I guess Lemmings will have to install games too (LOL) IGN

so there y ou have, lemmings will also need to install games too, if they want to access the cars from the 2nd disc :)

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/103/1031109p1.html#

October 2, 2009 - Forza Motorsport 3 has too much love to give. That's not a joke. Not all of the cars and tracks could fit on one DVD, so developer Turn 10 had to split them onto two discs. The first disc is your game disc. Insert it and you have access to most of the environments and about 300 cars. To get the rest (104 cars, 29 tracks), you'll need to install disc 2 on a hard drive.

When you first insert disc 1, it will ask if you want to install the second disc. The install eats up 1.9 GB of space. Yowa! But you can instead choose pieces of disc 2 to install if you have limited space or a memory card.

Ok? This was widespread knowledge after Turn 10 first announced it'd be 2 disks which was months ago.

Fail attempt at ownage from another cow......

Hmm kinda sucky if that turns out to be true, but it's hardly a blow to lemmings.

Just delete that Forza 3 demo i know all you Forza 3 fans have and then you'll have enough space for disc 2.

I guess 1.9 GB's of actual game content > some unnecessary 5.0 GB install some PS3 games are plagued with. :(

Ok? This was widespread knowledge after Turn 10 first announced it'd be 2 disks which was months ago.

Fail attempt at ownage from another cow......

[QUOTE="treedoor"]

Ok? This was widespread knowledge after Turn 10 first announced it'd be 2 disks which was months ago.

Fail attempt at ownage from another cow......

spike6566

Why? Who cares. Try 80% of the PS3 library needing an install. That's epic.

off topic: i SO don't care about this game or GT5

on topic: what's the huge deal?

This actually effects me since I have the old 20GB HDD. Gotta delete some stuff then.

[QUOTE="spike6566"][QUOTE="treedoor"]

Ok? This was widespread knowledge after Turn 10 first announced it'd be 2 disks which was months ago.

Fail attempt at ownage from another cow......

lundy86_4

Why? Who cares. Try 80% of the PS3 library needing an install. That's epic.

Indeed. The PS3 install list is over 30 games, right? And many go over 5GB's.

I don't know why people always complain about having to install games.... It doesn't take long and unless you have a really small hdd it shouldn't matter and if you do, you can just remove the game data and keep the save files if you ever wan't to go back to it.

off topic: i SO don't care about this game or GT5

on topic: what's the huge deal?

clone01

Since they are the official sim racing games of their systems, fanboys tend to side with the one on their own system.

I personally could care less about both as I am not into racing games too much.

I'm devasted. If I had an Xbox this would totally be off my list just for this. Its garbage I tell you

Seriously for a moment, that does kinda suck a little.

Btw, the entire FM3 game is on 1 disc without install. The 2nd disc is content from FM2 redone with snazzy juiced up visuals for tracks and car models. It's basically bonus content is what the guy from Turn 10 said.

Why is having two DVDs such a big deal? Get over it.

[QUOTE="clone01"]

off topic: i SO don't care about this game or GT5

on topic: what's the huge deal?

Since they are the official sim racing games of their systems, fanboys tend to side with the one on their own system.

I personally could care less about both as I am not into racing games too much.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="spike6566"] LMAO 2 disc and install, now that is epic BioShockOwnz

Why? Who cares. Try 80% of the PS3 library needing an install. That's epic.

Indeed. The PS3 install list is over 30 games, right? And many go over 5GB's.

It's definately a substantial number. It's painful sometimes.

[QUOTE="spike6566"][QUOTE="treedoor"]

Ok? This was widespread knowledge after Turn 10 first announced it'd be 2 disks which was months ago.

Fail attempt at ownage from another cow......

lundy86_4

Why? Who cares. Try 80% of the PS3 library needing an install. That's epic.

Am I seeing somebody with a Killzone 2 user icon thats making sense?

Somebody pinch me... jk jk lol

Who cares? Its one game unlike what PS3 users have to put up with

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="spike6566"] LMAO 2 disc and install, now that is epic bobcheeseball

Why? Who cares. Try 80% of the PS3 library needing an install. That's epic.

Am I seeing somebody with a Killzone 2 user icon thats making sense?

Somebody pinch me... jk jk lol

Who cares? Its one game unlike what PS3 users have to put up with

Haha it's old. I just haven't changed it yet.

i bought my ps3 way before my 360 and i got use to the installs already i thought mandatory game installs were the norm until i got the xbox. i read it and its just talking about forza3 or will all 360 games have mandatory installs? one thing i dread on the ps3 is when i download something off the psn store after waiting mad hours for the download to complete just wen u thought u finish downloading it installs which takes a minute or longer why cant they just make it download and install all at once?! n i dread downloading in the background because it doesnt install in the background too u have to click it so it can finish downloading completely

[QUOTE="bobcheeseball"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Why? Who cares. Try 80% of the PS3 library needing an install. That's epic.

lundy86_4

Am I seeing somebody with a Killzone 2 user icon thats making sense?

Somebody pinch me... jk jk lol

Who cares? Its one game unlike what PS3 users have to put up with

Haha it's old. I just haven't changed it yet.

Lol whenever I see someone with a KZ2 icon I hold a bias against them :P

Oh well I guess I am just anti-Cow:P(not calling u a cow)

sometimes installing make the game more...okay than doesnt have install...

look* on PSP Mana khemia(some of sounds or voices.....dont play...after i installed the game..the game more...okay)

so there y ou have, lemmings will also need to install games too, if they want to access the cars from the 2nd disc :)

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/103/1031109p1.html#

October 2, 2009 - Forza Motorsport 3 has too much love to give. That's not a joke. Not all of the cars and tracks could fit on one DVD, so developer Turn 10 had to split them onto two discs. The first disc is your game disc. Insert it and you have access to most of the environments and about 300 cars. To get the rest (104 cars, 29 tracks), you'll need to install disc 2 on a hard drive.

When you first insert disc 1, it will ask if you want to install the second disc. The install eats up 1.9 GB of space. Yowa! But you can instead choose pieces of disc 2 to install if you have limited space or a memory card.

spike6566

i bought my ps3 way before my 360 and i got use to the installs already i thought mandatory game installs were the norm until i got the xbox. i read it and its just talking about forza3 or will all 360 games have mandatory installs? one thing i dread on the ps3 is when i download something off the psn store after waiting mad hours for the download to complete just wen u thought u finish downloading it installs which takes a minute or longer why cant they just make it download and install all at once?! n i dread downloading in the background because it doesnt install in the background too u have to click it so it can finish downloading completely

_SWAG_

I guess 1.9 GB's of actual game content > some unnecessary 5.0 GB install some PS3 games are plagued with. :(

BioShockOwnz

Indeed. The PS3 install list is over 30 games, right? And many go over 5GB's.

BioShockOwnz

How can that be if PS3 installs can't go over 4GB?

Ah. So installs were bad all along & Blu Ray was/is not needed this gen. Right, cows? Cool.

If there is anything worse than installing a game or having multiple discs, it having both.tylergamereview

This^

FFXIII is a perfect example....

[QUOTE="tylergamereview"]If there is anything worse than installing a game or having multiple discs, it having both.hunterseeker200

This^

[QUOTE="tylergamereview"]If there is anything worse than installing a game or having multiple discs, it having both.hunterseeker200

This^

FFXIII is a perfect example....

Neither is that big of a deal, but I have to say when FFXIII is brought up, for some reason it's always about Installs vs. Discs.
The possibility of both never comes up.

so there y ou have, lemmings will also need to install games too, if they want to access the cars from the 2nd disc :)

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/103/1031109p1.html#

October 2, 2009 - Forza Motorsport 3 has too much love to give. That's not a joke. Not all of the cars and tracks could fit on one DVD, so developer Turn 10 had to split them onto two discs. The first disc is your game disc. Insert it and you have access to most of the environments and about 300 cars. To get the rest (104 cars, 29 tracks), you'll need to install disc 2 on a hard drive.

When you first insert disc 1, it will ask if you want to install the second disc. The install eats up 1.9 GB of space. Yowa! But you can instead choose pieces of disc 2 to install if you have limited space or a memory card.

[QUOTE="hunterseeker200"]

[QUOTE="tylergamereview"]If there is anything worse than installing a game or having multiple discs, it having both.Gta3-fan334

This^

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Indeed. The PS3 install list is over 30 games, right? And many go over 5GB's.

Aku101

How can that be if PS3 installs can't go over 4GB?

Assassin's Creed--------(Required) 1.3Gb
Alone in the Dark - Inferno (Required) 3.78GB
Burnout Paradise--------(Required) 0.4GB
Battlefield BC------------(Required) 0.4GB
BioShock-----------------(required) 5.0 GB
Blazing Angels: Squadrons of WWII (unknown) 2.00 GB
Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway-(required) 2 GB
Civilization Revolution (Required) 0.65GB
Conflict: Denied Ops ----(unknown) 2.60 GB
Call of Duty 3 ------------(unknown) 0.60 GB
Conan--------------------(required) 0.67 GB
Cross Edge---------------(optional) 4.42 GB
Devil May Cry 4--------(Required) 4.83 GB
Dark Sector ------------(Required) 1.2 GB
Dynasty Warriors 6-----(Optional) 1.86GB
Eye of Judgement---------(Required) 1.9GB
Enemy Territory: Quake Wars (required) 4.2 GB
Fallout 3-------------------(required) 5.0 GB
Far Cry 2------------------(required) 3.5 GB
Fight Night Round 4 -------(required) 1.3 GB
Folklore-------------------(Optional) 1.04GB
Fear -----------------------(Required) 2.5GB
Full Auto 2---------------(Optional) 1.7 GB
Fracture -----------------(required) 2 GB
GTA IV-------------------(Required) 3.3 GB
GT5 Prologue-----------(Required) 5.24GB
Genji: Days of Blade---(Optional) 2.14GB
Ghostbusters -----------(Required) 4.0 GB
Haze --------------------(Required) 3.82 GB
Hawx ---------------------(required) 4GB
Hot Shots Golf 5 - ------(Required) 3.61Gb
Heavenly Sword--------(Required) 2.1GB
Infamous ----------------(required) 1.3 GB
Little Big Planet----------(required) 0.6 GB
Legendary----------------(required) 4.5 GB
Lost Planet: Extreme Condition-(required) 4.9 GB
Lost: Via Domus --------(required) 3.00 GB
Medal Of Honor:Airborne-(Required) 1.95 GB
Mercenaries 2: World in Flames (required) 2.7 GB
Mirror's Edge -----------------(required) 0.55 GB
MLB The Show 09 ------------(required) 2.5 GB
Mobile suit gundam: crossfire--(optional) 4.2GB
Mortal Kombat VS DC-------(required) 1.1 GB
MLB 08 The Show--------(required) 2GB
Metal Gear Solid 4--------(required) 4.0GB +(optional) 1.1GB for MG online
Ninja Gaiden Sigma-----(Optional) 3.3Gb
Nascar 09------------------(required) 0.13GB
NBA 09 The Inside --------(required) 2.8 GB
Need for Speed Undercover (Required) 1.0 GB
Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm-(Required) 4.0 GB
Oblivion---------------------(Required) 4.6GB
Orange Box ----------------(Required) 0.6GB
Oblivion GOTY--------------(Required) 5+GB
Overload Raising Hell----(required) 3.33 GB
Prototype -----------------(required) 0.65 GB
Ratchet & Clank Future-(Required) 0.42GB
Resistance: Fall of Man--(Required) 0.22GB
Resistance 2---------------(required) 0.4 GB
Rainbow Six Vegas 2------(required) 3.00GB
Ridge Racer 7 -------------(Optional) 5GB
Saints Row 2 --------------(required) 3.8 GB
Spiderman 3---------------(Required) 2.6Gb
Skate ----------------------- (required) 2.6 GB
Shaun White Snowboarding (Required) 1.0 GB
Splinter Cell Double Agent (unknown) 0.86 GB
Soul Calibur IV-------------(required) 2.6GB
Spider-Man: Web of Shadows-(required) 2.0 GB
Star Wars: The Force Unleashed-(required) 2.7 GB
Street Fighter IV---------------(required) 2.10 GB
Socom Confrontation -------(required) 2.7 GB
Time Crisis 4---------------(Optional) 2.45GB
TNA Impact!----------------(required) 4.75 GB
Top Spin 3------------------(Required) 3.6 GB
Timeshift ---------------(required) 1.02 GB
Turning Point: Fall of Liberty (required) 2.52 GB
The Bourne Conspiracy---(required) 4.7 GB
Tom Clancy's End War ----(required)5 GB
Unreal Tournament 3 -(Optional) 2.4GB
Valkyria Chronicles-----(Optional) 3.3 GB
Virtua Fighter 5--------(Optional) 2.34GB
Virtua Tennis 3----------(Optional) 3.40GB
Vampire Rain: Altered Species (unknown) 3.8 GB
Warhawk w/boosters-(Required) 1.1 GB
Warhawk w/o boosters(Required) 1.25GB
WWE Smackdown! vs. Raw 2008 (required) 2.4 GB
WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2009 (required) 3.2 GB
Yakuza 3-----------------(optional) 5GB

I guess 1.9 GB's of actual game content > some unnecessary 5.0 GB install some PS3 games are plagued with. :(

BioShockOwnz

Now we are going to think "well its a console, I shouldn't have to install any games." Well then you must hate all the features that all the consoles now use. Why have a gaming console which play's dvd's? Why have a console which can let me play music at the same time when gaming? Why have a console which will let me go on msn, facebook, use web browsers? Why play Blu-ray movies? Hell, why do we need to even install demos, why cant we just get those awesome demo disks like we did in the past and leave the online aspect of consoles just for PvP gaming? You guys just need to get over it, their is a draw back for everything, and installing a part of a game to a console isn't that big of a deal - especially for a console where you can get a HUGE HDD for very low prices.

Also, TC, this "I guess Lemmings will have to install games too" thing aint that much of a win for you. It's not even important, hell, its only ONE game. At least come back when you have several games which need to partially installed to the Xbox 360. I'll be waiting with a list twice as long for all the PS3 games that need to be installed, including the 10/10 MGS4 (which has an installation after each act).

I guess 1.9 GB's of actual game content > some unnecessary 5.0 GB install some PS3 games are plagued with. :(

BioShockOwnz

Either one is pretty crappy if you only have a 20 gig hdd, although I won't be picking this up anyways.

so there y ou have, lemmings will also need to install games too, if they want to access the cars from the 2nd disc :)

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/103/1031109p1.html#

October 2, 2009 - Forza Motorsport 3 has too much love to give. That's not a joke. Not all of the cars and tracks could fit on one DVD, so developer Turn 10 had to split them onto two discs. The first disc is your game disc. Insert it and you have access to most of the environments and about 300 cars. To get the rest (104 cars, 29 tracks), you'll need to install disc 2 on a hard drive.

When you first insert disc 1, it will ask if you want to install the second disc. The install eats up 1.9 GB of space. Yowa! But you can instead choose pieces of disc 2 to install if you have limited space or a memory card.

[QUOTE="spike6566"][QUOTE="mythrol"] The difference is, you don't NEED to install the second disc to play the game. Turn 10 has already stated that this is like DLC that was included with the game on disc. You can play the game without, but if you want even more content it's there for free. How is this a bad thing?mythrol

[QUOTE="mythrol"][QUOTE="spike6566"] sorry, but what part of " To get the rest (104 cars, 29 tracks), you'll need to install disc 2 on a hard drive." do you not understand?Adrian_Cloud

Like I stated before, Turn 10 already said the extra disc is just DLC that they decided to include with the game purchase. It is not required to play the game. The GAME disc is the first disc. It has everything you need to PLAY the game. The 2nd disc is bonus material that you can CHOOSE to install or not. Whether the game was 1 disc or two is irrelevant because if it was just 1 disc it'd still have been $60. Now if they were including the 2nd disc but charging $70 for the game. . .you might have a point. As it is now however, you're wrong.

It's not a big deal, but I have a very mixed opinion on it.

It sucks that its two disks and it needs installs. But seriously, it's not that bad. I usually install a game as soon as I get home, then I go back outside, fix up what i need to with the car, or grab some groceries, something. And go to the bathroom, stuff like that. I come back and the game is usually installed. Installs really only suck to people who don't have a life outside of games.

I know it's not necessary to install the second disk, but I would install it anyways. Why am I gonna pay for the full product but not use the full thing and get the full experience?

But seriously, for a game like Forza 3, it's worth it. The Forza franchise has proven itself in the past, and I have no complaints about the way it was set up.

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="mythrol"] What part of OPTIONAL don't you understand?mythrol

Like I stated before, Turn 10 already said the extra disc is just DLC that they decided to include with the game purchase. It is not required to play the game. The GAME disc is the first disc. It has everything you need to PLAY the game. The 2nd disc is bonus material that you can CHOOSE to install or not. Whether the game was 1 disc or two is irrelevant because if it was just 1 disc it'd still have been $60. Now if they were including the 2nd disc but charging $70 for the game. . .you might have a point. As it is now however, you're wrong.

[QUOTE="mythrol"]

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"] How the heck is it optional, it would be optional if you didn't already pay for it. when you buy FOrza 3 you pay for 2 discs, not just 1. If you had the option just to buy that one disc then it would be fine.Adrian_Cloud

Like I stated before, Turn 10 already said the extra disc is just DLC that they decided to include with the game purchase. It is not required to play the game. The GAME disc is the first disc. It has everything you need to PLAY the game. The 2nd disc is bonus material that you can CHOOSE to install or not. Whether the game was 1 disc or two is irrelevant because if it was just 1 disc it'd still have been $60. Now if they were including the 2nd disc but charging $70 for the game. . .you might have a point. As it is now however, you're wrong.