I dont think ps3 will ever catch up to 360 in t0 years

With all the stuff happening to xbox 360 it doesnt look like ps3 will ever catch up to it. If a smaller cheaper360 comes out then ps3 is done for. 360 will probably sell one day longer then the ps3 will. 360 also has some awesome games that sell better then ps3 exclusives.

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With all the stuff happening to xbox 360 it doesnt look like ps3 will ever catch up to it. If a smaller cheaper360 comes out then ps3 is done for. 360 will probably sell one day longer then the ps3 will. 360 also has some awesome games that sell better then ps3 exclusives.

slipknot0129

The 360 sold 8.5 million the first year it was out. That first year it had no competition. About 6 million+ of it's sales are due to the same people buying new ones to replace their RRoD or broken in some way 360s when they were out of warranty for the first 2 years when the warranty only covered it for 90days and then 3 months. More people have bought a PS3 than have bought a 360 worldwide.

El_PS3_Best

is that why software sales are superior on the 360? Which is even more impressive if we consider the fact that the 360 suffers from piracy

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

With all the stuff happening to xbox 360 it doesnt look like ps3 will ever catch up to it. If a smaller cheaper360 comes out then ps3 is done for. 360 will probably sell one day longer then the ps3 will. 360 also has some awesome games that sell better then ps3 exclusives.

Valkyriareaper1

You all also didn't see a Slim PS3 coming and the PS3 price coming down to that of the 360 either. Just like you can't see what Sony can and will do to keep its system selling very well e.g. another price drop, new features added, new colors/styles and bundles etc..

You all also didn't see a Slim PS3 coming and the PS3 price coming down to that of the 360 either. Just like you can't see what Sony can and will do to keep its system selling very well e.g. another price drop, new features added, new colors/styles and bundles etc..

El_PS3_Best

the same could be said for you and microsoft

You so wrong TC the PS3 will catch the 360 when MGS4 releases... the Slim! No, ummm Uncharted 2 .... ummm FF ... errr GOW3? No wait ummm ooo GT launches yea when GT launches the 360 will be crushed!

On a serious note I think the PS3 will narrow the gap by about 1 - 1 1/2 mil a year, so it depends on how long this generation lasts. If its 2012 then no, if its 2016 then yes.

PS3 doesnt have to outsell 360 anymore as long as it continue being successful after all no one cares about 2nd place except SWs fanboys.

PS3 doesnt have to outsell 360 anymore as long as it continue being successful after no one cares about 2nd place except SWs fanboys.

Kashiwaba

[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

PS3 doesnt have to outsell 360 anymore as long as it continue being successful after no one cares about 2nd place except SWs fanboys.

blue_hazy_basic

You think they care about 2nd place? its all about first place here and thats in Nintendo pocket now so all what Sony and MS thinks about now is staying profitable and successful.

[QUOTE="El_PS3_Best"]

The 360 sold 8.5 million the first year it was out. That first year it had no competition. About 6 million+ of it's sales are due to the same people buying new ones to replace their RRoD or broken in some way 360s when they were out of warranty for the first 2 years when the warranty only covered it for 90days and then 3 months. More people have bought a PS3 than have bought a 360 worldwide.

ohthemanatee

is that why software sales are superior on the 360? Which is even more impressive if we consider the fact that the 360 suffers from piracy

I don't know if you ever read the magazine Game Informer. They had an issue that showed where they surveyed people who had bought 360s because of ones that failed on them and were out of warranty. I've also read on several other gaming sites where this is the case that it was estimated that 6+ million of the 360 sales are due to that fact. Software sales are higher on the 360 because 360 gamers have bought more games. It's averaged that a 360 gamer will dish out money more than a PS3 gamer will with paying for xlive and WiFi, higher prices for add-on things etc. They estimate that a 360 gamer buys an average of 6-8 more games per year than does a PS3 gamer from surveys taken. The sites that track system sales like www.vgchartz.com has shown the PS3 outselling the 360 every week since last Sept 1st and that the PS3 has outsold the 360 everywhere in the world except the U.S. where the 360 is more popular due to Gears and Halo being a gaming fenom with the 15-25 year olds here.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

PS3 doesnt have to outsell 360 anymore as long as it continue being successful after no one cares about 2nd place except SWs fanboys.

Kashiwaba

You think they care about 2nd place? its all about first place here and thats in Nintendo pocket now so all what Sony and MS thinks about now is staying profitable and successful.

I think when all set and done both systems will sell about 80 million each. I think these systems still have a lot of life left in them.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

PS3 doesnt have to outsell 360 anymore as long as it continue being successful after no one cares about 2nd place except SWs fanboys.

You think they care about 2nd place? its all about first place here and thats in Nintendo pocket now so all what Sony and MS thinks about now is staying profitable and successful.

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="El_PS3_Best"]

The 360 sold 8.5 million the first year it was out. That first year it had no competition. About 6 million+ of it's sales are due to the same people buying new ones to replace their RRoD or broken in some way 360s when they were out of warranty for the first 2 years when the warranty only covered it for 90days and then 3 months. More people have bought a PS3 than have bought a 360 worldwide.

El_PS3_Best

is that why software sales are superior on the 360? Which is even more impressive if we consider the fact that the 360 suffers from piracy

I don't know if you ever read the magazine Game Informer. They had an issue that showed where they surveyed people who had bought 360s because of ones that failed on them and were out of warranty. I've also read on several other gaming sites where this is the case that it was estimated that 6+ million of the 360 sales are due to that fact. Software sales are higher on the 360 because 360 gamers have bought more games. It's averaged that a 360 gamer will dish out money more than a PS3 gamer will with paying for xlive and WiFi, higher prices for add-on things etc. They estimate that a 360 gamer buys an average of 6-8 more games per year than does a PS3 gamer from surveys taken. The sites that track system sales like www.vgchartz.com has shown the PS3 outselling the 360 every week since last Sept 1st and that the PS3 has outsold the 360 everywhere in the world except the U.S. where the 360 is more popular due to Gears and Halo being a gaming fenom with the 15-25 year olds here.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

PS3 doesnt have to outsell 360 anymore as long as it continue being successful after no one cares about 2nd place except SWs fanboys.

Kashiwaba

You think they care about 2nd place? its all about first place here and thats in Nintendo pocket now so all what Sony and MS thinks about now is staying profitable and successful.

[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] You don't think Sony and MS care?SilentlyMad

You think they care about 2nd place? its all about first place here and thats in Nintendo pocket now so all what Sony and MS thinks about now is staying profitable and successful.

Did you just say Microsoft are a bigger company than Sony?

[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]

[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

You think they care about 2nd place? its all about first place here and thats in Nintendo pocket now so all what Sony and MS thinks about now is staying profitable and successful.

BigBoss154

Did you just say Microsoft are a bigger company than Sony?

Microsft Market value is $258 billion

Sony market value is $39 billion

As far as what the companies are worth on the market Microsoft crushes Sony.

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"] No company board members wants their product to be the worst and that is what last place is. Of course Sony and MS also Nintendo for that matter want their product to be as best as they can get. No company EVER EVER wants to be last. They will see it as they sold less=less money for them=competitor made more money. Do you think a company the size of Sony or even larger one like Microsoft ever want to settle for last place?

SilentlyMad

Did you just say Microsoft are a bigger company than Sony?

Microsft Market value is $258 billion

Sony market value is $39 billion

As far as what the companies are worth on the market Microsoft crushes Sony.

Sony Revenue: $77bill

Microsoft Revenue: $58bill

Sony Assets: $230bill

Microsoft Assets: $77bill

Sony Equity: $50bill

Microsoft Equity: $39bill

Plus Sony manufacture and/or own:

Consumer & professional electronic equipments
Communication & information-related equipments
Semiconductor
Electronic devices & components
Battery
Chemicals
Sony Pictures Entertainment
Sony Music
PlayStation
Blu-Ray

I didn't think it was up for debate that Sony are the bigger, more diverse company...?

Man I love System Wars. Where you can discuss anything from games, to company stocks. 8)

[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

Did you just say Microsoft are a bigger company than Sony?

BigBoss154

Microsft Market value is $258 billion

Sony market value is $39 billion

As far as what the companies are worth on the market Microsoft crushes Sony.

Sony Revenue: $77bill

Microsoft Revenue: $58bill

Sony Assets: $230bill

Microsoft Assets: $77bill

Sony Equity: $50bill

Microsoft Equity: $39bill

Plus Sony manufacture and/or own:

Consumer & professional electronic equipments
Communication & information-related equipments
Semiconductor
Electronic devices & components
Battery
Chemicals
Sony Pictures Entertainment
Sony Music
PlayStation
Blu-Ray

I didn't think it was up for debate that Sony are the bigger, more diverse company...?

Lets take a 50 inch sony TV and a software box for MS like windows and see who ends up with more profit

Sony TV-(what does a weigh 40 pounds?) ok then put 8 TVs on one pallet and add up those costs for shipping(sea) and trucking and storage. Also all those costs for around 8 TVs.

MS windows- (weighs 1/2 pound) could fit at least 70-100 on a pallet. Now add in the same shipping charges and trucking but much more product the charges are much less=more profit

Now parts-Software only costs the box and CD after the program is developed but unlike a TV or Camera the parts will always cost a lot and Sony still has to pay for research also.

Software makes far more money then hardware.Those two examples are small in the end but they add into showing how your revenue means nothing.

Sony Revenue: $77bill

Microsoft Revenue: $58bill

Sony Assets: $230bill

Microsoft Assets: $77bill

Sony Equity: $50bill

Microsoft Equity: $39bill

Plus Sony manufacture and/or own:

Consumer & professional electronic equipments
Communication & information-related equipments
Semiconductor
Electronic devices & components
Battery
Chemicals
Sony Pictures Entertainment
Sony Music
PlayStation
Blu-Ray

I didn't think it was up for debate that Sony are the bigger, more diverse company...?

Man I love System Wars. Where you can discuss anything from games, to company stocks. 8)

BigBoss154

Revenue means little if you have an equally high overhead

I don't know if you ever read the magazine Game Informer. They had an issue that showed where they surveyed people who had bought 360s because of ones that failed on them and were out of warranty. I've also read on several other gaming sites where this is the case that it was estimated that 6+ million of the 360 sales are due to that fact. Software sales are higher on the 360 because 360 gamers have bought more games. It's averaged that a 360 gamer will dish out money more than a PS3 gamer will with paying for xlive and WiFi, higher prices for add-on things etc. They estimate that a 360 gamer buys an average of 6-8 more games per year than does a PS3 gamer from surveys taken. The sites that track system sales like www.vgchartz.com has shown the PS3 outselling the 360 every week since last Sept 1st and that the PS3 has outsold the 360 everywhere in the world except the U.S. where the 360 is more popular due to Gears and Halo being a gaming fenom with the 15-25 year olds here.

El_PS3_Best

so you defend a point you can not prove (that more people own PS3's then there are people who own 360's)

By resorting to another point you can not prove?

[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

Did you just say Microsoft are a bigger company than Sony?

BigBoss154

Microsft Market value is $258 billion

Sony market value is $39 billion

As far as what the companies are worth on the market Microsoft crushes Sony.

Sony Revenue: $77bill

Microsoft Revenue: $58bill

Sony Assets: $230bill

Microsoft Assets: $77bill

Sony Equity: $50bill

Microsoft Equity: $39bill

Plus Sony manufacture and/or own:

Consumer & professional electronic equipments
Communication & information-related equipments
Semiconductor
Electronic devices & components
Battery
Chemicals
Sony Pictures Entertainment
Sony Music
PlayStation
Blu-Ray

I didn't think it was up for debate that Sony are the bigger, more diverse company...?

Man I love System Wars. Where you can discuss anything from games, to company stocks. 8)

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]

Microsft Market value is $258 billion

Sony market value is $39 billion

As far as what the companies are worth on the market Microsoft crushes Sony.

SilentlyMad

Sony Revenue: $77bill

Microsoft Revenue: $58bill

Sony Assets: $230bill

Microsoft Assets: $77bill

Sony Equity: $50bill

Microsoft Equity: $39bill

Plus Sony manufacture and/or own:

Consumer & professional electronic equipments
Communication & information-related equipments
Semiconductor
Electronic devices & components
Battery
Chemicals
Sony Pictures Entertainment
Sony Music
PlayStation
Blu-Ray

I didn't think it was up for debate that Sony are the bigger, more diverse company...?

Lets take a 50 inch sony TV and a software box for MS like windows and see who ends up with more profit

Sony TV-(what does a weigh 40 pounds?) ok then put 8 TVs on one pallet and add up those costs for shipping(sea) and trucking and storage. Also all those costs for around 8 TVs.

MS windows- (weighs 1/2 pound) could fit at least 70-100 on a pallet. Now add in the same shipping charges and trucking but much more product the charges are much less=more profit

Now parts-Software only costs the box and CD after the program is developed but unlike a TV or Camera the parts will always cost a lot and Sony still has to pay for research also.

Software makes far more money then hardware.Those two examples are small in the end but they add into showing how your revenue means nothing.

Sony are still the LARGER company. I'm not talking about profit, but SIZE. Sony sells, and owns, much more subsidiaries, and are a much more diverse company than MS. They have their own film (Columbia) and music (Sony BMG) industry for example. That's why I included assets.

With all the stuff happening to xbox 360 it doesnt look like ps3 will ever catch up to it. If a smaller cheaper360 comes out then ps3 is done for. 360 will probably sell one day longer then the ps3 will. 360 also has some awesome games that sell better then ps3 exclusives.

slipknot0129

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]

Microsft Market value is $258 billion

Sony market value is $39 billion

As far as what the companies are worth on the market Microsoft crushes Sony.

dotWithShoes

Sony Revenue: $77bill

Microsoft Revenue: $58bill

Sony Assets: $230bill

Microsoft Assets: $77bill

Sony Equity: $50bill

Microsoft Equity: $39bill

Plus Sony manufacture and/or own:

Consumer & professional electronic equipments
Communication & information-related equipments
Semiconductor
Electronic devices & components
Battery
Chemicals
Sony Pictures Entertainment
Sony Music
PlayStation
Blu-Ray

I didn't think it was up for debate that Sony are the bigger, more diverse company...?

Man I love System Wars. Where you can discuss anything from games, to company stocks. 8)

I said AND/OR. Sony don't manufacture Blu-ray's?

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"] No company board members wants their product to be the worst and that is what last place is. Of course Sony and MS also Nintendo for that matter want their product to be as best as they can get. No company EVER EVER wants to be last. They will see it as they sold less=less money for them=competitor made more money. Do you think a company the size of Sony or even larger one like Microsoft ever want to settle for last place?

SilentlyMad

Did you just say Microsoft are a bigger company than Sony?

Microsft Market value is $258 billion

Sony market value is $39 billion

As far as what the companies are worth on the market Microsoft crushes Sony.

It's called the Windows OS, it's on every PC.

[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

Did you just say Microsoft are a bigger company than Sony?

El_PS3_Best

Microsft Market value is $258 billion

Sony market value is $39 billion

As far as what the companies are worth on the market Microsoft crushes Sony.

It's called the Windows OS, it's on every PC.

[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

Did you just say Microsoft are a bigger company than Sony?

El_PS3_Best

Microsft Market value is $258 billion

Sony market value is $39 billion

As far as what the companies are worth on the market Microsoft crushes Sony.

It's called the Windows OS, it's on every PC.

same stuff again the 360 has less than a 5 million console lead and that wad before march

so it not if the ps3 will catch the 360 it's more like when and the answer is most likely this year.

Personally i think both are equal now.

Price point may differ but your reaally in a sense paying more upfront for a little bit extra in a sense with the PS3 in a sense with the free online,hdd,bluray so imo the price point is perfectly fine for the technology in the box.

Its the same with the 360 you get what you pay for but have more choice with the choice but pay for online (if your an online gamer that is) which all eventually add up in a sense making it eventually the same cost as the PS3 might be when you start thinking about everything.

Games wise both are equal this year an have had a slew of great titles in past months and the coming months.Personally this whole PS3 wont catch up to 360 may be in sales but imho when it comes to other aspects it holds up extremely well against the other HD twin.

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"] No company board members wants their product to be the worst and that is what last place is. Of course Sony and MS also Nintendo for that matter want their product to be as best as they can get. No company EVER EVER wants to be last. They will see it as they sold less=less money for them=competitor made more money. Do you think a company the size of Sony or even larger one like Microsoft ever want to settle for last place?

SilentlyMad

Did you just say Microsoft are a bigger company than Sony?

Microsft Market value is $258 billion

Sony market value is $39 billion

As far as what the companies are worth on the market Microsoft crushes Sony.

thats the companies as a whole an not their gaming division and how does this equate to the other being better.Also MS's profits mainly come from their OS software and various other things and the games division as far as im aware only makes a small portion of their profits.

Yup PS3 will never catch up to 360 in t0 years :P

360 will never outlast PS3. every game will be on 5-6 discs in a few years.Parasomniac

Oh so much laught so much joy... ps3 catching to 360, 360 catching to wii... wii catching to chuck norris...

Who knows? I'll go ask the oracle, but I have a hunch ps3 will surpass.

[QUOTE="Parasomniac"]360 will never outlast PS3. every game will be on 5-6 discs in a few years.ohthemanatee

Well, recently PS3 has been outselling 360 (WW), so its making great strides to catching up with it. But I think itll be a surreal dayif it does happen.(im not saying it cant happen, im just saying itll be weird) I do think 360 should have a bigger lead on PS3 since it came out a full year ahead. im personally more worried about 360 Graphics hitting a wall soon, and DVD 9 becoming a big issue for them if they dont make let devs inctall the second disc and stream it from the first, eliminating a swap. Of course, they would than need to release bigger HDDs so peopel can install there games taht way.

Oh so much laught so much joy... ps3 catching to 360, 360 catching to wii... wii catching to chuck norris...

Who knows? I'll go ask the oracle, but I have a hunch ps3 will surpass.

mazniq

nothing i mean nothing will ever catch Chuck Norris.His motion controls are the best cant beat the roundhouse kick peripheral.

Even if it did, would that really change anything? Will it change the fact that devs like deving on 360 more for there Multiplat games? will it change the fact that 360 still does some stuff better than PS3? will everyone who wanted a 360 suddenly change there mind and those who did buy it regret there purchase simply because PS3 now has more sold? Honestly, it sounds like it would only really matter for PS3 Fanboy Ammo.

Even though it wouldn't be a good look if the PS3 was last all this gen, just as long they keep on coming out with quality games is all that matters to me.

I dont think it needs to catch the 360 in sales because if they are making loads of money which they are they will most likely be happy.

Well, recently PS3 has been outselling 360 (WW), so its making great strides to catching up with it. But I think itll be a surreal dayif it does happen.(im not saying it cant happen, im just saying itll be weird) I do think 360 should have a bigger lead on PS3 since it came out a full year ahead. im personally more worried about 360 Graphics hitting a wall soon, and DVD 9 becoming a big issue for them if they dont make let devs inctall the second disc and stream it from the first, eliminating a swap. Of course, they would than need to release bigger HDDs so peopel can install there games taht way.

XboximusPrime

well the slim is rumoured to have an internal HDD meaning everyone will have HDD's and USB support will allow for files and games to be moved from old 360's to the slim. the slim will probably be the same price, come with a HDD and Natal. normal people aren't divided into system factions or cults so they'll look at it as a good deal and buy it.

Then MS has a good line up of games this year MS just has to mak commercials as good as these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jggz2wPnm2o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAfANb2Cs9Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tj2zIs05jU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFATqCfmgDM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL_ZjJgbDmc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQnh7k09XBo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM70MvpVKPY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccWrbGEFgI8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svg-DvNARKE