I just bought MGS4...

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#1 Adonymous
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I was at the story today w/ some extra $ and saw the game section.

So I decided to buy a game...it was either B:BC or MGS4.

So I got MGS4...got home started playing it...and here are a few things about it.

The Beginning was wtf? I still don't get it.

The story telling and graphics are amazing...jaw dropping...Akibo is hilarious...great mix of sadness humor etc.

The gameplay though...is somewhat weak.

I'm playing on normal difficulty and the AI just seems dumb. I'm standing 20ft away in broad day light on a street, and the enemy PMC is just looking at me, ignores me completly, turns around and walks off...leaving me going wtf?

The single player is great though...i'm just not the biggest fan of the gameplay mechanics..also maybe its because i've been playingCOD4 too much, but is snake friggin slow or what? even when he's running it feels like eternity to walk across the street...I know he's old and whatnot but damn.

As for online... not a fan. I can only create 1 character, and have to pay for the rest? wtf? also the gameplay sucks in online. everyone is basically moving as slow as a snail...not my cup of tea.

Overall though I'm loving the story and the imerrsive experience, but the gameplay feels too much like MGS2-3.

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#2 ChrnoTrigger
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The gameplay is stunning for avid stealth action fans such as myself. Also, normal is too easy. Play on big boss hard :P
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#3 BlueHerb
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I was at the story today w/ some extra $ and saw the game section.

So I decided to buy a game...it was either B:BC or MGS4.

So I got MGS4...got home started playing it...and here are a few things about it.

The Beginning was wtf? I still don't get it.

The story telling and graphics are amazing...jaw dropping...Akibo is hilarious...great mix of sadness humor etc.

The gameplay though...is somewhat weak.

I'm playing on normal difficulty and the AI just seems dumb. I'm standing 20ft away in broad day light on a street, and the enemy PMC is just looking at me, ignores me completly, turns around and walks off...leaving me going wtf?

The single player is great though...i'm just not the biggest fan of the gameplay mechanics..also maybe its because i've been playingCOD4 too much, but is snake friggin slow or what? even when he's running it feels like eternity to walk across the street...I know he's old and whatnot but damn.

As for online... not a fan. I can only create 1 character, and have to pay for the rest? wtf? also the gameplay sucks in online. everyone is basically moving as slow as a snail...not my cup of tea.

Overall though I'm loving the story and the imerrsive experience, but the gameplay feels too much like MGS2-3.

Adonymous

The PMC's and Rebels are at a war, you don't have to intercept them at all, you can even take sides and they won't shoot at you, depends who you help out. If you think the A.I is weak, play on the hardest BIG BOSS mode...it isn't easy, the A.I is much more aware and tough.

If you think the story's good now, wait untill the last battle.

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if you dont know you can control every cutscene,press up on the d-pad:)
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#5 Adonymous
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if you dont know you can control every cutscene,press up on the d-pad:)killzowned24

doesn't it just zoom in closer to a character? I've found out in the Meryl and Snake meet up cutscene.

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#6 killzowned24
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]if you dont know you can control every cutscene,press up on the d-pad:)Adonymous

doesn't it just zoom in closer to a character? I've found out in the Meryl and Snake meet up cutscene.

well you can look around with the right stick too.
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#7 BlueHerb
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if you dont know you can control every cutscene,press up on the d-pad:)killzowned24

Not EVERY cutscene, but most....one for example is when you first meet up with Ocelot/liquid and the showdown with them and the whole army. This made me think that it wasn't realtime and boosted added detail for that particular scene. (expecially akiba when he saves meryl) looked kinda TOO good, etc. don't know tho.

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#8 Logan832
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If you didn't understand the beginning it will only get more complicated. BTW, normal is way to easy on this. Playing on normal can make it a run and gun game, which isn't the way it is suppose to be played.
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#9 Adonymous
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If you didn't understand the beginning it will only get more complicated. BTW, normal is way to easy on this. Playing on normal can make it a run and gun game, which isn't the way it is suppose to be played.Logan832

Do u want to elaborate on the beginning...wtf was that?

was he watching TV? or what was going on?

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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]if you dont know you can control every cutscene,press up on the d-pad:)BlueHerb

Not EVERY cutscene, but most....one for example is when you first meet up with Ocelot/liquid and the showdown with them and the whole army. This made me think that it wasn't realtime and boosted added detail for that particular scene. (expecially akiba when he saves meryl) looked kinda TOO good, etc. don't know tho.

That's the only cutscene though, and the GW one in Act5. Every other cutscene in the game is realtime goodness. Man, i never imagined such advanced graphics and animations were possible this gen.

I don't think another game on this level will ever be made, ever.

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#11 Logan832
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[QUOTE="Logan832"]If you didn't understand the beginning it will only get more complicated. BTW, normal is way to easy on this. Playing on normal can make it a run and gun game, which isn't the way it is suppose to be played.Adonymous

Do u want to elaborate on the beginning...wtf was that?

was he watching TV? or what was going on?

I don't want to spoil anything. Some of the shows have relavance towards the game.

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[QUOTE="BlueHerb"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]if you dont know you can control every cutscene,press up on the d-pad:)el_rika

Not EVERY cutscene, but most....one for example is when you first meet up with Ocelot/liquid and the showdown with them and the whole army. This made me think that it wasn't realtime and boosted added detail for that particular scene. (expecially akiba when he saves meryl) looked kinda TOO good, etc. don't know tho.

That's the only cutscene though, and the GW one in Act5. Every other cutscene in the game is realtime goodness. Man, i never imagined such advanced graphics and animations were possible this gen.

I don't think another game on this level will ever be made, ever.



The game ups the graphics for cutscenes, and reverts them down for gameplay.
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[QUOTE="el_rika"][QUOTE="BlueHerb"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]if you dont know you can control every cutscene,press up on the d-pad:)EmilioDigsIt

Not EVERY cutscene, but most....one for example is when you first meet up with Ocelot/liquid and the showdown with them and the whole army. This made me think that it wasn't realtime and boosted added detail for that particular scene. (expecially akiba when he saves meryl) looked kinda TOO good, etc. don't know tho.

That's the only cutscene though, and the GW one in Act5. Every other cutscene in the game is realtime goodness. Man, i never imagined such advanced graphics and animations were possible this gen.

I don't think another game on this level will ever be made, ever.



The game ups the graphics for cutscenes, and reverts them down for gameplay.

Either way the game looks fantastic. I beat it and waited 3 weeks and started replaying yesterday, Im having a blast all over again. Personally I think it looks better than uncharted, I dont see how anyone cant be awed by MGS4 graphics, except hermits, they have been spoiled.

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Akibo is hilarious.... How old are you? I hated him and all his poop jokes.
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I agree that the Normal setting is a little too easy, but that doesn't make the gameplay bad since there 2 harder settings. Enjoy :).
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Akibo is hilarious.... How old are you? I hated him and all his poop jokes.xXHackettXx

I'm 20 and I laughed at how lame and corny he was. It's funny. Does age really matter though?

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#17 Logan832
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Akibo is hilarious.... How old are you? I hated him and all his poop jokes.xXHackettXx

Actually you will understand why Akiba had stomach problems at the end of the game.

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Because he never got his shots since he was afraid of needles, he doesn't have nanomachines to regulate his body when he gets nervous.

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[QUOTE="Logan832"]
Akibo is hilarious.... How old are you? I hated him and all his poop jokes.xXHackettXx
Actually you will understand why Akiba had stomach problems at the end of the game. [spoiler] - - - Because he never got his shots since he was afraid of needles, he doesn't have nanomachines to regulate his body when he gets nervous. [/spoiler]

do it like this will ya? you type [spoiler] message [/spoiler
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and yet i still gotta be on the sidelines looking in...damn i wish i had a playstation 3
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I was at the story today w/ some extra $ and saw the game section.

So I decided to buy a game...it was either B:BC or MGS4.

So I got MGS4...got home started playing it...and here are a few things about it.

The Beginning was wtf? I still don't get it.

The story telling and graphics are amazing...jaw dropping...Akibo is hilarious...great mix of sadness humor etc.

The gameplay though...is somewhat weak.

I'm playing on normal difficulty and the AI just seems dumb. I'm standing 20ft away in broad day light on a street, and the enemy PMC is just looking at me, ignores me completly, turns around and walks off...leaving me going wtf?

The single player is great though...i'm just not the biggest fan of the gameplay mechanics..also maybe its because i've been playingCOD4 too much, but is snake friggin slow or what? even when he's running it feels like eternity to walk across the street...I know he's old and whatnot but damn.

As for online... not a fan. I can only create 1 character, and have to pay for the rest? wtf? also the gameplay sucks in online. everyone is basically moving as slow as a snail...not my cup of tea.

Overall though I'm loving the story and the imerrsive experience, but the gameplay feels too much like MGS2-3.

Adonymous

go to wikipedia and read the story line of MGS then read the manual. youll understand whats going on better. you probably got home and, basking in the excitement of just purchasing MGS 4, forgot to read or look at anything else that resembled a manual. basically, you need to slow down.

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#22 SolidTy
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I was at the story today w/ some extra $ and saw the game section.

So I decided to buy a game...it was either B:BC or MGS4.

So I got MGS4...got home started playing it...and here are a few things about it.

The Beginning was wtf? I still don't get it.

The story telling and graphics are amazing...jaw dropping...Akibo is hilarious...great mix of sadness humor etc.

The gameplay though...is somewhat weak.

I'm playing on normal difficulty and the AI just seems dumb. I'm standing 20ft away in broad day light on a street, and the enemy PMC is just looking at me, ignores me completly, turns around and walks off...leaving me going wtf?

The single player is great though...

Overall though I'm loving the story and the imerrsive experience, but the gameplay feels too much like MGS2-3.

Adonymous

Why the HELL are you playing on NORMAL? That's going to KILL the EXPERIENCE for someone that played an MGS before.

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the beginning made sense to me, but ive been following mgs since the first, the octopus part at the very beginning confused me until otacon related it to snakes camo, the controls take some getting used to definately, and what a coincidence i just got mgs4 today to :P
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#24 fazares
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[QUOTE="BlueHerb"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]if you dont know you can control every cutscene,press up on the d-pad:)el_rika

Not EVERY cutscene, but most....one for example is when you first meet up with Ocelot/liquid and the showdown with them and the whole army. This made me think that it wasn't realtime and boosted added detail for that particular scene. (expecially akiba when he saves meryl) looked kinda TOO good, etc. don't know tho.

That's the only cutscene though, and the GW one in Act5. Every other cutscene in the game is realtime goodness. Man, i never imagined such advanced graphics and animations were possible this gen.

I don't think another game on this level will ever be made, ever.

there is no cg......mgs4 is 100% real time just like the older mgs games....yes, that akiba saves meryl scene too....btw meryl character model looks just the same as in the other scenes...if u think that was cg then what do u think about the beasts human char models....cg too?
did u noticed that snake char model in that scene(liquid vs army) is the same exact model u see in every other cutscene(and gameplay if u can get the camera to zoom near a wall)
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#25 Asim90
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You should play the game on at least Big Boss hard. The enemies are so much more aware, smarter and tougher.

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#26 fazares
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and btw the liquid vs army scene isnt interactve because of the large scope of the whole scene not because its cg.....its easier with few guys on screen.... it was the same with old mgs games as well....they also faetured non interactive real time cutscene..