PC due to the legacy issues you have when creating PC games.
Secondly, although you what you say about GPU's getting faster and faster on PC ever 3 months or so is true, and while some of the physics are going to start going over to GPU rather than CPU bound, fedelity or graphics detail or number of colours while good do not make a game.
Yes I am going to say gameplay but for a technical reason here, The Cell allows devs to do develope gameplay in new and intresting ways for example:
Animation, PS3 is already the leading platform in animation and procedural animation as shown in uncharted, KZ2 and heavenly sword.
Physics Cell is a physics monster which allows for more gameplay e.g. LBP or distrutable envrionments etc, or collision with 1000sands of onscreen objects etc etc. Not saying that PC coudnt do LBP however its still very early in the platforms life cycle and some excellent results are allready emerging.
So on and so forth.
With quotes of 50 to 30 percent on games showing that are almost equal to anything on any platform (including PC) using Cell power there is a huge amount of mileage left in the Cell. And we havent even seen devs start to go down to the metal on the RSX to.
Two things i would like to point out.
Ratchet and Clank show how distrutable envirnoment + pixar like graphics and animation (graphics done solely on RSX) show that the PS3 and the RSX is not to be underestamated in level of graphics while still having bags of room for gameplay processing for the Cell.
Also Crysis has lost its best graphics of any genre ever, and loses it to GT5 prolouge. (Before you say cant compare FPS, cryses has been measuring stick for all games so far). Go to my thread here to take a look http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread....36#post1684036. The city of London, the cars, the grass look better than cryses.
So I expect the PS3 to be in compatition with the PC for some time, due to the sheer power of the Cell+RSX and the fact that it is closed box to. Rougehunter
Ah, Lems have no intelligent response to this. You know what that means,
/thread
So if you combine a highend CPU and combine it with a 3 year old GPU with 256mb of RAM it can rival a up-to-date Computer with at least 2gbor even 4gb of ram?The Cell is not merely up to date. It's a super advanced piece of technology. Also, the RAM in the PS3 is far more efficient than the type in the 360, therefore, less is more in this case. Furthermore, the RSX is a lot better than people give it credit for. GT5's graphics were done with out aid from the Cell and it looks better than Crysis. Remember the Cell also doubles as a GPU as well so when it's functions become inplemented properly it'll DESTROY the 360 and any PC for several years to come.
it just amazes me that lemmings choose to be blinded by thier fanboyism. they refuse to accsept the fact that games on PS3 look better than 360Nokia_N95do you think it meant anything last gen with the PS2 and Xbox for the cows?oh nevermind cows cared about "teh games"
[QUOTE="Rougehunter"][QUOTE="highlander0659"][QUOTE="highlander0659"]Ok it wasn't so much about PS3 > PC per se but basicly saying that the PS3 CPU will not be overwhelmed for some time and this shows how good it is againt the latest from PC world.
However I must step in little to discuss some of the things you stated.
First of all I't doesn't matter if PC is DX or if its SM 4 or SM 5. Why? because the PC cannot do graphics processes that the XBOX 1 could do due to the fact that in a closed box environment your are not constrained by software IPS.
The fact is that the PS3 can do DX 10 or even 11 (and its not out) simply because the you can go to the metal of the RSX or use the Cell to create effects not possible on the PC.
DX and SM are a standard for all PC GPU's to meet, however they are also constraints which mean that you will never get the full flexibility of your GPU in a PC due to the legacy issues you have when creating PC games.
Secondly, although you what you say about GPU's getting faster and faster on PC ever 3 months or so is true, and while some of the physics are going to start going over to GPU rather than CPU bound, fedelity or graphics detail or number of colours while good do not make a game.
Yes I am going to say gameplay but for a technical reason here, The Cell allows devs to do develope gameplay in new and intresting ways for example:
Animation, PS3 is already the leading platform in animation and procedural animation as shown in uncharted, KZ2 and heavenly sword.
Physics Cell is a physics monster which allows for more gameplay e.g. LBP or distrutable envrionments etc, or collision with 1000sands of onscreen objects etc etc. Not saying that PC coudnt do LBP however its still very early in the platforms life cycle and some excellent results are allready emerging.
So on and so forth.
With quotes of 50 to 30 percent on games showing that are almost equal to anything on any platform (including PC) using Cell power there is a huge amount of mileage left in the Cell. And we havent even seen devs start to go down to the metal on the RSX to.
Two things i would like to point out.
Ratchet and Clank show how distrutable envirnoment + pixar like graphics and animation (graphics done solely on RSX) show that the PS3 and the RSX is not to be underestamated in level of graphics while still having bags of room for gameplay processing for the Cell.
Also Crysis has lost its best graphics of any genre ever, and loses it to GT5 prolouge. (Before you say cant compare FPS, cryses has been measuring stick for all games so far). Go to my thread here to take a look http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread....36#post1684036. The city of London, the cars, the grass look better than cryses.
So I expect the PS3 to be in compatition with the PC for some time, due to the sheer power of the Cell+RSX and the fact that it is closed box to. highlander0659
Ah, Lems have no intelligent response to this. You know what that means,
/thread
So if you combine a highend CPU and combine it with a 3 year old GPU with 256mb of RAM it can rival a up-to-date Computer with at least 2gbor even 4gb of ram?The Cell is not merely up to date. It's a super advanced piece of technology. Also, the RAM in the PS3 is far more efficient than the type in the 360, therefore, less is more in this case. Furthermore, the RSX is a lot better than people give it credit for. GT5's graphics were done with out aid from the Cell and it looks better than Crysis. Remember the Cell also doubles as a GPU as well so when it's functions become inplemented properly it'll DESTROY the 360 and any PC for several years to come.
If the cell is so advanced then why is the PS3 500$-$600 dollars. the most top-of-the line CPUs for computers are 900$ and up? Just like the last generations consoles will be stuck in the past while PC always evolve.[QUOTE="Rougehunter"][QUOTE="highlander0659"][QUOTE="highlander0659"]Ok it wasn't so much about PS3 > PC per se but basicly saying that the PS3 CPU will not be overwhelmed for some time and this shows how good it is againt the latest from PC world.
However I must step in little to discuss some of the things you stated.
First of all I't doesn't matter if PC is DX or if its SM 4 or SM 5. Why? because the PC cannot do graphics processes that the XBOX 1 could do due to the fact that in a closed box environment your are not constrained by software IPS.
The fact is that the PS3 can do DX 10 or even 11 (and its not out) simply because the you can go to the metal of the RSX or use the Cell to create effects not possible on the PC.
DX and SM are a standard for all PC GPU's to meet, however they are also constraints which mean that you will never get the full flexibility of your GPU in a PC due to the legacy issues you have when creating PC games.
Secondly, although you what you say about GPU's getting faster and faster on PC ever 3 months or so is true, and while some of the physics are going to start going over to GPU rather than CPU bound, fedelity or graphics detail or number of colours while good do not make a game.
Yes I am going to say gameplay but for a technical reason here, The Cell allows devs to do develope gameplay in new and intresting ways for example:
Animation, PS3 is already the leading platform in animation and procedural animation as shown in uncharted, KZ2 and heavenly sword.
Physics Cell is a physics monster which allows for more gameplay e.g. LBP or distrutable envrionments etc, or collision with 1000sands of onscreen objects etc etc. Not saying that PC coudnt do LBP however its still very early in the platforms life cycle and some excellent results are allready emerging.
So on and so forth.
With quotes of 50 to 30 percent on games showing that are almost equal to anything on any platform (including PC) using Cell power there is a huge amount of mileage left in the Cell. And we havent even seen devs start to go down to the metal on the RSX to.
Two things i would like to point out.
Ratchet and Clank show how distrutable envirnoment + pixar like graphics and animation (graphics done solely on RSX) show that the PS3 and the RSX is not to be underestamated in level of graphics while still having bags of room for gameplay processing for the Cell.
Also Crysis has lost its best graphics of any genre ever, and loses it to GT5 prolouge. (Before you say cant compare FPS, cryses has been measuring stick for all games so far). Go to my thread here to take a look http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread....36#post1684036. The city of London, the cars, the grass look better than cryses.
So I expect the PS3 to be in compatition with the PC for some time, due to the sheer power of the Cell+RSX and the fact that it is closed box to. highlander0659
Ah, Lems have no intelligent response to this. You know what that means,
/thread
So if you combine a highend CPU and combine it with a 3 year old GPU with 256mb of RAM it can rival a up-to-date Computer with at least 2gbor even 4gb of ram?The Cell is not merely up to date. It's a super advanced piece of technology. Also, the RAM in the PS3 is far more efficient than the type in the 360, therefore, less is more in this case. Furthermore, the RSX is a lot better than people give it credit for. GT5's graphics were done with out aid from the Cell and it looks better than Crysis. Remember the Cell also doubles as a GPU as well so when it's functions become inplemented properly it'll DESTROY the 360 and any PC for several years to come.
Crysis looks far better than GT5, in every graphical way possible, just try and prove me wrong.
[QUOTE="highlander0659"][QUOTE="Rougehunter"][QUOTE="highlander0659"][QUOTE="highlander0659"]Ok it wasn't so much about PS3 > PC per se but basicly saying that the PS3 CPU will not be overwhelmed for some time and this shows how good it is againt the latest from PC world.
However I must step in little to discuss some of the things you stated.
First of all I't doesn't matter if PC is DX or if its SM 4 or SM 5. Why? because the PC cannot do graphics processes that the XBOX 1 could do due to the fact that in a closed box environment your are not constrained by software IPS.
The fact is that the PS3 can do DX 10 or even 11 (and its not out) simply because the you can go to the metal of the RSX or use the Cell to create effects not possible on the PC.
DX and SM are a standard for all PC GPU's to meet, however they are also constraints which mean that you will never get the full flexibility of your GPU in a PC due to the legacy issues you have when creating PC games.
Secondly, although you what you say about GPU's getting faster and faster on PC ever 3 months or so is true, and while some of the physics are going to start going over to GPU rather than CPU bound, fedelity or graphics detail or number of colours while good do not make a game.
Yes I am going to say gameplay but for a technical reason here, The Cell allows devs to do develope gameplay in new and intresting ways for example:
Animation, PS3 is already the leading platform in animation and procedural animation as shown in uncharted, KZ2 and heavenly sword.
Physics Cell is a physics monster which allows for more gameplay e.g. LBP or distrutable envrionments etc, or collision with 1000sands of onscreen objects etc etc. Not saying that PC coudnt do LBP however its still very early in the platforms life cycle and some excellent results are allready emerging.
So on and so forth.
With quotes of 50 to 30 percent on games showing that are almost equal to anything on any platform (including PC) using Cell power there is a huge amount of mileage left in the Cell. And we havent even seen devs start to go down to the metal on the RSX to.
Two things i would like to point out.
Ratchet and Clank show how distrutable envirnoment + pixar like graphics and animation (graphics done solely on RSX) show that the PS3 and the RSX is not to be underestamated in level of graphics while still having bags of room for gameplay processing for the Cell.
Also Crysis has lost its best graphics of any genre ever, and loses it to GT5 prolouge. (Before you say cant compare FPS, cryses has been measuring stick for all games so far). Go to my thread here to take a look http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread....36#post1684036. The city of London, the cars, the grass look better than cryses.
So I expect the PS3 to be in compatition with the PC for some time, due to the sheer power of the Cell+RSX and the fact that it is closed box to. Rougehunter
Ah, Lems have no intelligent response to this. You know what that means,
/thread
So if you combine a highend CPU and combine it with a 3 year old GPU with 256mb of RAM it can rival a up-to-date Computer with at least 2gbor even 4gb of ram?The Cell is not merely up to date. It's a super advanced piece of technology. Also, the RAM in the PS3 is far more efficient than the type in the 360, therefore, less is more in this case. Furthermore, the RSX is a lot better than people give it credit for. GT5's graphics were done with out aid from the Cell and it looks better than Crysis. Remember the Cell also doubles as a GPU as well so when it's functions become inplemented properly it'll DESTROY the 360 and any PC for several years to come.
If the cell is so advanced then why is the PS3 500$600 dollars. the most top-of-the line CPUs for computers are 900$ and up? Just like the last generations consoles will be stuck in the past while PC always evolve.Because its BS, A mid ranged pc can out perform the ps3
[QUOTE="highlander0659"][QUOTE="Rougehunter"][QUOTE="highlander0659"][QUOTE="highlander0659"]Ok it wasn't so much about PS3 > PC per se but basicly saying that the PS3 CPU will not be overwhelmed for some time and this shows how good it is againt the latest from PC world.
However I must step in little to discuss some of the things you stated.
First of all I't doesn't matter if PC is DX or if its SM 4 or SM 5. Why? because the PC cannot do graphics processes that the XBOX 1 could do due to the fact that in a closed box environment your are not constrained by software IPS.
The fact is that the PS3 can do DX 10 or even 11 (and its not out) simply because the you can go to the metal of the RSX or use the Cell to create effects not possible on the PC.
DX and SM are a standard for all PC GPU's to meet, however they are also constraints which mean that you will never get the full flexibility of your GPU in a PC due to the legacy issues you have when creating PC games.
Secondly, although you what you say about GPU's getting faster and faster on PC ever 3 months or so is true, and while some of the physics are going to start going over to GPU rather than CPU bound, fedelity or graphics detail or number of colours while good do not make a game.
Yes I am going to say gameplay but for a technical reason here, The Cell allows devs to do develope gameplay in new and intresting ways for example:
Animation, PS3 is already the leading platform in animation and procedural animation as shown in uncharted, KZ2 and heavenly sword.
Physics Cell is a physics monster which allows for more gameplay e.g. LBP or distrutable envrionments etc, or collision with 1000sands of onscreen objects etc etc. Not saying that PC coudnt do LBP however its still very early in the platforms life cycle and some excellent results are allready emerging.
So on and so forth.
With quotes of 50 to 30 percent on games showing that are almost equal to anything on any platform (including PC) using Cell power there is a huge amount of mileage left in the Cell. And we havent even seen devs start to go down to the metal on the RSX to.
Two things i would like to point out.
Ratchet and Clank show how distrutable envirnoment + pixar like graphics and animation (graphics done solely on RSX) show that the PS3 and the RSX is not to be underestamated in level of graphics while still having bags of room for gameplay processing for the Cell.
Also Crysis has lost its best graphics of any genre ever, and loses it to GT5 prolouge. (Before you say cant compare FPS, cryses has been measuring stick for all games so far). Go to my thread here to take a look http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread....36#post1684036. The city of London, the cars, the grass look better than cryses.
So I expect the PS3 to be in compatition with the PC for some time, due to the sheer power of the Cell+RSX and the fact that it is closed box to. Rougehunter
Ah, Lems have no intelligent response to this. You know what that means,
/thread
So if you combine a highend CPU and combine it with a 3 year old GPU with 256mb of RAM it can rival a up-to-date Computer with at least 2gbor even 4gb of ram?The Cell is not merely up to date. It's a super advanced piece of technology. Also, the RAM in the PS3 is far more efficient than the type in the 360, therefore, less is more in this case. Furthermore, the RSX is a lot better than people give it credit for. GT5's graphics were done with out aid from the Cell and it looks better than Crysis. Remember the Cell also doubles as a GPU as well so when it's functions become inplemented properly it'll DESTROY the 360 and any PC for several years to come.
If the cell is so advanced then why is the PS3 500$600 dollars. the most top-of-the line CPUs for computers are 900$ and up? Just like the last generations consoles will be stuck in the past while PC always evole.The PS3 is underpriced like most next gen hardware. Normally when they sell high-end hardware it's sold for a profit. However, the gaming industry is different. Things are sold at a deficit. Geez everyone knows this.
This generation is going to be defined by its gameplay, physics, animations, and creativity. Only with having a system based on the Cell processor is Sony going to be able to keep up with the software development curve this time around.
So many things will be done on the PC in the next two to three years that will leave consoles behind. The Cell allows Sony to follow along that development curve while the competition begins to drop off. By leveraging their market leadership in tandem with a superior base model system, Sony may be able to extend the next generation farther than they could with the PS2 and the Cell is central to that strategy.
it just amazes me that lemmings choose to be blinded by thier fanboyism. they refuse to accsept the fact that games on PS3 look better than 360Nokia_N95
shut up level 2
and uhhh 90% of multiplats are better on the 360 so no they don't
[QUOTE="E_x_i_l_e"]It's been made clear that with Cell and RSX together do some amazing stuff..
Killzone 2 proves it running on Playstation Edge
adriancostin83
teh cell?
KZ 2 looks good, but it doesn't top gears...
Yes it does. There is way more going on in KZ2 than GeoW. There is more to graphics than just Textures. If I was using lemming logic I could just make a 512MB texture and throw it up on thse screen so it will have better graphics than GeoW.
Is it so hard to understand that the Cell can be used in conjunction with RSX. I don't get teh cell? comments.
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