I am glad Haze Failed and Killzone 2 is getting a bad preview.

Shooter games need to decrease, and the best way for that to happen is if they keep failing therefore nobody buys them.

We need to see more games for other genres,not just shooters.

So i hope the negative reviews of some shooters will allow developers to change their direction and the genre of their games.

Shooters are being used too much this generation, even to a point where almost over 70% of the good and hyped games are shooters.




UnrealSin_X

shooters are fun. Haze and Killzone failing won't do anything to change that, and shooters will continue to be popular.

We need some hybrid genres is what we need. The real problem is that deep and complex games are dying off as gaming in general becomes more and more mainstream, so FPS/RPG hybrid like Deus Ex and System Shock 2 never really took off at the turn of the century as they should have to set the template for future shooters. Instead, we got Halo.

Looking back at it now, it's easy to see how far ahead of their time games like Deus Ex and SS2 were, and still are. Look at how simplified Bioshock, SS2's "spiritual successor", had to be in order to sell. The sad reality is that innovation and uniqueness rarely sells.

the F's ur problem?

just come out and say it, ur bashing sony(or at least it looks that way. ill stand corrected), no shame in that.

i knew Haze was gonna fail, and KZ2 isnt looking as awesome as it did a year ago. but there's no need to target the entire genre. there are well appreciated shooters like call of duty, rainbow six, bioshock, etc. i am getting tired of shooters, but the problem is second and third rate devs dishing these out bc the genre sells well.

im all for a good shooter. funnel out the mediocrety

Who gave Killzone 2 a bad preview? 1Up? They were the only ones to complain about "been there done that." feel. Well almost all FPS's are a been there done that, even the over hyped Halo.

As for Haze, I am sure no one knew what to expect from that game. Some sites gave it good previews, whereas others bashed it down past the point of being average. I am not really surprised by the review and couldn't care at this point, I am waiting for MGS4.

You do have a point though, to many FPS's to count for and we need more action, RPG, platforming games on the console at this point.

the F's ur problem?

just come out and say it, ur bashing sony(or at least it looks that way. ill stand corrected), no shame in that.

i knew Haze was gonna fail, and KZ2 isnt looking as awesome as it did a year ago. but there's no need to target the entire genre. there are well appreciated shooters like call of duty, rainbow six, bioshock, etc. i am getting tired of shooters, but the problem is second and third rate devs dishing these out bc the genre sells well.

im all for a good shooter. funnel out the mediocrety

mrjam0

you know, something is wrong if you want that a game fails just because you don't like it. :| don't like it, don't buy it, simple as that.club-sandwich

[QUOTE="mrjam0"]

the F's ur problem?

just come out and say it, ur bashing sony(or at least it looks that way. ill stand corrected), no shame in that.

i knew Haze was gonna fail, and KZ2 isnt looking as awesome as it did a year ago. but there's no need to target the entire genre. there are well appreciated shooters like call of duty, rainbow six, bioshock, etc. i am getting tired of shooters, but the problem is second and third rate devs dishing these out bc the genre sells well.

im all for a good shooter. funnel out the mediocrety

UnrealSin_X

apologies. but i still stand behind my later statement: i knew Haze was gonna fail, and KZ2 isnt looking as awesome as it did a year ago. but there's no need to target the entire genre. there are well appreciated shooters like call of duty, rainbow six, bioshock, etc. i am getting tired of shooters, but the problem is second and third rate devs dishing these out bc the genre sells well.

im all for a good shooter. funnel out the mediocrety

I knew it. Sony continues to try and get its so call "Halo Killer" and they continue to fail. KZ2 will be no different. The graphics look great, but the overall gameplay looks generic, just like Haze.RonnieLottinSF

You saying Halo isn't "generic"?

are you guys referencing that stupid 1UP preview? As far as im concerned, thats one of the worst previews of a game i've ever seen. Every bit of feedback i've seen so far from anyone has been between amazement, raving, just saying its amazing. Even GameSpot, which is one of the most 360-biased sources I've seen, previewed KZ2 and said it was looking extremely impressive. So 1UP doesn't know what they're doing.

Their magazine EGM is a joke too, I wasted a bunch of money subscribing to it. dont subscribe to it.

[QUOTE="UnrealSin_X"][QUOTE="mrjam0"]

the F's ur problem?

just come out and say it, ur bashing sony(or at least it looks that way. ill stand corrected), no shame in that.

i knew Haze was gonna fail, and KZ2 isnt looking as awesome as it did a year ago. but there's no need to target the entire genre. there are well appreciated shooters like call of duty, rainbow six, bioshock, etc. i am getting tired of shooters, but the problem is second and third rate devs dishing these out bc the genre sells well.

im all for a good shooter. funnel out the mediocrety

mrjam0

apologies. but i still stand behind my later statement: i knew Haze was gonna fail, and KZ2 isnt looking as awesome as it did a year ago. but there's no need to target the entire genre. there are well appreciated shooters like call of duty, rainbow six, bioshock, etc. i am getting tired of shooters, but the problem is second and third rate devs dishing these out bc the genre sells well.

im all for a good shooter. funnel out the mediocrety

[QUOTE="club-sandwich"]you know, something is wrong if you want that a game fails just because you don't like it. :| don't like it, don't buy it, simple as that.UnrealSin_X

Who gave Killzone 2 a bad preview? 1Up? They were the only ones to complain about "been there done that." feel. Well almost all FPS's are a been there done that, even the over hyped Halo.

Delsage

I have read far more previews that indicate the same thing, it's not just 1up.

After last year FPS has come to the point that platformers reached during last generation - a genre that needs to innovate to stay alive. The problem with Killzone (and Haze) is that it has been in development for far too long and competing titles have since been released that are actually edging these titles out in terms of gameplay innovations (eg. Crysis and it's open-ended levels or CoD4 with its innovative multiplayer). The gameplay for Killzone could have been cutting edge two years ago, but because of competition, today at release it could be the same old stuff we've seen for so long.

[QUOTE="mrjam0"][QUOTE="UnrealSin_X"][QUOTE="mrjam0"]

the F's ur problem?

just come out and say it, ur bashing sony(or at least it looks that way. ill stand corrected), no shame in that.

i knew Haze was gonna fail, and KZ2 isnt looking as awesome as it did a year ago. but there's no need to target the entire genre. there are well appreciated shooters like call of duty, rainbow six, bioshock, etc. i am getting tired of shooters, but the problem is second and third rate devs dishing these out bc the genre sells well.

im all for a good shooter. funnel out the mediocrety

UnrealSin_X

apologies. but i still stand behind my later statement: i knew Haze was gonna fail, and KZ2 isnt looking as awesome as it did a year ago. but there's no need to target the entire genre. there are well appreciated shooters like call of duty, rainbow six, bioshock, etc. i am getting tired of shooters, but the problem is second and third rate devs dishing these out bc the genre sells well.

im all for a good shooter. funnel out the mediocrety

it runs remenisant to hollywood. notice that recently released movies and those that are soon to come are either remakes, sequals, or live action version of animation: whether it would be anime or comic books.

y? there are a few reasons:

1. they could be running out of ideas. and since last gen's rise of the shooters, its an easy dollar

2. devs and especially publishers dont want to run the risk of loosing money on sonthing original. if u listen to sit downs with devs, thay actually dont want to develop the generic game. the want to branch off to something different. but as im sure nintendo has learned on counless occations, different doent always mean good, thus devs & publishers dont want to invest their money into something that they dont know is going to fly or flop.

that's the nature of the business

[QUOTE="Delsage"]

Who gave Killzone 2 a bad preview? 1Up? They were the only ones to complain about "been there done that." feel. Well almost all FPS's are a been there done that, even the over hyped Halo.

Arhazard

I have read far more previews that indicate the same thing, it's not just 1up.

After last year FPS has come to the point that platformers reached during last generation - a genre that needs to innovate to stay alive. The problem with Killzone (and Haze) is that it has been in development for far too long and competing titles have since been released that are actually edging these titles out in terms of gameplay innovations (eg. Crysis and it's open-ended levels or CoD4 with its innovative multiplayer). The gameplay for Killzone could have been cutting edge two years ago, but because of competition, today at release it could be the same old stuff we've seen for so long.

Exactly. And when you think of the fact that by the time Killzone 2 comes out, the likes of Far Cry 2, Gears of War 2 and Resistance 2 will all have been out for over three months, well, that's a big problem.

[QUOTE="Delsage"]

Who gave Killzone 2 a bad preview? 1Up? They were the only ones to complain about "been there done that." feel. Well almost all FPS's are a been there done that, even the over hyped Halo.

Arhazard

I have read far more previews that indicate the same thing, it's not just 1up.

After last year FPS has come to the point that platformers reached during last generation - a genre that needs to innovate to stay alive. The problem with Killzone (and Haze) is that it has been in development for far too long and competing titles have since been released that are actually edging these titles out in terms of gameplay innovations (eg. Crysis and it's open-ended levels or CoD4 with its innovative multiplayer). The gameplay for Killzone could have been cutting edge two years ago, but because of competition, today at release it could be the same old stuff we've seen for so long.

Oh Rrly? Where have you read these previews?

[QUOTE="Arhazard"][QUOTE="Delsage"]

Who gave Killzone 2 a bad preview? 1Up? They were the only ones to complain about "been there done that." feel. Well almost all FPS's are a been there done that, even the over hyped Halo.

Delsage

I have read far more previews that indicate the same thing, it's not just 1up.

After last year FPS has come to the point that platformers reached during last generation - a genre that needs to innovate to stay alive. The problem with Killzone (and Haze) is that it has been in development for far too long and competing titles have since been released that are actually edging these titles out in terms of gameplay innovations (eg. Crysis and it's open-ended levels or CoD4 with its innovative multiplayer). The gameplay for Killzone could have been cutting edge two years ago, but because of competition, today at release it could be the same old stuff we've seen for so long.

Oh Rrly? Where have you read these previews?

Eurogamer:

Well, impressions are likely to be muted in some quarters for a simple reason: this is a Call of Duty 4-type trail of interactive set-pieces, and for that to work the actions that trigger each event have to be carefully measured and anticipated by the script, or the illusion falls apart. It's like a train ride through the haunted house at a funfair: things pop out at you on cue, and spotlights and sound effects are used to direct your attention. At the moment, Killzone 2's script is playing out at a set speed, and it's possible to get ahead of it, so that you have to wait for Garza to get his cue to move forward, or behind it, so that your squad wipes out the opposition in a showcase fire-fight while you're still fumbling over the buttons. It sounds like a massive problem, and it has big implications for those of us trying to preview the game, but it's just an unfortunate byproduct of designing a game this way; the illusion's only fit to judge when it's complete.Eurogamer

IGN UK:

Elsewhere, however, it looks like Killzone 2 may be dangerously close to embarking upon the same road as its predecessor in offering ambience to the detriment of its other aspects. Traipsing through the level at hand, we come across an alarming number of crates, which although are all the better for showing off the cover system, belie some uninspired level design.IGN UK

Likewise, the feature list currently reads like a catalogue of all that defines modern first-person shooters. Two weapon slots? Check. Rechargable health? Check. Minor nods towards innovation include the implantation of SIXAXIS controls – in an example we saw the L1 and R1 buttons are used to grip onto a pressure valve, with the constant rotation of the controller rotating the device. Whilst it adds a tactile element of immersion to the world, most players were left looking confused until a representative kindly pointed out the correct course of action.IGN UK

Similarly, some of the game's appropriations were sadly wide of the mark – when one of the grunts exclaims he feels 'like a spare prick at a gang bang' we couldn't help but squirm at the forced machismo of it all. None of this is to say that the game doesn't hold together – but when other offerings at Sony's PlayStation Day, such as LittleBigPlanet and Resistance 2, look to create more boxes to tick, it's a shame to see such a highly anticipated title do little more than is expected of it.IGN UK

It's not just 1UP. Killzone 2 seems to have some pretty glaring gameplay issues as of the most recent build.

Shooter games need to decrease, and the best way for that to happen is if they keep failing therefore nobody buys them.

We need to see more games for other genres,not just shooters.

So i hope the negative reviews of some shooters will allow developers to change their direction and the genre of their games.

Shooters are being used too much this generation, even to a point where almost over 70% of the good and hyped games are shooters.




UnrealSin_X

I AGREE!!!!

and i lean toward the Playstation side of things too (although i'm NOT a fanboy) and i am glad these games are failing, seriously. i can only take so many shooters, if it's not GeoW or CoD I probably will ignore it.

Actually shooters for the PS3 should decrease, they should leave that to the console that perfected the genre. Sony should just focus on their bread and butter, JRPGS, Action, Sports games?

[QUOTE="Delsage"][QUOTE="Arhazard"][QUOTE="Delsage"]

Who gave Killzone 2 a bad preview? 1Up? They were the only ones to complain about "been there done that." feel. Well almost all FPS's are a been there done that, even the over hyped Halo.

Zeliard9

I have read far more previews that indicate the same thing, it's not just 1up.

After last year FPS has come to the point that platformers reached during last generation - a genre that needs to innovate to stay alive. The problem with Killzone (and Haze) is that it has been in development for far too long and competing titles have since been released that are actually edging these titles out in terms of gameplay innovations (eg. Crysis and it's open-ended levels or CoD4 with its innovative multiplayer). The gameplay for Killzone could have been cutting edge two years ago, but because of competition, today at release it could be the same old stuff we've seen for so long.

Oh Rrly? Where have you read these previews?

Eurogamer:

Well, impressions are likely to be muted in some quarters for a simple reason: this is a Call of Duty 4-type trail of interactive set-pieces, and for that to work the actions that trigger each event have to be carefully measured and anticipated by the script, or the illusion falls apart. It's like a train ride through the haunted house at a funfair: things pop out at you on cue, and spotlights and sound effects are used to direct your attention. At the moment, Killzone 2's script is playing out at a set speed, and it's possible to get ahead of it, so that you have to wait for Garza to get his cue to move forward, or behind it, so that your squad wipes out the opposition in a showcase fire-fight while you're still fumbling over the buttons. It sounds like a massive problem, and it has big implications for those of us trying to preview the game, but it's just an unfortunate byproduct of designing a game this way; the illusion's only fit to judge when it's complete.Eurogamer

IGN UK:

Elsewhere, however, it looks like Killzone 2 may be dangerously close to embarking upon the same road as its predecessor in offering ambience to the detriment of its other aspects. Traipsing through the level at hand, we come across an alarming number of crates, which although are all the better for showing off the cover system, belie some uninspired level design.IGN UK

Likewise, the feature list currently reads like a catalogue of all that defines modern first-person shooters. Two weapon slots? Check. Rechargable health? Check. Minor nods towards innovation include the implantation of SIXAXIS controls – in an example we saw the L1 and R1 buttons are used to grip onto a pressure valve, with the constant rotation of the controller rotating the device. Whilst it adds a tactile element of immersion to the world, most players were left looking confused until a representative kindly pointed out the correct course of action.IGN UK

Similarly, some of the game's appropriations were sadly wide of the mark – when one of the grunts exclaims he feels 'like a spare prick at a gang bang' we couldn't help but squirm at the forced machismo of it all. None of this is to say that the game doesn't hold together – but when other offerings at Sony's PlayStation Day, such as LittleBigPlanet and Resistance 2, look to create more boxes to tick, it's a shame to see such a highly anticipated title do little more than is expected of it.IGN UK

It's not just 1UP. Killzone 2 seems to have some pretty glaring gameplay issues as of the most recent build.

You do realize you just went out of your way to pick out the worst things you could find to criticize a game that hasn't even reached beta yet? How shall I say this ... BEOWNED!

Now that is out of the way, let me emphasize on your points and mine.

1. I was originally talking about a "Been there done that." feel of a preview, in which you provided nothing besides the stated fact of a COD4 brand of gameplay. Now is this "bad" knowing how COD4 passed even the overly hyped Halo 3 in game of the year? I think not!

2. IGN Uk's review was more of a constructive criticism at the bad points that the developer has put in so far. They put in their complaints to tell Guerrilla what they need to fix as this is still in the "Pre-Alpha" stage, it's not even close to being complete and you try to point out it's weaknesses as if it's a 90% complete game.

3. Try going and reading the good things about it for once instead of nit picking the bad points.

Actually shooters for the PS3 should decrease, they should leave that to the console that perfected the genre. Sony should just focus on their bread and butter, JRPGS, Action, Sports games?

ReverseCycology

What, you mean the PC?:|

[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

Actually shooters for the PS3 should decrease, they should leave that to the console that perfected the genre. Sony should just focus on their bread and butter, JRPGS, Action, Sports games?

Delsage

What, you mean the PC?:|

I didn't say system I said console. :|

[QUOTE="Delsage"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

Actually shooters for the PS3 should decrease, they should leave that to the console that perfected the genre. Sony should just focus on their bread and butter, JRPGS, Action, Sports games?

ReverseCycology

What, you mean the PC?:|

I didn't say system I said console. :|

Are you saying that Resistance or CoD4 on the PS3 is bad?:|

I agree. Please stop buying shooters. Please, for the love of god stop buying them.AmyMizuno

STOP trying to impose your narrow gaming views on everybody else! You are NOT the authority on what makes acceptable gaming so stop trying to be already!!

Shooters are just as good a genre as RPGs, racers, action, adventure, strategy, fighters, and sports. There is no reason to eliminate this one genre, there's room for all of them. In fact some people - like ME - enjoy a variety of genres. I play RPGs, action, adventure, fighters, and racers, is addition to, yes... the "evil" shooters.

I don't care much for Madden, but you don't see me ranting all the time "All you stupid gamers, stop feeding EA the money to keep this tired old series. It's gone on long enough and should be put to rest".

Seriously Amy, give up this futile quest. Shooters aren't going anywhere, so just deal with that. If you don't wanna play them that's fine. That's your prerogative. Just let everybody else enjoy them while you do your own thing.

[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"][QUOTE="Delsage"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

Actually shooters for the PS3 should decrease, they should leave that to the console that perfected the genre. Sony should just focus on their bread and butter, JRPGS, Action, Sports games?

Delsage

What, you mean the PC?:|

I didn't say system I said console. :|

Are you saying that Resistance or CoD4 on the PS3 is bad?:|

Resistance is bad compared to greatness like Halo 3 and Gears of War, and COD4 is multiplat. And the TC was talking about two PS3 exclusives that one happened to be bad and the other getting bad reviews. And I was just basically saying Sony should stop having this hopeful dream to have a Halo killer shooter game, they should just focus on what made them successful like action, jrpgs, sports games, and let the shooter games be left at the console that perfected that genre. :roll:

[QUOTE="Zeliard9"][QUOTE="Delsage"]

Oh Rrly? Where have you read these previews?

Delsage

Eurogamer:

Well, impressions are likely to be muted in some quarters for a simple reason: this is a Call of Duty 4-type trail of interactive set-pieces, and for that to work the actions that trigger each event have to be carefully measured and anticipated by the script, or the illusion falls apart. It's like a train ride through the haunted house at a funfair: things pop out at you on cue, and spotlights and sound effects are used to direct your attention. At the moment, Killzone 2's script is playing out at a set speed, and it's possible to get ahead of it, so that you have to wait for Garza to get his cue to move forward, or behind it, so that your squad wipes out the opposition in a showcase fire-fight while you're still fumbling over the buttons. It sounds like a massive problem, and it has big implications for those of us trying to preview the game, but it's just an unfortunate byproduct of designing a game this way; the illusion's only fit to judge when it's complete.Eurogamer

IGN UK:

Elsewhere, however, it looks like Killzone 2 may be dangerously close to embarking upon the same road as its predecessor in offering ambience to the detriment of its other aspects. Traipsing through the level at hand, we come across an alarming number of crates, which although are all the better for showing off the cover system, belie some uninspired level design.IGN UK

Likewise, the feature list currently reads like a catalogue of all that defines modern first-person shooters. Two weapon slots? Check. Rechargable health? Check. Minor nods towards innovation include the implantation of SIXAXIS controls – in an example we saw the L1 and R1 buttons are used to grip onto a pressure valve, with the constant rotation of the controller rotating the device. Whilst it adds a tactile element of immersion to the world, most players were left looking confused until a representative kindly pointed out the correct course of action.IGN UK

Similarly, some of the game's appropriations were sadly wide of the mark – when one of the grunts exclaims he feels 'like a spare prick at a gang bang' we couldn't help but squirm at the forced machismo of it all. None of this is to say that the game doesn't hold together – but when other offerings at Sony's PlayStation Day, such as LittleBigPlanet and Resistance 2, look to create more boxes to tick, it's a shame to see such a highly anticipated title do little more than is expected of it.IGN UK

It's not just 1UP. Killzone 2 seems to have some pretty glaring gameplay issues as of the most recent build.

You do realize you just went out of your way to pick out the worst things you could find to criticize a game that hasn't even reached beta yet? How shall I say this ... BEOWNED!

Now that is out of the way, let me emphasize on your points and mine.

1. I was originally talking about a "Been there done that." feel of a preview, in which you provided nothing besides the stated fact of a COD4 brand of gameplay. Now is this "bad" knowing how COD4 passed even the overly hyped Halo 3 in game of the year? I think not!

2. IGN Uk's review was more of a constructive criticism at the bad points that the developer has put in so far. They put in their complaints to tell Guerrilla what they need to fix as this is still in the "Pre-Alpha" stage, it's not even close to being complete and you try to point out it's weaknesses as if it's a 90% complete game.

3. Try going and reading the good things about it for once instead of nit picking the bad points.

The previews all indicate problems having to do with linear, uninspired level design and lack of originality. And they weren't written by me, so I don't know why you're talking about me pointing out its weaknesses. You asked for examples of previews conveying that the game is "more of the same", and that's what they are, since linearity and unoriginality in the shooter genre constitute "more of the same". The three previews all note similar problems with the game.

And I also specifically pointed out that those preview comments were from "the most recent build", so your constant crying about it being a pre-alpha is for nothing.

[QUOTE="Delsage"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"][QUOTE="Delsage"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

Actually shooters for the PS3 should decrease, they should leave that to the console that perfected the genre. Sony should just focus on their bread and butter, JRPGS, Action, Sports games?

ReverseCycology

What, you mean the PC?:|

I didn't say system I said console. :|

Are you saying that Resistance or CoD4 on the PS3 is bad?:|

Resistance is bad compared to greatness like Halo 3 and Gears of War, and COD4 is multiplat. And the TC was talking about two PS3 exclusives that one happened to be bad and the other getting bad reviews. And I was just basically saying Sony should stop having this hopeful dream to have a Halo killer shooter game, they should just focus on what made them successful like action, jrpgs, sports games, and let the shooter games be left at the console that perfected that genre. :roll:

Who needs a Halo killer? Halo 3 is overhyped beyond belief, and as far as I knew Gears of War wasn't a FPS.

Resistance was good enough to get a 9.1 on IGN, and Resistance 2 is sounding even better, so I would say it's definitely a decent FPS on the PS3.

Edit:

On a side note, what other FPS's does the 360 have that are AAA besides Halo? You know, since Multiplats don't count and all.

[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"][QUOTE="Delsage"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"][QUOTE="Delsage"]

Delsage

I didn't say system I said console. :|

Are you saying that Resistance or CoD4 on the PS3 is bad?:|

Resistance is bad compared to greatness like Halo 3 and Gears of War, and COD4 is multiplat. And the TC was talking about two PS3 exclusives that one happened to be bad and the other getting bad reviews. And I was just basically saying Sony should stop having this hopeful dream to have a Halo killer shooter game, they should just focus on what made them successful like action, jrpgs, sports games, and let the shooter games be left at the console that perfected that genre. :roll:

Who needs a Halo killer? Halo 3 is overhyped beyond belief, and as far as I knew Gears of War wasn't a FPS.

Resistance was good enough to get a 9.1 on IGN, and Resistance 2 is sounding even better, so I would say it's definitely a decent FPS on the PS3.

Edit:

On a side note, what other FPS's does the 360 have that are AAA besides Halo? You know, since Multiplats don't count and all.

I never said First Person Shooters, all I said was Shooters, so did the TC, all he said was Shooters. But I'ma end this back and fourth discussion because one of us can't read thoroughly, and it ain't me.

[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"][QUOTE="Delsage"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"][QUOTE="Delsage"]

I didn't say system I said console. :|

ReverseCycology

Are you saying that Resistance or CoD4 on the PS3 is bad?:|

Resistance is bad compared to greatness like Halo 3 and Gears of War, and COD4 is multiplat. And the TC was talking about two PS3 exclusives that one happened to be bad and the other getting bad reviews. And I was just basically saying Sony should stop having this hopeful dream to have a Halo killer shooter game, they should just focus on what made them successful like action, jrpgs, sports games, and let the shooter games be left at the console that perfected that genre. :roll:

Who needs a Halo killer? Halo 3 is overhyped beyond belief, and as far as I knew Gears of War wasn't a FPS.

Resistance was good enough to get a 9.1 on IGN, and Resistance 2 is sounding even better, so I would say it's definitely a decent FPS on the PS3.

Edit:

On a side note, what other FPS's does the 360 have that are AAA besides Halo? You know, since Multiplats don't count and all.

I never said First Person Shooters, all I said was Shooters, so did the TC, all he said was Shooters. But I'ma end this back and fourth discussion because one of us can't read thoroughly, and it ain't me.

The Topic of the board was directed at haze/Killzone 2, hence FPS, not Gears or Uncharted hence, 3rd. But if that's the way you want to play it fine then.

What "Shooters" besides Gears and Halo does the 360 have to offer that are AAA. When in return the PS3 has Resistance, Uncharted and Ratchet which all are AAA games. Not to mention the soon rolling out of the doors MGS4, you know since we are talking about "Shooters".

So please enlighten me.

[QUOTE="mrjam0"]

the F's ur problem?

just come out and say it, ur bashing sony(or at least it looks that way. ill stand corrected), no shame in that.

i knew Haze was gonna fail, and KZ2 isnt looking as awesome as it did a year ago. but there's no need to target the entire genre. there are well appreciated shooters like call of duty, rainbow six, bioshock, etc. i am getting tired of shooters, but the problem is second and third rate devs dishing these out bc the genre sells well.

im all for a good shooter. funnel out the mediocrety

UnrealSin_X

Shooter games need to decrease, and the best way for that to happen is if they keep failing therefore nobody buys them.

We need to see more games for other genres,not just shooters.

So i hope the negative reviews of some shooters will allow developers to change their direction and the genre of their games.

Shooters are being used too much this generation, even to a point where almost over 70% of the good and hyped games are shooters.




UnrealSin_X

Unfortunately, bad games sell. Especially shooters, that is why this gen is plagued with them.

[QUOTE="Delsage"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"][QUOTE="Delsage"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"][QUOTE="Delsage"]

ReverseCycology

I didn't say system I said console. :|

Are you saying that Resistance or CoD4 on the PS3 is bad?:|

Resistance is bad compared to greatness like Halo 3 and Gears of War, and COD4 is multiplat. And the TC was talking about two PS3 exclusives that one happened to be bad and the other getting bad reviews. And I was just basically saying Sony should stop having this hopeful dream to have a Halo killer shooter game, they should just focus on what made them successful like action, jrpgs, sports games, and let the shooter games be left at the console that perfected that genre. :roll:

Who needs a Halo killer? Halo 3 is overhyped beyond belief, and as far as I knew Gears of War wasn't a FPS.

Resistance was good enough to get a 9.1 on IGN, and Resistance 2 is sounding even better, so I would say it's definitely a decent FPS on the PS3.

Edit:

On a side note, what other FPS's does the 360 have that are AAA besides Halo? You know, since Multiplats don't count and all.

I never said First Person Shooters, all I said was Shooters, so did the TC, all he said was Shooters. But I'ma end this back and fourth discussion because one of us can't read thoroughly, and it ain't me.

Sorry too inform you, but yes it is you.

Killzone2 gets a good previews: Lol, why do you guys think this game will be good? Don't you guys remember that Killzone 1 also got great previews!? Killzone 2 is gonna flop so hard!

Killzone2 gets bad previews: Oh man, look at the previews for this game! This game is gonna suck so much!!

Please do tell me what type of preview you want for this game :|