I just realized something about zelda twilight princess.

Why is the score so high when there is no voice acting? and for ps3/360 games, the score will be lowered for bad voice acting 0.0.

When have we ever had a Zelda game with voice-acting? It just wouldn't feel right.

because that is an artistic choise?

What, you want to judge art on objective criteria?

I know, it doesn't even have online multiplayer and they give it an 8.8, WTF?

Actually, the game was marked down in alot of places because it has no voice acting.

The fact that it still has such a high score despite this shows how good the game is.

When have we ever had a Zelda game with voice-acting? It just wouldn't feel right.

-PuLse

[QUOTE="-PuLse"]

When have we ever had a Zelda game with voice-acting? It just wouldn't feel right.

Mario2007

THAT

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[QUOTE="-PuLse"]

When have we ever had a Zelda game with voice-acting? It just wouldn't feel right.

Mario2007

[QUOTE="Mario2007"][QUOTE="-PuLse"]

When have we ever had a Zelda game with voice-acting? It just wouldn't feel right.

Irick_cb

THAT

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HAPPENED.

Because any voice acting would = bad voice acting. I guess you like Half Life from your avatar, well imagine if Gordon Freeman started talking after 4 games of silence, it'd seem wrong and out of place. Any voices for Zelda would be the same.bobbetybob

what about mario? he didnt do any speaking until mario rpg if im not mistaken and now he wont shut the hell up. gordon freeman barely qualifies as a character in any sense, anyway. hes just effectively a camera.

i would like to see voice acting in a zelda game. im not afraid of change, especially one like that. imo it could be a really nice addition. voice acting can add a great deal to a game if handled well.

[QUOTE="Mario2007"][QUOTE="-PuLse"]

When have we ever had a Zelda game with voice-acting? It just wouldn't feel right.

Irick_cb

THAT

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HAPPENED.

whats cdi

[QUOTE="bobbetybob"]Because any voice acting would = bad voice acting. I guess you like Half Life from your avatar, well imagine if Gordon Freeman started talking after 4 games of silence, it'd seem wrong and out of place. Any voices for Zelda would be the same.CaptainHarley

what about mario? he didnt do any speaking until mario rpg if im not mistaken and now he wont shut the hell up. gordon freeman barely qualifies as a character in any sense, anyway. hes just effectively a camera.

i would like to see voice acting in a zelda game. im not afraid of change, especially one like that. imo it could be a really nice addition. voice acting can add a great deal to a game if handled well.

exactly. more features will make a game better. why would voice acting make a game bad i dont get that.

[QUOTE="bobbetybob"]Because any voice acting would = bad voice acting. I guess you like Half Life from your avatar, well imagine if Gordon Freeman started talking after 4 games of silence, it'd seem wrong and out of place. Any voices for Zelda would be the same.CaptainHarley

what about mario? he didnt do any speaking until mario rpg if im not mistaken and now he wont shut the hell up. gordon freeman barely qualifies as a character in any sense, anyway. hes just effectively a camera.

i would like to see voice acting in a zelda game. im not afraid of change, especially one like that. imo it could be a really nice addition. voice acting can add a great deal to a game if handled well.

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

[QUOTE="Mario2007"]*cough* CDI *cough*Indigga

THAT

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HAPPENED.

whats cdi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mHw5g55oC4

And now i would kindly like to ask you to burn your eyes out.

Okami is one of the best games from last gen and has no VA either.

When have we ever had a Zelda game with voice-acting? It just wouldn't feel right.

-PuLse

[QUOTE="Indigga"]

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

THAT

NEVER

HAPPENED.

shutdown_202

whats cdi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mHw5g55oC4

And now i would kindly like to ask you to burn your eyes out.

hahhah wow.

Actually, the game was marked down in alot of places because it has no voice acting.

The fact that it still has such a high score despite this shows how good the game is.

shutdown_202

Okami is one of the best games from last gen and has no VA either. [QUOTE="-PuLse"]

When have we ever had a Zelda game with voice-acting? It just wouldn't feel right.

Dystopian-X

Because no VO > bad VO.

[QUOTE="bobbetybob"]Because any voice acting would = bad voice acting. I guess you like Half Life from your avatar, well imagine if Gordon Freeman started talking after 4 games of silence, it'd seem wrong and out of place. Any voices for Zelda would be the same.CaptainHarley

what about mario? he didnt do any speaking until mario rpg if im not mistaken and now he wont shut the hell up. gordon freeman barely qualifies as a character in any sense, anyway. hes just effectively a camera.

i would like to see voice acting in a zelda game. im not afraid of change, especially one like that. imo it could be a really nice addition. voice acting can add a great deal to a game if handled well.

Because having no voice acting at all is better than having bad voice acting.

[QUOTE="-PuLse"]

When have we ever had a Zelda game with voice-acting? It just wouldn't feel right.

Mario2007

The reason that I think it wouldn't be good is because everyone has a different "vision" on how Link should sound and regardless if that voice acting is done well it would take out that aspect of the character. Link is basically a vessel for the character and in reality, you are Link, that's why he never talks or anything. This can apply to Gordon Freeman also. This is just what I think.

-PuLse

If Link is the issue then they can at least give VA to the secondary characters, I mean HL has always included that even if Gordon never talks.

Why is the score so high when there is no voice acting? and for ps3/360 games, the score will be lowered for bad voice acting 0.0.

Indigga

I don't believe always having voice acting is a good thing.

judging by the series, i don't think that Link was ever intended to be a mute. That's just how video game characters were back then. If the zelda series wants to move forward, nintendo is going to have to think of a way to address that. Link should say things and have character.

edit: ....and it's possible that all the other characters talk in text because it would highlight this point

judging by the series, i don't think that Link was ever intended to be a mute. That's just how video game characters were back then. If the zelda series wants to move forward, nintendo is going to have to think of a way to address that. Link should say things and have character.

edit: ....and it's possible that all the other characters talk in text because it would highlight this point

GunSmith1_basic

whats cdi

You don't want to know. But if you're that interested, watch these videos starting with this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQEbrXYChg8 or search for the Ultimate Suckage Phillips CD-I

there's a huge difference between leaving out voice acting and doing it badly. i don't think a game should be penalised for leaving it out but it should be penalised if it was done really awfully

[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]

judging by the series, i don't think that Link was ever intended to be a mute. That's just how video game characters were back then. If the zelda series wants to move forward, nintendo is going to have to think of a way to address that. Link should say things and have character.

edit: ....and it's possible that all the other characters talk in text because it would highlight this point

Because no VO > bad VO.

Legendaryscmt

Still, medicore VO > no VC. Though chances are the voice acting would have sucked. Adding voice acting if they hired decent actors wouldn't be that bad, but you would still have to keep Link mute. When games are this big though they generally don't have alot of voice acting anyway, and it's usually mince.

Good Voice Acting >No Voice Acting>>>>>>>>>Bad Voice Acting

True. I am totally fine with reading dialogue as long as they dont make the characters sound high pitched and girly like they did with Pit in SSBB.

BTW: I still have nightmares about those CD-I games.

[QUOTE="bobbetybob"]Because any voice acting would = bad voice acting. I guess you like Half Life from your avatar, well imagine if Gordon Freeman started talking after 4 games of silence, it'd seem wrong and out of place. Any voices for Zelda would be the same.CaptainHarley

what about mario? he didnt do any speaking until mario rpg if im not mistaken and now he wont shut the hell up. gordon freeman barely qualifies as a character in any sense, anyway. hes just effectively a camera.

i would like to see voice acting in a zelda game. im not afraid of change, especially one like that. imo it could be a really nice addition. voice acting can add a great deal to a game if handled well.

I just realized Twilight Princess doesn't have online either! :o If it was a 360/PS3 game it would've been lower, I mean look at games like Assassin's Creed and Prototype. They certainly were perfect games but their score was lowered because they didn't have online! I guess that explains why all of 360's JRPGs are rated so low.

I'm still annoyed by that review anyway, not the score, but the outright lies that were told in the body of the review. While most reviewers noted the solid controls, Mr. Gerstmann said you wave the remote around like a "maniac" and most of the time when you attempted to do a shield bash, you did a spin attack. I play-tested this assumption after reading this, since I had not noticed it while playing, and my results were 99 correct shield bashes and 1 spin attack. Mr. Gerstmann was seriously drunk, seriously high, or seriously bad at playing this game. Maybe instead of waving the remote like a maniac, he could have done his job and actually played the game properly.

As for V/O, if they picked the right voice for midna, it would have made the game spectacular, if they picked the wrong voice for midna, it might have ended the franchise. Nintendo's a conservative company, the game was fantastic, probably better to leave well enough alone.

Why is the score so high when there is no voice acting? and for ps3/360 games, the score will be lowered for bad voice acting 0.0.

Indigga

I think it has to do with the age of a franchise. Zelda and Mario have had minimal voice acting over the years. Giving them full blown scripts doesn't feel right. On the other hand, if Gears of War launched and Marcus Fenix didn't talk, that wouldn't feel right. I guess it has to do with the type of game somewhat too.

link himself is fine, he talks through his actions.

secondary characters however should talk, it's not a huge deal though.

[QUOTE="Dystopian-X"]

Okami is one of the best games from last gen and has no VA either. [QUOTE="-PuLse"]

When have we ever had a Zelda game with voice-acting? It just wouldn't feel right.

-PuLse

Couldn't have said it better myself. Any voice acting would create distance between the player and game character. I think this depends on the type of game it is though, as voice acting has been shown to be very effective in other instances.

He did take off points for that. It was a big complaint in his review. From my experience, I would prefer it if the character I'm playing atleast said a little bit here and there. It hardly feels like you're playing a character at all when you're so-called character says absolutely nothing throughout the entire game. Gordan Freeman is another example.

Well excuuuuuse me princess!

Link doesn't say anything anyway. But it might be nice to get to listen to those lengthly dialogues instead of reading them. It would at very least let me know how to prounouce some of the made up Zelda names. (I thought Samus' last name was Uh-Ran, like Iran, until MP3 when I found it was pronounced Aaron). But as long as I could turn the voiceovers off just in case they picked some bad voice actors for the parts. We'll probably see VO is Zelda Wii. Will we see online? I certainly hope not, online IMO has no place in Zelda, it is one player only. No co-op, no multi, no online. Online and multi should not be a requirement for highly rated game. FPS yeah they should do online, Zelda-Action Adventure, absolutely not.

I'd be ok with everyone except for link having voices, but i'm also perfectly fine without it.

[QUOTE="Indigga"]

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

THAT

NEVER

HAPPENED.

shutdown_202

whats cdi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mHw5g55oC4

And now i would kindly like to ask you to burn your eyes out.

Why is the score so high when there is no voice acting? and for ps3/360 games, the score will be lowered for bad voice acting 0.0.

Indigga