I just played the orange box on the xbox 360.

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#1 Thinker_145
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And i gotta say that HL2+gamepad=EPIC EPIC FAIL.I dont know how you console fanboys manage this.Why did this game not support kb\mouse.Ya i think cuz consoles is for casual gamers.

And i thought xbox 360 should eat this game alive but still it doesnt run as smoothly as i run it on my PC.The graphics were very good though.

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#2 Arjdagr8
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k, thanks for telling us
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#3 Eltroz
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Bet yet it still scored 9.5. So do we believe you or the reviewers? Hmm tough choice there. I think I will stick with the reviewers.
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#4 fakkhead
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yea if your not used to the gamepad then it can take some time before you appreciate it. I've always been a PC Gamer and when I finally got a xbox 360 I had such a hard time adjusting from kb/mouse to gamepad, I really hated it.

But as time went I got the hang of it and Im really enjoying playing FPS on my 360 now.

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#5 Thinker_145
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Bet yet it still scored 9.5. So do we believe you or the reviewers? Hmm tough choice there. I think I will stick with the reviewers.Eltroz
Cuz they review it with a casual gamer in mind.
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thanks for your OPINION:roll:
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#7 Eltroz
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[QUOTE="Eltroz"]Bet yet it still scored 9.5. So do we believe you or the reviewers? Hmm tough choice there. I think I will stick with the reviewers.Thinker_145
Cuz they review it with a casual gamer in mind.

Sure they did buddy. Still think it is a toughie. Listen to some random person on a game forum or go with game critics. You do know it is a AAA game on gamerankings also right? As a matter of fact it is 96.3% on gamerankings. So I will just go crazy and take the reviews of pro game critics over yours.
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#8 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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Orange Box is fine on the 360. Maybe it's the wetware that's the problem.
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#9 Jack-o-Thompson
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OBVIOUSLY its not gonna be as smooth as on your PC, and about the controller, you gotta get used to it.
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#10 skrat_01
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1. Yes its knowhere as good on 360 as PC. Nuff said.

2. Its still the best FPS off all time - even on 360 -regardless.

3. Its great that more people get to experience what such a great game it is.

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#11 Thinker_145
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1. Yes its knowhere as good on 360 as PC. Nuff said.

2. Its still the best FPS off all time - even on 360 -regardless.

3. Its great that more people get to experience what such a great game it is.

skrat_01
Ya that is right but what is seriously stopping them from including usb keyboard and mouse support.It's not like they will be forcing anybody to play it with a kb\mouse.
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#12 Thinker_145
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yea if your not used to the gamepad then it can take some time before you appreciate it. I've always been a PC Gamer and when I finally got a xbox 360 I had such a hard time adjusting from kb/mouse to gamepad, I really hated it.

But as time went I got the hang of it and Im really enjoying playing FPS on my 360 now.

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Yes and if anybody has only played shooters with a gamepad then they seriously dont know what they are missing.
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What!?! your $400 Xbox is not as powerful as your PC, zomg!!! Teh shock of it all!

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#14 Deihmos
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This keyboard and mouse argument is getting so old. So not being able to point and click makes the game less fun.
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#15 JPOBS
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Thanks for the insightful feedback.
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#16 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

1. Yes its knowhere as good on 360 as PC. Nuff said.

2. Its still the best FPS off all time - even on 360 -regardless.

3. Its great that more people get to experience what such a great game it is.

Thinker_145

Ya that is right but what is seriously stopping them from including usb keyboard and mouse support.It's not like they will be forcing anybody to play it with a kb\mouse.

Because by doing that everyone would simply plug in their own keyboard and mouse, and not bother with buying controllers - if this is universal mouse and keyboard support.

That or MS still wants a monopoly over prephrials for its system - strangely unlike sony.

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yea if your not used to the gamepad then it can take some time before you appreciate it. I've always been a PC Gamer and when I finally got a xbox 360 I had such a hard time adjusting from kb/mouse to gamepad, I really hated it.

But as time went I got the hang of it and Im really enjoying playing FPS on my 360 now.

fakkhead

Same with me, but now i even like fps more on console than PC.

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#18 Epak_
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Learn to play with a pad.
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I tire of the casual argument. Besides, what's wrong with being a casual gamer? Don't you think, unless you're supporting yourself with gaming alone, that being a "hard-core" gamer is a wee silly? Just my opinion.
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#20 SpruceCaboose
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I love the Orange Box on 360. Your opinion means nothing to me. You prefer KB/M, play on KB/M. I prefer my console and game pad. My preference, and you don't need to try and change my mind for me.
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#21 Blue-Sphere
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Thx for the opinion.
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I tire of the casual argument. Besides, what's wrong with being a casual gamer? Don't you think, unless you're supporting yourself with gaming alone, that being a "hard-core" gamer is a wee silly? Just my opinion.musicalmac
No, you must be hardcore or the internet will disown you!
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"]I tire of the casual argument. Besides, what's wrong with being a casual gamer? Don't you think, unless you're supporting yourself with gaming alone, that being a "hard-core" gamer is a wee silly? Just my opinion.Jandurin
No, you must be hardcore or the internet will disown you!

My definition of hardcore vastly differs from many here.

My definition is someone who games as a passion. The gamer who tries new games and knows who the developers are. A hardcore player cares about the industry and is passionate about gaming. That to me is a hardcore gamer. Nothing to do with skill or elitism, just the amount of passion one has for gaming.

I term a hardcore gamer much like someone would be labeled a music junkie or a film buff.

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#24 stopitandtidyup
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Learn to play with a pad.Epak_

Pads are restricting. They're for casuals and newbies.

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#25 Kwazy1981
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And i thought xbox 360 should eat this game alive but still it doesnt run as smoothly as i run it on my PC.The graphics were very good though.

Thinker_145

Umm your video card cost's more then the 360.

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#26 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="Epak_"]Learn to play with a pad.stopitandtidyup

Pads are restricting. They're for casuals and newbies.

Or people who don't like KB/M. I could make a blanket, false assertion about KB/M as well, if you'd like.

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#27 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="Thinker_145"]

And i thought xbox 360 should eat this game alive but still it doesnt run as smoothly as i run it on my PC.The graphics were very good though.

Kwazy1981

Umm your video card cost's more then the 360.

And you dont need that video card to run it at the higest settings.

My 3 year old X850pro ran HL2 on the highest settings AA, AF with HDR at a 50fps+ frame rate.

My 9600XT ran it at the highest settings (though no HDR) at 35fps+

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#28 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="stopitandtidyup"]

[QUOTE="Epak_"]Learn to play with a pad.SpruceCaboose

Pads are restricting. They're for casuals and newbies.

Or people who don't like KB/M. I could make a blanket, false assertion about KB/M as well, if you'd like.

The superiourity of a Mouse and Keyboard for shooters is obvius - fact is its better - but if one prefers a gamepad -then its their opinion and no one can force them to change it.
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Why do people (hermits) find K&M better than a control pad ? Is it because it's far, far easier ?
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#30 skrat_01
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Why do people (hermits) find K&M better than a control pad ? Is it because it's far, far easier ?BambooBanger
Its superiour in every sense. Thats why.

If you rather gamepads, then fair enough.

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#31 Kook18
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It's not that bad. Its not as great as the PC counterpart, but if you're used to duo joysticks, it's quite easy to pick up.
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#32 kcpp2b
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Orange Box is fine on the 360. Maybe it's the wetware that's the problem.Jandurin

OB was perfectly fine for me. No problems or learning curves or anything. Simple for me even the driving was remotely hard

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#33 krp008
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And i gotta say that HL2+gamepad=EPIC EPIC FAIL.I dont know how you console fanboys manage this.Why did this game not support kb\mouse.Ya i think cuz consoles is for casual gamers.

And i thought xbox 360 should eat this game alive but still it doesnt run as smoothly as i run it on my PC.The graphics were very good though.

Thinker_145

Casual = gamers with social lives

Hardcore = gamers/nerds with no lives

PC gaming is dead, get over it

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I thought it worked fine on the xbox 360 and the graphics are as good as I have ever seen it on pc.
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#35 Thinker_145
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I thought it worked fine on the xbox 360 and the graphics are as good as I have ever seen it on pc.kevy619
No the PC has better textures and less jagies.
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PC gaming is dead, get over it

krp008

Yea thats why it has 250 million gamers (MS stats not mine), is the most used gaming platform, and games such as WoW have 10 million subscribers, and 13.5 million steam users - almost - and more - than Xbox 360s sold.

Right.:|

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[QUOTE="Kwazy1981"][QUOTE="Thinker_145"]

And i thought xbox 360 should eat this game alive but still it doesnt run as smoothly as i run it on my PC.The graphics were very good though.

skrat_01

Umm your video card cost's more then the 360.

And you dont need that video card to run it at the higest settings.

My 3 year old X850pro ran HL2 on the highest settings AA, AF with HDR at a 50fps+ frame rate.

My 9600XT ran it at the highest settings (though no HDR) at 35fps+

Yes exactly the 360 should be overkill for this game and you should not be able to notice any slowdown at all.I guess that 512 RAM is really an unbelievable decision of MS's part.
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[QUOTE="krp008"]

PC gaming is dead, get over it

skrat_01

Yea thats why it has 250 million gamers (MS stats not mine), is the most used gaming platform, and games such as WoW have 10 million subscribers, and 13.5 million steam users - almost - and more - than Xbox 360s sold.

Right.:|

That because there is no way around paying blizzard to play wow. PC gaming is only hurting because of pirates.

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[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Kwazy1981"][QUOTE="Thinker_145"]

And i thought xbox 360 should eat this game alive but still it doesnt run as smoothly as i run it on my PC.The graphics were very good though.

Thinker_145

Umm your video card cost's more then the 360.

And you dont need that video card to run it at the higest settings.

My 3 year old X850pro ran HL2 on the highest settings AA, AF with HDR at a 50fps+ frame rate.

My 9600XT ran it at the highest settings (though no HDR) at 35fps+

Yes exactly the 360 should be overkill for this game and you should not be able to notice any slowdown at all.I guess that 512 RAM is really an unbelievable decision of MS's part.

MS's part? Valve ported it! Valve was never good at making anything for consoles

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#40 Epak_
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="stopitandtidyup"]

[QUOTE="Epak_"]Learn to play with a pad.skrat_01

Pads are restricting. They're for casuals and newbies.

Or people who don't like KB/M. I could make a blanket, false assertion about KB/M as well, if you'd like.

The superiourity of a Mouse and Keyboard for shooters is obvius - fact is its better - but if one prefers a gamepad -then its their opinion and no one can force them to change it.

I personally like both setups. Of course M/KB is more accurate, but I don't reject game pads for that reason. Oh yeah, I shouldn't forget the Wii either.

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#41 krp008
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[QUOTE="krp008"]

PC gaming is dead, get over it

skrat_01

Yea thats why it has 250 million gamers (MS stats not mine), is the most used gaming platform, and games such as WoW have 10 million subscribers, and 13.5 million steam users - almost - and more - than Xbox 360s sold.

Right.:|

250 million PC gamers, right... Just because people own a PC doesnt mean they game on it. PC gaming is dead as in the games rarely sell 1 million copies within their entire lifespan, while Halo 3 sells 2 million is one night. Devs will turn where the money is, and leave the PC. Therefore, PC gaming is dead

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#42 Thinker_145
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[QUOTE="krp008"]

PC gaming is dead, get over it

skrat_01

Yea thats why it has 250 million gamers (MS stats not mine), is the most used gaming platform, and games such as WoW have 10 million subscribers, and 13.5 million steam users - almost - and more - than Xbox 360s sold.

Right.:|

No he is actually right.PC gaming is dead but just somehow it ends up having the most AAA and AA games.:roll:
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Of course it'll be better on PC, most FPS's are, but it's not like it's that bad on 360. I have both 360 version and the PC version. Difference isn't that big, just the normal console to PC difference.
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well, you're used to the over easy mouse. sure, a mouse works much better for aiming. it's almost as intuitive as the wiimote. if it weren't for the unimmersive keyboard controls.

doesb't change the fact that the games are great

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#45 Thinker_145
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well, you're used to the over easy mouse. sure, a mouse works much better for aiming. it's almost as intuitive as the wiimote. if it weren't for the unimmersive keyboard controls.

doesb't change the fact that the games are great

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You know there are keyboards with analog sticks.
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#46 krp008
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="krp008"]

PC gaming is dead, get over it

Thinker_145

Yea thats why it has 250 million gamers (MS stats not mine), is the most used gaming platform, and games such as WoW have 10 million subscribers, and 13.5 million steam users - almost - and more - than Xbox 360s sold.

Right.:|

No he is actually right.PC gaming is dead but just somehow it ends up having the most AAA and AA games.:roll:

Dead as in business. No money = no business

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[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="krp008"]

PC gaming is dead, get over it

kevy619

Yea thats why it has 250 million gamers (MS stats not mine), is the most used gaming platform, and games such as WoW have 10 million subscribers, and 13.5 million steam users - almost - and more - than Xbox 360s sold.

Right.:|

That because there is no way around paying blizzard to play wow. PC gaming is only hurting because of pirates.

How do you know how many pirated copies of console games are sold on the streets in Asia ? There are MANY people who dont care about online gaming and find it much easier to buy a modded console and console games off the street.
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Kwazy1981"][QUOTE="Thinker_145"]

And i thought xbox 360 should eat this game alive but still it doesnt run as smoothly as i run it on my PC.The graphics were very good though.

Thinker_145

Umm your video card cost's more then the 360.

And you dont need that video card to run it at the higest settings.

My 3 year old X850pro ran HL2 on the highest settings AA, AF with HDR at a 50fps+ frame rate.

My 9600XT ran it at the highest settings (though no HDR) at 35fps+

Yes exactly the 360 should be overkill for this game and you should not be able to notice any slowdown at all.I guess that 512 RAM is really an unbelievable decision of MS's part.

But no HDD support guaranteed, that really makes a difference.

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How do you know how many pirated copies of console games are sold on the streets in Asia ? There are MANY people who dont care about online gaming and find it much easier to buy a modded console and console games off the street.anshul89
You can't honestly believe there are more pirates in the console world than there are in the computer world... Look at sales figures.
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#50 Always-Honest
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[QUOTE="Always-Honest"]

well, you're used to the over easy mouse. sure, a mouse works much better for aiming. it's almost as intuitive as the wiimote. if it weren't for the unimmersive keyboard controls.

doesb't change the fact that the games are great

Thinker_145

You know there are keyboards with analog sticks.

no i didn't know..... seriously... ON the keyboard?....