I have a 360. Please convince me to pay for LIVE

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#1 FrankenLife
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I got my 360 on launch, and also got a Gold membership. When I got my PS3, I stopped paying XBL. I just wanted to play online, and I didn't/still don't see the benefit of paying for XBL. Please convince me otherwise. As far as I can tell the only feature that XBL has that I want on PSN is the ability to chat with friends playing different games. What am I missing that is worth $50? I am tempted to get gold because of GOW2, but I need more than one game to justify paying the $50. There are lots of great games coming out left and right this season, and paying for XBL would mean playing one less game. I don't care about netflix, and so I would never use it.

Please use facts to support your claims. If you can't support your claims, then why should anyone believe you?

Thank You.

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#2 chikenfriedrice
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nah
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#3 Snugenz
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Dont get it. If you dont think its worth it then noone will be able to convince you otherwise, so this thread is nothing but flame bait.

Have a nice day ;)

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#4 POJO_MOFO
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Well if price is the issue, you can usually find a XBL gold card for cheaper than $50, you could always get 3 months now and see if you like it.
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#5 killab2oo5
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o.O Are you too lazy to use Google?

P.S.-Why not buy a 2day,1month or 3month?

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Well if price is the issue, you can usually find a XBL gold card for cheaper than $50, you could always get 3 months now and see if you like it.POJO_MOFO
He's already had it.
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#7 killzowned24
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there is no reason to pay for what should be FREE.
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#8 Dreams-Visions
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if you want to PLAY ONLINE...on an XBOX 360...you will pay.

if you want to take advantage of the strongest online community on a console...you will pay.

if you want to stream Netflix...you will pay.

otherwise, save your money.

that is all.

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#9 FrankenLife
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I seem to hear over and over from fanboys that xbl is so much better the psn and worth the money, but I just don't see it. I was hoping that someone could solidify that arguement. I do want to play Gears 2 online, but that is the only exclusive that I want to play online. I was hoping that more of a reason could be presented. I see the point of the 3 month card, but I don't have any major online games for my 360, I buy them for the PS3 so I can play online. RB and GH are about it.
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#10 Chutebox
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I got nothing.
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#11 ArthriticNinja
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No one can know if it will be worth it for you. I like live because I it allows me to play online with my buddies.
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#12 Floppy_Jim
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Halo 3.
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#13 killab2oo5
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You could download Xlink Kai or XboxConnect. They're programs that allow you to play your 360 online. I don't think many 360 games are supported though.
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#14 blackace
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there is no reason to pay for what should be FREE.killzowned24

So Cable, Healthcare and ISP connection should all be FREE?

Please let the government know, cause I want my refunds.

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#15 ukillwegrill
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If you wanna play Xbox games online, you pay. Is that so hard to understand?

The day my PS3 lets me play gears of war online, ill quit paying, until then ... im fine with paying

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#16 Vaasman
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You should pay for it because it owns. The fact I use to support this is that it owns.

J/k it's ok, it's only 50 bucks for 13 months so it's not like it's that huge of a deposit, and you can play any game. People out there pay 130 bucks a year for one game so comparatively it's not much.

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#17 ArthriticNinja
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there is no reason to pay for what should be FREE.killzowned24

Why should it be free?

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#18 killab2oo5
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You should pay for it because it owns. The fact I use to support this is that it owns.

J/k it's ok, it's only 50 bucks for 13 months so it's not like it's that huge of a deposit, and you can play any game. People out there pay 130 bucks a year for one game so comparatively it's not much.

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Only $40 dollars for 13 months if he gets a code or Amazon. Possibly cheaper on Ebay.
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#19 FrankenLife
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I had halo 3, but I was really underwelmed by it. I was a newcomer to the series, and the story like thing in it didn't make much sense to me. To me it was "Sci-Fi Action Game" staring Sci-Fi action hero, with lots of sci-fi action. I can understand why it's core fan base is in love with it, but it just isn't my thing.
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#20 FrankenLife
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]there is no reason to pay for what should be FREE.ArthriticNinja

Why should it be free?

I pay for the system

I pay for the game

I pay for the internet connection

Why do I need to pay for the right to play the game I bought on my system with the internet connection for which I am billed.

hmmmm a little redundant perhaps, but the point gets accross.

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#21 killzowned24
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]there is no reason to pay for what should be FREE.ArthriticNinja

Why should it be free?

online play!

how about charge for any extra feature if you want but not online play.

Anyway with all those ads!!! it really should all be free.

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[QUOTE="ArthriticNinja"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]there is no reason to pay for what should be FREE.killzowned24

Why should it be free?

online play!

how about charge for any extra feature if you want but not online play.

Imagine if they charged for the single player campaign in games :P

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#23 killab2oo5
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[QUOTE="ArthriticNinja"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]there is no reason to pay for what should be FREE.FrankenLife

Why should it be free?

I pay for the system

I pay for the game

I pay for the internet connection

Why do I need to pay for the right to play the game I bought on my system with the internet connection for which I am billed.

hmmmm a little redundant perhaps, but the point gets accross.

I kind of agree...the least they could do is offer us servers to play on. $50/$40 dollars a year is very cheap though. About $3.50 a month,and Live gets a lot of support from Microsoft. The Spring/Fall updates are always nice.
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#24 ArthriticNinja
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[QUOTE="ArthriticNinja"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]there is no reason to pay for what should be FREE.FrankenLife

Why should it be free?

I pay for the system

I pay for the game

I pay for the internet connection

Why do I need to pay for the right to play the game I bought on my system with the internet connection for which I am billed.

hmmmm a little redundant perhaps, but the point gets accross.

You pay for all of those why should it suddenly be different when it comes to paying for the service of xbox live? Why don't they deserve a slice of the pie?

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#25 killab2oo5
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You pay for all of those why should it suddenly be different when it comes to paying for the service of xbox live? Why don't they deserve a slice of the pie? ArthriticNinja
Where do you think your money is going to exactly? I'm sure it doesn't cost THAT much to maintain and update live. Let's say there are 6 million Gold members...that's $300,000,000 dollars a year,and I'm sure theres much more than 6 million gold members.
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#26 sargentbotk
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The way I see it, this is flame bait. For someone who owns both consoles and not seeing as to why they should pay for online on the 360...the thread wasn't meant for you to be convinced.

XBL is really no different from PSN, but just has some extra good features. The main points someone with both consoles would actually pay for XBL are:

1) They have no problem with spending $7, $12, $50 subscription fees.

2) To play with their friends

3) Enjoy the overall superiority of XBL over PSN(This is me.)

Go convince your ownself. Are you that handicap to not be able come up with an answer yourself when all the materials are right there in front of you?

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#27 ArthriticNinja
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[QUOTE="ArthriticNinja"]You pay for all of those why should it suddenly be different when it comes to paying for the service of xbox live? Why don't they deserve a slice of the pie? killab2oo5
Where do you think your money is going to exactly? I'm sure it doesn't cost THAT much to maintain and update live. Let's say there are 6 million Gold members...that's $300,000,000 dollars a year,and I'm sure theres much more than 6 million gold members.

SO companies aren't allowed to make profit?

You think your ISP, and game developers are charging at break even prices too?

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#28 MastaP110
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Its 50 bucks for a year just buy it you wont regret it. I have been an xbox live subscriber from the begining and have had no problems paying the 50 a year. There is an update coming november that is going to be awesome. I have a friend at work who refused to buy live and finially he gave in and wont stop telling me how much he regrets not getting it before.

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#29 ukillwegrill
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[QUOTE="ArthriticNinja"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]there is no reason to pay for what should be FREE.killzowned24

Why should it be free?

online play!

how about charge for any extra feature if you want but not online play.

Anyway with all those ads!!! it really should all be free.

What ads? My UK Xbox live has none, unless you count the "OUT NOW" bit.

Also, are you a full time fanboy, or do you have another occupation?

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#30 SmartGuy2211
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Halo 3.Floppy_Jim

QFT

seriously.

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#31 Kratos_OMEGA
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Gears of war 2 online ******. lots of swearing lots of owning. thats the real **** we pay for right there my brother.
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#32 killzowned24
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Gears of war 2 online ******. lots of swearing lots of owning. thats the real **** we pay for right there my brother.Kratos_OMEGA

gears1 lemmings paid for lag.

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#33 FrankenLife
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MS has already recieved a slice from the pie. They get money from game sales, and they get money from perifrial sales. Not to mention everything sold over the marketplace, and ads placed on the marketplace. Do they really need to sell themes. Talk about something that should be free, themes. On the PS3 you can create your own custom theme if you want, for free. Not to mention all the really cool themes people have made and posted up on the internet. But back to the point at hand. Microsoft has lots of money, and will do just fine w/o charging for LIVE.
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[QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="ArthriticNinja"]You pay for all of those why should it suddenly be different when it comes to paying for the service of xbox live? Why don't they deserve a slice of the pie? ArthriticNinja

Where do you think your money is going to exactly? I'm sure it doesn't cost THAT much to maintain and update live. Let's say there are 6 million Gold members...that's $300,000,000 dollars a year,and I'm sure theres much more than 6 million gold members.

SO companies aren't allowed to make profit?

You think your ISP, and game developers are charging at break even prices too?

Sure,but I'm pretty positive it's a whole lot more expensive to maintain a internet connection with millions upon millions of customers than it is to maintain Live. I'd be willing to bet that Live pays for itself due to the ads/sponsors (Honda,Yari,Verizon..etc. Then devs like Ubi and EA advertise their games...). I love Live due to the community (in select games) and it's very nice overall...but if they're gonna charge $50 atleast offer servers.
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#36 killab2oo5
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[QUOTE="Kratos_OMEGA"]Gears of war 2 online ******. lots of swearing lots of owning. thats the real **** we pay for right there my brother.killzowned24

gears1 lemmings paid for lag.

:roll: Have you ever played Gears? The online it's pretty much lag free. My up connection is only 368k and I can host full rooms.
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#37 killzowned24
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

[QUOTE="Kratos_OMEGA"]Gears of war 2 online ******. lots of swearing lots of owning. thats the real **** we pay for right there my brother.killab2oo5

gears1 lemmings paid for lag.

:roll: Have you ever played Gears? The online it's pretty much lag free. My up connection is only 368k and I can host full rooms.

so lag free that cliffyb has to use no lag (says him lol) in gears2 for hype:)
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so lag free that cliffyb has to use no lag (says him lol) in gears2 for hype:)killzowned24
Link?
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#39 ArthriticNinja
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Sure,but I'm pretty positive it's a whole lot more expensive to maintain a internet connection with millions upon millions of customers than it is to maintain Live. I'd be willing to bet that Live pays for itself due to the ads/sponsors (Honda,Yari,Verizon..etc. Then devs like Ubi and EA advertise their games...). I love Live due to the community (in select games) and it's very nice overall...but if they're gonna charge $50 atleast offer servers.killab2oo5

I seriously doubt that, Microsoft have developed a whole tool set for developers to insure every game enjoys the great feature set of live.

Some serious cash has been laid out in developing and continuing to develop the platform. Running the thing wont be cheap either.

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I seriously doubt that, Microsoft have developed a whole tool set for developers to insure every game enjoys the great feature set of live.

Some serious cash has been laid out in developing and continuing to develop the platform. Running the thing wont be cheap either.

ArthriticNinja
Do they charge for that tool kit? If not then...that is pretty good.
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#41 killzowned24
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]so lag free that cliffyb has to use no lag (says him lol) in gears2 for hype:)killab2oo5
Link?

google cliffyb bullet lag:)

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MS has already recieved a slice from the pie. They get money from game sales, and they get money from perifrial sales. Not to mention everything sold over the marketplace, and ads placed on the marketplace. Do they really need to sell themes. Talk about something that should be free, themes. On the PS3 you can create your own custom theme if you want, for free. Not to mention all the really cool themes people have made and posted up on the internet. But back to the point at hand. Microsoft has lots of money, and will do just fine w/o charging for LIVE. FrankenLife

The last xbox lost money every year it was out. The PS3 is hemeridging money for Sony (even at the HUGE $500 price point) and you begrudge them selling you optional themes? If some muppet is willing to pay for them and it helps subisidise the huge losses these companies sell you a console for, whats the issue?

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#43 sargentbotk
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

[QUOTE="Kratos_OMEGA"]Gears of war 2 online ******. lots of swearing lots of owning. thats the real **** we pay for right there my brother.ukillwegrill

gears1 lemmings paid for lag.

Such a ******** ...

Aw...you let him get to you. lmao :lol:

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#44 killab2oo5
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[QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="killzowned24"]so lag free that cliffyb has to use no lag (says him lol) in gears2 for hype:)killzowned24

Link?

google cliffyb bullet lag:)

o_o News to me...I've never noticed bullet lag in Gears,but see a lot of people arguing about it. -.- I hate to say this to someone of your nature,but you got me.
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#45 FrankenLife
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The way I see it, this is flame bait. For someone who owns both consoles and not seeing as to why they should pay for online on the 360...the thread wasn't meant for you to be convinced.

XBL is really no different from PSN, but just has some extra good features. The main points someone with both consoles would actually pay for XBL are:

1) They have no problem with spending $7, $12, $50 subscription fees.

2) To play with their friends

3) Enjoy the overall superiority of XBL over PSN(This is me.)

Go convince your ownself. Are you that handicap to not be able come up with an answer yourself when all the materials are right there in front of you?

sargentbotk

This is not flame bait. I am being sincere. I have not flamed anyone. I have stated the way I feel, and ask nicely for a counter arguement. Sadly you didn't really do that. At no point did you say specifically why xbl is worth paying for over PSN. Yes playing with your friends, but I can do that on PSN. What is the "overal superiority of xbl over psn"?

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#46 ukillwegrill
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[QUOTE="ukillwegrill"][QUOTE="killzowned24"]

[QUOTE="Kratos_OMEGA"]Gears of war 2 online ******. lots of swearing lots of owning. thats the real **** we pay for right there my brother.sargentbotk

gears1 lemmings paid for lag.

Such a ******** ...

Aw...you let him get to you. lmao :lol:

Humm? No, i just love that word 8)

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#48 xxThyLordxx
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DO NOT PAY for something that should be FREE, its like paying for air to breathe(even though that will eventually happen one day, lol)
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#49 ArthriticNinja
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DO NOT PAY for something that should be FREE, its like paying for air to breathe(even though that will eventually happen one day, lol)xxThyLordxx

JUst because you have a sense of entitlement doesn't mean something should be free. MS offer a service, one that costs them money. Why should they not ask for compensation for that?

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#50 SSCyborg
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Halo 3.Floppy_Jim

This.