I don't get the bioshock praise...

From an objective point of view I truly appreciate the game. Yes it has all been done before, but the fact is that few games ever get close to doing what Deus Ex did and this game pulls it off with real style. The depth to the gameplay is quite deep, which again is not the norm for FPS shooters.

At no point though did it truly draw me into its game world. I felt detached the whole way through. But the games strength is not how groundbreaking it is but how it manages to pull a unique turn in a genre which is defined by either tactical or run and gun.

TC..... you cant compair the first deus ex to bioshock its an unfair comparison.....bioshock is a really well done game that is revolutionary in its own way...maybe not by graphics or game play elements but in its atmospher is just increadable unlike anygame ive ever played....i hope you have your flame suit on cause calling out a front runner for goty is never good in these forums....Guitartod

Are you sure? its theme maybe new to gaming .. ART DECO. But ... its atmosphere was very similar to Doom 3's only it didnt make you jump at all, and the fear of death is removed.

I mean think about it, open spaces with enemies, then little tube-paths ... reminded me of Doom 3 when your walking on the planet surface really ... no different, both were very repetitive until the end, other than the Boss-Themed areas.

Just looking at the games you've rated and its rather interesting.

Halo 2, Halo 1, GRAW 2, Burnout 3, Chronicles of Riddick, GRAW, GoW, and FFVII, didnt actually bring much or anything new. Why do these games i listed deserve the 9.0+ scores you gave and praise?

Because they are good games even if they arent original.

[QUOTE="Guitartod"]TC..... you cant compair the first deus ex to bioshock its an unfair comparison.....bioshock is a really well done game that is revolutionary in its own way...maybe not by graphics or game play elements but in its atmospher is just increadable unlike anygame ive ever played....i hope you have your flame suit on cause calling out a front runner for goty is never good in these forums....Meu2k7

Are you sure? its theme maybe new to gaming .. ART DECO. But ... its atmosphere was very similar to Doom 3's only it didnt make you jump at all, and the fear of death is removed.

I mean think about it, open spaces with enemies, then little tube-paths ... reminded me of Doom 3 when your walking on the planet surface really ... no different, both were very repetitive until the end, other than the Boss-Themed areas.

sure in level design it is very simalar to doom but sorry a sunken city from the 40s is far far far away from a giant lab on mars 100 years or so in the future...

System Shock 2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bioshock.starwarsgeek112

Pretty much, give or take a few >. But if you've never played System Shock 2, Bioshock must seem like the greatest thing since slice bread hence the praise.

Just looking at the games you've rated and its rather interesting.

Halo 2, Halo 1, GRAW 2, Burnout 3, Chronicles of Riddick, GRAW, GoW, and FFVII, didnt actually bring much or anything new. Why do these games i listed deserve the 9.0+ scores you gave and praise?

Because they are good games even if they arent original.

XaosII

Bingo!

It was good for 1 or 2 play throughs, other than that it was a corrisdor shooter with fancy grenades. And way too easy .. the first time I died and rezzed ... I then thought " ... yah ok the setting is ruined".Meu2k7

Is there reallythat big of adifference between dying the traditional way and "dying" and then being brought back by a Vita-Chamber? :|

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]It was good for 1 or 2 play throughs, other than that it was a corrisdor shooter with fancy grenades. And way too easy .. the first time I died and rezzed ... I then thought " ... yah ok the setting is ruined".Blank1921

Is there reallythat big of adifference between dying the traditional way and "dying" and then being brought back by a Vita-Chamber? :|

The sense of challenge? at 1 point, I just wrench spammed a big daddy that was next to a Vita-Chamber, died a few times, returned to wrench him until death ... again thinking "I shouldnt be allowed to do this in a survival Horror"

[QUOTE="starwarsgeek112"]System Shock 2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bioshock.RurouniSaiyajin

Pretty much, give or take a few >. But if you've never played System Shock 2, Bioshock must seem like the greatest thing since slice bread hence the praise.

I don't get it. I played SS2 and it really isn't that much better. Bioshock has more emersive graphics and it streamlined a lot of things so there is less inventory managment and more gameplay. And yes, I did play SS2 fist.

[QUOTE="Blank1921"]

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]It was good for 1 or 2 play throughs, other than that it was a corrisdor shooter with fancy grenades. And way too easy .. the first time I died and rezzed ... I then thought " ... yah ok the setting is ruined".Meu2k7

Is there reallythat big of adifference between dying the traditional way and "dying" and then being brought back by a Vita-Chamber? :|

The sense of challenge? at 1 point, I just wrench spammed a big daddy that was next to a Vita-Chamber, died a few times, returned to wrench him until death ... again thinking "I shouldnt be allowed to do this in a survival Horror"

...or you could have just quick-saved prior to fighting the Big Daddy and tried killing him until you beat him the regular way? The majority of games have cheap quirks you can take advantage of. It doesn't mean that you should. If you start actively trying to ruin the experience for yourself, then it becomes your fault more than it is the game's.

bioshock is a POS... i hate the fact that i wasted 50$ on a game with crap gameplay and some of the worst art design ever...i mean really the enemies all looked so dumb... and when the hell did they all learn to do like 80 backflips? RE4 was a million times better then this gamekilltactics

wow your opinion seems to just fall flat on its face.....

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="Blank1921"]

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]It was good for 1 or 2 play throughs, other than that it was a corrisdor shooter with fancy grenades. And way too easy .. the first time I died and rezzed ... I then thought " ... yah ok the setting is ruined".Blank1921

Is there reallythat big of adifference between dying the traditional way and "dying" and then being brought back by a Vita-Chamber? :|

The sense of challenge? at 1 point, I just wrench spammed a big daddy that was next to a Vita-Chamber, died a few times, returned to wrench him until death ... again thinking "I shouldnt be allowed to do this in a survival Horror"

...or you could have just quick-saved prior to fighting the Big Daddy and tried killing him until you beat him the regular way? The majority of games have cheap quirks you can take advantage of. It doesn't mean that you should. If you start actively trying to ruin the experience for yourself, then it becomes your fault more than it is the game's.

Thats pretty Ironic, since Quick save is one of the cheapest features added into games.

[QUOTE="Blank1921"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="Blank1921"]

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]It was good for 1 or 2 play throughs, other than that it was a corrisdor shooter with fancy grenades. And way too easy .. the first time I died and rezzed ... I then thought " ... yah ok the setting is ruined".Meu2k7

Is there reallythat big of adifference between dying the traditional way and "dying" and then being brought back by a Vita-Chamber? :|

The sense of challenge? at 1 point, I just wrench spammed a big daddy that was next to a Vita-Chamber, died a few times, returned to wrench him until death ... again thinking "I shouldnt be allowed to do this in a survival Horror"

...or you could have just quick-saved prior to fighting the Big Daddy and tried killing him until you beat him the regular way? The majority of games have cheap quirks you can take advantage of. It doesn't mean that you should. If you start actively trying to ruin the experience for yourself, then it becomes your fault more than it is the game's.

Thats pretty Ironic, since Quick save is one of the cheapest features added into games.

Quick save isin pretty much all FPS' these days so you cant hold it against Bioshock. They're kind of needed anyway considering there are no checkpoints in the game, other than in between levels. But besides that... If quick-saving won't do it either, then just don't die. Challenge yourself. It isn't rocket science.

[QUOTE="killtactics"]bioshock is a POS... i hate the fact that i wasted 50$ on a game with crap gameplay and some of the worst art design ever...i mean really the enemies all looked so dumb... and when the hell did they all learn to do like 80 backflips? RE4 was a million times better then this gameGuitartod

wow your opinion seems to just fall flat on its face.....

[QUOTE="Guitartod"]

[QUOTE="killtactics"]bioshock is a POS... i hate the fact that i wasted 50$ on a game with crap gameplay and some of the worst art design ever...i mean really the enemies all looked so dumb... and when the hell did they all learn to do like 80 backflips? RE4 was a million times better then this gamekilltactics

wow your opinion seems to just fall flat on its face.....

Your opinion was very well put? :|

Back before Gamespot reviewed Bioshock: OMG, BIOSHOCK WILL BE AAA GOTY AWESOMENESS!!1

After the Gamespot review: Everyone liked despite the score (even though it's still AAA) and then everyone started to not like it and haven't heard of it since.

[QUOTE="killtactics"][QUOTE="Guitartod"]

[QUOTE="killtactics"]bioshock is a POS... i hate the fact that i wasted 50$ on a game with crap gameplay and some of the worst art design ever...i mean really the enemies all looked so dumb... and when the hell did they all learn to do like 80 backflips? RE4 was a million times better then this gameBioShockOwnz

wow your opinion seems to just fall flat on its face.....

Your opinion was very well put? :|

Back before Gamespot reviewed Bioshock: OMG, BIOSHOCK WILL BE AAA GOTY AWESOMENESS!!1

After the Gamespot review: Everyone liked despite the score (even though it's still AAA) and then everyone started to not like it and haven't heard of it since.

leviathan91

People feel cool when they hate on popular things.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="killtactics"][QUOTE="Guitartod"]

[QUOTE="killtactics"]bioshock is a POS... i hate the fact that i wasted 50$ on a game with crap gameplay and some of the worst art design ever...i mean really the enemies all looked so dumb... and when the hell did they all learn to do like 80 backflips? RE4 was a million times better then this gamekilltactics

wow your opinion seems to just fall flat on its face.....

Your opinion was very well put? :|

i wish i could see your logic....its just not there i guess

[QUOTE="leviathan91"]

Back before Gamespot reviewed Bioshock: OMG, BIOSHOCK WILL BE AAA GOTY AWESOMENESS!!1

After the Gamespot review: Everyone liked despite the score (even though it's still AAA) and then everyone started to not like it and haven't heard of it since.

BioShockOwnz

People feel cool when they hate on popular things.

Guess you could say that. I have yet to play the game so I can't really judge it, nor can I say I'm interested.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="killtactics"][QUOTE="Guitartod"]

[QUOTE="killtactics"]bioshock is a POS... i hate the fact that i wasted 50$ on a game with crap gameplay and some of the worst art design ever...i mean really the enemies all looked so dumb... and when the hell did they all learn to do like 80 backflips? RE4 was a million times better then this gamekilltactics

wow your opinion seems to just fall flat on its face.....

Your opinion was very well put? :|

read the second post in the thread for my opinon....its there...its best to read the whole thread before u throw out acusations

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="killtactics"][QUOTE="Guitartod"]

[QUOTE="killtactics"]bioshock is a POS... i hate the fact that i wasted 50$ on a game with crap gameplay and some of the worst art design ever...i mean really the enemies all looked so dumb... and when the hell did they all learn to do like 80 backflips? RE4 was a million times better then this gamekilltactics

wow your opinion seems to just fall flat on its face.....

Your opinion was very well put? :|

This is very Hypocritical of you, considering you whined on 2 occasions to me badmouthing Halo & Fable.

read the second post in the thread for my opinon....its there...its best to read the whole thread before u throw out acusations

This is very Hypocritical of you, considering you whined on 2 occasions to me badmouthing Halo & Fable.