I don't know what cows are so excited about

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#1 Firelore29
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The cows here on System Wars are going crazy about E3 and Sony's huge lineup of huge games. Most of those games they listed aren't even coming out till mid to late 2008. The only games that really interest me LittleBigPlanet, Killzone 2, MGS4, and FFXIII are not schedule till mid 2008.

The fact of the matter is that Nintendo and Microsoft only showed games coming out this year. Or early early next year Wii Fit (Jan 1st). Come first quarter when a ton of good Wii and 360 games start getting announced system wars will change it's tune again.

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#2 Spartan070
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Agree a little. If MS had shown Fable 2, Alan Wake and a few other major 2008 releases, tunes would be a little different.

Now next year, MS will show those titles while Sony gets titles it revealed this year. Not so cut-and-paste, but you get the idea.

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MS should have given me a reason to be happy in 08. They did not.
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#5 Xerlaoth
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MS should have given me a reason to be happy in 08. They did not.smokeydabear076

I kinda question why they wouldn't show anything from 08, but its not like *no* games are gonna come out..

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MS should have given me a reason to be happy in 08. They did not.smokeydabear076
They got rid of Peter Moore..Im happy
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#7 Eltroz
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MS should have given me a reason to be happy in 08. They did not.smokeydabear076
So they should give you a reason to be happy in 08 when it is still 07? There is still a few more shows left and they already said they were going to show 08 games in them. Also Sony knew they could not compare to 360 07 line-up that is why they had to show future games.
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MS should have given me a reason to be happy in 08. They did not.smokeydabear076

Late 08 yes, but surely most 360 users have the uber killer line-up to worry about to worry about.

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Agree a little. If MS had shown Fable 2, Alan Wake and a few other major 2008 releases, tunes would be a little different.

Now next year, MS will show those titles while Sony gets titles it revealed this year. Not so cut-and-paste, but you get the idea.

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alan wake ? lol

ill be playing the best version on my pc im sorry

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Ahh! Let the baby have its bottle!
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#11 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]MS should have given me a reason to be happy in 08. They did not.Xerlaoth

I kinda question why they wouldn't show anything from 08, but its not like *no* games are gonna come out..

Yeah I know, but something new would have been nice. Basically everything of interest that they showed I had already seen before.

BTW how do you like Overture of The Wicked?

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#12 Eltroz
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"]

Agree a little. If MS had shown Fable 2, Alan Wake and a few other major 2008 releases, tunes would be a little different.

Now next year, MS will show those titles while Sony gets titles it revealed this year. Not so cut-and-paste, but you get the idea.

legalize3

alan wake ? lol

ill be playing the best version on my pc im sorry

Sure you will buddy because it is a fact every cow has a top end gaming PC and that is why they hide behind PCs so often. :roll:
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#13 StealthSting
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Meh I was thinking this was a blind bashing thread, but in the end I somewhat agree.

It is still early to be announcing hundreads of games that will come out in the next couple of years, Sony is already doing this and people are comparing its library to titles from the competition that will only come out this year... Still, you just can't spin it. Anyone that says that Sony does not have a good list of games for the next couple of years is just fooling themselves, or they are just using a case of subjectivity...

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The cows here on System Wars are going crazy about E3 and Sony's huge lineup of huge games. Most of those games they listed aren't even coming out till mid to late 2008.

Firelore29

Sir, out of all the games shown only like four (albeit a big four) are scheduled for next year. And if Cows are excited it's because there are about to be a slew of games on the PS3. You downplay Ratchet, Heavenly Sword, Lair, and Uncharted big time. Also, all those 3rd party games that made up the majority of MS's press conference are, for the most part, coming to PS3 as well. Don't forget 2 timed exclusives. So ummm, yeah, can you still not see why Cows are excited?

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#15 cyprus646
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This is exactly how cows acted 2 years ago after there e3 they would hype games and say things like

KZ2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the entier 360 lineup Its a never ending circle for the cows Get hyped>>wait for the games to release>> game flops>>>cows go back into hiding>>>>wait for a good video game conference>>get hyped again ect ect.

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#16 Xerlaoth
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[QUOTE="Xerlaoth"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]MS should have given me a reason to be happy in 08. They did not.smokeydabear076

I kinda question why they wouldn't show anything from 08, but its not like *no* games are gonna come out..

Yeah I know, but something new would have been nice. Basically everything of interest that they showed I had already seen before.

BTW how do you like Overture of The Wicked?

I think that's kinda the direction E3 is gonna go, because really with the way the game media is now, we find out all this stuff on our own, by looking at various sites.

And I really like Overture of the Wicked, pumped for the full new albums. I know everyone hates on the new singer, but I think he has greater range than Barlow did, and the songs that were written with his voice in mind will be really cool.

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#17 Doomshine
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The only games that really interest me LittleBigPlanet, Killzone 2, MGS4, and FFXIII are not schedule till mid 2008.

Firelore29

Killzone 2 (According to Phil Harrison) and MGS4 (shown in the trailer) are early 2008.

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Let's see. Little Big Planet, Haze, UT3, Heavenly Sword, Lair, Folklore, Rachet and Clank, and Home were all shown at E3. All these games are coming out in 2007. Just because the games you are only interested in comes in 2008, doesn't mean the 2007 list is non-existence. I also want to answer the question about why should M$ make me happy for 2008? There 2 reasons.

1. Games no matter how good their are gets old. I would like to know after the fun of Halo 3 runs out, I have another game to look foward to.

2. Buying a console is an investment. I expect to invest a great deal of time in gaming, so I would like a confirmation that the system I bought has a line up that will satisfy me, not just now, but years to come.

M$ failed to do so at E3. PS3 did a great job showing games this year and next year that shows it's a great investment.

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wii fit lol
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#20 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Xerlaoth"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]MS should have given me a reason to be happy in 08. They did not.Xerlaoth

I kinda question why they wouldn't show anything from 08, but its not like *no* games are gonna come out..

Yeah I know, but something new would have been nice. Basically everything of interest that they showed I had already seen before.

BTW how do you like Overture of The Wicked?

I think that's kinda the direction E3 is gonna go, because really with the way the game media is now, we find out all this stuff on our own, by looking at various sites.

And I really like Overture of the Wicked, pumped for the full new albums. I know everyone hates on the new singer, but I think he has greater range than Barlow did, and the songs that were written with his voice in mind will be really cool.

Yeah, I remember e3 used to have a few surprises here and there, the past few times it has not.

Anyway I like Barlow more, but I do think that the Ripper is good and people should be happy that Iced Earth has someone that skilled to replace Barlow.

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The cows here on System Wars are going crazy about E3 and Sony's huge lineup of huge games. Most of those games they listed aren't even coming out till mid to late 2008. The only games that really interest me LittleBigPlanet, Killzone 2, MGS4, and FFXIII are not schedule till mid 2008.

The fact of the matter is that Nintendo and Microsoft only showed games coming out this year. Or early early next year Wii Fit (Jan 1st). Come first quarter when a ton of good Wii and 360 games start getting announced system wars will change it's tune again.

Firelore29

If the only titles you're interested in come out in 2008, that's not exactly our problem. I'm interested in a lot of 2007 titles.

Especially Haze and UT3, eh?

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#22 llidianStormage
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pfft dont me mad becuase ms did not show whats coming in 2008......this war not a sprint its a marathon

btw

2007

ps3 as haze, ut3, heavenly sword, uncharted drake, ratchet and clank, and since xbots brag about multi plats cows can to and that leaves gta4

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MS should have given me a reason to be happy in 08. They did not.smokeydabear076
that's because we're in 2007 :|
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yeah they have ONE good week and they think they've won till next gen

:roll:

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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]MS should have given me a reason to be happy in 08. They did not.nintendo-4life
that's because we're in 2007 :|

understand what e3 is about unless this new version of e3 made u forget

aboutwhat e3 is about getting gamer excited for whats to come in teh future....hm wonder why they announce new systems there,

but also to reinsure us about games coming out with in the year of that e3 MS did that also did sony and nintendo

just sony showed more about 2008 titles.

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[QUOTE="Firelore29"]

The cows here on System Wars are going crazy about E3 and Sony's huge lineup of huge games. Most of those games they listed aren't even coming out till mid to late 2008. The only games that really interest me LittleBigPlanet, Killzone 2, MGS4, and FFXIII are not schedule till mid 2008.

The fact of the matter is that Nintendo and Microsoft only showed games coming out this year. Or early early next year Wii Fit (Jan 1st). Come first quarter when a ton of good Wii and 360 games start getting announced system wars will change it's tune again.

Redfingers

If the only titles you're interested in come out in 2008, that's not exactly our problem. I'm interested in a lot of 2007 titles.

Especially Haze and UT3, eh?

kinda ironic since those games are on X360's 2008 line ups :P
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]MS should have given me a reason to be happy in 08. They did not.nintendo-4life
that's because we're in 2007 :|

You don't get where I am going with that statement so I am not even going to bother with an explanation.
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[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]MS should have given me a reason to be happy in 08. They did not.llidianStormage

that's because we're in 2007 :|

understand what e3 is about unless this new version of u forgot about it e3 is about getting gamer excited for whats to come in teh future....hm wonder why they announce new systems there,

but also to reinsure us about games coming out with in the year of that e3 MS did that also did sony and nintendo

just sony showed more about 2008 titles.

this new E3 is not for the gamers, it's for business, why should developers develop for their systems, what is the plan to get the consumers to get their systems, what's their vision, their pholosphy,... etc. that's why you didn't get any NEW surprises or new games or whatever, because that's not what E3 is about anymore.


obviously sony didn't get the letter :P nah just joking :P
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[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]MS should have given me a reason to be happy in 08. They did not.smokeydabear076
that's because we're in 2007 :|

You don't get where I am going with that statement so I am not even going to bother with an explanation.

no please do.. because i really didn't get what you're trying to say.
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]MS should have given me a reason to be happy in 08. They did not.nintendo-4life
that's because we're in 2007 :|

You don't get where I am going with that statement so I am not even going to bother with an explanation.

no please do.. because i really didn't get what you're trying to say.

Too bad.
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PS3 does have a good 07and 08line up

Haze

UT3

Lair

Disgaea 3

FXIII

BLP

DW6

KZ2

HS

Unchanted

and yes even the wii and 360 also have agood 07 and 08 line up

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#32 Redfingers
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yeah they have ONE good week and they think they've won till next gen

:roll:

cwalters

One good week that promises a very good future.

Additionally, it seems you forgot GDC, the Sony show at Tokyo, and everything that preceded E3.

When Microsoft announces a few titles for 2k8 you can continue to beat down on Sony.

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MS should have given me a reason to be happy in 08. They did not.smokeydabear076

Why, we are in 07 and they gave many reasons to be happy this year, they got all next year to make you happy for 08.

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Aren't you forgetting Mario Kart for the Wii?
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]MS should have given me a reason to be happy in 08. They did not.justforlotr2004

Why, we are in 07 and they gave many reasons to be happy this year, they got all next year to make you happy for 08.

I am thinking about the big picture.
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It just that Sony showed us that they are infact not dead and we have a lot to look foward to. Everyone already knows about Mass Effect and Halo. So on the Sony platform i was left going "Oh man...this is hot, when LBP comes out and HS and Kz2 and etc... its gonna be hot!" they talked about alot of new games to come. But on the MS front all i heard was "Halo! Mass Effect!" and i was thinking..."yeah i know those games are coming out and they are gonna rock...but what after that?" Halo and ME have been drilled into our skulls so much that I just wanted to hear that MS has sumthing else under its sleeves other than those 2 games, and they didnt show me that. (I know MS has more games coming out other than those 2)
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It just that Sony showed us that they are infact not dead and we have a lot to look foward to. Everyone already knows about Mass Effect and Halo. So on the Sony platform i was left going "Oh man...this is hot, when LBP comes out and HS and Kz2 and etc... its gonna be hot!" they talked about alot of new games to come. But on the MS front all i heard was "Halo! Mass Effect!" and i was thinking..."yeah i know those games are coming out and they are gonna rock...but what after that?" Halo and ME have been drilled into our skulls so much that I just wanted to hear that MS has sumthing else under its sleeves other than those 2 games, and they didnt show me that. (I know MS has more games coming out other than those 2)Viviath
Exactly.
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#38 justforlotr2004
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[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]MS should have given me a reason to be happy in 08. They did not.smokeydabear076

Why, we are in 07 and they gave many reasons to be happy this year, they got all next year to make you happy for 08.

I am thinking about the big picture.

And so am I. The big picture is that they didnt annouce any 08 games at E3 because they were concentrating on 07, not because there isnt any games but because they wanted to get it into everyones minds that they had a killer lineup this year. When these next Game shows arive closer to next year we will see 08 games and what they have in store for us. In all honesty you're looking at the small picture because you think E3 is the only place they will announce an 08 lineup.

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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]MS should have given me a reason to be happy in 08. They did not.justforlotr2004

Why, we are in 07 and they gave many reasons to be happy this year, they got all next year to make you happy for 08.

I am thinking about the big picture.

And so am I. The big picture is that they didnt annouce any 08 games at E3 because they were concentrating on 07, not because there isnt any games but because they wanted to get it into everyones minds that they had a killer lineup this year. When these next Game shows arive closer to next year we will see 08 games and what they have in store for us. In all honesty you're looking at the small picture because you think E3 is the only place they will announce an 08 lineup.

Everyone already knew that 07 was a killer year, they were basically beating a dead horse at e3. I never said that e3 is the only place that they will announce an 08 lineup, but it is a good place to do it and X07 or what ever is not happening this year(right?) so we will just have to wait to find out what is going on.
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[QUOTE="Viviath"]It just that Sony showed us that they are infact not dead and we have a lot to look foward to. Everyone already knows about Mass Effect and Halo. So on the Sony platform i was left going "Oh man...this is hot, when LBP comes out and HS and Kz2 and etc... its gonna be hot!" they talked about alot of new games to come. But on the MS front all i heard was "Halo! Mass Effect!" and i was thinking..."yeah i know those games are coming out and they are gonna rock...but what after that?" Halo and ME have been drilled into our skulls so much that I just wanted to hear that MS has sumthing else under its sleeves other than those 2 games, and they didnt show me that. (I know MS has more games coming out other than those 2)smokeydabear076
Exactly.

so that's what you mean? OK..... you do know why there is an E3 every year right? :?
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And so am I. The big picture is that they didnt annouce any 08 games at E3 because they were concentrating on 07, not because there isnt any games but because they wanted to get it into everyones minds that they had a killer lineup this year. When these next Game shows arive closer to next year we will see 08 games and what they have in store for us. In all honesty you're looking at the small picture because you think E3 is the only place they will announce an 08 lineup.

justforlotr2004

Wasn't this thread about why Cows are excited? No one in their right mind would say that MS has nothing planned for 08, but they just didn't show much concerning 08. Sony showed their bigs are coming in 08 but that doesn't mean the games coming this year are crap. Both companies took different strategies but, for the majority, the industry liked Sony's approach. Still, I expect MS to come forward with some big news for 08.

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Everyone already knew that 07 was a killer year, they were basically beating a dead horse at e3. I never said that e3 is the only place that they will announce an 08 lineup, but it is a good place to do it and X07 or what ever is not happening this year(right?) so we will just have to wait to find out what is going on.smokeydabear076

They know what they are doing. Although yes it wasnt a very exciting show they didnt want to overshadow all the great games coming out this year just to get hype. They will save the hype for when those games are just about to be or are already launched so not to blindside the consumers with other games and possibly effect the sales of those games.

X07 isnt happening no but they already announced a new show in the UK along with being at 3 other shows, so we will definatly see many 08 games by the end of the year.

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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]MS should have given me a reason to be happy in 08. They did not.justforlotr2004

Why, we are in 07 and they gave many reasons to be happy this year, they got all next year to make you happy for 08.

I am thinking about the big picture.

And so am I. The big picture is that they didnt annouce any 08 games at E3 because they were concentrating on 07, not because there isnt any games but because they wanted to get it into everyones minds that they had a killer lineup this year. When these next Game shows arive closer to next year we will see 08 games and what they have in store for us. In all honesty you're looking at the small picture because you think E3 is the only place they will announce an 08 lineup.

Everyone already knew that 07 was a killer year, they were basically beating a dead horse at e3. I never said that e3 is the only place that they will announce an 08 lineup, but it is a good place to do it and X07 or what ever is not happening this year(right?) so we will just have to wait to find out what is going on.

They know what they are doing. Although yes it wasnt a very exciting show they didnt want to overshadow all the great games coming out this year just to get hype. They will save the hype for when those games are just about to be or are already launched so not to blindside the consumers with other games and possibly effect the sales of those games.

X07 isnt happening no but they already announced a new show in the UK along with being at 3 other shows, so we will definatly see many 08 games by the end of the year.

Good.
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#45 black_awpN1
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1. Nintendos press conference was nothing but Pie charts and You tube montages.

2. MS only showed games coming this year and half of them are coming to PS3 same day.

In other words, Thread failed.

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#46 justforlotr2004
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Good. smokeydabear076

Anyway yeah dont get me wrong I totally agree with your idea that E3 could of been many times better, but like I said I can see why they didnt show anything. Though Im sure we will see many things announced or games that have barely been shown to be in the spotlight by the end of this year and early next.

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#47 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]Good. justforlotr2004

Anyway yeah dont get me wrong I totally agree with your idea that E3 could of been many times better, but like I said I can see why they didnt show anything. Though Im sure we will see many things announced or games that have barely been shown to be in the spotlight by the end of this year and early next.

Yeah, sometimes I just don't like to wait.:x
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#48 jasospai
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The cows here on System Wars are going crazy about E3 and Sony's huge lineup of huge games. Most of those games they listed aren't even coming out till mid to late 2008. The only games that really interest me LittleBigPlanet, Killzone 2, MGS4, and FFXIII are not schedule till mid 2008.

The fact of the matter is that Nintendo and Microsoft only showed games coming out this year. Or early early next year Wii Fit (Jan 1st). Come first quarter when a ton of good Wii and 360 games start getting announced system wars will change it's tune again.

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