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#1 cyclops10
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OK i just finished mass effect last night and it will be one of those games that i will never forget..what an amazing experience.

Would be game of the year for me if it wasnt for the masterpiece that was Bioshock.

But aghhh the people on this forum are driving me nuts[sony fans in particuler] how on earth is this game a flop?...just because gs gave it an 8.5? WTF? it still has a 93 on metacrtic and gamerankings..and yet its still one of the biggist flops of the year.

WERE IS THE LOGIC??

Now i know i shouldent care what other people think about the game as long as i enjoyed it but to see people who have never even played the game calling it crap is just...so annoying i cant even think of the correct words to explain it.

Yes the game is far from perfect..has horrible frame rate and the graphics are last gen at times..they dont look nearly as good as the early videos sugested.

But the story..the scope....the music...i have never played in a world that was so....complete and real..its the only game i have ever felt like i was completly involved in...how my decisions actually mattered.

I dont like one company over the other and i cant wait for mgs4 and final fantasy13 and not to mention smash bros on the wii...im a games fan not a billion dollar corperation fan...so i dont care if the ps3 is way better then the wii because its the GAMES that matter.

And the fact that sony nazi's are trying to force people to to think mass effect is a flop is a horrible disgrace.

....I HATE HUMANITY..ugh.

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#2 beavisofcod2
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OK i just finished mass effect last night and it will be one of those games that i will never forget..what an amazing experience.

Would be game of the year for me if it wasnt for the masterpiece that was Bioshock.

But aghhh the people on this forum are driving me nuts[sony fans in particuler] how on earth is this game a flop?...just because gs gave it an 8.5? WTF? it still has a 93 on metacrtic and gamerankings..and yet its still one of the biggist flops of the year.

WERE IS THE LOGIC??

Now i know i shouldent care what other people think about the game as long as i enjoyed it but to see people who have never even played the game calling it crap is just...so annoying i cant even think of the correct words to explain it.

Yes the game is far from perfect..has horrible frame rate and the graphics are last gen at times..they dont look nearly as good as the early videos sugested.

But the story..the scope....the music...i have never played in a world that was so....complete and real..its the only game i have ever felt like i was completly involved in...how my decisions actually mattered.

I dont like one company over the other and i cant wait for mgs4 and final fantasy13 and not to mention smash bros on the wii...im a games fan not a billion dollar corperation fan...so i dont care if the ps3 is way better then the wii because its the GAMES that matter.

And the fact that sony nazi's are trying to force people to to think mass effect is a flop is a horrible disgrace.

....I HATE HUMANITY..ugh.

cyclops10

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#3 dhjohns
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I love the game too, but the are rules in SW. :shock: 8.5 = AA. The hype for ME= AAA. Thus, it flopped. The term "flopped" is really a term of art when used here in SW. Many games have "flopped" here, but that does not mean these games aren't incredibly fun to play. (with the exception of Lair :P ) So don't get too carried away. According to the SW rules, ME "flopped". Does this mean the game is worthless or not fun? NO, but it is what it is.
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#4 SpruceCaboose
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Again, it was hyped AAA. It got AA here. Its a flop.

That does notmake it a bad game. Simple as that.

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#5 Hockey_Slayer
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How do you think Sheep felt with Z:TP?? I loved that game but if i'd ever bring it up all I would get it LOL FLOP 8.8 SUCKS.
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#6 Frostbite24
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It is a flop, get the **** over it already.
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#7 Planeforger
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Yes the game is far from perfect..has horrible frame rate and the graphics are last gen at times..they dont look nearly as good as the early videos sugested.

cyclops10

I think that sort of answered your question. It was docked points for technical problems, and thus it 'flopped' here on Gamespot.

That does not mean that the game is bad. Many great RPGs had lower scores due to their technical flaws - it has always been a weakness in the genre, and doesn't mean much for RPG fans.

Then again, I'm also confused about what it means to be a flop.
According to the System Wars informational thread, 'flop' has nothing to do with a game's worth - yet whenever anybody posts a thread abot Mass Effect's storyline, fanboys love to throw in the word 'flop' every few posts...despite the fact that the reviewer thought that it had one of the best videogame plots ever.

It makes absolutely no sense...but that's System Wars. If you disagree with the stupidity here, then there's no point posting here.

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#8 Cooldude224
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I agree with 99% of it. The Graphics are amazing in that game. With the occasional pop in.
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#9 dracula_16
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Sounds like you don't know what the term 'flop' actually means. Let me enlighten you:

A flop is something that didn't live up to the hype it recieved. When a game flops,it does not automatically mean that that game is bad.

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#10 naval
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it is one of the biggest flop because it got much less than the lemmings expected (AAA, GOTY etc). you can see how big a flop it is just by noticing all these 'ME is great threads' created every hours or so since the game flopped
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#11 SpruceCaboose
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Flop in GS terms only means a game scored less on GS ratings than its hyped score was. It does not mean the game is bad, although that is possible.

It just means it was over-hyped. Its all part of the SWs "game". Stop taking it so serious.

Do you really think Metroid Prime 3 or Ratchet & Clank are bad games just because they flopped? Only the blind fanboys believe that.

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#12 Sonick54
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HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME?!
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#13 cyclops10
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I knew flop meant that it didnt live up to the hype but what i didnt know was that one review score meant that the comunity was able to label the game a flop...im pretty sure the majorty of people who have played the game think it lived up to the hype in terms of the overall package.

But like i said, what really annoys me is the cows who claim the game is rubbish because gamespot gave it an AA score.....i guess i should learn not to take this place so seriously.

I just hope people who arent crazy fan boys know that its a great game...

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#14 OhhSnap50893
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Stupid spreads like a virus. >.>
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#15 dhjohns
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it is one of the biggest flop because it got much less than the lemmings expected (AAA, GOTY etc). you can see how big a flop it is just by noticing all these 'ME is great threads' created every hours or so since the game floppednaval

Poor grammar aside, no it isn't. Not even close. It missed AAA status by .5. Biggest flop? :lol: Whatever. Try looking at Lair. Hyped AAA and out of respect for other posters, I won't put the score it received.

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#16 cyclops10
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Stupid spreads like a virus. >.>OhhSnap50893

What are you implying?...or are you even talking to me.

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#17 naval
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[QUOTE="naval"]it is one of the biggest flop because it got much less than the lemmings expected (AAA, GOTY etc). you can see how big a flop it is just by noticing all these 'ME is great threads' created every hours or so since the game floppeddhjohns

Poor grammar aside, no it isn't. Not even close. It missed AAA status by .5. Biggest flop? :lol: Whatever. Try looking at Lair. Hyped AAA and out of respect for other posters, I won't put the score it received.

hmm .. then why do we i see all these ME is great etc etc threads all the time. it's a big flop and lemmings still haven't gotten over it

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I knew flop meant that it didnt live up to the hype but what i didnt know was that one review score meant that the comunity was able to label the game a flop...im pretty sure the majorty of people who have played the game think it lived up to the hype in terms of the overall package.

But like i said, what really annoys me is the cows who claim the game is rubbish because gamespot gave it an AA score.....i guess i should learn not to take this place so seriously.

I just hope people who arent crazy fan boys know that its a great game...

cyclops10

hwo do you think we feel when ratchet gets called a flop, its just payback.

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OK i just finished mass effect last night and it will be one of those games that i will never forget..what an amazing experience.

Would be game of the year for me if it wasnt for the masterpiece that was Bioshock.

But aghhh the people on this forum are driving me nuts[sony fans in particuler] how on earth is this game a flop?...just because gs gave it an 8.5? WTF? it still has a 93 on metacrtic and gamerankings..and yet its still one of the biggist flops of the year.

WERE IS THE LOGIC??

Now i know i shouldent care what other people think about the game as long as i enjoyed it but to see people who have never even played the game calling it crap is just...so annoying i cant even think of the correct words to explain it.

Yes the game is far from perfect..has horrible frame rate and the graphics are last gen at times..they dont look nearly as good as the early videos sugested.

But the story..the scope....the music...i have never played in a world that was so....complete and real..its the only game i have ever felt like i was completly involved in...how my decisions actually mattered.

I dont like one company over the other and i cant wait for mgs4 and final fantasy13 and not to mention smash bros on the wii...im a games fan not a billion dollar corperation fan...so i dont care if the ps3 is way better then the wii because its the GAMES that matter.

And the fact that sony nazi's are trying to force people to to think mass effect is a flop is a horrible disgrace.

....I HATE HUMANITY..ugh.

cyclops10

Move along everyone. Just another person gone nuts, it happens alot here.

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#20 cyclops10
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hmm .. then why do we i see all these ME is great etc etc threads all the time. it's a big flop and lemmings still haven't gotten over it

well i cant speak for other people but in my case it was a responce to people putting M.E in the same league with games such as lair....

My problem is not with the score i guess...i can understand that...but to see people put it in polls with lair is...wrong.

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[QUOTE="dhjohns"]

[QUOTE="naval"]it is one of the biggest flop because it got much less than the lemmings expected (AAA, GOTY etc). you can see how big a flop it is just by noticing all these 'ME is great threads' created every hours or so since the game floppednaval

Poor grammar aside, no it isn't. Not even close. It missed AAA status by .5. Biggest flop? :lol: Whatever. Try looking at Lair. Hyped AAA and out of respect for other posters, I won't put the score it received.

hmm .. then why do we i see all these ME is great etc etc threads all the time. it's a big flop and lemmings still haven't gotten over it

I still disagree with you, but now you are changing your position. Before it was "one of the biggest flop[s]"; now "it's a big flop". Which one is it? I think it is neither. The topics you see are from people who take this place way too seriously or are bored. Simply by the numbers (which is objective) ME is not even close to "big flop" status. It missed AAA status by the smallest margin possible.

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#22 joeychew
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no logic in systemwar. The game is hype AAA here at gs. So it is considered a flop.

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#23 wooooode
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Same thing goes for most games that flopped. Like Zelda stillfantastic agame but did not recieve a AAA score.
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#24 Truewiseblade
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Just becausee a game is a flop doesn't mean that it is a bad game. TP is a game that I personally love, but accept that it is a flop, especially since I was personally one of the crowd hyping it to be 9.7.
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#25 BigJ411
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I agree with almost everyone here. Mass Effect is a fantastic game but it still is considered a "flop" because of the hyped AAA status.

(I wish it got the 9.0 though lol) It may have a 92% on Gamerankings but in System Wars we have to abide by Gamespots score......stupid but in a way fair.

Would you all consider Drakes Fortune a flop? I love the game but I never considered it one because everyone was guessing that it would get a 8.5, I thought it was a hyped AA

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I read the topic and LOL'd
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#27 GIJames248
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welcome to what cows and sheep have had to deal with, take a number

beavisofcod2

Exactly.

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#28 naval
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I still disagree with you, but now you are changing your position. Before it was "one of the biggest flops"; now "it's a big flop". Which one is it? I think it is neither. The topics you see are from people who take this place way too seriously or are bored. Simply by the numbers (which is objective) ME is not even close to "big flop" status. It missed AAA status by the smallest margin possible.

dhjohns

i still say one of the biggest flop mostly after lair and RnC. then again,how big a flop is determined by how much hyped it got and how badly the flop is taken. if crysis or halo 3 got a 8.5 then it would have been even bigger flop. doom3 is considered one of the biggest flop and so is Zelda : TP, because of this reason

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#29 Liquid-GEAR
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Sony Nazi's :lol: