It works for me. Dragon Quest is the greatest RPG series ever! There would be no Final Fantasy without it. I'm pretty sure Dragon Quest is the pioneer of JRPGs
The best JRPG's tend to have protagonists that are pretty silent, so I'm not complaining, especially because most JRPG voices get on my nerves hardcore.
You know, I think ive got to agree with you there, thats the main reason I havent bought a Wii, I only had a gamecube for the Zelda games, but got tired of playing mute protagonists.
...for the simple fact that most JRPG's cannot channel the player's emotion through dialogue or action. That's why I've played hundreds of JRPG but still prefer WRPG any day since Ultima.
...for the simple fact that most JRPG's cannot channel the player's emotion through dialogue or action. That's why I've played hundreds of JRPG but still prefer WRPG any day since Ultima.
ralphikari
The idea behind JRPGs is to flow with the emotions of the story. It's not like Fallout where you can say "**** you do it yourself" if you can't feel the emotions in the story when I don't know what to tell you. Many JRPGs have moments that make me teary eyed or get me really excited about plot twists.
Yah but in JRPGs, all the other characters talk soooo much that its better that the protagonists just shuts up and allows the gamer to aquaint themselves with the backstory of that universe.
You know what I hate even more? Silent protagonists that people think have depth like Master Chief and Gordon Freeman.
Aljosa23
.. Master Chief isn't silent he talks, but he is a drab and stupid character.. Gordon Freeman is ment to be a standin for your self, hence why he never talks and you never really see his face.. YOU are suppose to be him.
You know what I hate even more? Silent protagonists that people think have depth like Master Chief and Gordon Freeman.Aljosa23
I hate talkative characters with zero depth even more :P Damn you, Aldaris and your constant lack of depth telling me constantly to construct additional pylons!
I prefer to have the MC with a voice but i wont throw a fit if its a silent protagonist.
However what i DO really hate is when a jrpg has voice overs yet allows you to name the man character. So througout the game hes referenced as him or that guy etc. Games such as FFX, FFX-2 and persona 3FES. It really annoyed me throuhout X-2 and the Answer how they kept saying 'him' etc. I havent played Persona 4 yet but im guessing its the same deal.
You know what I hate even more? Silent protagonists that people think have depth like Master Chief and Gordon Freeman.
.. Master Chief isn't silent he talks, but he is a drab and stupid character.. Gordon Freeman is ment to be a standin for your self, hence why he never talks and you never really see his face.. YOU are suppose to be him. Most silent protagonists' purpose is to make you feel like your the character. I wouldnt be surprised if Master Chief wasn't the same way. But it is pretty funny when people find depth in silent protagonists.
[QUOTE="Javy03"] Most silent protagonists' purpose is to make you feel like your the character. I wouldnt be surprised if Master Chief wasn't the same way. But it is pretty funny when people find depth in silent protagonists. Eh, I disagree. When you look at games ilke Suikoden 2 you don't really play yourself in the role of the main character. The character is largely defined by those around him. It is ambient story telling.
You know what I hate even more? Silent protagonists that people think have depth like Master Chief and Gordon Freeman.
Javy03
.. Master Chief isn't silent he talks, but he is a drab and stupid character.. Gordon Freeman is ment to be a standin for your self, hence why he never talks and you never really see his face.. YOU are suppose to be him. Most silent protagonists' purpose is to make you feel like your the character. I wouldnt be surprised if Master Chief wasn't the same way. But it is pretty funny when people find depth in silent protagonists. Master Chief isn't silent though he talks and has out of body experiences constantly through out the Halo games.. Half Life series does none such thing, Gordon never talks and you never see any perspective other than his eyes.. MC isn't a silent protagonist.
Eh, I hate silent protagonists period. KZ2 kind of annoyed me too in that Sev only talked during cut scenes, and never responded to but always seemed to reply to his squad during gameplay.
...for the simple fact that most JRPG's cannot channel the player's emotion through dialogue or action. That's why I've played hundreds of JRPG but still prefer WRPG any day since Ultima.
Tiefster
The idea behind JRPGs is to flow with the emotions of the story. It's not like Fallout where you can say "**** you do it yourself" if you can't feel the emotions in the story when I don't know what to tell you. Many JRPGs have moments that make me teary eyed or get me really excited about plot twists.
It's the very definition of "RPG" itself. JRPG's make players perform what the heroes are designed to be, WRPG's let players shape the heroes. There's less thinking in JRPG's. They can be a joy ride/sad ride/thrill ride/roller-coaster ridebut in the end, just a ride like watching a movie or reading a novel.
The original Dragon Quest borrowed many elements from D&D, and the excellent Hydlide, Relics, Lunatic Dawn series(all dead now) offered great player-freedom and plenty of choices. Somewhere along the line JRPG's became the genre as we know it and stopped evolving. Personally I find the dramatic moments in them funny and cliche - even the million-dollar shot of Arieth in FFVII but that's just me. :P
I actually prefer a silent protagonist. I like making dialogue choices. If they were to repeat what I selected it wouldn't feel as personal to me. Probably why I love Persona 3 and 4 so much.
I actually prefer a silent protagonist. I like making dialogue choices. If they were to repeat what I selected it wouldn't feel as personal to me. Probably why I love Persona 3 and 4 so much.
yokofox33
Yea but there are games with silent protagonists where you cant make choices
You know what I hate even more? Silent protagonists that people think have depth like Master Chief and Gordon Freeman.
_Pedro_
When has anyone said Gordon Freeman has depth? I would like to know aswell... YOU are the one free man. As for Master Chief, he has a voice and charicature assigned to him. As for silent JRPG characters, get over it Chrono Cross is awesome, and a good story and presentation can make up for your nit-picking. Not to mention wonderful musical composition. I like alot of more western-ish RPGs (or really action RPGs) like Oblivion and Titan Quest, but my heart belongs to the old school JRPGs like Lost Odyssey, the FF games, Legend of Dragoon, Parasite Eve, Saga Frontier, Vagrant Story, and most of all: Xenogears.
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