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#1 UGCoat
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  Pisses experienced Ken users like me off
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#2 deactivated-5e7be39d87e0b
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Huh? I don't quite follow.............
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#3 BBQSauceMan
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Huh? I don't quite follow.............bez2083

Everyone uses Ken during SF4 online...

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#4 haziqonfire
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Who cares if new players are playing as ken? Not everyone was born good at street fighter. Ken/Ryu are usually the easiest characters to play as for new players -- the genre NEEDS new players anyway.
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#5 JosamaBinEating
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I always want to use Chun Li/Sagat myself.
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#6 Ibacai
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I've always used Ken and now I sorta feel bad every time I pick him.
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#7 UGCoat
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Who cares if new players are playing as ken? Not everyone was born good at street fighter. Ken/Ryu are usually the easiest characters to play as for new players -- the genre NEEDS new players anyway.Haziqonfire
I care all these newbies fit the perfect stereotype of an "XBL user" screaming over the mic when you win and spam the same two moves. We don't need new players when they all pick one character and spam the same moves. We need variety and skilled playerd that actually try to improve and use strategy
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[QUOTE="bez2083"]Huh? I don't quite follow.............BBQSauceMan

Everyone uses Ken during SF4 online...

Actually, a lot of guys I played online against used Zangief or Sagat. But it was like that when I'd play HD Remix online.

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#9 shutdown_202
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Its all about chun li and sagat for me man but yeah Ken has been dominating online. I dont see it as a problem though, new players are drawn to him and hes a good character, easy to beat for me :P

Ive been looking at some videos and Gouken looks amazing, i think im gonna make him my character when i unlock him. Im having trouble unlocking him and Akuma. I heard you have to get 2 perfects and 3 ultras. When i do this i face Gouken after Seth and it does not unlock akuma or gouken. Can someone with the game help me out here. thanks!

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#10 Joust_
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You know what's worse than people who use Ken? People who complain about other people using Ken.

If you can't defeat your opponent, it's on you.

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#11 Verge_6
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You know what's worse than people who use Ken? People who complain about other people using Ken.

If you can't defeat your opponent, it's on you.

Joust_
It's time for another rendition of..."Verge's internet rebuttal breakdown!" While the majority of the player's chances of winning rest on his/her skill, the weapon/character they are using is also a significant contributing factor of the outcome. Case in point, the M-16 in CoD4, a weapon widely regarded as one of the most unbalanced weapons in gaming history, that gives new and veteran players alike a rather unfair advantage over everyone else.
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#12 MortalDecay
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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]Who cares if new players are playing as ken? Not everyone was born good at street fighter. Ken/Ryu are usually the easiest characters to play as for new players -- the genre NEEDS new players anyway.UGCoat
I care all these newbies fit the perfect stereotype of an "XBL user" screaming over the mic when you win and spam the same two moves. We don't need new players when they all pick one character and spam the same moves. We need variety and skilled playerd that actually try to improve and use strategy

I hate it when everyone picks Ken, also. But, I have Akuma, or Gouken to take care of them.
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#13 ace-of-spades93
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i only use ryu because i SUCK
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#14 Joust_
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[QUOTE="Joust_"]

You know what's worse than people who use Ken? People who complain about other people using Ken.

If you can't defeat your opponent, it's on you.

Verge_6

It's time for another rendition of..."Verge's internet rebuttal breakdown!" While the majority of the player's chances of winning rest on his/her skill, the weapon/character they are using is also a significant contributing factor of the outcome. Case in point, the M-16 in CoD4, a weapon widely regarded as one of the most unbalanced weapons in gaming history, that gives new and veteran players alike a rather unfair advantage over everyone else.

So?

If you're an experienced Street Fighter player, you know how to take down your opponent.

Same thing goes for turtling, same things goes for TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER KNEE.

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#15 MortalDecay
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Its all about chun li and sagat for me man but yeah Ken has been dominating online. I dont see it as a problem though, new players are drawn to him and hes a good character, easy to beat for me :P

Ive been looking at some videos and Gouken looks amazing, i think im gonna make him my character when i unlock him. Im having trouble unlocking him and Akuma. I heard you have to get 2 perfects and 3 ultras. When i do this i face Gouken after Seth and it does not unlock akuma or gouken. Can someone with the game help me out here. thanks!

shutdown_202

Do you have all of the other characters unlocked yet? You have to use someone you've already beat the game with, I believe.

And, yes, Gouken is the man. He's is my fav. character next to Akuma, and Sagat.

EDIT: Also, 2 Perfects + 2 Ultra Combo Finishers = Akuma.

2 Perfects + 3 Ultra Combo Finishers = Gouken.

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#16 UGCoat
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[QUOTE="UGCoat"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]Who cares if new players are playing as ken? Not everyone was born good at street fighter. Ken/Ryu are usually the easiest characters to play as for new players -- the genre NEEDS new players anyway.MortalDecay
I care all these newbies fit the perfect stereotype of an "XBL user" screaming over the mic when you win and spam the same two moves. We don't need new players when they all pick one character and spam the same moves. We need variety and skilled playerd that actually try to improve and use strategy

I hate it when everyone picks Ken, also. But, I have Akuma, or Gouken to take care of them.

Fei-Long usually gets the job done for me. I feel ashamed to use Ken now. I'm gonna master El Fuerte now
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#17 inertk
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I use Ken, always have. But I do like to experiment, maining with Ken/Chun Li at the moment. Practicing with C Viper but I can more or less use most of the characters. Although some of the Kens are annoying. Doesn't bother me none, depends on how the person playing is.
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#18 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Joust_"]

You know what's worse than people who use Ken? People who complain about other people using Ken.

If you can't defeat your opponent, it's on you.

Joust_

It's time for another rendition of..."Verge's internet rebuttal breakdown!" While the majority of the player's chances of winning rest on his/her skill, the weapon/character they are using is also a significant contributing factor of the outcome. Case in point, the M-16 in CoD4, a weapon widely regarded as one of the most unbalanced weapons in gaming history, that gives new and veteran players alike a rather unfair advantage over everyone else.

So?

If you're an experienced Street Fighter player, you know how to take down your opponent.

Same thing goes for turtling, same things goes for TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER KNEE.

Ah, thanks you for bringing up this other particular counter-rebuttal. The whole "if you're an experienced *insert game here* player, then you can take down the guy using *insert character/weapon here*" argument is also flawed, because it negates the fact that experienced players using the more powerful/advantageous character/weapon is going to know how/when to kill you with his character/weapon before you are able to deploy your shot/maneuver.
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[QUOTE="MortalDecay"][QUOTE="UGCoat"] I care all these newbies fit the perfect stereotype of an "XBL user" screaming over the mic when you win and spam the same two moves. We don't need new players when they all pick one character and spam the same moves. We need variety and skilled playerd that actually try to improve and use strategyUGCoat
I hate it when everyone picks Ken, also. But, I have Akuma, or Gouken to take care of them.

Fei-Long usually gets the job done for me. I feel ashamed to use Ken now. I'm gonna master El Fuerte now

El Fuerte, IMO, is completely useless. I tried him once, when I was unlocking Seth (beat game with all characters), and I don't like his moves.
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#20 carljohnson3456
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[QUOTE="bez2083"]Huh? I don't quite follow.............BBQSauceMan

Everyone uses Ken during SF4 online...

lol That sucks. I was always a Guile (think that's his name) user.
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#21 inertk
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For the life of me, I just can't beat a Guile. Since I was a child playing Street Fighter on the SNES, Guile has kicked me up and down silly. Luckily I've only come across him online once in about 30 games.
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#22 haziqonfire
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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]Who cares if new players are playing as ken? Not everyone was born good at street fighter. Ken/Ryu are usually the easiest characters to play as for new players -- the genre NEEDS new players anyway.UGCoat
I care all these newbies fit the perfect stereotype of an "XBL user" screaming over the mic when you win and spam the same two moves. We don't need new players when they all pick one character and spam the same moves. We need variety and skilled playerd that actually try to improve and use strategy

Ken/Ryu are the easiest to get used to. They'll move on later.
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#23 UGCoat
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[QUOTE="UGCoat"][QUOTE="MortalDecay"] I hate it when everyone picks Ken, also. But, I have Akuma, or Gouken to take care of them.MortalDecay
Fei-Long usually gets the job done for me. I feel ashamed to use Ken now. I'm gonna master El Fuerte now

El Fuerte, IMO, is completely useless. I tried him once, when I was unlocking Seth (beat game with all characters), and I don't like his moves.

Easily becoming my new main. I really own with El Fuerte. His moves are awesome
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#24 UGCoat
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For the life of me, I just can't beat a Guile. Since I was a child playing Street Fighter on the SNES, Guile has kicked me up and down silly. Luckily I've only come across him online once in about 30 games.inertk
Are you jumping right into his flash kick?
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#25 shutdown_202
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[QUOTE="shutdown_202"]

Its all about chun li and sagat for me man but yeah Ken has been dominating online. I dont see it as a problem though, new players are drawn to him and hes a good character, easy to beat for me :P

Ive been looking at some videos and Gouken looks amazing, i think im gonna make him my character when i unlock him. Im having trouble unlocking him and Akuma. I heard you have to get 2 perfects and 3 ultras. When i do this i face Gouken after Seth and it does not unlock akuma or gouken. Can someone with the game help me out here. thanks!

MortalDecay

Do you have all of the other characters unlocked yet? You have to use someone you've already beat the game with, I believe.

And, yes, Gouken is the man. He's is my fav. character next to Akuma, and Sagat.

EDIT: Also, 2 Perfects + 2 Ultra Combo Finishers = Akuma.

2 Perfects + 3 Ultra Combo Finishers = Gouken.

Thanks alot man that worked! but nooooooooo i restarted my PS3 and got a create save file message. my save file has been corrupted :cry:

No worrys i got my lil bros on unlocking the characters now which shouldnt take long. After, i challenge you!

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#26 Toriko42
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I never see people playing as Ken
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#27 inertk
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[QUOTE="inertk"]For the life of me, I just can't beat a Guile. Since I was a child playing Street Fighter on the SNES, Guile has kicked me up and down silly. Luckily I've only come across him online once in about 30 games.UGCoat
Are you jumping right into his flash kick?

Yeah but the thing is, I swore I had the timing down. I just can't beat someone who turtles I suppose, some guy doing it with Bison today filthed me up. ;(
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#28 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="UGCoat"][QUOTE="inertk"]For the life of me, I just can't beat a Guile. Since I was a child playing Street Fighter on the SNES, Guile has kicked me up and down silly. Luckily I've only come across him online once in about 30 games.inertk
Are you jumping right into his flash kick?

Yeah but the thing is, I swore I had the timing down. I just can't beat someone who turtles I suppose, some guy doing it with Bison today filthed me up. ;(

Lordy, this is making me nostalgic. I miss the days where I would routinely hear angry accusation of being cheap in the arcade, and it was almost ALWAYS coming from the SFII machine.
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I've only played 7 matches online so far and 4 of those matches were Ken but it doesn't bother me at all. I only use Chun Li & Sagat
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#30 inertk
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="inertk"][QUOTE="UGCoat"] Are you jumping right into his flash kick?

Yeah but the thing is, I swore I had the timing down. I just can't beat someone who turtles I suppose, some guy doing it with Bison today filthed me up. ;(

Lordy, this is making me nostalgic. I miss the days where I would routinely hell angry accusation of being cheap in the arcade, and it was almost ALWAYS coming from the SFII machine.

It's not really cheap, it's his strategy and I haven't figured out a counter for it. Basically, I'm doing alright at the moment. Like, 60-70% of my games I've won, and I got the basics down but in a way I'm still ignoring the basics and playing the game like Marvel Vs Capcom. :P Was never solely a Street Fighter guy, so I just need time to adjust I guess. Really want to get good with C Viper though.
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#31 DeadMan1290
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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]Who cares if new players are playing as ken? Not everyone was born good at street fighter. Ken/Ryu are usually the easiest characters to play as for new players -- the genre NEEDS new players anyway.UGCoat
I care all these newbies fit the perfect stereotype of an "XBL user" screaming over the mic when you win and spam the same two moves. We don't need new players when they all pick one character and spam the same moves. We need variety and skilled playerd that actually try to improve and use strategy

It's always fun to push a newbie around you know. Skilled and experienced players are great, cause you enjoy the game more obviously, but a newbie is always good to beat up:D
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#32 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="inertk"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="inertk"] Yeah but the thing is, I swore I had the timing down. I just can't beat someone who turtles I suppose, some guy doing it with Bison today filthed me up. ;(

Lordy, this is making me nostalgic. I miss the days where I would routinely hell angry accusation of being cheap in the arcade, and it was almost ALWAYS coming from the SFII machine.

It's not really cheap, it's his strategy and I haven't figured out a counter for it. Basically, I'm doing alright at the moment. Like, 60-70% of my games I've won, and I got the basics down but in a way I'm still ignoring the basics and playing the game like Marvel Vs Capcom. :P Was never solely a Street Fighter guy, so I just need time to adjust I guess. Really want to get good with C Viper though.

I know it's not cheap, but when people were getting their asses handed to them via a good strategy, it was "cheap".
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#33 inertk
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="inertk"][QUOTE="Verge_6"] Lordy, this is making me nostalgic. I miss the days where I would routinely hell angry accusation of being cheap in the arcade, and it was almost ALWAYS coming from the SFII machine.

It's not really cheap, it's his strategy and I haven't figured out a counter for it. Basically, I'm doing alright at the moment. Like, 60-70% of my games I've won, and I got the basics down but in a way I'm still ignoring the basics and playing the game like Marvel Vs Capcom. :P Was never solely a Street Fighter guy, so I just need time to adjust I guess. Really want to get good with C Viper though.

I know it's not cheap, but when people were getting their asses handed to them via a good strategy, it was "cheap".

Ahh I get you. Their own fault really, if you can't work around it -- it's you're own problem.
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#34 Insurrection4
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Who cares if new players are playing as ken? Not everyone was born good at street fighter. Ken/Ryu are usually the easiest characters to play as for new players -- the genre NEEDS new players anyway.Haziqonfire

Sure, the genre does need new players... but do all of them really need to play as Ken or Ryu? How hard is it to play as Guile or Bison?

Same thing goes for turtling, same things goes for TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER KNEE. Joust_

I see your Tiger and raise you a Head Stomp followed by a Double Knee Kick or Psycho Crusher. Have some of my Psycho POWER!!!! Mwahahahaha!!!

Seriously, Bison owns.

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#35 iam2green
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huh find a new botton masher to play. i don't like them to much kind of boring when u don't have friends that can chill iwth u when u want to play it. i think it is more fun to play somebody local then somebody online not seeing who the person is.
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#36 UGCoat
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Off topic But the song in the commercial is War by Sick Puppies
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#37 princeofshapeir
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It's kinda like how people use Ike/Meta Knight online in Brawl. Eventually the novelty will wear off and people will just play as random characters.
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#38 one_on_one
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That's the PS3 version right? Because from what I experience there's more of a variety over XBL, maybe because there's more people. But yeah, I guess Ken is very popular.
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#39 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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Not me, I'm a Cammy person and I'm trying to learn C. Viper. I tend to favor female fighters more :P
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#40 Espada12
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One of the uppercut gods. The other 3 being RYU, Sagat and Akuma. Seriously shoruken needs some reworking lol.
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#41 Espada12
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Not me, I'm a Cammy person and I'm trying to learn C. Viper. I tend to favor female fighters more :PsiLVURcross

yea I'm a cammy person as well, I love her recovery speed. I also play gouken and ryu.. that's about it.

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Maybe this is why the fighter genre struggles now? Its always the same story of 2-3 characters being overpowered and the rest are not worth a damn. No one can make a balanced fighter game with 15+ characters..
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#43 EZs
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Ken is strong, what can I say?

His "ora ora ora" attack is an easy hit, on the other hand Ryu's ultra hadoken is easy to evade.

I've also beat Arcade mode on hardest with Ken.

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#44 UGCoat
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That's the PS3 version right? Because from what I experience there's more of a variety over XBL, maybe because there's more people. But yeah, I guess Ken is very popular.one_on_one
lol no Its a problem on both PSN and XBL. Thats like saying there are no noobs on XBL lol Also I have both versions but 360 version isn't exactly mine. I just have access to it whenever