i like how everyone touts the Wii's sales......

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#1 flood
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but never seem to mention the facts its only half the price of the other consoles

of course its going to sell well.....for now....its cheaper.
now in a year when the other two systems have price drops
and nintendo has cranked out the 9th cooking mama ripoff
we'll see how well it fares.

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#2 foxhound_fox
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So?
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Gamecube was selling for $100 US when PS2 was selling $200 during early 2005.
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#4 rykaziel
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Not to mention the software attach rate is pretty low. 2.3 or 2.8 I think was the last report. People buy the systems but not the games.
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#5 Michael85
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Considering that by the time that 9th cooking mama ripoff comes out, the Wii will most likely be the market leader in terms of console sales, I'd say that you may be holding your breath for quite a while.
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#6 IronMaidenLives
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but never seem to mention the facts its only half the price of the other consoles

of course its going to sell well.....for now....its cheaper.
now in a year when the other two systems have price drops
and nintendo has cranked out the 9th cooking mama ripoff
we'll see how well it fares.

flood

Yeah, its pretty sad how you have such jealousy towards a gaming machine that you decided to make a troll topic about it.

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#7 flood
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So?foxhound_fox
well people need to remember some context whenever they cite the Wii's sales numbers, and how its the top selling next gen system.
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#8 osan0
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its very possible that the wii will also have a price drop. it could hit the magic 199.99. if its backed up by some cracking games (and it probably will be by then) then its probably going to continue to sell very well. there may be 9 cooking mama games but there will be plenty of other games for the system too. were in for some very interesting times.
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]So?flood
well people need to remember some context whenever they cite the Wii's sales numbers, and how its the top selling next gen system.

 

It's not Nintendo's fault that Sony and Microsoft priced themselves out of the mass market for Videogames.  

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Not to mention the software attach rate is pretty low. 2.3 or 2.8 I think was the last report. People buy the systems but not the games.rykaziel

 

I thought that was the launch attach rate. It might have changed.  

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#11 foxhound_fox
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well people need to remember some context whenever they cite the Wii's sales numbers, and how its the top selling next gen system.flood


The Gamecube was half the price of the PS2 for most of last gen...

The PS3 is not going to have a price drop for a long time, especially seeing how Sony is losing 200-250 per unit sold.

And your comment about "the 9th cooking mama" was not required. There is one game on DS and one on Wii. And both are supposedly a lot of fun.
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hmm...we'll see wat happens. i happen to think that the Ps3 will surely catch up. slowly, but surely
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#13 flood
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[QUOTE="rykaziel"]Not to mention the software attach rate is pretty low. 2.3 or 2.8 I think was the last report. People buy the systems but not the games.GundamGuy0

 

I thought that was the launch attach rate. It might have changed.  

no thats the current sell through rate for games on the Wii which if read into the numbers tells me that either A). the masses are buying the Wii for one or two games or B). or they are buying the wii, and its collecting dust. either way neither of these are feathers nintendo wants in their hats
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[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"]

[QUOTE="rykaziel"]Not to mention the software attach rate is pretty low. 2.3 or 2.8 I think was the last report. People buy the systems but not the games.flood

I thought that was the launch attach rate. It might have changed.

no thats the current sell through rate for games on the Wii which if read into the numbers tells me that either A). the masses are buying the Wii for one or two games or B). or they are buying the wii, and its collecting dust. either way neither of these are feathers nintendo wants in their hats

Link?
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Not to mention the software attach rate is pretty low. 2.3 or 2.8 I think was the last report. People buy the systems but not the games.rykaziel

I own WiiSports.  

Hopefully Galaxy and smash come out soon. 

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[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"]

[QUOTE="rykaziel"]Not to mention the software attach rate is pretty low. 2.3 or 2.8 I think was the last report. People buy the systems but not the games.flood

 

I thought that was the launch attach rate. It might have changed.  

no thats the current sell through rate for games on the Wii which if read into the numbers tells me that either A). the masses are buying the Wii for one or two games or B). or they are buying the wii, and its collecting dust. either way neither of these are feathers nintendo wants in their hats

Oh, OK. You know what Nintendo wants.

Did you think of C) It might be a fun system to play?

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Man, another sour grapes thread. Whats the problem with the Wii price. $250 with Wii Sport. Is it because your overprice console is threaten and few bought it. If you can purchase a PS3, why not purchase Wii60 as the better alternative.
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#18 flood
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[QUOTE="flood"] well people need to remember some context whenever they cite the Wii's sales numbers, and how its the top selling next gen system.foxhound_fox


The Gamecube was half the price of the PS2 for most of last gen...

The PS3 is not going to have a price drop for a long time, especially seeing how Sony is losing 200-250 per unit sold.

And your comment about "the 9th cooking mama" was not required. There is one game on DS and one on Wii. And both are supposedly a lot of fun.

well it was in reference to a year from now, when nintendo will not be able to produce the gta4's, the mass effects, the assassins creeds, and all the true next gen games. nintendo will have to bank on the very simple, graphically sub par, quirky games they are now building their library and reputation on.
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#19 flood
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Man, another sour grapes thread. Whats the problem with the Wii price. $250 with Wii Sport. Is it because your overprice console is threaten and few bought it. If you can purchase a PS3, why not purchase Wii60 as the better alternative.Zaistev_basic
i own the ps3 and the 360 so ive bought into the "PS360" the reason i didnt buy into the Wii is becasue the is very little gameplay or innovation involved in wii games. if all the otakus would stop patting themselves on the back for be satisfied with a "gamecube" with a new controller....they would notice that they are missing out on the some of the largest games of 06-07 and are going to miss some of the best coming up as well. but hey it seems the wii owners are more than content to own the system "old people and moms" want. good luck with that
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Still waiting for that link. It's okay, take your time. *whistles*
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#21 Wahoo2k
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but never seem to mention the facts its only half the price of the other consoles

of course its going to sell well.....for now....its cheaper.
now in a year when the other two systems have price drops
and nintendo has cranked out the 9th cooking mama ripoff
we'll see how well it fares.

flood

http://kotaku.com/gaming/ps3/sony-ps3-price-cut-not-likely-for-two-years-239816.php

do cows just like to miss this news story every time they talk about ps3 price cuts? It's not gonna happen, for quite a while...

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[QUOTE="Zaistev_basic"]Man, another sour grapes thread. Whats the problem with the Wii price. $250 with Wii Sport. Is it because your overprice console is threaten and few bought it. If you can purchase a PS3, why not purchase Wii60 as the better alternative.flood
i own the ps3 and the 360 so ive bought into the "PS360" the reason i didnt buy into the Wii is becasue the is very little gameplay or innovation involved in wii games. if all the otakus would stop patting themselves on the back for be satisfied with a "gamecube" with a new controller....they would notice that they are missing out on the some of the largest games of 06-07 and are going to miss some of the best coming up as well. but hey it seems the wii owners are more than content to own the system "old people and moms" want. good luck with that

haha, little innovation with wii, yet you have a ps3 and 360, aren't you just contradicting yourself there?

 Also, I think you're confusing the terms "graphics" and "gameplay"

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" Meanwhile, the Xbox 360 is taking strong lead in the number of games sold. The Xbox 360 has six titles in the top 10 for February -- including the No. 1 title -- while Wii has three and PS3 none (PS2 title "Guitar Hero" took the final spot). Additionally, Xbox 360 owners buy far more games than the owners of other consoles at a rate of 5.4 games per 360 owner. That rate falls to 2.3 for the PS3 and 2.8 for the Wii."

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSN0236164420070403?feedType=RSS&pageNumber=3

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#24 flood
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[QUOTE="flood"]

but never seem to mention the facts its only half the price of the other consoles

of course its going to sell well.....for now....its cheaper.
now in a year when the other two systems have price drops
and nintendo has cranked out the 9th cooking mama ripoff
we'll see how well it fares.

Wahoo2k

http://kotaku.com/gaming/ps3/sony-ps3-price-cut-not-likely-for-two-years-239816.php

do cows just like to miss this news story every time they talk about ps3 price cuts? It's not gonna happen, for quite a while...

LOL referencing kotaku.com for facts or news is like going to a swammy for stock tips.
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#25 psycotictaratua
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The Gamecube was always cheaper than the PS2, and we all know how that turned out.
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#26 flood
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[QUOTE="flood"][QUOTE="Zaistev_basic"]Man, another sour grapes thread. Whats the problem with the Wii price. $250 with Wii Sport. Is it because your overprice console is threaten and few bought it. If you can purchase a PS3, why not purchase Wii60 as the better alternative.Wahoo2k

i own the ps3 and the 360 so ive bought into the "PS360" the reason i didnt buy into the Wii is becasue the is very little gameplay or innovation involved in wii games. if all the otakus would stop patting themselves on the back for be satisfied with a "gamecube" with a new controller....they would notice that they are missing out on the some of the largest games of 06-07 and are going to miss some of the best coming up as well. but hey it seems the wii owners are more than content to own the system "old people and moms" want. good luck with that

haha, little innovation with wii, yet you have a ps3 and 360, aren't you just contradicting yourself there?

 Also, I think you're confusing the terms "graphics" and "gameplay"

theres the sound of a back being properly patted. so please explain to me how flicking a little controller to the left to make lui kang do a kick is innovative. nintendo has sold you the same old games with a different controller and substandard graphics
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[QUOTE="flood"] well people need to remember some context whenever they cite the Wii's sales numbers, and how its the top selling next gen system.foxhound_fox


The Gamecube was half the price of the PS2 for most of last gen...

The PS3 is not going to have a price drop for a long time, especially seeing how Sony is losing 200-250 per unit sold.

And your comment about "the 9th cooking mama" was not required. There is one game on DS and one on Wii. And both are supposedly a lot of fun.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="flood"] well people need to remember some context whenever they cite the Wii's sales numbers, and how its the top selling next gen system.flood


The Gamecube was half the price of the PS2 for most of last gen...

The PS3 is not going to have a price drop for a long time, especially seeing how Sony is losing 200-250 per unit sold.

And your comment about "the 9th cooking mama" was not required. There is one game on DS and one on Wii. And both are supposedly a lot of fun.

well it was in reference to a year from now, when nintendo will not be able to produce the gta4's, the mass effects, the assassins creeds, and all the true next gen games. nintendo will have to bank on the very simple, graphically sub par, quirky games they are now building their library and reputation on.

crystal ball anyone?
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" Meanwhile, the Xbox 360 is taking strong lead in the number of games sold. The Xbox 360 has six titles in the top 10 for February -- including the No. 1 title -- while Wii has three and PS3 none (PS2 title "Guitar Hero" took the final spot). Additionally, Xbox 360 owners buy far more games than the owners of other consoles at a rate of 5.4 games per 360 owner. That rate falls to 2.3 for the PS3 and 2.8 for the Wii."

http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSN0236164420070403?feedType=RSS&pageNumber=3

flood
Aha! So we do have a link. Congrabulations. But I can't fault the Wii for having a tie-in ratio of almost 3 games just yet. Assuming they're counting Wii sports as one, I would guess the majority also purchased Zelda, and the last was probably a mix of Red Steel, Wario Ware, Rayman, or Madden. So that leaves what else to purchase...Sonic? Wii's line-up is currently sub-par. Well, the 360 does have a reputation for selling software. It's done the best job of capturing the hardcore gamer's vision of what a game console should be. Unfortunately, that doesn't make it a clear-cut winner. Oh it will get support all of its life, no doubt. If it's selling software, the install base doesn't really matter. But to think that the Wii will just teeter off because it's selling extremely well right now and has crap for games is gullibility at its best. Nintendo's already convinced the mass market that their little system is worth the price, and unlike a fad, a game system doesn't survive on impulse purchases alone, it survives on games. If you haven't noticed, the majority of new IPs announced this year are exclusive to the Wii. I'd classify them under the genre of "crap", but it's a fact that developers are starting to take notice. In a year, you'd better PRAY that the Wii doesn't become the preferred console of development for developers overall, if by that time it hasn't already.
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You know what I love?

I love how anti-nintendo gamers try to come up with lame excuses to explain why the wii is kicking their favorite console's a$$ in sales. I mean the reason it's selling so well COULDN'T be because it is a fun console with an impressive library of games right? I mean that's just ridiculous. :P

also, I love pie. :)

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but never seem to mention the facts its only half the price of the other consoles

of course its going to sell well.....for now....its cheaper.
now in a year when the other two systems have price drops
and nintendo has cranked out the 9th cooking mama ripoff
we'll see how well it fares.

flood
cooking mama isnt first party... that and nintendo can drop its price just as easily as the other two consoles. and price doesnt mean everything. Ever heard of the Game cube?
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but never seem to mention the facts its only half the price of the other consoles

of course its going to sell well.....for now....its cheaper.
now in a year when the other two systems have price drops
and nintendo has cranked out the 9th cooking mama ripoff
we'll see how well it fares.

flood
it'll lower its price like any smart company and not do something dumb like having it a launch at $600 or  something dumb like make another sku increasing the price
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You do realize that by the time Sony and Microsoft have price drops Nintendo will have one as well?  Especially considering Nintendo originally wanted Wii to cost $200 anyway.
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You know what I love?

I love how anti-nintendo gamers try to come up with lame excuses to explain why the wii is kicking their favorite console's a$$ in sales. I mean the reason it's selling so well COULDN'T be because it is a fun console with an impressive library of games right? I mean that's just ridiculous. :P

also, I love pie. :)

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well.I wouldn't say it's library is impressive thus far. It's "alright" seeing as it's under-going a post launch drought..but still....super paper mario in 7 days!
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well it was in reference to a year from now, when nintendo will not be able to produce the gta4's, the mass effects, the assassins creeds, and all the true next gen games. nintendo will have to bank on the very simple, graphically sub par, quirky games they are now building their library and reputation on.flood


Well... what about when Sony and Microsoft cannot produce the Battalion Wars II's, the Disaster: Day of Crisis's, the Metroid Prime 3: Corruption's, the No More Heroes', the Sadness's, the Super Mario Galaxy's, the Super Paper Mario's and the Super Smash Bros. Brawl's?

You are generalizing. Most of the games out not are not "simple, graphically sub-par, quirky" games. A lot of them are very fun and quite entertaining.
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" Meanwhile, the Xbox 360 is taking strong lead in the number of games sold. The Xbox 360 has six titles in the top 10 for February -- including the No. 1 title -- while Wii has three and PS3 none (PS2 title "Guitar Hero" took the final spot). Additionally, Xbox 360 owners buy far more games than the owners of other consoles at a rate of 5.4 games per 360 owner. That rate falls to 2.3 for the PS3 and 2.8 for the Wii."

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSN0236164420070403?feedType=RSS&pageNumber=3

flood
Hold on. Let me get this straight. They're saying that people, on average, have bought more games for the system that's been out for 16 months than the one that's been out 4 months? Shocking.
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#37 curono
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but never seem to mention the facts its only half the price of the other consoles

of course its going to sell well.....for now....its cheaper.
now in a year when the other two systems have price drops
and nintendo has cranked out the 9th cooking mama ripoff
we'll see how well it fares.

flood

Your logic half the prize, double the sales does not apply. You are seriously mistaken.

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[QUOTE="flood"]

but never seem to mention the facts its only half the price of the other consoles

of course its going to sell well.....for now....its cheaper.
now in a year when the other two systems have price drops
and nintendo has cranked out the 9th cooking mama ripoff
we'll see how well it fares.

curono

Your logic half the prize, double the sales does not apply. You are seriously mistaken.

care to explain your point a bit more....at best your post is vague
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BLIND. 300 TARD IS ONLY 50 $ MORE. I DONT THINK IS A PRICE ISSUE PAL. YOU FAIL AT LOGIC.
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#40 HappyInvader101
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9th Cooking Mama rip off!!!??? There have only been 2 games.

 

Also, the gamecube was less expensive then the PS2 and Xbox from day 1, and someone already mentioned this but the GC was 100 at one time, while the PS2 was still 200 (or somewhere near there). 

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[QUOTE="curono"][QUOTE="flood"]

but never seem to mention the facts its only half the price of the other consoles

of course its going to sell well.....for now....its cheaper.
now in a year when the other two systems have price drops
and nintendo has cranked out the 9th cooking mama ripoff
we'll see how well it fares.

flood

Your logic half the prize, double the sales does not apply. You are seriously mistaken.

care to explain your point a bit more....at best your post is vague

because it is a oen time buy. people arent going to buy more than one wii so why should it sell twice as much?
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="flood"] well people need to remember some context whenever they cite the Wii's sales numbers, and how its the top selling next gen system.flood


The Gamecube was half the price of the PS2 for most of last gen...

The PS3 is not going to have a price drop for a long time, especially seeing how Sony is losing 200-250 per unit sold.

And your comment about "the 9th cooking mama" was not required. There is one game on DS and one on Wii. And both are supposedly a lot of fun.

well it was in reference to a year from now, when nintendo will not be able to produce the gta4's, the mass effects, the assassins creeds, and all the true next gen games. nintendo will have to bank on the very simple, graphically sub par, quirky games they are now building their library and reputation on.

Alright, listen. Mario = MORE KNOWN. Pokemon? = MORE KNOWN. Super Smash Bros.? = WELL KNOWN. Assassin Creed = New, not much is known about the games that I'm sure the mass market knows about it. Mass efect? = same as assassin creed. I'm sure many would get Mario Super Smash bros and Pokemon over A.C and Mass effect. The only game that would probably give them a run is GTA 4........
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#43 Trading_Zoner
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but never seem to mention the facts its only half the price of the other consoles

of course its going to sell well.....for now....its cheaper.
now in a year when the other two systems have price drops
and nintendo has cranked out the 9th cooking mama ripoff
we'll see how well it fares.

flood
I agree.
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#44 Plug1Plug2
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Half the Price. Twice the Fun. a great combination
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#45 Firelore29
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?  What's your point.  It is always going to be cheaper then the other two systems.
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#46 Trading_Zoner
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[QUOTE="flood"] well people need to remember some context whenever they cite the Wii's sales numbers, and how its the top selling next gen system.foxhound_fox


The Gamecube was half the price of the PS2 for most of last gen...

The PS3 is not going to have a price drop for a long time, especially seeing how Sony is losing 200-250 per unit sold.

And your comment about "the 9th cooking mama" was not required. There is one game on DS and one on Wii. And both are supposedly a lot of fun.

:o  foxhound_fox must work at sony guys!

He seems to know things, that we don't.... :P 

look there is no way of knowing when PS3 will have a price drop. They will work as hard as they can to cost reduce the PS3 and then they will offer the savings to consumers when they think they need to.

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But I thought you get what you pay for right lemmings? So if this is true. xbox360 and PS3 should be selling well aswell right?
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#48 Trading_Zoner
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[QUOTE="flood"][QUOTE="curono"][QUOTE="flood"]

but never seem to mention the facts its only half the price of the other consoles

of course its going to sell well.....for now....its cheaper.
now in a year when the other two systems have price drops
and nintendo has cranked out the 9th cooking mama ripoff
we'll see how well it fares.

laughingman42

Your logic half the prize, double the sales does not apply. You are seriously mistaken.

care to explain your point a bit more....at best your post is vague

because it is a oen time buy. people arent going to buy more than one wii so why should it sell twice as much?

because twice as many people can afford it at this time. It's not a hard concept to grasp. 

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#49 Blackbond
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Half the price? For $50 more you can get a 360 and play sport games. That's what the guys at college do up here. You don't need a memory card if all you're going to do is play sports lol. Gotta love casuals.
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#50 HyperMetaDragon
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I'm sorry, but the incredibly, unbelievably high level of corrupted logic of the TC profounds me. Seriously, the Wii will ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS cost less to make than the PS3 or 360.