HS Strike 1, Lair Strike 2, R&C Stirke 3. Can Uncharted Save Sony This Holi

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#1 PSP107
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It's kinda sad the most decent game on PS3 is Rachet/Clank. My only experience with the series is via demos which i think our fun but i never bought them. Now after playing Tools Of Destruction last night at best buy, The game feels and looks like a PS2 game. Again since i never played through one of the series, even i think this game would be better if it was more open world.

So for vets of the series who played it, is this a leap over the PS2 games?

Can Uncharted and a $399 no BC save PS3 this holiday season?

I say bring back Jak/Daxter and Sly Cooper.

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#2 Cubs360
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Forgot about Motorstorm...
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#3 deactivated-5f956b96dc672
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against mass effect and more halo3? n way
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#4 ultima-flare
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looks like a PS2 game.

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#5 Paddy345
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In europe it's can halo 3, mass effect and bioshock save 360 and looking at our sales no
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#6 Duo75
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"Looks like a ps2 game"

Right. thats why even gamespots review praised the graphics. This game has done very well critically everywhere exept here and it will still sell well. Its not a strike, more like a ground ball. And Oh and what about Warhawk?

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#7 SageJMP
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you realize the majority ofshoppers don't even know about the scores on gamespot?

really the only people who really worry about scores is those who want to use it as ownage.

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#8 PSP107
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"Looks like a ps2 game"

Right. thats why even gamespots review praised the graphics. This game has done very well critically everywhere exept here and it will still sell well. Its not a strike, more like a ground ball. And Oh and what about Warhawk?

Duo75

A ground ball is most likly is an out. Bottom Line is this a system seller? I played motorstorm and that game suck. I was looking forward to this when it was announced at e3 2005. This game has the next gen graphics but where is the speed, the rumble(back now), multiplayer splitscreen?

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#9 fiveftwang
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I hope you know that System Wars doesn't determine Christmas for any console. The game got good scores around the boards, you're just a fanboy who clearly has no idea what he is talking about.
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[QUOTE="Duo75"]

"Looks like a ps2 game"

Right. thats why even gamespots review praised the graphics. This game has done very well critically everywhere exept here and it will still sell well. Its not a strike, more like a ground ball. And Oh and what about Warhawk?

PSP107

A ground ball is most likly is an out. Bottom Line is this a system seller? I played motorstorm and that game suck. I was looking forward to this when it was announced at e3 2005. This game has the next gen graphics but where is the speed, the rumble(back now), multiplayer splitscreen?

MotorStorm is a million seller and was a system seller, Uncharted will be a lot better than that game, No questions asked. Resistance and WArhawk are more fun that R&C imo.

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#11 XenoNinja
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I played R&C in a store and to be honest, the graphics kinda looked and reminded me of the Sega Mater System.:|
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#12 fiveftwang
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I played R&C in a store and to be honest, the graphics kinda looked and reminded me of the Sega Mater System.:|XenoNinja

This is funny coming from a sheep. :lol:

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It's kinda sad the most decent game on PS3 is Rachet/Clank. My only experience with the series is via demos which i think our fun but i never bought them. Now after playing Tools Of Destruction last night at best buy, The game feels and looks like a PS2 game. Again since i never played through one of the series, even i think this game would be better if it was more open world.

So for vets of the series who played it, is this a leap over the PS2 games?

Can Uncharted and a $399 no BC save PS3 this holiday season?

I say bring back Jak/Daxter and Sly Cooper.

PSP107

R&C: FTOD looks like a ps2 game? I highly disagree.

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Even if Uncharted gets AAA it will have been over a year without an exclusive AAA game. Thats the worst ever for a console, that I can remember.
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I played R&C in a store and to be honest, the graphics kinda looked and reminded me of the Sega Mater System.:|XenoNinja

*laughs* But all jokes aside the graphics dont look like a leap over PS2.

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[QUOTE="PSP107"][QUOTE="Duo75"]

"Looks like a ps2 game"

Right. thats why even gamespots review praised the graphics. This game has done very well critically everywhere exept here and it will still sell well. Its not a strike, more like a ground ball. And Oh and what about Warhawk?

Adrian_Cloud

A ground ball is most likly is an out. Bottom Line is this a system seller? I played motorstorm and that game suck. I was looking forward to this when it was announced at e3 2005. This game has the next gen graphics but where is the speed, the rumble(back now), multiplayer splitscreen?

MotorStorm is a million seller and was a system seller, Uncharted will be a lot better than that game, No questions asked. Resistance and WArhawk are more fun that R&C imo.

FYI motorstorm isn't a system seller. It sold good but it didn't move systems.

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[QUOTE="XenoNinja"]I played R&C in a store and to be honest, the graphics kinda looked and reminded me of the Sega Mater System.:|PSP107

*laughs* But all jokes aside the graphics dont look like a leap over PS2.

That's what I always thought yet there were countless threads about it being the best graphics ever, closest to Pixarand GOTY.

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#18 deactivated-59603ff9b9423
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The game looks like a PS2 game.

What? Take off your Lemming goggles pathetic fanboy. :roll:

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#19 sexy_chimp
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I love how people here think System Wars represents real life. In real life, R&C isn't a flop in quality and probably won't be in sales. Heavenly Sword was a flop in sales. Lair was a flop in both sales and quality.

Please, get out more.

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#20 SageJMP
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Even if Uncharted gets AAA it will have been over a year without an exclusive AAA game. Thats the worst ever for a console, that I can remember.Danthegamingman

Oh no, a year without an exclusive AAA at gamespot, I'm soooo scared becausethe only games worth playing are AAAscored games atgamespot. /sarcasm

Again, a normal shopper doesn't care about scores, they go with what looks fun for them. And even if they look at scores, a normal shopper considers a 8.0+ a great score. Even gamespot reviews call 8.0+ great, in fact that only people who say games with those scores suck are the fanboys on gaming forums. Simple as that.

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#21 Duo75
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[QUOTE="Duo75"]

"Looks like a ps2 game"

Right. thats why even gamespots review praised the graphics. This game has done very well critically everywhere exept here and it will still sell well. Its not a strike, more like a ground ball. And Oh and what about Warhawk?

PSP107

A ground ball is most likly is an out. Bottom Line is this a system seller? I played motorstorm and that game suck. I was looking forward to this when it was announced at e3 2005. This game has the next gen graphics but where is the speed, the rumble(back now), multiplayer splitscreen?

I'm certaintly not defending motorstorm, I didn't really like that game either. And I didn't bring it up in my post either. O.o Is R&C a system seller? It will move a few, but it doesn't have the following of say halo. But calling it a flat out strike is wrong. The game will sell well, a few people who are really into the series will pick up a ps3 to continue playing the series so.

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@XenoNinja

I hope your joking, cause that is the most ridiculous thing I've heard all day. :x

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[QUOTE="Danthegamingman"]Even if Uncharted gets AAA it will have been over a year without an exclusive AAA game. Thats the worst ever for a console, that I can remember.SageJMP

Oh no, a year without an exclusive AAA at gamespot, I'm soooo scared becausethe only games worth playing are AAAscored games atgamespot. /sarcasm

Again, a normal shopper doesn't care about scores, they go with what looks fun for them. And even if they look at scores, a normal shopper considers a 8.0+ a great score. Even gamespot reviews call 8.0+ great, in fact that only people who say games with those scores suck are the fanboys on gaming forums. Simple as that.

Couldn't agree more

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#24 RonnieLottinSF
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Nothing is going to save the PS3 this holiday. The 360 and Wii will win as far as sales go. I'm still probably going to buy R&C, plus Uncharted. I'm going to wait for the reviews when it comes to Haze.
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#25 pastro243
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heavenly sword and motorstorm werent bad games, also R & C got more than a 9.0 everywhere except here, thats not a strike. Uncharted will be a good game and then the big boys come out, MGS4 and FF13

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LF53hLUzpg

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[QUOTE="Danthegamingman"]Even if Uncharted gets AAA it will have been over a year without an exclusive AAA game. Thats the worst ever for a console, that I can remember.SageJMP

Oh no, a year without an exclusive AAA at gamespot, I'm soooo scared becausethe only games worth playing are AAAscored games atgamespot. /sarcasm

Again, a normal shopper doesn't care about scores, they go with what looks fun for them. And even if they look at scores, a normal shopper considers a 8.0+ a great score. Even gamespot reviews call 8.0+ great, in fact that only people who say games with those scores suck are the fanboys on gaming forums. Simple as that.

I completely agree.

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#27 sirk1264
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heavenly sword and motorstorm werent bad games, also R & C got more than a 9.0 everywhere except here, thats not a strike. Uncharted will be a good game and then the big boys come out, MGS4 and FF13

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LF53hLUzpg

pastro243

R&C has scored lower than 9's on other sites besides here. I think this is the lowest though. Check gamerankings if you don't believe me.

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[QUOTE="XenoNinja"]I played R&C in a store and to be honest, the graphics kinda looked and reminded me of the Sega Mater System.:|PSP107

*laughs* But all jokes aside the graphics dont look like a leap over PS2.

You guys gotta be kidding me. Tools of Destruction looks 20 times better than Deadlocked (and this is coming from someone whose played BOTH).

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#29 PSP107
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No way am i dissing R/C, but to me even though i'm only limited to every demo of the series, i dont see a LEAP.
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#30 PSP107
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10Presentation
Insomniac has created its most intriguing and diverse universe yet. The story is strong and ends with closure and a cliffhanger (figure that one out), while load times rarely exist.9.5Graphics
"Fantastic" is what comes to mind when describing the sights you'll see. A rock-solid framerate, crazy effects, a terrific art design and environmental activity galore. Prettiest thing on the system.8.5Sound
The recurring V/O cast puts in another high-end (and hilarious) performance. The surround sound effects make the most of your receiver as well and the musical score fits well.9.5Gameplay
Insomniac has the Ratchet and Clank formula down pat and the balance and progression of the shooting/ platforming/ space battles has been refined to award-winning levels. Fun, fun, fun!9.0Lasting Appeal
You're looking at a good 12-15 hour quest the first time through, plus a challenge mode option, tons of upgradeable weapons, plenty of clandestine areas, secret skins, cheats, cinematics and more.

Do you agree with those scores?

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I truley hope you are all joking about ratchet looking a little better than ps2 version. Its a huge difference. lol this board has gotten pathetic, fanboyism is so strong in here its not even funny.
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#32 PSP107
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I truley hope you are all joking about ratchet looking a little better than ps2 version. Its a huge difference. lol this board has gotten pathetic, fanboyism is so strong in here its not even funny. Sully28

Why do people assume fanboysism everytime u say somthing?

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#33 skrat_01
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GS scored dont determine retail sales.

For all we know RC could push systems, even though it is A on SW.
Knowing the game has quite the fanbase it will.

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#34 g-rash
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Ratchet and clank will sell because of 13 year olds that like this type of cartoonish garb.
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[QUOTE="PSP107"]

[QUOTE="XenoNinja"]I played R&C in a store and to be honest, the graphics kinda looked and reminded me of the Sega Mater System.:|Nemme

*laughs* But all jokes aside the graphics dont look like a leap over PS2.

That's what I always thought yet there were countless threads about it being the best graphics ever, closest to Pixarand GOTY.

oh man...oh man....guys please save yourself the embarassment and go to a friend of yours who has a PS3 and play the demo. You will see that its one of the most visuall stunning games out there, it has so much going on at every second, and not once does the framerate falter. This is the type of game that shouldnt even be possible.

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#36 PSP107
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Can sony just stop supporting the six axis. I failed the mention u used the six axis feature to gilde through a few rings. Is this is why lair FLOPED?
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8.5 at best
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[QUOTE="Sully28"]I truley hope you are all joking about ratchet looking a little better than ps2 version. Its a huge difference. lol this board has gotten pathetic, fanboyism is so strong in here its not even funny. PSP107

Why do people assume fanboysism everytime u say somthing?

If I said crysis looks no better than Golden Eye for N64, there are only 2 possible conclusions. 1. Im going blind, or 2 Im a fanboy.

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Yes it's a massive leap over ps2 games, especially if you played the original ratchets. The graphics imo are quite far ahead of those games, especially the level of detail in TOD is stunning and the animation and pixar like graphics. Also, I really wouldn't consider R&C a strike as Gamespot was the only place that reviewed it remotely negatively, and even so it got a 7.5. Pretty much every where else it was mostly AAA with a few 8.5s here and there. Furthermore, the series is pretty established, I believe the first game for example sold over a million copies, close to what KOTOR sold for the original xbox, so hence it's a good prelude title to the big hitters and adds nicely to the catalog of games. As for $400 ps3, there is a good chance it will sell well this holiday season simply because the brand power of playstation is huge, most people were waiting for a price drop or cheaper version to jump on one, as seen by the massive increases in sales with $100 price drop during the summer.
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[QUOTE="Nemme"][QUOTE="PSP107"]

[QUOTE="XenoNinja"]I played R&C in a store and to be honest, the graphics kinda looked and reminded me of the Sega Mater System.:|-Serpahim-

*laughs* But all jokes aside the graphics dont look like a leap over PS2.

That's what I always thought yet there were countless threads about it being the best graphics ever, closest to Pixarand GOTY.

oh man...oh man....guys please save yourself the embarassment and go to a friend of yours who has a PS3 and play the demo. You will see that its one of the most visuall stunning games out there, it has so much going on at every second, and not once does the framerate falter. This is the type of game that shouldnt even be possible.

Most likly we played the game i know i did as indicated in my 1st post. Anyway, when u seethe videos, u can tell it doesnt look that diffrent.

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#41 Stumpt25
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R&C strike 3?

R&C hit a home run.

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/932369.asp

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#42 Stumpt25
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anyway, isnt it 3 strikes and your out?
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Your thread doesn't really make any sense. Lair blows, but Heavenly Sword is a great game. It's just short. And R&C is widely accepted to be a AAA title. I realise it isn't here, but gamespot rules dont apply to the outer world, which is what your thread is about. Nobody is not going to buy R&C because it flopped on system wars.

So Sony doesn't really need saving this holiday. Heavenly Sword and R&C will both be big sellers for them, and COD4, Orange Box and other third party games will help things along nicely.

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#44 Gator08
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I was actually interested in what you had to say right up to when you said ps2 graphics. Im a lemming/sheep and im never buying a ps3 but even I have eyes :S
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#45 -Serpahim-
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Most likly we played the game i know i did as indicated in my 1st post. Anyway, when u seethe videos, u can tell it doesnt look that diffrent.

PSP107

I feel for u man...go to the doctor and get your eyes checked...I'll pay :(

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#46 PSP107
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Your thread doesn't really make any sense. Lair blows, but Heavenly Sword is a great game. It's just short. And R&C is widely accepted to be a AAA title. I realise it isn't here, but gamespot rules dont apply to the outer world, which is what your thread is about. Nobody is not going to buy R&C because it flopped on system wars.

So Sony doesn't really need saving this holiday. Heavenly Sword and R&C will both be big sellers for them, and COD4, Orange Box and other third party games will help things along nicely.

Ninja-Vox

Gamespot? Plz this is my opinion. Heavenly sword didnt push system. I played r&c for PS3 and it feels and plays like a PS2 game.

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#47 niall077
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yes strike3

proves that GS cant review a game for """", or they just have a very "american" sence of taste eg shooters and more shooters

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#48 mattyomo99
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HS is a great game so is ratchet so i really dont care what you have to say about it because you havnt played either
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]

Your thread doesn't really make any sense. Lair blows, but Heavenly Sword is a great game. It's just short. And R&C is widely accepted to be a AAA title. I realise it isn't here, but gamespot rules dont apply to the outer world, which is what your thread is about. Nobody is not going to buy R&C because it flopped on system wars.

So Sony doesn't really need saving this holiday. Heavenly Sword and R&C will both be big sellers for them, and COD4, Orange Box and other third party games will help things along nicely.

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Gamespot? Plz this is my opinion. Heavenly sword didnt push system. I played r&c for PS3 and it feels and plays like a PS2 game.



Since your such a expert.... How should a ps3 rc play? Ps3 and 360 hardware are more powerful = better graphics. The controllers are the same except sixxas. You are just being a fanboy bashing just to bash. Im over system wars this place just sucks now. I sick of argueing with 12 year olds.
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#50 i-lick-monkeys
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ratchet and clank didnt fel at all like a ps2 game and is the best in the series by far.